Mid-Preseason NFL Quarterback Rankings
by MattMiller on Aug 11, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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We have two games under our belts for most NFL teams, and with the knowledge gained from the preseason, we've updated our rankings. Today, we unveil the quarterback numbers.
NES Rank Num Player Profile Team NES Grade
1 12 Brady, Tom NE (10)
2 18 Manning, Peyton IND (10)
3 9 Brees, Drew NO (9)
4 7 Roethlisberger, Ben PIT (9)
5 8 Hasselbeck, Matt SEA (9)
6 9 Romo, Tony DAL (9)
7 9 Palmer, Carson CIN (9)
8 5 McNabb, Donovan PHI (8)
9 9 Garrard, David JAC (8)
10 4 Favre, Brett NYJ (8)
11 10 Manning, Eli NYG (8)
12 10 Bulger, Marc STL (8)
13 3 Anderson, Derek CLE (8)
14 17 Rivers, Philip SD (8)
15 17 Campbell, Jason WAS (7)
16 6 Cutler, Jay DEN (7)
17 7 Garcia, Jeff TB (7)
18 17 Delhomme, Jake CAR (7)
19 10 Pennington, Chad MIA (7)
20 7 Leinart, Matt ARI (7)
21 8 Schaub, Matt HOU (7)
22 12 Rodgers, Aaron GB (7)
23 10 Young, Vince TEN (7)
24 5 Edwards, Trent BUF (6)
25 8 Kitna, Jon DET (6)
26 7 Boller, Kyle BAL (6)
27 10 Quinn, Brady CLE (6)
28 7 Jackson, Tarvaris MIN (6)
29 2 Russell, JaMarcus OAK (6)
30 2 Simms, Chris TB (6)
31 7 Volek, Billy SD (6)
32 7 Losman, J.P. BUF (6)
33 2 Ryan, Matt ATL (6)
34 13 Warner, Kurt ARI (6)
35 5 Stanton, Drew DET (6)
36 3 Moore, Matt CAR (6)
37 18 Orton, Kyle CHI (6)
38 18 Rosenfels, Sage HOU (6)
39 5 Gray, Quinn IND (6)
40 11 Clemens, Kellen NYJ (6)
41 4 McCown, Josh MIA (6)
42 8 Redman, Chris ATL (6)
43 8 Grossman, Rex CHI (6)
44 8 Carr, David NYG (6)
45 16 Cassel, Matt NE (5)
46 11 Brohm, Brian GB (5)
47 5 Flacco, Joe BAL (5)
48 7 Henne, Chad MIA (5)
49 11 Smith, Alex SF (5)
50 4 Kolb, Kevin PHI (5)
51 6 Whitehurst, Charlie SD (5)
52 7 Gutierrez, Matt NE (5)
53 13 Harrington, Joey ATL (5)
54 9 Bollinger, Brooks MIN (5)
55 5 Collins, Kerry TEN (5)
56 17 Lemon, Cleo JAC (5)
57 13 Hill, Shaun SF (5)
58 10 Smith, Troy BAL (5)
59 15 Wallace, Seneca SEA (5)
60 16 Batch, Charlie PIT (5)
61 12 Croyle, Brodie KC (5)
62 8 Griese, Brian TB (5)
63 11 Ramsey, Patrick DEN (5)
64 11 Brunell, Mark NO (5)
65 15 Collins, Todd WAS (5)
66 5 Frye, Charlie SEA (5)
67 12 Green, Trent STL (5)
68 11 Huard, Damon KC (5)
69 12 McCown, Luke TB (5)
70 7 Vick, Michael ATL (5)
71 16 Walter, Andrew OAK (5)
72 14 O'Sullivan, J.T. SF (4)
73 6 Orlovsky, Dan DET (4)
74 5 Ratliff, Brett NYJ (4)
75 4 Thigpen, Tyler KC (4)
76 9 Ainge, Erik NYJ (4)
77 2 Dixon, Dennis PIT (4)
78 14 Feeley, A.J. PHI (4)
79 12 Frerotte, Gus MIN (4)
80 14 Johnson, Brad DAL (4)
81 12 Sorgi, Jim IND (4)
82 3 Woodson, Andre NYG (4)
83 4 Booty, John David MIN (4)
84 8 Ricard, Lester CAR (4)
85 3 Shockley, D.J. ATL (4)
86 2 Wright, Anthony NYG (4)
87 4 Bouman, Todd JAC (4)
88 8 Gradkowski, Bruce STL (4)
89 13 Lorenzen, Jared IND (4)
90 8 Tuiasosopo, Marques OAK (4)
91 9 Beck, John MIA (4)
92 14 Basanez, Brett CAR (3)
93 5 Brennan, Colt WAS (3)
94 10 Flynn, Matt GB (3)
95 5 O'Connell, Kevin NE (3)
96 13 Berlin, Brock STL (3)
97 11 Dorsey, Ken CLE (3)
98 3 Rowe, Jeff CIN (3)
99 5 Palmer, Jordan CIN (3)
100 8 Bramlet, Casey SD (3)
101 11 Johnson, Josh TB (3)
102 11 Fitzpatrick, Ryan CIN (3)
103 10 Brink, Alex HOU (3)
104 7 Boyd, Shane HOU (3)
105 4 Hackney, Darrell DEN (3)
106 10 Terrell, Jeff DAL (3)
107 10 Hamdan, Gibran BUF (3)
108 4 Bartel, Richard DAL (2)
109 2 St. Pierre, Brian ARI (2)
110 3 Wright, Kyle SF (2)
111 16 Baker, Matt BUF (2)
112 3 Martin, Ingle TEN (2)
113 12 Morelli, Anthony ARI (2)
114 8 Potts, Mike PIT (2)
115 3 Palko, Tyler NO (1)
116 12 Hanie, Caleb CHI (1)
117 7 Otis, Jeff OAK (1)
118 9 Bell, Dalton SEA (1)
119 2 Devine, Derek WAS (1)
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What a suprise you hate on another dallas player
Despite Romo having a higher rating, more TD’s, and is younger you put Brees and Hasselbeck over him.
You must be a Houston Texan fan. Well guess what Cowboys fans could care less about the Houston Texans.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well
