2010 Mock Draft - Rounds 1, 2, and 3
Well, this is the product of quite a lot of labor. I'll probably update it in 1-3 weeks (a long period, I know, but it really depends on work and life schedule). You can feel to disagree...but you'll be wrong! :-) I pretty much have juniors staging a jailbreak from the NCAA, which at this point is what I think will happen. Obviously it'll change as they make up their minds. On to the show!
Round 1
1. St. Louis Rams - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Even more than the Bucs or Even more than the Bucs or Raiders, the St. Louis franchise is in desperate need of a a complete reset. You start with that by building from the most important piece: quarterback. With Sam Bradford getting knocked silly twice this year, Clausen becomes the #1 prospect and the #1 pick
2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
As close to a no-brainer as you can possibly get. With the Bucs drafting their (hoped for) QB of the future in Josh Freeman last year, it's time to pay attention to the trenches. From what I read, Tampa's coaching staff is already totally in love with Suh and by picking #2 they're virtually guaranteed to get him.
3. Cleveland Browns - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Certainly quarterback is a big temptation here, but I just get the feeling Eric Mangini is going to search in the mid-rounds for his new QB. That is, if he doesn't trade his entire draft to the Jets for Kellen Clemens. Anyway, the Browns defense is atrocious and in desperate need of playmakers. Eric Berry defines the term. If there is one player who (barring injury) will NOT bust this draft, it is Berry.
4. Kansas City Chiefs - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
think the Chiefs are gonna pull a Robert Gallery move with Brandon Albert. Albert appears to be out of his depth at tackle, but I believe he could be a dominant guard. With Cassel getting knocked around like an unpopular pinball, the Chiefs will take the best lineman in the draft to keep their $63 million dollar man upright and throwing.
5. Oakland Raiders - Jake Locker, QB, Washington
Two things have to happen: 1) 2010 has to be an uncapped year so they can comfortably rid themselves of JaMarcus Russell. 2) Locker has to actually declare for the draft. If both those things happen, Davis will take Locker in a heartbeat. Locker has arm strength and athleticism, so as far as Al is concerned he can stop evaluating right there. Fortunately for the Raiders, Locker is a decent overall prospect beyond Al's only two criteria. If there is a cap for 2010 or if Locker returns for his senior season, then this will probably be Taylor Mays, Carlos Dunlap or some other equally stupid Davis pick based mostly on 40 times and upside.
6. Detroit Lions - Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
The Lions are a team that is definitely trending in the right direction. Unfortunately, they're still not very, you know.....good. Stafford appears to have a real future in the league, so you've gotta put the pieces into place to keep him healthy and developing. This is a very deep draft on the defensive side of the ball, so I can see the Lions addressing that in the mid-rounds. For now, they'll take Bruce Campbell. He can protect Matthew Stafford AND fight demons. Groovy.
7. Tennessee Titans - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Who saw this coming at the beginning of the year? Anyway, Kerry Collins is done and the Titans appear to have given up on Vince Young. Forget Bradford's injuries: I still firmly believe he's going to be an excellent NFL quarterback. Plus, the Titans are in a situation where they need someone who can step in and start on day 1. Bradford has the college experience and work ethic to make that happen.
8. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
Is Terrence Cody a legitimate top 10 pick? No. Do the 49ers need him? Most definitely yes. Can they afford a luxury pick here since they have another 1st rounder coming? You betcha. Can Mike Singletary kick Cody's butt enough to keep him motivated and in shape? Absolutely. San Francisco should send a Christmas card to the Panthers for sucking so bad this year.
9. Washington Redskins - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
Yeah, yeah, I know. They need a quarterback. Somehow, I can't see Dan Snyder falling in love with Colt McCoy, though, and the other, better options are off the board. What the 'Skins do need in the worst way is an upgrade at defensive end. Whether or not Dunlap is that guy remains to be seen, but I can envision Dan Snyder convincing himself that he'll have found his Mario Williams. Caveat: If Jon Gruden is the next head coach, this pick is Tim Tebow.
10. Buffalo Bills - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
The Bills can't stop the run and McCoy is the BPA. You do the math.
11. Jacksonville Jaguars - Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
I know this is currently the trendy thing to do in the mock drafts already out there, but when the owner says he'd like to draft a player and that player is available when his team picks, that's tough to ignore. Until I see evidence that the Jaguars are thinking of someone else, this will remain Tebow on my board.
12. Seattle Seahawks - Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
We can (and will) argue until doomsday about whether or not McCoy is a top 15 prospect. When you look at the Mora/Knapp style of offense, I have to believe that they'll think Colt McCoy tumbled straight out of heaven into their laps. Add that to the fact that Matt Hasselbeck isn't getting younger or healthier and you have what appears to me to be a pretty likely pick.
