It's Time To Mock #6
Same as usua, lots of underclassmen. Well aware not all will declare. Draft order is based on current standings and using strength of schedule from another site.
1. Rams QB Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame***
They need their future signal caller. I give a slight edge to Clausen over Locker. If any of the "big 4"(Clausen,Locker,Bradford,Mallett) impress in an interview and workouts it will be their name called.
2. Chiefs S Eric Berry Tennessee***
Decisions, decisions....... Berry? Suh? Okung? Bryant? If any team wishes to trade up the Chiefs will most likely listen. I gave them Berry but really it could be anyone.
3. Browns QB Jake Locker Washington***
Maybe they go Suh? Will Mangina even be coaching? Personally I think Brady Quinn got hosed but with the benching maybe they go Locker.
4. Lions DT Ndamukong Suh Nebraska
Suh or Okung? Schwartz remembers what a force inside meant to the Titans run last year. He will try to duplicate that with Suh.
5. Buccaneers DE Carlos Dunlap Florida***
He has been playing better lately so he could see his stock moving up again. Bucs have two DE's hitting free agency and they traded Gaines Adams, so Dunlap could hear his name called here. This should teach them not to win games you went from the #1 overall to #5 with one victory.
6. Redskins T Russell Okung Oklahoma St.
Tough choice go for the QB or someone to protect the QB? Okung could replace Samuels if he chooses to retire.
7. Raiders LB Travis Lewis Oklahoma***
WOW! Didn't see this one coming. Wait yes I did it is Al Davis. They have some LB's hitting free agency and Lewis does run a 4.48. Show of hands who had Bey as a top 7 pick? Show of hands who had Mike Mitchell as a 2nd rounder? Thought so.
8. Titans DT Gerald McCoy Oklahoma***
They get a force inside. Some like McCoy better than Suh.
9. Seahawks QB Sam Bradford Oklahoma***
The heir to Hasselbeck.
10. 49ers DT Terrance Cody Alabama
I really don't like putting Cody this high but I do believe he does go to either San Fran or Miami. Could be a force inside..... when he's breathing.... and not an air machine on the sidelines.
11. Bills WR Dez Bryant Oklahoma St.***
They could go tackle here but with TO leaving and Hardy can't stay healthy. Bryant would be a nice complement to Lee Evans.
12. Dolphins LB Rolando McClain Alabama***
The tuna usually goes D in round 1 so that leaves us Austin, Jones, McClain, Mays or reaching for someone else. I went McClain.
13. 49ers (CAR) T Bryan Bulaga Iowa***
I was kind of leaning towards Ryan Mallett here with the uncertainty of their QB situation and then I remembered in my last mock someone mentioned "you forgot they have Nate Davis" and Nate Davis >>>>>>Ryan Mallett. And that was when I had them taking one in the 3rd round. So no QB for San Fran because they have Nate Davis.
14. Jaguars DL Marvin Austin North Carolina***
I figured Marvin Austin would be a nice pick for them because if they do the 3-4 he can play DE if they go 4-3 he can play inside. If they decide not to play defense at all then this was a wasted pick, much like what would happen if they draft Tebow here.
15. Packers T Bruce Campbell Maryland***
Is there any doubt that they need a tackle? Anyone?
16. Broncos (CHI) DE Arthur Jones Syracuse
I never did like Kyle Orton, I never did like Jay Cutler. Now I have no 1st round pick. Life of a Bears fan is GREAT!!!!!
17. Jets WR Damian Williams USC***
They need WR's. Braylon is free agent hell everyone but Cotchery is.
18. Ravens CB Joe Haden Florida***
They could go WR here or they could grab the best corner in the draft.
19. Texans S Taylor Mays USC
They could use some help on D. Mays could be a steal here.
20. Giants LB Brandon Spikes Florida
They have some pending free agents at DT so they could go there or safety help in case Phillips never fully recovers. I gave them Spikes instead. Don't know why.
21. Chargers WR Arrelious Benn Illinois***
They have free agency issues at WR. Benn would be a terrific asset there.
22. Falcons DE Derrick Morgan Georgia Tech***
Helps the pass rush. Guess it's not bad that he is local as well.
23. Steelers S Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech***
Morgan just to let you know Troy uses Head & Shoulders. DON'T ASK WITH YOUR EYES!!!!!
24. Eagles LB Sean Weatherspoon Missouri
Witherspoon and Weatherspoon watch out. They'll spoon you.
25. Cardinals T Charles Brown USC
Replace Gandy instantly and I mean instantly they'll take him right now.
26. Seahawks (DEN) T Anthony Davis Rutgers***
Replaces Walter Jones. What a nice career he had.
27. Bengals S Earl Thomas Texas***
I don't think Thomas declares but anywho he would help their improving D.
28. Cowboys T Trent Williams Oklahoma
I don't know what direction they go first. They could use a DE/NT (either or) but none really warrant this pick Williams is better suited at RT instead of LT so he doesn't really replace Flozell. I don't know.