I’m not a fan of any NFL team, it comes with the job. I was raised a 49ers fan, but actually like Romo.
Here’s the difference. Brees and Hasselbeck have both won playoff games with less talented surrounding casts. Period. End of discussion. Cowboys fans can bitch at me when Romo wins a playoff game with his Pro Bowl line, Hall of Fame receiver, All Pro tight end and top 5 defense.
Cry me a freakin’ receiver, quincyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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by MattMiller on Aug 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And yet during all those years when Peyton Manning couldn't win the big one
I bet you labeled him the best QB in the league. Hypocrisy… I think so.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 11, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manning put up better numbers
and actually won a few playoff games.
at age 27 (same as Romo last season) Peyton completed a higher % of his passes, threw for more yards, threw just over half as many INTs, had a better TD:INT ratio, was named 1st team all pro and took the Colts to the AFC Championship game.
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(Yes, that is a non-Lil Wayne lyric sig).
by shake n bake on Aug 11, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo still had a 2 to 1 TD/INT ratio, threw for 36 TD's
and had a 97 QB rating last year. Yes he didn’t have a record breaking year, but in no way could you say he didn’t have at least a very good year last year. I think you are being a little ridiculous.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 11, 2008 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manning's was 3:1
You’re the one that compared him to Manning.
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." - Thomas Paine
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by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point went right over your head
I was in no way saying he was as good as Manning. The point was that you had two QB’s with very good seasons, granted one better than the other but that is irrelevant because both at the very least had very good seasons, and yet you would not hold that against Manning as you would with Romo. That was the point. I think you need to bone up on your reading comprehension.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's simple
Manning was called a top 2 QB before his SB win and Romo isn’t a top 5 because Manning played at a higher level and won some playoff games.
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." - Thomas Paine
(Yes, that is a non-Lil Wayne lyric sig).
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romo had a 97 QB rating, 36 tds, and 13 wins last year
He was playing at a very high level. In fact he had a better year last year than any of Manning’s first 7 seasons in the league.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 seasons includes his 49 TD
121 QB rating 4557 yard year. So that statement would be wrong.
I’ll just assume you meant six.
in his sixth year at the same age as Romo was last year, Manning had a 99 QB rating and a TD:INT ratio of 3:1 to Romo’s 2:1, the Colts when 12-4 then won two playoff games before losing to the Patriots who went on to win the superbowl.
Romo threw 7 more TDs, but he turned the ball over 15 more times (9 more picks, 6 more fumbles). That’s why the two measures that take INTs into account (QB Rating and adjusted yards per attempt) have Mannings 2003 higher.
Should I assume you meant Peyton’s first 5 years?
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." - Thomas Paine
(Yes, that is a non-Lil Wayne lyric sig).
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2008 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I did mean is first six years
Regardless they had relatively similar stats in Manning’s sixth season.
