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2009 Scouting Reports SEP-Mid OCT

Some reports I posted at Buffalo Rumblings- newest first.  At the end are a couple reports I put together for Jimmy Clausen, Eric Norwood, and George Selvie, who I've seen a lot this season and past seasons.  Feedback, good or bad, is welcome.

Missouri-Nebraska
Anyone who watched the game has a good understanding for how good Ndamukong Suh is. He may be the most dominant, game-changing college DT since Warren Sapp. Super thick legs which enable him to drive defenders into the backfield on almost any play he wants. He drove 2 Missouri blockers into the backfield on some plays. Unreal quickness off the line. Moves so fast off the line that some plays he was completely unblocked- screen style- but Missouri wasn’t running a screen, they just couldn’t block him. Great hand fighter that doesn’t stay blocked, as indicated by his tackle totals. When he was blocked, played aware and batted down passes. Can drop into coverage like a linebacker and will intercept the ball- had one interception and almost had a second if not for the rain. May have played himself ahead of Gerald McCoy. I don’t see Suh falling out of the top 7 if he keeps playing like this, and will probably be a top 5 lock as the season closes.

Danario Alexander played OK for the weather conditions. I can’t accurately assess his speed off that game, but he’s a big body that shields defenders from the ball, and has good hands.

Larry Asante, S, Nebraska. Played well. SS prospect only. Hard game to judge his ability to flip his hips and run with receivers, but he’s a thumper who will likely play in the box in the NFL.

Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri. I saw Gabbert against Illinois earlier this season, and I’ve been impressed with him both times I saw him. Good arm, sound mechanics, and tall with a higher release point. Pretty good mobility. Someone to keep an eye on for next year, as he’s a sophomore this year.

Oklahoma State-Texas A&M
Von Miller was impressive in this game, as noted above. What’s more impressive is that he lined up over Russell Okung and beat him outright a bunch of times. Beat Okung on an inside counter move twice, once so cleanly that Zac Robinson had no time to even set his feet on his initial drop. Looks like a really yoked up safety but plays like a bigger LB, which makes me think he could be a Greg Lloyd type of 3-4 OLB. All over the field and didn’t seem to get tired. OSU tried running at him, but he consistently stood up the blocking back or TE, shed, and made the tackle or forced the runner to cut back. Had some difficultly when Okung got into his body on run plays, but that’s to be expected with a 310 lbs. OT blocking a smaller LB. That did free up other Texas A&M defenders to make plays.

Russell Okung played an OK game if you factor in that he was blocking Miller almost the entire game. It stands to reason that you notice when the OT gets beat and not when he doesn’t. With that said, there were plays that Okung really got out of his stance fast and was able to kick slide and shuffle his feet, easily beating Miller. Kind of makes be wonder about his focus and intensity. He’s got a much bigger frame that his weight, and could add 20 pounds easily if a team is looking at him as a right tackle. Really broad shoulders and long arms that make it hard for a defender to get around. LT feet. Talent suggests that he’s a top 10 pick… needs to be evaluated against other top rushers and then interviewed to assess his motivation level.

I came away really impressed with the Aggie junior QB Jerrod Johnson. Big with good mobility. The first couple passes he threw really looked like they were floating and that he didn’t have the arm strength that his size suggests he should have. He did put some zip on a couple balls though. either way, the Cowboys really couldn’t get at most of his passes as defenders. I really want to see him again to re-assess his arm strength. I liked his decision making and accuracy. Wasn’t just throwing bubble screens and short passes- worked though progressions and got the ball downfield. Good head on his shoulders- unique family situation where he grew up with siblings of other races. Well spoken and seemed well grounded in his interview- I can see decision makers being very comfortable with Johnson as the face of their franchise.

Count me as not a fan of Zac Robinson the QB. System QB that’s more of a good athlete than a QB. Inaccurate especially on the deep throws. Not reading more than half the field. Very well built and a good runner, could be a candidate to convert to a Josh Cribbs type of player.

Colorado-Texas
Sergio Kindle is the hardest hitting defender I’ve seen all year. He’s played OLB and DE at Texas, and played strictly as a 3-4 OLB vs. the Buffalo’s. Tremendous first step off the ball, quickest that I’ve seen for an edge rusher all year, including Norwood, Selvie, Dunlap, and Sapp. Puts the OT at a mismatch right off the snap. Nate Solder, a good OT for Colorado, struggled to kick slide out of his stance and stay with Kindle. Cannot be single blocked by TE’s and backs. Uncoils and really strikes ball carries, and can deliver a blow without a running start. Similar in physical skills to Shawn Merriman, though not as big. Someone to watch this weekend as Texas plays Oklahoma, where Kindle will rush against an elite OT prospect, Trent Williams.