29. Patriots LB Sergio Kindle Texas
They need to up the pass rush.
30. Vikings QB Ryan Mallett Arkansas***
He doesn't fall this far someone will trade up for him.
31. Colts DB Ras-I Dowling Virginia***
Kind of in the mold of Marlin Jackson. Corner that can play some safety.
32. Saints S Chad Jones LSU***
I wouldn't be surprised if Dwyer is selected here. Jones helps a secondary that can loose Harper and/or Sharper.
33. Chiefs RB CJ Spiller Clemson
Dwyer might get the nod over Spiller but man has Spiller been impressive this year.
34. Browns RB Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech***
They need to run the ball and Dwyer will replace Lewis.
35. Lions DE Everson Griffen USC***
I don't know. No matter who I put here I get told no.
36. Bucs LB Greg Jones Michigan St.***
Can play inside or outside. They have some free agents at the LB position.
37. Rams WR Golden Tate Notre Dame***
Clausen gets his go to guy. You know they will be on the same page.
38. Raiders DE Greg Hardy Ole Miss
I don't know what Al will do. Maybe Trindon Holliday?
39. Patriots (TEN) TE Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma
They're not afraid to draft a TE high (Graham, Watson). These are the kind of moves that makes people hate the Patriots.
40. Redskins QB Colt McCoy Texas
Originally had this Christian Ponder but with him saying he'll stay at Florida St. (which I still don't 100% believe) it becomes McCoy.
41. 49ers G Mike Johnson Alabama
Baas is a free agent and Johnson could slide right in there.
42. Bills T Gabe Carimini Wisconsin***
Now they get their tackle to protect Trent Edwards (if it's still his job).
43. Dolphins WR Brandon LaFell LSU
They go WR here since Parcells went D in round 1.
44. Panthers DT Brian Price UCLA***
No QB? I think it all depends on who is coach. If Fox is still coach Delhomme is safe and they'll bring in a veteran to back him up. They have some free agents on the DLine and Price is excellent value here.
45. Seahawks RB Jahvid Best California***
He will improve that running game.
46. Patriots (JAX) G Mike Iupati Idaho
They have free agents at guard. If they let them walk they can grab one here.
47. Bucs (CHI) S Reshad Jones Georgia***
Jones is nice value here. I believe he can play free or strong safety. They just need to add talent.
48. Jets DL Jared Odrick Penn St.
WIll move to DE in their 3-4 D.
49. Ravens WR Terrance Tolliver LSU***
Now they get their WR. I nice big target for Flacco.
50. Packers LB Eric Norwood South Carolina
Don't know if he falls this far. If he does watch out Green Bay has had a nice draft.
51. Giants S Deunta Williams North Carolina***
Insurance for Phillips.
52. Texans DE Brandon Graham Michigan
Nice value here. They need to keep adding talent to the D.
53. Chargers LB Von Miller Texas A&M***
Merriman is a free agent. I've heard some say that he will be gone. Miller can get to the QB and even made Okung look foolish a couple of times.
54. Chiefs (ATL) G Rodney Hudson Florida St.***
Keep adding to OLine.
55. Steelers CB Donovan Warren Michigan***
Will replace Deshea Townsend. I like him alot.
56. Eagles DE Jason Pierre Paul South Florida***
Could go higher if he comes out.
57. Cardinals LB Jerry Hughes TCU
Pass rusher is what he is rush passer is what they want.
58. Broncos OL Zane Beadles Utah
Some say he is a tackle, some say he is a guard, Broncos have free agents at guard. Beadles it is.
59. Bengals DT Lawrence Marsh Florida ***
They could use another DT in case they loose Tank.
60. Cowboys DE Adrian Clayborn Iowa***
With them taking a DE, Ratliff will stay inside.
61. Patriots DE Cory Wootton Northwestern
Probably goes higher. I could have probably given him to the Cowboys. I should probably quit rushing this mock and take my time.
62. Vikings CB Patrick Robinson Florida St.
Could go DT but Robinson is good value here.
63. Colts T Selvish Capers West Virginia
Don't know if he lasts this long but he did in my mock so here he is.
64. Saints LB Navorro Bowman Penn St.***
Could fall due to character concerns but on the field he is dynamic.
65. Browns NT Phil Taylor Baylor***
Eventual replacement for Shaun Rogers.
66. Lions T Ciron Black LSU
Helps protect their investment in Stafford.
67. Bucs WR Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech***
I really do believe he can be the steal of the draft. They have some free agents at WR unless Clayton and Stroughter are good enough.
68. Rams CB Trevard Lindley Kentucky
They need talent. Period.
69. Chiefs T Lee Ziemba Auburn***
Keep adding to the line.
70. Titans DE Cameron Heyward Ohio St.***
Don't know if he falls this far or if he even declares. Heyward and McCoy are improving that D.