Moreover in Manning’s 5th season in the league he had an 88.8 QB rating. Compare that to Romo’s fifth season in the league where he had a 97.4 QB rating. And what is even more interesting is that it was only his first full season starting. Whereas Manning was the starter practically every year he was in the league and received starter treatment from the coaches. Romo received third QB treatment from the coaches for most of his career. Romo should certainly surpass Manning in a couple of years no doubt if he continues at this pace.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh..
Seems to me that Tom Brady is rated #1.
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by MattMiller on Aug 11, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see Brees over Romo
Not Hasselbeck, though.
You do have a point, Matt, but casting aside the age factor, just consider that Romo hasn’t started 30 games in this league yet.
Pretty clearly the first time he has ever looked at a web site. "And there are readers' comments at the bottom! And advertisements for products! And best of all, I won a free iPod!"
-Ken Tremendous on Mike Downey.
by BudLight on Aug 11, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noted
But on that same note, he hasn’t accomplished much in the regular season. The guy has a serious label of not being able to win a playoff game. The good news for you is that Joe Montana, Steve Young, John Elway and Peyton Manning did too.
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by MattMiller on Aug 11, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I'd have Romo higher than Hasselbeck too.
But I’d have Carson Palmer higher than both of them, which would still leave Romo in the same spot. Big Ben is also really good, and probably is better than Romo (again think supporting cast). So 6th is just about right for Romo. Which is still pretty darn good.
by math_geek on Aug 11, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Palmer is overrated
his USC, top ten pick pedigree makes him look better than he actually is. Although he is still a very good QB, but he is just not better than Romo, who has been playing better for the last two years if stats and wins mean anything to you.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 11, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and teammates
Put Palmer in Dallas and Romo in Cincy. Then let’s talk wins. I could give two left nuts about passing yards. That’s an overrated stat as any. Let’s talk about the defenses Palmer faces in the AFC North, the lack of a running game in Cincy, the injury-filled offensive line and the complete ignorance that is their defense on the Bengals.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh forbid the day Romo plays with Chad Johnson and T.J. Whosyourmama
How underprivileged Palmer must be to throw the rock to such horrible receivers.
Moreover, Every team in the NFC East had a top 10 defense last year. Whereas Cleveland had the 30th ranked defense last year. Sorry buddy, but that argument just doesn’t fly when you are talking about a team that plays in one of the top 3 divisions in the NFL. Secondly Palmer was the second least sacked QB in the NFL last year. Again your argument just doesn’t fly.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
least sacked
Which anyone who has played, coached or scouted would tell you is a factor of the offensive line, the quarterback, the wide receivers and the scheme. Palmer is also a very big quarterback and is not easy to tackle. He also has among the fastest releases in the game. All of this attribute to him being an elite quarterback.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually Romo's release has been clocked the fastest
in the league. The did a segment on this during the Cowboys Panthers game last year.
Moreover anyone who knows anything knows that Romo is far more mobile and elusive than Palmer. I think you are really grasping for straws.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh
Point me to where I said Romo’s was slower, or that he was not mobile?
Did this guy knock up your sister or something? Why the love fest.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stop erecting strawmen
I know you never said that. Point was you said Palmer is so much more able to evade a sack that his sack totals would be so much lower than Romo. I just pointed out that is an incorrect assumption. And now that you can’t provide an intelligent response you proceed to use an ad hominem because you know you lost this one.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And
You’re also failing to realize that Palmer is ranked one spot BELOW Romo.
Is this why I see so many warnings beside your name in your profile?
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's me
I was the one who said that Palmer was better than Romo., but I think Palmer is the 3rd best QB in the league.
This is just about ridiculous though, because they’re complaining about one fricking spot in the rankings (Romo vs Hasselbeck). Even the Indy fans haven’t started the Peyton vs Brady debate.
by math_geek on Aug 12, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I discussed a bit with someone here a while back
We came down to the agreement that who you think is better comes down to how much you believe in clutch play and how much credit you give QBs for team success.
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead." - Thomas Paine
(Yes, that is a non-Lil Wayne lyric sig).
by shake n bake on Aug 12, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it just occured to me you contradicted yourself
you just pointed out that it takes a team to win games yet you fault Romo entirely for not winning the playoff games. I think most intelligent observers would say the offensive line lost us the game last year against the Giants. Anywho, so if I got this straight it is Romo’s fault we didn’t win the playoff game last season, yet the regular season wins were a result of team play. It seems to me you are abandoning your argument when it is advantageous.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle
Who do you blame for losing the game against Seattle his first season?
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dallas D, mostly
The rookie QB threw the ball well. The holder messed up.