Rodderick Muckelroy, OLB, Texas. Playing ILB in the Texas 3-4, but body type and speed indicates he’s more of a 4-3 OLB. But has the bulk to shift inside a la Jerrod Mayo, but may not have the take on strength, as the Buffs did a good job pushing the Texas defense around in the first half. Really good in zone coverage in the hook and curl zones, changing some of Cody Hawkins’ throws.

Every time I watch Jordan Shipley, I think Wes Welker. I don’t think he’s got the blazing straight line speed to run past a DB consistently on deep routes. But man, does he get open on every underneath and mid-range route. Super savvy on reading coverages and getting to the open spots in the zone. Good punt returner who sets his blocks up well. He needs to beat the injury bugs, but he does a lot for Texas and does it well.

I was not impressed by Colt McCoy. He’s a good sized QB but just doesn’t delivery the ball with a lot of velocity. I think he’s going to have to adjust his game a bit to make it to the NFL, and I see him as a bigger version of Jeff Garcia. He does have a very accurate arm, though. I was interested to see if it was scheme or his talent, and I came away thinking that his high completion percentage is more to do with his accurate throws, though the scheme he plays in helps. Will need to play in a scheme that emphasizes a short passing game.

Auburn-Arkansas
Michael Smith, RB, Arkansas. Played a great game. Very short, and not as well built as Jones-Drew, but could make it in the pros as a change of pace back. Very fast once he cuts and gets upfield, and doesn’t go down as easily as his size suggests. Could bring value later in the draft to a team with bigger backs.

This is the second time I’ve watch Ryan Mallett, and I am really impressed. Super tall (listed at 6-7, probably 6-6) and has a great arm. Can throw with velocity and make all the throws. Really impressive putting air underneath the fade routes and gives his WR’s a chance to make a play. Smart with the football (13 TD’s and only 3 INT’s even though he’s had over 35 attempts in three of his five games). Marginal mobility but seemed to sidestep the Auburn rush well. He’s a sophomore and someone to watch in the future, along with his sophomore pal, WR Greg Childs, who looks like a big up-and-coming deep threat.

Not impressed with Antonio Coleman. Similar to Selvie, he seemed to let up off the snap as if that was his assignment. Played on the TE side the whole game, and almost always to the C gap inside the TE, and didn’t really rush hard that much. Looks like a OLB to me and needs to be evaluated in the one-on-one pass rushing drills at the Senior Bowl to really get a good look at his rushing ability, IMO.

Ben Tate plays in Auburn’s unique spread and is asked to run a lot of different routes out of the backfield, which Tate has show he can do. Runs with power and has some shiftiness, shuffling and sliding through and into holes at times. He’s definitely running under the radar and should bring good value wherever he’s drafted.

Notes from Penn State-Illinois.
Darryl Clark looks like an NFL running back to me. His arm is good and
accuracy is OK but his decision making is still off. He’s not so tall that
he couldn’t play RB, a la Michael Robinson in San Francisco. Similar
thoughts for Juice Williams.

The Penn State O-Line finally gelled and really started to blow Illinois
off the ball. The center, Wisnewski (61) was dominant. Future first
rounder in my mind. He’s not a typical small Penn State center, and can
handle wide bodies over him and also can reach the second level.

Due to better line play, Royster looked really good. He reminds me a bit
of Fred Jackson in the manner which he runs and ability in the passing game.

Jared Odrick still looks like a 3-4 end to me, but he’ll be a good 3-4 end.

Arrelious Benn wasn’t as fast as I thought, and looks more like a taller RB
running through the secondary with how yoked up he is. I don’t think he’ll
run sub-4.4 at the combine, and he doesn’t look like he can consistently get
a step on the CB. Could be a good possession receiver. Low first rounder
to me.

Penn State TE’s looked OK, may be later round considerations.