71. REDSKINS DE JEREMY JARMON KENTUCKY
Redskins used this selection in the supplemental draft.
72. Raiders T Joseph Barksdale LSU***
They have a couple free agents at tackle. But as always who knows with Al.
73. Bills QB Jevan Snead Ole Miss***
Now they go QB. Don't know if this is too high or low for Snead.
74. Dolphins LB Ricky Sapp Clemson
They need a pass rusher to replace Porter and Taylor.
75. Panthers LB Rennie Curran Georgia***
Still no QB. They have some free agents at LB as well and Curran is excellent value here.
76. Eagles (SEA) T Nate Solder Colorado***
Winston Justice is a free agent and Andrews is injured... frequently.
77. 49ers CB Kareem Jackson Alabama***
Couple free agents at corner.
78. Bears T Tony Washington Abilene Christian
Wow no 1st or 2nd round pick thanks Jerry Angelo. A Hole Angelo has said they need to improve the OLine (at least that is how I understood it). With the recent success of Danieal Manning and Johnny Knox I could see him trying Abilene Christian again.
79. Browns(NYJ) LB Brandon Lang Troy
I don't know, I'm sure I'll find out from TRSS who should go here.
80. Ravens DE Vince Oghobaase Duke
Great value pick.
81. Packers CB Dominique Franks Oklahoma***
Woodson and Harris aren't getting any younger.
82. Jaguars QB Tim Tebow Florida
This changes if they take him in round 1.
83. Texans CB Javier Arenas Alabama
In case Dunta leaves.
84. Giants DE Greg Romeus Pittsburgh***
Don't know if he falls this far but he would be a steal.
85. Chargers T Sam Young Notre Dame
They have some free agents on the line.
86. Falcons LB Quan Sturdivant North Carolina***
Don't know if he falls this far but he plays defense and that is what they need.
87. Steelers T Jason Fox Miami
In case Colon leaves.
88. Eagles CB Omar Bolden Arizona St.***
In case Hobbs leaves.
89. Cardinals CB Alterraun Verner UCLA
Because I still think they need a corner.
90. Broncos LB Micah Johnson Kentucky
Don't know.
91. Bengals TE Rob Gronkowksi Arizona***
Can you tell I'm getting tired?
92. Cowboys WR Dezmon Briscoe Kansas***
I like this guy and he is a WR which is something the Cowboys could use.
93. Raiders (NEP) S Major Wright Florida***
Don't know. Once again don't try and guess what Al will do. You will loose every time.
94. Vikings DT Jarvis Jenkins Clemson***
Probably doesn't drop this far he would be a great pick up here.
95. Colts LB Obi Ezeh Michigan***
Don't ask any questions.
96. Saints DT Allen Bailey Miami***
You know if the Bears wouldn't have traded their 2nd round pick I would only be doing a two round mock. If they didn't trade their 1st it would only be a 1 round mock. If you like the long(er) mocks thank Jerry Angelo, if you don't you can dislike him with me. By the way Bailey probably doesn't drop this far. I don't know why I use so many underclassmen but I do.
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tjh, There is nothing wrong with Griffen @ #35 for the Lions
They are all about best value. They could go in any direction, DE, CB, S, T, G, ..frankly a WR or RB would not shock me here. The only positions I think are out are DT [because of Suh in Round One], TE, C, or QB.
Some potential second round picks LT- Jason Fox [my first choice]; S- Jones or Allen or one of the half dozen other good ones available; CB- Warren, Arenas, or Lindley. Unless they think they can get one of these guys early in the third. I would take Arenas ahead of the other two.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 10, 2009 7:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Now you mention guard but a couple of weeks ago I had them taking Mike Johnson and you didn’t like it. I was thinking about Reshad Jones or Selvish Capers at that spot. You wouldn’t mind a RB? So Jahvid Best could be a option?
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, Best might not play again
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 10, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Its only a concussion, and I heard talk about him being able to play a game or two at the end of the Season. Some analyist said it was like Tim Tebow’s concussion injury. The only difference i guess is that this is Best’s 2nd concussion.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was paralyzed for a while thouggh.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 11, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was just knocked out
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by shake n bake on Nov 11, 2009 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats Not
Too uncommon. I have a friend who was paralyzed for about 5 seconds after making a tackle. Got up and played the next down…
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 11, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell I had that happen to me before
It’s nothing he will be back on the field.
I think this almost guarentees that he comes out. Shelf life on a RB is short as is with concussion issues now on the rise now is the time for him to leave.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would not like it if the Lions went for a Guard at #35....
I just said it is a possibility depending on how they value the available players. I personally don’t want an RB this early in the second, but again, it depends on who is available and how Schwartz/Mayhew have them rated.
My preference would be LT-Jason Fox or Anthony Davis or Charles Brown but it is possible that the last two and maybe all three will be gone. I don’t like what I have read about Capers.
My second choice is a CB. There are a lot of very good safeties that still might be around in the third or fourth round.