The two jobs are entirely different and should not be in any way associated with each other. Endless research has proved that there really is no such thing as ‘clutch’.
Pretty clearly the first time he has ever looked at a web site. "And there are readers' comments at the bottom! And advertisements for products! And best of all, I won a free iPod!"
-Ken Tremendous on Mike Downey.
by BudLight on Aug 12, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rookie?
No, he was third year player.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I was using 'rookie' in the baseball sense
His first season registering any significant playing time.
Pretty clearly the first time he has ever looked at a web site. "And there are readers' comments at the bottom! And advertisements for products! And best of all, I won a free iPod!"
-Ken Tremendous on Mike Downey.
by BudLight on Aug 12, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ref who overturned the Witten Play
there was no evidence to the contrary, and he eyeballed the spot in the review booth. The NFL admitted that is was an incorrect call.
Also, Romo was given a brand new k-ball that was already slick with rain. Now we have a Romo rule because of it, where the team is given the k-balls 45 minutes before the game to work over. The rules committee obviously thought it was not at least to a certain extent Romo’s fault or they would not have changed the rule.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He still...
... dropped the ball. The rule wasn’t made because he dropped the ball. 31 other NFL teams QBs and holders had no trouble with them. It’s all about pressure, and how poorly he plays under it. The guy is a damn good, young quarterback. He’s only played two years. Ease in to it.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really
It is kind of strange the rule was made soon after that game. I guess that was just coincidence huh? I think any unbiased individual knows that the rule was made as a result of Romo’s little slip up. If the ball never slipped out of Romo’s hands that rule would have never have been made. I believe you are intelligent to know this. I think you are just trying to be annoying… I think.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure
The rule was made because of the slip up, duh, but Romo still dropped the ball on that play. We all watched it, Cornelius, come on. Who is stretching here?
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they had to make a rule for it
then obviously its unfair to criticize Romo for it, because the committee itself determined using a brand new slicked up ball from a recent rain storm is unfair in itself, and it therefore had nothing to do with nerves. There is nothing to suggest that it had anything to do with nerves. In fact Romo was in such a frame of mind that he didn’t waste a second picking up the ball and running for the endzone. So unless you have esp, your argument doesn’t have a leg to stand on besides your unfounded assumptions.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And your own
The point is that 31 other teams used the same slick balls and had no problems with it.
It’s just like the Rules Committee changing the rules on bump and run after the Pats CBs locked down the Colts WRs.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was abnormally slick though
the ball looked like it was reflecting all incoming light.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFC East defenses are far from pushovers.
And, I repeat, 2nd year starter.
Pretty clearly the first time he has ever looked at a web site. "And there are readers' comments at the bottom! And advertisements for products! And best of all, I won a free iPod!"
-Ken Tremendous on Mike Downey.
by BudLight on Aug 12, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which means...
That in time he has the potential to move up the ladder. What did Ben Roethlisberger do in his second year?
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, yep
And Tom Brady in his second year.
Dan Marino for that matter, too.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again there are so many factors that determine who wins
a football game. The unsaid premise of your argument, at least for it to make sense, is that the QB controls the fate of your team. There are 45 other players on the field. Placing most of the blame on him, which is exactly what you are doing, is beyond ignorant.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
45 players
22 on the field, Champ. 45 other players on the field huh?
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
45 other players at the game
I used the term “the field” metaphorically… Tiger.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How..
How does that even make sense? Where do you get the “45” other players?
11 men from each team
22 players
53 men rosters
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 45 active game day roster
and yes I am aware I forgot to deduct Romo from the number.
That means there are 44 other players that affect the outcome of the game, some to a much lesser extent obviously. I didn’t think I had to explicitly explain that to you. Apparently I did.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
When you say 45 men on the field, everyone on the Earth is confused. At no point in time would this ever make sense.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't necessarily mean at one time
you made that assumption not me. I was using that more in the metaphorical sense. I figured that since most people know there can only be 11 players of one team on the field at the same that it would be implied, but I guess I have to explicitly state every single thing to you.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't recall Big Ben playing all that well in the Superbowl (22 qb rating)
sometimes defenses win the game for you (ahem Eli ahem). As the saying goes defenses win championships.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
chill out
They’re all rated a 9 so consider them all tied. It’s like saying 3a and 3b. Be glad that you’ve got a franchise QB for the first time in a decade and don’t get so bent out of shape about having one of the better QB’s in the league.
by cgolden on Aug 12, 2008 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Think It Would End up This Way, But...