13. Denver Broncos (from Chicago) - Arthur Jones, DT, Syracuse
Dear Denver: You're welcome. Here's a guy who can play nose tackle or end in your 3-4. You need a guy like that, don't you? Love, Chicago.
14. Miami Dolphins - Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU
Okay, so they've got a quarterback and a running game. Now they need some legitimate receiving threats. Enter LaFell.
15. New York Jets - Damian Williams, WR, USC
See above
16. San Francisco 49ers - Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
The 49ers are still searching for that franchise left tackle. I think Bulaga has a good shot to be that guy.
17. San Diego Chargers - Mike Williams, WR, Syracuse
I originally had this as Travis Lewis as a replacement for the almost certainly departing Shawne Merriman. Then I remembered that the Chargers have last year's first round pick, Larry English, to take that slot. So it seems that San Diego will address their suddenly problematic wide receiver depth with this pick. They'll just have to hope this wide receiver named Mike Williams works out better than the last one to enter the draft.
18. Philadelphia Eagles - Travis Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma
My first instinct was to go inside linebacker, but the Eagles already addressed that by trading for Will Weatherspoon. Outside linebacking could use a boost and Travis Lewis is an animal.
19. Green Bay Packers - Charles Brown, OT, USC
This has to be an OT. Green Bay's line has been just awful this year.
20. Dallas Cowboys - Jason Fox, OT, Miami
The first round run on offensive tackles continues. I know this pick might surprise a lot of people, but I look for Fox to rise steadily up draft boards.
21. Houston Texans - Taylor Mays, S, USC
Houston could use an upgrade at the safety position and Mays has the potential to be a bigtime playmaker.
22. Cincinnati Bengals - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
The cornerback position is the Achilles heel of the otherwise fearsome Ravens defense. Haden is far and away the best cornerback in the 2010 class.
23. Cincinnati Bengals - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
I'm really not fond of their depth at wide receiver and Marvin Lewis has shown he's not afraid to take a chance on players who have done some things they maybe shouldn't have. God knows he has to be used to coaching them by now. Bryant is a steal at 23.
24. Arizona Cardinals - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
Sweet daddy Jeebus, this a deep class of offensive tackles, which is fortunate for the Cardinals, since they need one.
25. Atlanta Falcons - Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
Atlanta is a super solid team overall, but that secondary just makes me wince. I'm going to say Robinson's participation in the FSU cheating scandal won't hurt him too much since it's been a couple of years by now. Greg Hardy wouldn't go amiss here either.
26. New England Patriots - Greg Hardy, DE, Mississippi
Derrick Burgess hasn't gotten it done for the Pats. (Did Al Davis actually get the better of that trade?) Greg Hardy has the size, speed and athleticism to play with his hand on the ground or stand up and rush the passer. His injury history causes him to drop to here, but his talent is too great to ignore.
27. New York Giants - Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri
A pure tackling machine at a position the Giants might want to try to upgrade. The possibility that this becomes Nate Allen goes up exponentially (I'm talking nearly 100%) if Kenny Phillips is forced into retirement by his injury.
28. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) - Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
Offensive tackle is a serious thought here, but their receiving corps has a lot of good-not-great guys and TJ Houshmandzadeh is creeping up on his mid-30's. Benn could be a superstar someday. You wouldn't hear me give the Seahawks any grief if they went with an OT here, though
29. Pittsburgh Steelers - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
The perfect guy to step into James Farrior's shoes in a year or two and continue the tradition of great Steeler linebackers. I also can't manage to shake the suspicion they might have their eye on Mike Johnson or Mike Iupati if they think either one could be their new Alan Faneca.
30. Minnesota Vikings - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
The perfect complement/contrast to Purple Jesus.
31. Indianpolis Colts - Nate Allen, FS, South Florida
I originally had this as Eric Norwood but changed my mind. The utter inability of Bob Sanders to stay healthy makes safety depth a necessity for Indy. Allen also happens to be awesome.
32. New Orleans Saints - Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State
Stick this guy next to Sedrick Ellis and the Saints will have a truly terrifying defensive front four.
ROUND 2
33. St. Louis Rams - Brandon Graham, DE, Michigan
Okay, they've got the QB. They got the tackle last year. Now it's on to the defense. Leonard Little is like 700 years old. Brandon Graham will do a good job replacing him.
34. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
Speaking of 700 year olds who need replacing, we have Ronde Barber in Tampa Bay. The Bucs will take Brandon Ghee here to create a formidable young corner duo.
35. Cleveland Browns - Zac Robinson, QB, Oklahoma State
Go ahead and laugh at me if you must (and I know you will) but I think Robinson is excellent clay to mold an NFL QB from. His size, arm strength and accuracy are all pro quality. Plus, he played in an offensive system that let him take some snaps from under center.
36. Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina
Another year, another lackluster Chiefs pass rush. Mike Vrabel is just about past it as well.