My third choice is a DE. Griffen, Morgan, Romeus, Heyward, or JPP.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 11, 2009 7:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we've already filled OT and OLB with two possible first day starters
I could live with a CB in the third. I really hope Hughes falls that far.
My personal opinion is that if Micah Johnson were on the board in this scenario they’d take him. With Dansby’s departure all but certain, they’ll need an ILB to groom (if not start fairly early).
Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
by Bezekira on Nov 10, 2009 8:51 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was between Verner and Micah Johnson.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Wow no 1st or 2nd round pick thanks Jerry Angelo."
Really?
Is Jay Cutler not worth a first round pick?
Now, if you want to question the 2nd round being given up for Gaines Adams, I could listen to you. But they weren’t going to draft someone as good as Cutler with that pick. Not even close.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Nov 10, 2009 10:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
They gave up TWO first round picks
I think that’s where it bites them. Not having a first or second rounder in back to back years will catch up to you.
by Zorak84 on Nov 10, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Cutler deal was a good trade.
You also have to look at what the Bears have done with their last few 1st round picks. Which is nothing. At least for two years in a row they can say they got a franchise QB who will be with the team for a long time.
Bottom line, I think Jerry Angelo has lost faith in his ability to draft well at the top of the draft. Now thats another discussion to have. But Cutler for two 1st round picks is a good enough deal.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Nov 10, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
You can’t keep trading 1st Round Picks and it not catching up with you. Jay Cutler is Worth a 1st, but maybe not 2 1st Round picks.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who says they're going to keep trading 1st round picks?
I think they’ve only done it once (the Cutler trade) and you just said that Cutler is “maybe not” worth 2 1st round picks. Well, “maybe” he is. So, in that case it’s what got the deal done and you can’t make the argument that he’s not worth it.
Jay Cutler is a known commodity and is still extremely young and under contract through 2013. Sometimes when the right deal comes along you just have to take it. I don’t see the big deal. The Bears got a Pro-Bowl caliber, young, franchise QB. Not every team has someone nearly that good and QB has been an issue for the Bears forever. Now it’s not.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Nov 11, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying Cutler can be solid, i have him on my fantasy team,
I’m just saying that 1st Round picks should require extra hesitation because they unlock your team’s future.
If you look at other similar Trades, most of them are not worth the picks and the money.
Look at the example of success and fail.
Rob Johnson
Schaub
I hope he is worth the investment you put into him.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He isnt EXTREMELY young. He is kinda young
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 11, 2009 5:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was a Pro-Bowl quarterback
and was 25 when the Bears acquired him.
You’re arguing semantics.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Nov 11, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I say they will
Because Jerry Angelo hates me.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What good is a QB with a bad line and iffy WR's?
Worth a first round pick? Yes certainly. Worth two first round picks? Pushing it. I was never really big on Cutler. While our WR’s have done better than expected what good is a QB (worth two first round picks) if you have a average (at best) line and not so good WR’s?
I was high on Michael Oher and seeing we could have had him helping our line and possibaly draft a QB in this draft (Ryan Mallett perhaps?).
Honestly I’ve just never been a fan of Jerry Angelo, he gets by because every year he finds one guy later than round 3 that produces and the higher ups love that, nevermind the fact he can’t get the first two rounds right.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Show of hands who had Mike Mitchell as a 2nd rounder?
according to either ESPN or NFL network (don’t remember which one but think it was NFL network) your Bears would have taken him if the Raiders didn’t beat them to him.
by Steel in FL on Nov 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
"THEY ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE".......
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by FreeBradshaw on Nov 10, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I read that as well.
I would have probably disowned them at that point, thank you Al Davis.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They are who we thought they were?
Why did you let them get away?
by Steel in FL on Nov 10, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
DB to Indy is possible
I think OT or MLB are more likely but it seems like you were out of ones you liked as first rounders so DB is fine. If a stud Guard is there that’d be in my second tier of possibles with DB, behind OT and MLB.
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by shake n bake on Nov 10, 2009 5:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was torn between Greg Jones and Dowling at #31. I’m higher on Jones than others but decided Dowling might not be a bad choice he is in the mold of Marlin Jackson who I believe is a free agent.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson will be a FA
but he could be back cheap, see below
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by shake n bake on Nov 11, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does secondary Injuries make drafting a DB
a need in the Draft for your Colts, Shake?
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Polian has publicly said that Bob Sanders will be back next year
and since 2010 is the cheapest years on the 6 year contract he signed after 07, it’s very believable.
Marlin Jackson will probably hit the market, but a guy that didn’t have good speed to begin with now on two surgically repaired ACLs might not be able to find a home outside of a cover 2, barring a move to safety. It’s possible he’s back for cheap. Hayden’s been nicked up but he’s in year 1 of a 5 year deal so he’s going to be around for a long time. Bullitt and Bethea will probably be back, either on RFA tenders or new extensions. The main reason I don’t think DB is a top level need right now is that the rookies, Jerraud Powers and Jacob Lacey are playing so well right now.