Notre Dame-Washington.
Another great game for Clausen. Showing that he’s the best QB prospect in
the country every week, IMO. His assessment that I gave from last week still
stands. Top 3 pick. Bradford has Clausen on accuracy and potentially football IQ. Still, Clausen has shown that he is very accurate. Not concerned about his release point because of the velocity that he puts on the ball, and the fact that his throwing motion is very fluid and compact, and it doesn’t change from throw to throw. I see it as a non-issue entirely. Those questioning his release point should refer to Rivers, who has had no issues to this point.  Some scouts may question his intelligence, as I noted last week, but I don’t see it as a concern because he’s putting the ball where it needs to go consistently, a sign of good film work. He’s a functionally smart QB in my mind. My breakdown of Clausen from last week (posted 1 OCT in last week’s College Scouting Report):

Jake Locker has been called the Tim Tebow of the West by some. While he’s
built like Tebow and has comparable running ability, it really not accurate
in terms of his passing ability. He throws a much better ball, his
mechanics are sound, and his accuracy is better (though needs work). Where Tebow is a project
at this point with great tools, Locker is a sound prospect. Played great
and has lifted his team with his play. Could end up being a first round QB
with consistency.

Golden Tate continues to play well, though I think his big plays won’t
translate quite as well to the NFL. He’s probably best as a slot
back/receiver.

Minnesota-Wisconsin.
Greg Carimi is the real deal at offensive tackle. He’s playing LT for
Wisconsin but projects to RT. He stands up at the snap, and his feet aren’t
quick enough to play LT. But his power is almost overwhelming at times.
Plays with super heavy hands and his punch at the snap is devastating. His
feet are quick enough to play RT, and combined with his power, he could be a
Jon Jansen type of RT. Second round prospect.

Decker is Jordy Nelson/Joe Jurivicous. Great player. Doesn’t have
over-the-top speed, but does everything else well including great hands and
a great feel for the game.

I was really impressed with the Minnesota TE, Tow-Arnett. He’s thickly
built, has good-enough speed, and is a factor as a receiver. Could be a
nice middle round draft choice.

Tennessee-Auburn.
Eric Berry played well, but he really could’ve showcased himself and
didn’t. His presence on the field did little to slow the Auburn attack. He
had some big hits, and admittedly, Auburn has a tough offense to contain.
Compared to Taylor Mays, who made big plays against California, Berry looked
somewhat ordinary. I think Berry and Taylor are still locked in as high
first rounders, but grading who’s best is still an incomplete at this point.

Rico McCoy looked really fast. He reminds me of Michael Boulware- an OLB
that’s really a big safety. Perfect for a Tampa 2- great instincts, covers
ground fast and plays the pass well.

I didn’t notice anything from Dan Williams. I may have missed plays he
made, but I didn’t notice any either.

Wake Forest-NC State.
Really only looked at Willie Young. Angular pass rusher, didn’t really
impress me, destined to be a 3-4 OLB. Couldn’t anchor or hold the edge, and
Wake Forest isn’t know to be a power team. But had a decent first step.
Similar to Manny Lawson in my mind.

Clemson-Maryland.
CJ Spiller has a lot more power than people think. He’s every bit as
explosive as Jahvid Best, cuts faster in my mind, and picks up speed as
fast. And he plays with more power. Would be good for a team in a Chris
Johnson role, but Johnson’s got a step on Spiller in terms of explosiveness.

Ricky Sapp looked really fast off the edge to me. I don’t know if that
translates to him playing end or OLB, but I think he fits somewhere. Great
first step.

Thomas Austin didn’t really impress me. He’s at LG where he should be
blowing people off the ball, but he seemed lost half the time. I counted at
least five times where he hit no one the entire play.

In Depth player evals (from the week after the Purdue-Notre Dame Game).
Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina. No outstanding traits that jump out at you, but Norwood is still dominant. Reminds me of David Pollack, who also had no outstanding traits but was still dominant. Norwood has been beating up on NFL-calibur talent for a couple seasons now. Good burst off the ball, not elite. Relentless and in great condition. Goes the same speed all game, and simply wears down opponents. Really noticable later in game when he seems to be moving a step fast than everyone else on the field. Wins with power and excellent use of hands. Squatty build gives him leverage similar to Dwight Freeney, but Norwood is mostly power as opposed to Freeney, who wins with finesse. Good speed and immediately closes into the blocker’s body, and then overpowers the blocker who can’t extend. This makes him almost impossible to single block at the college level. Will run around slow-footed blockers. Will need to prove that he can muscle better NFL tackles, and will need to improve his finesse moves, as NFL tackles eat up power rushers that can’t counter. Intense. On-field leader both vocally and with deeds. Good closing speed and senses the kill both with the sack and tackles. Never-say-die attitude. Average qualties going backwards as a LB, but good diagnostic skills reading action in front of him. Will stack and shed at the point and can track to the sideline. Best as a 3-4 OLB but could do well as a 4-3 stongside LB in a scheme like Tennessee’s or Philadelphia’s. Could play the edge in a 4-3 for teams that don’t mind undersized ends. A guy you want on your team and the kind of player that helps build a championship defense. Anticipated draft range: low first to second.

Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame (Junior). The best pro prospect in college football at the QB position, IMO. Great build. Powerful arm with a nice motion that doesn’t change from throw to throw. Throws with velocity on the ball and make every pro throw. Accuracy is excellent both in the pocket and on the move. Hits receivers in stride. Sometimes underthrows deep routes, but almost all QB’s do that from time to time. Played hurt against Purdue and without Michael Floyd, but still came back to win the game. Doesn’t get flustered in the pocket. Re-sets his feet and makes the throw like a pro already. Trusts his arm too much and sometimes throws deep into double coverage. Already appears to me to read the entire field and can go through his progression with ease despite playing in a pro style offense. This undoubtably comes from Charlie Weis’ coaching. Plays with a calm swagger. Both Clausen’s and the Irish offense’s body language indicates that they feel that Clausen not only can but will win the game. This normally comes with proven QB’s like Bradford or Tebow, so Clausen’s ability to create confidence is more impressive considering Notre Dame’s recent average play the past two years. Mental qualities were under question earlier in his career, but his understanding of where to go with the football leads me to believe that he’s spending lots of time in the film room. Still, more of a tough guy QB then a thinking QB. Tough and will play hurt. Mobile and can run for good yardage, but won’t be confused with Vince Young. Clausen is NFL ready now and is a top 5 pick lock unless something dramatic happens. Day 1 starter who can lead a team. Anticipated draft range: top 5 pick.

George Selvie DE South Florida. Former center who plays like it. Power to speed rusher. Average off the snap at times, other times he’s late, and sometimes he’s the first player moving showing outstanding explosiveness and a good first step. I can’t tell if it’s due to scheme or if he’s not able to anticipate the snap on some downs. Thin build at 250 with the ability to bulk up. Reminds me of Osi Umenyiora with his long arms and muscle tone. Powerful lower body. Overpowers lighter OT’s and can’t be blocked with a back. Has limited moves. Tends to puts his facemask into the blocker and drive him to the QB. Shed blockers easily. Not super fast, but can bend off the edge and get to the QB at times. Diagnostic skills need to improve, as he’s out of position at times. Never gives up, as he’s often more than 10 yards downfield making tackles. His size suggests that he could move to 3-4 OLB, but I think that’s a big jump for a player attempting to hone how to read an offense and be in the right spot. Probably just a 4-3 DE at this point. Will play hurt. Not going to be the guy for a defense, but could be a excellent complimentary rusher, especially if he stays at RE where he will have an easier time powering the OT. Anticipated draft range: I don’t see Selvie running well at the combine, but if he plays well at the Senior Bowl and runs a good 10-yard split, he could be a lower first round pick. (Again, this assessment was made in SEP, and I think he'll be drafted lower now due to poor play).

Short bits: Jahvid Best didn’t seem so great this weekend vs. Oregon. I don’t see him as the high draft pick that was talked about last week. Sledding will be tougher this weekend against USC… Greg Hardy showed a lot playing hurt against South Carolina. He was clearly laboring on a hurt ankle, but still got to the QB and make a difference. Not sure if the light went on for him, or he just understands that his play and attitude this season will determine his draft position… Jerrell Powe played decent against South Carolina versus South Carolina. For being so big, he doesn’t anchor well and can’t really split the double team while holding two gaps, but seemed to be able to burst through one-gap easily for how big he is… Jevan Snead is not playing well. His performance over the rest of the season is something to watch in terms of his ability to bounce back from bad performances… Eric Decker impressed me more and more every week. Uncoverable against Northwestern. Great hands… Christian Ponder is a future NFL QB in my mind. Still makes bond-headed plays, but he’s smart, has all the physical traits required, and looks to be a good on-field leader.