37. Oakland Raiders - Ciron Black, OT, LSU
Right tackle has been an epic disaster for the Raiders all year long. Even Al Davis can see the need for a change, preferably a big, mean run blocker to open holes for McFadden, Bush and Fargas.
38. Detroit Lions - Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
Detroit's pass rush is anemic in the extreme. Von Miller is the most dynamic pure pass rusher in this year's draft. Is he largely a one year wonder, though?
39. New England Patriots (from Tennessee) - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
Stephen Neal is getting up there in years and the Pats always have to be thinking about protecting the franchise.
40. Carolina Panthers - Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas
Obviously this changes if he doesn't declare, but I have to think he will. His stock is hot and with the potential of a lockout/rookie cap in 2011, he probably won't want to risk another year.
41. Washington Redskins - Tony Pike, QB, Cincinnati
Pike is rapidly becoming one of the "sexy" picks, so I can easily see Dan Snyder grativating in this direction, especially since he happens to need a quarterback.
42. Buffalo Bills - Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
With the great T.O. experiment not likely to last beyond this year whether Dick Jauron stays or goes, the Bills will be in need of more weapons for Trent Edwards. Tate is easily the best still available
43. New England Patriots (from Jacksonville) - Mardy Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
I know as well as you do that Gilyard is overrated, but I think he could actually fit pretty well into the Patriots offensive system.
44. Seattle Seahawks - Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
They certainly need some help at tackle and I think the athletic Capers is the best fit for their offense.
45. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from Chicago) - Eric Decker, WR, Minnesota
The Bucs are in desperate need of some depth at WR and Decker happens to be the best available.
46. Miami Dolphins - Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
Probably a bit of a reach here, but Jason Ferguson is nearing the end of his career. Where else are the Dolphins going to find a 6'3", 327 pounder to clog the middle? Besides, it's not like Williams doesn't have a lot of talent to go along with his bulk.
47. New York Jets - Boo Robinson, DT, Wake Forest
The Jets were forced to go sign a castoff to step into the spot vacated by Kris Jenkins when he went down for the season. They need more reliable depth. I believe Robinson has slimmed down some this year, but can easily bulk back up.
48. San Francisco 49ers - Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
The 49ers guards, particularly Chilo Rachal, have been in and out of Mike Singletary's doghouse all season. Johnson is talented and versatile.
49. San Diego Chargers - Tyson Alualu, DT/DE, California
Jamal Williams going down hurt the Chargers defense bigtime, but it's not like their defensive ends have done a lot to pick up the slack. Alualu comes from a 3-4 scheme, so it's a perfect fit.
50. Philadelphia Eagles - Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke
The Eagles drafted Trevor Laws in the second round in 2008, but he hasn't exactly set the world on fire. They can try again with Oghobaase, who might even be able to push Mike Patterson for starting time. Patterson's production has dropped from his 2007 peak.
51. Green Bay Packers - Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
Charles Woodson and Al Harris are both still effective, but aren't exactly getting younger.
52. Dallas Cowboys - Corey Wootton, DE, Northwestern
I'm not sold on Igor Olshansky as the guy at DE for Dallas. Wootton seems like the kind of player Jerry Jones could fall in love with.
53. Houston Texans - Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky
The Texans continue their quest to beef up their secondary by taking the talented Mister Lindley.
54. Baltimore Ravens - Terrence Toliver, WR, LSU
You can never have too many weapons for your franchise quarterback.
55. Cincinnati Bengals - Everson Griffin, DE, USC
With Antwan Odom down with a serious injury, Robert Geathers kind of "meh" and Michael Johnson an unknown quantity, the Bengals could do worse than to snag a guy as talented as Griffin at this point in the draft
56. Arizona Cardinals - Perrish Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
You can never, ever have too much cornerback depth.
57. Kansas City Chiefs (from Atlanta) - Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
The Chiefs got this pick in exchange for Tony Gonzalez. They desperately miss Tony Gonzalez. Here's a guy who reminds me a whole lot of Tony Gonzalez. He's a first round talent, but for his injury. At this point, the Chiefs won't hesitate.
58. New England Patriots - Jahvid Best, RB, California
Ever notice how most of New England's moves at running back never seem to quite work out 100 percent? They'll try again with Jahvid Best.
59. New York Giants - Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina
Two of their defensive tackles are up for free agency and you have to figure at least one is leaving.
60. Denver Broncos - Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida
Spikes is easily the BPA at this point and Andra Davis will be 31 before the end of the 2009 season.
61. Pittsburgh Steelers - Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
Pittsburgh's offensive line is improved this year, but still kinda shaky. Davis can play tackle or guard
62. Minnesota Vikings - Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
A bit of a luxury pick here, but when you're a solid as the Vikings are overall, you can afford to do such things. Burnett can play either safety position and probably play his way into the starting job within a year or two.