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by shake n bake on Nov 11, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“I don’t know, I’m sure I’ll find out from TRSS who should go here”
I couldnt tell if this was a sarcastic comment, but:
Lang isnt a bad pick, but Wimbley has been great so far, and Trusnick has played well in his short time with the Browns.
I think a tackle or a CB would be a better pick. Franks, Fox, Arenas, and Young are all guys I would rather have.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 10, 2009 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No sarcasm, just wasn't sure what direction they would go in
I didn’t even think of a corner, it was between a tackle or Lang. I’ll keep corner in mind.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, Eric Wright is good, but the only other CBs we have are probably just nickel backs
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 10, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see Berry going before Suh. I can really only see a QB going before Suh. He’s been so dominating.
by Der Jaeger on Nov 10, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So the Chiefs would take Suh? Dorsey/Jackson/Suh three straight years of defensive lineman? Not saying it couldn’t happen, I just don’t see it happening.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In this particular mock...
… KC would go Okung first, Bryant second.
Overall, though, I can’t see Berry higher than Suh.
by Der Jaeger on Nov 10, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t see KC going with Byant first. They have Bowe, and Chambers and Wade are okay for now. They desperatly need O-line and a runningback.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 10, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wait...
why are the Rams picking 1st overall and then 5th in the 2nd round and then 4th in the 3rd round? It maka-no-sense.
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Because if you finish with the same record the picks rotate each round. With five teams tied at 1-7 they rotate each round.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it would be cool for Clausen and Tate to be on the same team, then I saw it was the Rams
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 10, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is agreeable
I laughed at our 1st Round description.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the Jaguars should stay with our Traditional 4-3
As evident by last week. So I’d hope we do not transfer to a 3-4 Defense.
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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 8:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you liked that
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
some observations
I know people keep disagreeing with your Lions picks but I don’t know who they take. If last year was any indication for future drafts, they will take BPA no matter what (except for QB now).
As a Buffalo fan I agree the team needs a WR but I don’t see them drafting one in the first two rounds. If a stud DT or QB is there they may take him but I still believe LB and OL are the top priorities.
For those of you who think KC should take Suh, remember he’s probably best suited as a DT in a 4-3. KC plays a 3-4 where Suh would probably be a better fit as DE. They just took Tyson Jackson last season and Dorsey has been moved to the other end spot. They could trade down to try and get one of the other DTs or just draft OL / S which are their biggest needs.
Do you think SD takes a RB like Dwyer in the first or even a DT like Cody or Austin if he’s there? I just think there are a lot of WRs in the draft that SD would feel comfortable waiting on.
The Patriots and Saints are hard to figure out.
For most of your picks I agree though it’s obviously way to soon to know what’s going to happen. I enjoy your mock drafts each week. Keep up the good work.
by Zorak84 on Nov 11, 2009 9:20 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think a “stud” DT will be there, while Arthur Jones and Marvin Austin are good I can’t help but not put them high. I thought putting Austin at #14 is a little high. I had them taking Travis Lewis a couple mocks ago and was told that there is pretty much no way that happens. It came between Bulaga and Bryant and Bryant won out in my mind just due to no matter who is the QB their WR situation is unsettled. Lee Evans is very underrated and Hardy just can’t stay healthy.
If Cody falls to the Chargers I do believe they snatch him up. QUICK. But I don’t see him falling that far more teams are running the 3-4 now and need a NT, with San Fran, Denver, and Miami picking before them I believe one of them will take him. I would not be surprised if San Diego took a RB in round 1. Tomlinson is slipping and Sproles is a pending FA. They could look at Dwyer or Spiller there.
Thanks for the comment.
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by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
great draft!
only pick I really disagree with is Gronkowski to the Bungals, but only because the coaching staff is high on Chase Coffman, but are still teaching him how to block. I’d give them Jarvis Jenkins or Allen Baily there.
I could see the Chiefs passing up Suh for Berry, only because of scheme. But if they switched back to a 4-3 (just a hypothetical, cuz god knows it wont happen), imagine Hali / Dorsey / Suh / Jackson. Wow. Run against that, I dare you. But anyway, Suh wouldn’t fit in a 3-4 (I don’t think), especially one as crowded with talent (albeit that doesn’t fit either cough Dorsey cough).
I think people really have to incorporate trades in their mocks. For example, what are the Browns gonna do with Brady Quinn when/if they draft a QB? I think the Redskins are the perfect candidate, and a conditional 2011 2nd round pick would do. But the same could be said for the Bills, Jaguars, Panthers, 49ers, Seahawks, Titans, and even the Chiefs, Raiders, and Broncos (still waiting on Kyle Orton to fall apart…it will happen)
Suh to Lions equals wet dream to William Clay Ford. Great pick.