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Other reports I forgot - from USC-Ohio State Weekend

Some things to add I was a fan this weekend and watched only three games: Syracuse-Penn State; Michigan-Notre Dame; and USC-Ohiio State. Here are the players that stood out to me:

Evan Royster, RB Penn State. He’s a pretty good RB, but struggled often out of the one-back set. PSU usually has a decent OL, but they’ve struggled slightly when running without a FB. I can’t determine if it’s him or the OL and will need to watch more. What really stood out for me was his pass catching ability. He’s a natural hand catcher, looked comfortable out wide and in the slot, and ran good routes. I’m grading him in the second round. I don’t see him breaking into the first round, but someone is going to get a decent RB on day two.

Graham Zug, WR, Penn State. Similar to Austin Collie. Great hands, great feel for the defense and adjusting his routes. I don’t think he’s going to run well at the combine, but he didn’t seem to have issues getting seperation deep. He’s not in my top 100, but he could be a last round surprise.

Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State. Really surprised me in this game. I saw him last year, and he seemed like a decent 3-technique DT. But he was doubled by Syracuse a lot, and when he was, he got washed out. However, he had much more burst than I anticipated seeing, and showed he could bend the edge when running twists. He reminds me of Luis Castillo, a college DT that was a better fit as a 30 front end. He may move up from the second round into the late first, like Castillo, because of the value he brings to 3-4 teams.

Mikhail Marinovich, DE, Syracuse. (Soph.) This kid is an animal. I’ve seen him twice, and he looks like a poor-man’s David Pollack, but a couple inches taller. He’s always around the ball, hustles, and is just plain disruptive. Like Pollack, Marinovich’s game is effort all the time. I could almost feel the Penn State OT’s getting frustrated because he just kept coming. Someone to watch for the future. He’s fun to watch and is likely to become a fan favorite.

Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame. (Jr.) Not to be dramatic, but watching Clausen reminds me of watching Jim Kelly. As noted, he throws rainbows, but he is consistently attacking deep (He’s effective in the short and intermediate passing game as well). Watching him, I immediately see from his body language that he thinks he’s the best football player on the field, and no matter how many bad passed he throws, he’s still going deep the next play. I haven’t seen that swagger from a college QB since Peyton Manning at Tennessee. I think he’s a future top five pick and will do well in the NFL.

Eric Olsen, C, Notre Dame. The Irish OL beat up the Michigan front at times (Michigan plays a 3-3-5, which accounts for some of this). But Olsen dominated in the middle. Typical tough Irish center. He’s a bit taller than John Sullivan, but is more mobile. Michigan’s DT’s are light, so I didn’t get a good sense on his ability to anchor against the bull rush, but there are plenty of games left.

Charles Brown, OT, USC. Playing his way into the first round. He’s everything you want in a LT, but is a bit light, weighing in around 290-295. But he dominated every Buckeye he faced one-on-one. Great feet. Easily executes the kick slide. Decent punch, but not great. He mitigates it with mile-long arms. Needs to add some lower body weight, but if he plays this way all season, he’ll be a late first rounder.

Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State (Jr.) The single most dominant player I saw this weekend. Craig Heyward’s son was unblockable one-on-one. USC has one of the most talented OL’s in the country, and Heyward could not be single blocked all night long. Jeff Byers, in particular, got beat up by Heyward. A power-to-speed type of rusher. Ridiculously strong. Decent first step and good speed around the edge. Can play 5-technique DE in a 3-4 with ease (OSU used a 3-4 much of the night), or Base DE in a 40 front. He might even be able to play weakside DE in a 4-3. He reminds me of Tyson Jackson, but more athletic and a much better pash-rusher. And he’s much meaner and plays much harder than Jackson. I have him in the first round currently, but he looked like a top ten pick Saturday night.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 23, 2009 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff. You should post here more often

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 23, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

There is a Thursday article written by Brian Galiford and others at Buffalo Rumblings, which I post my notes on. I am going to start a fan post on this site prior to that with the same notes. I only focus on a few games, and have Direct TV, so I get to see some games but not all.

by Der Jaeger on Oct 24, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Daryl Clark

I’d rather the Jags take him in the third or fourth as a gadget quarterback/slash player over Tebow. I think he could play slot receiver and run gadget packages.

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by Bestjagfan on Oct 24, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great stuff

Von Miller – He’s listed at 6-3, 214. He’d have to bulk up a ton to play OLB. Maybe as much as 30 pounds.

Count me as interested in Eric Norwood after reading this. Hopefully the Cards are picking in that late first round range when he might be available.

Selvie still intrigues me. He’s hit or miss sometimes but he’s just got some ‘wow’ factor for me.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Oct 27, 2009 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs


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