63. Indianapolis Colts - Jerry Hughes, OLB, TCU
A classic Colts player: a solid citizen off the field and an intense, hard-worker on it.
64. New Orleans Saints - Ricky Sapp, OLB, Clemson
A bigtime talent at a position where the Saints aren't exactly weak, but could use a boost.
ROUND 3
65. St. Louis Rams - Jeremy Williams, WR, Tulane
Clausen is going to need some people to throw the ball to, and St. Louis is currently short on those folks.
66. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
Their defensive line is just terrible. They fixed the middle with Suh and now they can work on the ends. This draft is insanely deep. To get a player like Morgan over 2 rounds in is a bargain and a half.
67. Cleveland Browns - Montario Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
Here's a guy who flies a bit under the radar, but who I see having a big future in the league. Jamal Lewis should've retired a year and I'm not wild about the other horses in their running back stable.
68. Kansas City Chiefs - Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
Larry Johnson appears to have Tweeted himself to a one-way ticket out of Kansas City. He's also going to be 30. Dwyer will be the replacement.
69. Oakland Raiders - D'Anthony Smith, DT, Louisiana Tech
Let's run through the checklist: A position of need? Check. Projected to run a sub 5 second 40 time at at 300+ pounds? Check. Filled with that nebulous thing called "upside" he may or may not ever fulfill? Check. Welcome to Oakland, D'Anthony.
70. Detroit Lions - C.J. Wilson, DE, East Carolina
A bigtime producer at an area where the Lions have been getting little to none of it.
71. Tennessee Titans - Jeff Owens, DT, Georgia
Is he the next Haynesworth? The Titans will certainly hope so. At the least, I think he'll be a lot of help to their reeling defensive line.
72. Carolina Panthers - Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas
They've got a disgruntled Steve Smith, a 5,000 year old Mushin Muhammed and a bunch of mannequins in uniforms. They need to take the best WR available.
73. Buffalo Bills - Jevan Snead, QB, Mississippi
Has managed to play himself out of being a surefire top 10 pick and back into the mid-rounds. The smart thing for him to do would be to stay for his senior season and try to play his way back into first round contention. Then again, it's easy for me to type that, since lots of dollars aren't at stake for me. Anyway, I think Snead could be a nice project for Buffalo while Trent Edwards gets one more chance.
74, Jacksonville Jaguars - Brandon Deaderick, DE, Alabama
If the Jaguars stick with their conversion to a 3-4 defense, they'll need better defensive end play. Deaderick is one of the most underrated players in the draft and comes from a great 3-4 college system. Plus, he got shot. With a bullet. Fired from a gun...and didn't miss playing time. That's a warrior, right there.
75. Philadelphia Eagles (from Seattle) - Kam Chancellor, S, Virginia Tech
76. Chicago Bears - Sean Lee, ILB, Penn State
Is he the next Urlacher? The Bears will certainly hope so. He might be too...right down to the tendency to get injured at the worst possible times.
77. Miami Dolphins - Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
They're going to eventually need a new Joey Porter.
78. Cleveland Browns (From New York Jets) - Zane Beadles, OT, Utah
Joe Thomas is one of the best in the league. They could use a better bookend tackle on the right side.
79. San Francisco 49ers - Dan LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan
Here's another player that I'm really, really high on. I think LeFevour has the potential be a lot like Steve Young or Jeff Garcia.
80. San Diego Chargers - Jay Ross, DT, East Carolina
Ross is a big space filler and they clearly need a guy like that behind Jamal Williams.
81. Philadelphia Eagles - Syd'Quan Thompson, CB, California
The Eagles aren't averse to having corners who are somewhat on the small side, but are very athletic and play with intensity.
82. Green Bay Packers - Navorro Bowman, OLB, Penn State
Aaron Kampmann is miscast as a 3-4 linebacker and is probably gone this after this year to someplace where he can put his hand back in the dirt. Navorro Bowman is probably the best outside linebacker available at this point.
83. Dallas Cowboys - Reshad Jones, S, Georgia
84. Houston Texans - Colin Peek, TE, Alabama
A great pass-catching weapon for Matt Schaub and blocker for Steve Slaton. Peek is everything a tight end should be.
85. Baltimore Ravens - Chris Hall, C, Texas
Eventual replacement for all-world center Matt Birk, who's getting up there
86. Cincinnati Bengals - Sergio Render, G, Virginia Tech
Guard is a bit of a weakness on their offensive line and the whole team begins and ends with Carson Palmer.
87. Arizona Cardinals - Rennie Curran, OLB, Georgia
88. Atlanta Falcons - Charles Scott, RB, LSU
With Turner dropping in production this year and Norwood's contract expiring, the Falcons will snap up Scott as insurance.