That kinda puts the Bucs in a bind, because Suh has been their target for over a year. I think if it plays out this way, they go ahead and reach for Gerald McCoy. I think Dunlap has been relegated to the realm of late 1st round at this point.
Okung to Skins is very solid.
Travis Lewis to the Raiders is a very good pick. Well, I mean its a very Al Davis pick, but I think it could play out perfectly. They will retain one of their two big time LBs, possibly both. and adding Lewis to play SLB would be amazing. Even so, they need some protection from DTs.
I really dislike Cody going top 10. He is a 2 down NT in college. Whilst a beast at what he does, man…he seems more like a fringe 1st rounder. Granted, I know someone is gonna reach for him, I still don’t think that top 10 is viable. More like late teens or early 20s.
Bryant is good value for the Bills at 11.
McClain to Dolphins at 12 is amazing value.
Bulaga over Bruce Campbell?
Marvin Austin at 14? A little bit of a stretch, but I could see it.
I personally see Art Jones falling to the 2nd round on draft day because of his season ending injury. But if the Broncos get that pick, I could see them reaching for him.
Haden and Mays are great picks at that position on the board.
I’d give the Chargers Charles Brown there. Rejus Benn is doing nothing this year, albeit because Juice Williams can’t throw him the ball, but nothing nonetheless.
Love the Clausen-Tate combo for the Rams.
I fucking hate the Patriots :D
Norwood and Brandon Graham as mid 2nd rounders…!!! I’m horrified. I can see Norwood falling, but Graham is a beast. Top 10 on my board. Love the guy.
Ciron Black would have to play G for the Lions. They have a solid RT in Gosder Cherilus.
Barksdale has the makings of an amazing LT in the league. Great Raiders pick.
Bailey to the Saints at the bottom of the 3rd round is amazing for them.
All in all a good draft, I disagree with a few picks, but I see what your getting at with them. Great work
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 11, 2009 10:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I gave the Bengals a DT in round 2. Lawrence Marsh. You think they need another one?
I’m not going to incorporate trades. Mocking is hard enough. You get too many fans of teams now that don’t like who there team picks then trying to sell them on a trade. HA good luck. I’ll leave that to someone else.
I was thinking of McCoy to the Bucs. They are a team that needs talent. They have some free agents coming up and they could go a number of ways. I was even thinking Dez Bryant there. Dunlap is playing well right now and it just so happens that this is the time to pick it up a notch. If and this is a big IF Dunlap can keep this up I do believe his stock moves right back up to top 10 status. McCoy, Dunlap, Bryant, even Okung. I would not be surprised by any.
I dislike putting Cody that high as well, I just feel with San Fran, Denver, Miami all in that area all could use a NT he won’t get far. I’m not huge on him as is but I can’t see him being passed by these teams that run a 3-4.
To me Bulaga and Campbell are virtually even. You can talk me into Campbell over Bulaga and then someone can talk me right back to Bulaga.
I really do believe that Marvin Austin will skyrocket up draft boards with workouts/combine especially if he runs the rumored 4.8 40 (Al Davis). With him going to Jacksonville I saw the versatility which they need until they decide on which D they run.
I did this mock before I heard of Arthur Jones out for the year.
Yes Benn isn’t having a great year but I do see him being a workout warrior plus I’m a little biased I’m a Illini fan.
Some say Graham can play OLB in a 34 some say no. I don’t know. With having Derrick Morgan and Everson Griffen in this draft that can drop him plus if teams don’t think he is a 34 OLB then he can drop a tad more due to a few more teams running the 34.
thanks for the comments
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys don't really have any real needs
so whoever is the best player available is probably a good pick.
by quincyyyyy on Nov 11, 2009 1:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
amazing how that changes in a couple weeks....
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
amazing...
how a lot of things change over a couple weeks….
for example, I just want my Eagles to keep up the string of injuries so we can end the year with a high enough draft pick to fetch Eric Berry, because at this point, with all of the injuries we’ve had, its a virtual certainty we won’t win the Super Bowl. But, its also a virtual certainty that we will be close…God dammit!!!!!
Guys we’ve lost for the year:
1. Stewart Bradley, potential All-Pro MLB. ACL tear. Season, over.
2. Shawn Andrews, All-Pro OG, RT. More back issues. Season, over. Career, possibly over.
3. Cornelius Ingram, potential mega-TE. Lit up Training Camp, moreso than Brent Celek, who will be in the Pro-Bowl this year. ACL tear. 2nd tear of same ACL in less than 2 years. Season, over. Career, most likely, over.
4. Stacy Andrews, beast OG, brother of Shawn. Recovering from ACL tear at end of last year. Having setbacks. Facing hard time returning to the starting lineup. Season, up in the air.
5. Ellis Hobbs, Nickle-Back/KR. Having a crappy year, but a lot of the stuff we do in the secondary is based on the Nickle CB coming in. Depth, gone.