I have to say that quincyyyyy has more than held his own in this argument. Sure, he’s had a few missteps, but if I were scoring the debate, I’d give him the edge. I’m not sure what he’s arguing for – personally, I’d rank Romo 4th or 5th in the league – so I’m pretty sure that he’s just arguing for the hell of it. Funny as hell to read it, though!
Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/
by ejruiz on Aug 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad I could be here for your amusement.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Man.
Don’t take offense! I said you’ve won the argument thus far, but that it’s unclear what you’re arguing for. Brady and Manning are 1a and 1b in the league and I’d only pick Big Ben ahead of Romo after that. Before you get all upset about Roethlisberger, his one bad season was almost certainly due to the life-threatening motorcycle accident that he suffered just a short time before the games began. Other than that, he has three season rated higher than any of Tony’s, is two years younger and has much more playoff experience/success under his belt. So, Brady, Peyton, Big Ben and Romo are my Top 4 – in that order – and I’ll leave my #5 for a later dscussion: Jay Cutler.
Here we go again: http://thefulldeck.blogspot.com/
by ejruiz on Aug 13, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No offense taken
I didn’t mean for it to come off like that.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Jay Cutler
Maybe he’ll be #5 one day but not right now. But I’ll definitely be rooting for him this year, especially considering his medical condition. I thought coming out of the ‘06 draft that he would be the best pro in comparison to Leinart and Young, and so far I think I have been right.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 13, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's my deal with Romo
1. I really like Tony Romo, I said this in my first post on the thread. He’s ranked 6th out of where I’d pick him if I needed a quarterback for 2008, which is how these rankings are made.
2. The reason he is 6th is because of a few things. #1 is his playoff record, whether his fault or the teams, is 0-2. In 2007 he was surrounded by what I’d consider the 2nd most talented team in the NFL, barely behind New England. Romo did have a huge regular season, but his performance in the playoffs left something to be desired on my plate. Again, this is one man’s opinion.
3. 19 interceptions, 10 fumbles. 8th and 4th in the NFL respectively in 07.
Now, here is why I really like Romo:
1. He’s mobile, smart and has a brave mentality.
2. His arm strength is tops, but he knows how to put touch on a ball. He doesn’t rifle in a 7-yard drag.
3. His moxie and intangibles. His team loves him, and that counts for a lot in my notebook.
4. His potential. Like so many have said, he’s a 2nd year starter and a two-time Pro Bowler. Romo is among the few I’d consider the future of the position. With Brady and Manning a few years in to their 30s now, Romo has a chance to make an impact as the next wave of QBs develop.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2.
Our o-line played like doody against the Giants D-line. Anyone who watched that game could see that. Even the great Tom Brady had trouble. I don’t think you can blame Romo for that. He did all that a mortal QB could. (yes I am implying Brady is mortal, shocking isn’t it)
I’d be interested to know how many of those fumbles were lost, and how many of the fumbles were the result of Gurode’s often high shot gun snaps (I can think of three instances off the top of my head).
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be too
If anyone can find advanced scouting stats, post ‘em.
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by MattMiller on Aug 12, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to yahoo fantasy he lost 2 to fumbles
which is lower than Lord Favre, Brady, Brees, Big Ben, the great Hasselsuck, McNappy, and Eli among others. Another swing and a miss.
And I don’t think the int total tells the whole story. 5 of those ints came against the Buffalo game, which he eventually came back from a lead his team to victory. How many other QB’s could still be mentally and emotionally capable to do something like that after throwing 5 ints. He said from that game he learned to stop forcing things and take what defenses give him. I would discount that game as a learning experience, but I am sure you wouldn’t
by quincyyyyy on Aug 12, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Matt's defense, you can't
Or you also have to toss out the huge games against Detroit (A defense with one inten: Quadruple-team TO, leaving Witten open on every. single. play.) St. Louis and Miami (not real NFL teams, although Miami did play good pass D)... you get the point, mate. YOu cant’t toss out stats even if they were less significant in the long run, because otherwise you have no objective way to evaluate the player.
Pretty clearly the first time he has ever looked at a web site. "And there are readers' comments at the bottom! And advertisements for products! And best of all, I won a free iPod!"
-Ken Tremendous on Mike Downey.
by BudLight on Aug 13, 2008 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tossed out the Buffalo game because
I believe he learned from his mistakes and did something to correct the issue, so that situation will probably not come up again. However one will play crappy teams every year, so you obviously can’t throw out those stats since nothing has changed in that regards.
by quincyyyyy on Aug 13, 2008 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whats ur problem with hasslebeck?
he played extremely well when everyone knew he was going to pass every down
by xSAMx on Aug 25, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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