89. Oakland Raiders (from New England) - Brandon Carter, G, Texas Tech
Cooper Carlisle has regressed this year and none of their depth guys at guard seem to....oh who am I kidding? Go take one look at this guy. Tell me there shouldn't be a law requiring him to be a Raider.
90. New York Giants - Daryl Washington, ILB, TCU
91. Pittsburgh Steelers - Javier Arenas, CB, Alabama
92. Minnesota Vikings - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
Antoine Winfield's injury exposed their lack of cornerback depth.
93. Indianapolis Colts - Adam Ulatoski, OT, Texas
The best quarterback in the league must be protected at all costs.
94. New Orleans Saints - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
Ditto.
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Nice draft....
few things.
Love the Locker to the Raiders pick. Al Davis would be right selecting him. It would be a “throw crap against the wall” type pick, cuz Locker will run a 4.4 and has a cannon arm…but he’s also a leader and a damn good QB. With the arm and all that sort of stuff, he seems like a Jay Cutler type guy, hopefully not the snottiness or the Farve-like INT game killing ability that Cutler has.
As for my Giants. I like Witherspoon, but why no Nate Allen anyway, regardless of whether Phillips retires (he’s more than likely not BTW..he could have came back this season without the STUPID IR rule).
Especially cuz they seem to get lucky with Spikes falling (and the 3rd rounder of a MLB anyway…).
Given the way you draft played out, Nate Allen 1st, Spikes 2nd, OL in the 3rd—-I see no Rodney Hudson or Kris O’Dowd….preferably O’Dowd, woudl be a little better.
I don’t think they draft TWO LB’s either, given the recent choices and what the team thinks of guys like Kehl, Goff and Sintim.
If no nate Allen in round one (and Rolando McClain or Spikes instead…) javier Arenas would be nice too.
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by FreeBradshaw on Oct 30, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arenas in round 3...
if no secondary addressed earlier.
I also need to add that I sincerely hope the Jaguars don’t draft Tebow in round one. Drafting a player to sell tickets is a horrible idea, especially given the money you’d be giving and also the bust potential of any 1st round pick, much less a QB with questionable QB skills like Tebow (not saying he can’t do it…but take one look at Ryan Mallet play vs. Tebow..tell me you’d rather have Tebow…?).
You draft a player to sell tickets..turns out he sucks, then what? Not only are you not gonna sell tickets anymore…but you just set the team back AGAIN.
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by FreeBradshaw on Oct 30, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Tebow may slide out of the First
at least eventually. I rather my Jaguars go defensive and get a Safety like Burnett or maybe Mt. Cody.
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 30, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Browns wouldnt need to trade their whole draft for Clemens, he is a FA
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 30, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think Gruden would pick Tebow in the top 10?
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 30, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You have A LOT of guys going in the first that I dont see going there
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 30, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Spikes at 60? Dwyer at 68? Best at 58? Kindle at 77?
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 30, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love to hear some answers to these questions
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Nov 2, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, he just posted and ran.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 2, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see the Colts needing another safety unless someone gives up a pick for Bethea or Bullitt as RFAs this offseason
Melvin Bullitt is a starting caliber safety backing Sanders up. If Sanders, Bethea and Bullitt are back they have no need for another safety anytime early.
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by shake n bake on Oct 30, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see us drafting a replacement to Farrior in the first round
if at all this year especially with a FS being picked two spots later. We got his heir in Fox. and we need a new heir apparent to Clark since Mundy doesn’t look good right. Heck we need better safety depth period.
by Steel in FL on Oct 30, 2009 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me neither your team drafts exceptionally well in that regard.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 30, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work. My nitpicks:
Niners: I agree that Cody could be the pick but don’t agree with your reasoning. How does a mediocre team go with a “luxury pick”? They need to go with the BPA. As for Bulaga, the Niners already have a “franchise” LT in Joe Staley. He hasn’t actually been that good, but just signed a big extension and given his skillset will probably play LT for the forseeable future. Bulaga could play RT.
Tebow: I don’t see Tebow going anywhere near the top 10, he’s still got too many flaws in his game and hasn’t been great this year.
Seahawks: I’d say McCoy and Benn are both pretty bad fits for the Seahawks. McCoy just doesn’t have the talent to go in the top half of the 1st round IMO and is a very risky pick, generally not Seattle’s style. Benn is also risky and hasn’t been productive this year, the Hawks don’t like guys like that. I’d say they will probably draft an OT with 1 of their 1st two picks, but I think Capers is a good fit.
Eric Berry: I disagree that Berry is the likeliest to not bust. To me it seems like people are so obsessed with the hype that they forget to look at the player. Berry isn’t very big, he’s not incredibly fast, and he doesn’t tackle well. I’d say he’s a bit risky as a prospect, but certainly less riskier than Mays.