6. Brian Westbrook. Beast/RB/WR. Always injured. Career, plus or minus 1 season left.
7. Kevin Curtis, solid WR. No one has any idea, but he hasn’t been healthy since the NFC Championship game last year.
Fuck it, lets just develop young players, rest the vets, and go for it next year…
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 11, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WOW! Forget about the Pro Bowl, let's just have the Eagles play the rest of the NFL.
I never realized how loaded you guys are. Add in three potential All Pro QBs, Co-Offensive rookies of the year in RB McCoy and WR Maclin, All Pro Jason Peters, All Pro WR DS Jackson, underrated WR J. Avant, ……..jeez I don’t even want to think about that stellar defensive unit.
How do you pay for all that talent? You guys should be undefeated and winning by thirty points every game. I guess you are just unlucky.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 11, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
easy now.....
Kolb can be good…but lets not call him all-pro yet. Vick is basically a POS at this point too.
McNabb has his inconsistencies..but he is the only All-Pro QB they have.
The Eagles have done a great job.
They actually have a TON of cap room. Most of these guys are all by way of the draft or a few shrewd trades/signings.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I wouldn't go and call them unlucky...
I’d call them “the Eagles”….
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bradshaw
i’d say that NorthLeft was being a tad sarcastic….but I thank you for revealing some truths.
In turn, I will say that the Giants are a very good team, and first and foremost I blame your resent losing steak on Eli’s foot problem, the nagging DLine injuries, and whatever the hell is wrong with Brandon Jacobs (seriously, what’s up with him?)
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 11, 2009 5:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh...
yea, I agree on the Eli thing. He played like the Eli I know last week, and he said it himself the foot felt fine on the Friday before gametime ( and he showed it too, he would have had a 90% completion if he didn’t have to be Houdini behind the suddenly porous O-line…(What’s wrong with THEM now….).
Jacobs…well, really nothing. Since the SAINTS GAME!! Actually he’s been normal Brandon Jacobs for the most part. The Eagles game was actually his worst one.
Its just kinda funny that they give Jake the ball 20+ times when he’s <4YPC…yet when he’s the normal Jacobs…rumbling around and knocking the snot out of people gaining 6+ YPC…only 11 times.
They’ve been taking him out on third down and using Bradshaw…who has a fractured foot!….
I dunno man. I think they need to get Danny Ware involved. I thought he’d be a Derrick Ward type…but Coughlin’s got him in the doghouse for some reason…..
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why go there?
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Keeper of the "That's what she said"
by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he went there first
just defending my team’s Honor
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 11, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me,
Your team doesn’t need anyone defending its honor.
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Keeper of the "That's what she said"
by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
Your team is a good team, its play on the field defends it honor, thus you don’t need to.
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Keeper of the "That's what she said"
by TheTealDeal on Nov 12, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lighten up bnr.
It was not a shot at your team, it was a shot at your attitude. Optimism is good but a few of those guys you mentioned have long histories of injuries. Yes they are talented, but have always been held back by recurring spells of injury. Why did you think it would change?
That is my #1 reason for avoiding OT Bruce Campbell of Maryland. If a guy is injured in college, it is unlikely that will improve in the NFL.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 13, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tell me about it...
a few weeks ago..the Giants were the hardest team to peg in the draft cuz they had it all.
The Giants don’t have the injuries of the Eagles…yet its the nagging sort that’s killed them.
The O-Line is banged up.
-McKenzie looks old and slow. Seubert is banged up and just doesn’t seem to get out on the pull as he used to. Diehl was very good last year and early on this year as the LT, but there’s something there that say he needs to go back to LG where he could be one of the best in the game.
D-Line-the GIants 2 FA haven’t done squat. Tuck is banged up and in an out. Osi’s recovering from offseason ACL. Robbins and Cofield are recovering too from microfracture surgery…and have been below average (for them…)
LB-Pierce is old, slow and shot. Boley can’t stay on the field. Not a single LB they’ve drafted can beat out frickin Danny Clark…..They need some infusion of talent here.
Secondary? The injury to KP is huge, he was really the scaffolding of the entire secodary.
Kicker sucks. Punter is old and can’t kick the ball 40 yards.
Even the RB’s are constantly hurt.
…..all that said, a few wins and like the Cowboys…there’s no needs at all :)
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I feel ya brother
and i’ve been raised to hate you’se guys
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 11, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
preciate it...
I still got a feeling we’ll be playing 3 times this year.
They’ll always be the “friggin Eagles” and “God damn Giants”. Only fans of the two teams know…so friggin annoying..but they’ll be there.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Would you like some cheese with that wine?
Every team has injuries.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 11, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea...
but ours had SB thoughts.
Your’s had TOp 10 pcik thoughts….
Just sayin….
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 6:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does that have to do with ANYTHING! We still want to win.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 11, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
slim
for competitive teams, it means everything
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 11, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Every team has injuries. That is a fact. Just because you have a good team doesn’t mean you can wine about them.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 11, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea it does...
if a crappy team like the Raiders or Browns was healthy it doesn’t matter..they still suck.