Zac Robinson: Personal opinion but I don’t think he belongs anywhere near where you have him picked.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 30, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Berry is fast, he tackles well, and his size isnt really a problem
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 30, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does not tackle well
And his size isn’t a problem now against smaller college players, but can he handle NFL running backs?
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 31, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troy P. is even smaller than Berry.
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 31, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troy is 5'10 207
Berry is 5’11 203
about the same.
by Steel in FL on Oct 31, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Troy was...
…207 in ‘06 & ’07 and was injured a lot. He’s at least 215 now and doesn’t get injured as often.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 6, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
From the Official site of the Pittsburgh Steelers
Polamalu, Troy SS 5-10 207
From NFL.com: 207
what’s your source?
by Steel in FL on Nov 6, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait! better explanation...
…Troy in an interview said he played ‘04, ’05 at 215 then reduced his weight thinking it would help him in coverage and started training in Pittsburgh during the offseason but the best laid plans of mice and men…he regained the weight and returned to his previous offseason regimen in California hence we have him being excused from OTA’s.
Steelers.com have Big Casey at 325, that’s a joke. He’s around 340 and noticeably down from last year.
by Marvin, The Paranoid Android on Nov 8, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will trust your word
since you heard if from him
by Steel in FL on Nov 8, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
is your name any reference to Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy?
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 7, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with Jason Fox he is a good tackle, but that is still a bit of a reach
DE/DT is also a possibility for the Cowboys but not for the reason you are giving, Olshansky has been playing well so no one is going to replace him, but Spears’ contract is up after this season and we may need to draft someone if we don’t end up resigning him.
by quincyyyyy on Oct 30, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Ed Reed coming out of college.
Eric Berry: I disagree that Berry is the likeliest to not bust. To me it seems like people are so obsessed with the hype that they forget to look at the player. Berry isn’t very big, he’s not incredibly fast, and he doesn’t tackle well. I’d say he’s a bit risky as a prospect, but certainly less riskier than Mays.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 30, 2009 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He does tackle well ask Tebow and Mareno
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by rlott#42 on Oct 30, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well in Tebow's case
Tebow ram’d Eric Berry and then they both went to the ground. It was as John Madden puts it, What happens when the Unstoppable Force meets the Unmoveable Force.
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by TheTealDeal on Oct 30, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 plays
Do not show whether a player does something well or not.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 31, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are just plays I pointed out.
You have NO evidence supporting that he can’t tackle, is subpar, or whatever it is you’re saying about his tackling abilities. if he couldn’t tackle he wouldn’t be such a high prospect.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 31, 2009 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My evidence is from watching him and hearing other scouting reports that have said the same
Which is as much evidence as you have.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 31, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, if he has incredible instincts, quickness, and ball skills at the next level
But being a fast, undersized safety who doesn’t tackle well doesn’t make you Ed Reed.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 31, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said sounds like
And how the hell is he undersized, jarius Byrd is doing fine at 5’9". Berry is 6-0 194 with a 4.35 40 yd dash so where exactly did you get info that lead you to this statement?
Eric Berry: I disagree that Berry is the likeliest to not bust. To me it seems like people are so obsessed with the hype that they forget to look at the player. Berry isn’t very big, he’s not incredibly fast, and he doesn’t tackle well. I’d say he’s a bit risky as a prospect, but certainly less riskier than Mays.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=1735170
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by rlott#42 on Oct 31, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
University of Tennessee web site gives the same measurements
by Steel in FL on Oct 31, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is that too small?
Look up ed reed’s
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by rlott#42 on Oct 31, 2009 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His upper body looks weak
He struggles to wrap up and is overpowered at times in college.
Here’s some links from another draft blog that I respect (Seahawks Draft Blog), and their evaluations of Berry and Mays:
Whilst a lot of other people rave about the abilities of Eric Berry (Tennessee) and Taylor Mays (USC) – I feel like I’m watching a different game. Both have glaring flaws that seem to be negated by eye catching positives. In Berry’s case, he’s a very instinctive corner. This has helped him make a number of big play interceptions and when you put the ball in his hands, he’s a threat to take it back for six. If you type ‘Eric Berry’ into YouTube, you’ll likely see a collection of picks one after another. You’ll probably think, “This guy is Ed Reed”. The clips won’t show the number of whiffed tackles Berry makes or the times he’s just flat out over powered by a running back. He doesn’t wrap up his tackles and will be a liability in the NFL against physically greater players.
Here’s another:
With 5:14 left in the game he made a particularly ugly play, completely whiffing on Mark Ingram with Alabama pinned back deep in their own red zone. Ingram just runs to the right with Berry pushed up to the line of scrimmage and the running back just runs straight past him. I’m not even sure Berry touched the guy – he just flat out missed him as he ran straight past his ear. It’s such a basic play, to not even challenge Ingram at the line was just unacceptable for me. So many mock drafts have Berry going in the top ten, but if I’m taking a safety that early in round one – he doesn’t whiff on that tackle, simple as that.
I’m finding it increasingly difficult to place Eric Berry in the draft. He’s clearly a playmaking threat in the passing game, he reads plays well and he’s a threat to make an interception a pick six. On the other hand, he looks like he could be a complete liability against the run or simply facing the more physical receivers, tight ends and running backs in the NFL.
He’s 5’11" and 203lbs. Let’s get one thing clear early – I know that Ed Reed is only 5’11" and that he’s currently listed at 200lbs. Troy Polamalu is 5’10" and 207lbs. You don’t need Taylor Mays size and speed to be elite.
But when I watch Eric Berry, I don’t always see the kind of ferocious hitting witnessed by the two safety’s name dropped above. Sure, he’s capable of planting the odd hit. At the same time, I don’t see a real physical presence from Berry or a truly aggressive demeanour. On Saturday, I saw missed tackles as Berry struggled to match up to a tight end in space.
In the NFL, those tight ends are going to be bigger and better. So are the running backs. I have some concerns that whilst Berry will always have that big play ability, he could be a liability against bigger guys on offense. Can he make a last ditch tackle on a Steve Jackson? Can he challenge Antonio Gates?
I’ll admit my reservations about Berry are smaller than my reservations about Mays. But I think each safety’s strengths are the other’s weakness. Mays isn’t the ball hawk, field general that Berry is. The Vols DB hasn’t necessarily got the size or ability to deliver a thumping hit.
I’ll be really honest and say that as of today, I don’t think you’ll see either going as high as some are predicting right now. I’d be surprised if Berry or Mays are top five picks next April.
These are just excerpts of bigger articles if your interested in reading more of their opinion. But I agree with most of what they say, I’m interested in looking at the player beyond the typical hype, “Eric Berry bestest EVER LOLZ!!” I think Berry is really good, but he’s not a player without question marks or flaws. He’s not looked very good in run support at this point in his career and he’s not really very big either. i don’t think he’s as good as the hype around him and he’s not going to go in the top 3, if for no other reason than he plays safety.
by Brendan Scolari on Oct 31, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think he will be top 5
I’m looking at potential and those are flaws can be fixed with good coaching. I watched that game and play against Bama. Name the perfect DB or LB or DL that hasn’t missed a tackle or two in one game. As many tackles that are missed in the NFL it sounds like he’d fit in fine. I do understand that he can bust just like any other player from college. I don’t base my opinion ofr him off of highlight reels, I have watched a few of his games adn he can play corner as well as safety. Being versitile in that aspect is why I wouldn’t mind my team drafting him.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 31, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about a NFL weight training program
He’s only a junior and can still get stronger in the upper body. Good players adjust.
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by rlott#42 on Oct 31, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you would not draft a certain player just because he missed on one tackle
by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 31, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it when people make stuff up
Where did I say that? That’s right, I didn’t.
I said i don’t think he will be a top 3-4 pick, if for no other reason than because he’s a safety. I also think he has flaws and isn’t the “safest” player in the draft. How that gets warped into, “I wouldn’t draft Berry because of one missed tackle” I have no idea, but that’s a pretty silly of you to say.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 1, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“So many mock drafts have Berry going in the top ten, but if I’m taking a safety that early in round one – he doesn’t whiff on that tackle, simple as that.”
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say that
One of the writers for the Seahawks Draft Blog did.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 1, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
I posted the link because I respect the guy’s opinion in general, that doesn’t mean I completely agree with everything he say. I’m just showing that there are critical evaluations of Eric Berry too.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 2, 2009 3:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there are critical evaluations of every player.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 2, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
But you’d hardly know it if you listen to some of the things people say about Berry.
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 2, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Very interesting to say the least.
I like Bruce Campbell but with his injury history (although alot are minor) to go 6 is a bit high for my liking. Not saying it can’t happen though.
I can’t see Colt McCoy going that high. Maybe after interviews and working out maybe he impresses someone but as of now #12 is bit high.
It should be interesting to see if Parcells sticks to drafting D in round 1 or goes offense but LaFell over Bryant? I can’t see it.
Mike Williams really? Is he really a 1st rounder? Same with Jason Fox and Nate Allen. I love those guys but 1st round?
I can’t see Seattle not picking a tackle with one of their 1st rounders.
I don’t like Ghee and Robinson going that high.
Seems like a hugh drop for Gresham. I’m sure someone takes a chance on him before 57. Same with Best , Austin, Spikes, and Burnett. Odrick over Austin? I could see Spikes fall a bit due to a history of MLB falling but to the end of round 2?
I don’t think Hughes and Sapp play OLB in a 43 D. In a 34 D they could.
Seems a little low for Derrick Morgan and Jonathan Dwyer.
Who knows with Jerry Angelo running the show but I’m leaning towards no LB for the Bears with their first pick.
Kindle at 77?
I’m not sure how Curran does in a 34 D.
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by tj.hendricks on Oct 30, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Eagles...
we have virtually 0 need at DT. Bunkley is the man. Patterson is a technician, and does his job. Laws is rotational, and will never see starting time, unless there is injury to the two aforementioned. And, we have a monsterous NT named Antonio Dixon, who has usurped Laws in the rotation. Dude is a monster, is 22, and we swiped him off the Redskins dump-pile. (Thanks, Jim.)
So, you give us a DT with Spikes, Dowling, Burnett, Kindle, Morgan, and Hughes on the board? Are you kidding me?
As for the Raiders, I love it.
by birds'n'raiders on Oct 30, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least people aren't picking the Broncos to take a QB like before... teehee...
Anyway, their biggest need right now is probably interior OL, so I figure them to fix that early on.
And I’m not sure if they do really need a DT. Fields is playing well as the starter, and there isn’t any drop-off at all when Marcus Thomas fills in for him; rookie Chris Baker got people talking in the pre-season, and he’s currently being groomed slowly for a possible starting job in the future.
DE situation is pretty much the same, starters are playing well and the rotation is working (Robert Ayers, Vonnie Holliday, Le Kevin Smith). Really, I see them just going BPA in the first.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is Ayers
playing DE or OLB???
by birds'n'raiders on Oct 30, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Officially, he's playing OLB.
But in reality, he been playing a little bit of everything. Even DT.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 31, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll speak to your Lions selections.
At #6 the Lions would be more likely to take Gerald MCoy than Bruce Campbell. I am personally very concerned about Campbell’s injury history in college. If an O lineman has trouble staying healthy in college, I doubt that will improve in the pros. I see Campbell going in the second half of the first round.
The Round two selection of Miller is very unlikely. The Lions have Cliff Avril in that spot and are very high on him. I see Ras I Dowling – CB or Anthony Davis -OL as the best value for the LIons at #38.
I like your third round pick of CJ Wilson, but Reshad Jones – S or Kyle Wilson – CB/PR will get a long look.
Nice mock, easy to read and good explanations of your picks.
by NorthLeft12 on Oct 31, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Noel Devine
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Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu
by WVPiratesfan on Nov 1, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
94 = 3 rounds minus 2 picks
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by Colinski on Nov 1, 2009 2:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
I didn’t even notice that.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 1, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i love the eric berry and robinson picks for the browns.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but if they were to draft robinson, it probably wouldn’t be until the 3rd or 4th.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He hasnt done great the rest of the year.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 1, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
other than texas, he’s done decently. but the browns will probably not draft him, so it’s not really an issue.
by emily522 on Nov 1, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Buffalo Bills
I’d take that draft for the Bills in a heartbeat.
I know that Buffalo is getting run over and DT seems like a logical need, but the pairing of Marcus Stroud and Kyle Williams is actually one of the best parts of the defense. The run problems stem from playing guys like Ashlee Palmer, Chris Draft, Jon Corto, Nic Harris, Marcus Buggs and Keith Ellison at LB along with two injured safeties that have forced a converted cornerback (albeit one who picks off everything) Jairus Byrd and a special teamer and former WR in George Wilson into starters.
DT is a potential pick if it’s a best available type situation and McCoy is probably the best available and a great fit in the Bills defensive scheme and gives them a penetrator and pass rusher that they don’t have.
I think the Bills’ need for a WR is way overblown. Sure, they could use one, but they have so many other needs, that I’m not sure it’d be a smart pick with a big defensive end like Derrick Morgan or Everson Griffin or anybody that resembles an LT available. LB is a huge need too. Tate wouldn’t be a bad pick there, but I don’t think that WR is as likely a pick as outsiders think it is.
If you polled the Bills fans over at Buffalo Rumblings, I think they would come back with QB as the biggest need. As bad as he has played, Snead would be a great pick in the third. I’d be surprised if Buffalo didn’t address QB early in the draft.
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by kaisertown on Nov 2, 2009 12:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the QB assesment
Bills can’t the ball to the WRs. O-line can’t open holes for the RB, or protect the passer.
by Steel in FL on Nov 2, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Snead will stay for another year.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 2, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he is viewed as a 2nd/3rd rounder
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 2, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Arizona Cardinals
Love round one if he’s the best OT available. That’s a need and if he’s capable of being a day one starter then so be it.
Round two I simply don’t understand. Everyone lists CB as a need of the Cardinals but I don’t get. Judging from the players available, I would be extremely upset if they passed on Brandon Spikes in the second round. Inside backer is a huge need and I’d be downright pissed if they passed on him.
Round three: If that guy is the best OLB available then so be it. Ideally I’d like to see them trade up to take Jerry Hughes at the end of the second round but my love for him is starting to border on criminal.
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Nov 2, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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