The Giants and Eagles injuries a worse cuz it takes them back to the middle of the pack.
Tho really is the middle of the pack teams, like Tennesee, Houston and Chicaco, teams like that that if they are 100% they can make a move.
But teams like the Raiders, Browns or Bills….just doesn’t really matter.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it does not pass the sniff test.
Because we are better than your teams anything bad that happens to us is worse than the same thing happening to you.
Wow, that is some convoluted logic. Sounds like you are a Wall Street investment banker, FB.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 13, 2009 6:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
dude...
we can sit here and play footsie or call it like it is: if a team with superbowl ambitions loses a bunch of their best players to injury, it is a lot worse than a bad team (who appears not to be getting better) losing some of there’s. I know we are supposed to be all about even opportunities to win, but in reality, no one really cares (in the grand scheme of things) if, lets say, Brady Quinn gets injured. However, everyone cares if Peyton Manning does. Because there goes Indy’s superbowl hopes.
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 13, 2009 7:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll stick with Shady......even the Browns and Lions and....
want to win and have ridiculous hopes for a Super Bowl. Signing and playing a bunch of guys who have long histories of injuries [ie. Westbrook, Andrews brothers, B. Jacobs, C. Ingram, etc.] then expecting them to play for a full season injury free makes no sense to me. That is not being unlucky. Peyton Manning getting seriously injured is being unlucky because he never has.
Yeah, injuries suck, no matter who they happen to. We don’t use them as an excuse for not winning very many games, you should not use it as an excuse for not winning the SB. In the end, nobody will care why you did not win the SB, they will just know that you didn’t.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 13, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thing is...
its not guys like Jacobs..the Andrew brothers…Westbrook, etc. that is the problem.
Both teams know they’re all injury prone and have taken precautions (Eagles-McCoy, lots of capalbe O-Linman..Celek was the starter anyway) and the Giants (Ware, Bradshaw..even Andre Brown was drafted and put on IR, )
They don’t expect them to play full season…so that’s why they do the logical thing and have backups.
Those guys being injured is also not the problem
Its guys like Stewart Bradley, Kenny Phillips, Kevin Curtis—role players that are solid, yet not injury prone. Bradley and Phillips were about to become stars for their team.
So yea, a team that doesn’t win the SB looks like all the other ones who don’t win it.
But a team with no hope it doesn’t really matter.
I know its hard to listen to, cuz you and “shady” are fans of the Lions and Browns, while I’m a Giants fan and bnr is an Eagles fan.
But that’s just the way it is.
One injury is not really gonna make a difference for the Browns or Lions. They could be 100% healthy and still suck.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 13, 2009 9:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My last word....
If an injury to a role player kills your chances for the Super Bowl, then maybe you never really had a shot at the Super Bowl to begin with.
by NorthLeft12 on Nov 13, 2009 9:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
but guys like Phillips and Bradley aren’t’ role players.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 13, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'm a Bears fan
and we just suck!
Quick what’s the difference between Jay Cutler and Rex Grossman?
Rex Grossman only cost us one 1st round pick not 2. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Not sure why I’m putting this here but with the talk of teams sucking the Bears belong in the discussion.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 13, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, I hope you don’t mind but I like seeing the Bears waste a ton on a bum QB. It makes me feel better about the Browns.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 13, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know bad teams still have a chance at beating good ones.( remember last year on MNF when our teams played). In baseball my favorite team is the Yankees, and just cause they are good doesnt mean I use injuries as an excuse when they don’t win.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with my original post
“Would you like some cheese with that wine?
Every team has injuries"
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 13, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why not with the Yankees?
Posada and CM Wang were 2 huge injuries in 2008.
Not saying they win the WS if they are healthy, but they definitely make the playoffs
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 13, 2009 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because everyone has injuries
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 13, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It is
We discovered that Free can play LT, when we sat Flo in the 4th quarter just for the heck of it in Seattle and Free did well against Patrick Kerney, and was a very effective run blocker.
Backup DE Stephen Bowen keeps on making plays
Wide receiver Miles Austin and now rookie WR Kevin Ogletree are proving themselves.
I’m really not concerned about any of our positions.
by quincyyyyy on Nov 11, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also saying...
that while I agree with you, the Cowboys seem like they don’t need anything but BPA right now…it can change in a couple weeks.
I mean good luck and all…but don’t count them chickens….chances are something you thought was a need early on, probably still is.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 11, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So apparently 58 yards this season is proving yourself.
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 12, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kevin Ogletree has looked good in preseason games
and has done well when he has been in the games. In fact Jason Garrett says we plan on using him more.
by quincyyyyy on Nov 12, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As the fourth receiver?
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Nov 12, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Garrett will find ways to get him on the field
Against the Eagles you saw Garrett find different was to get the ball in his hands. Bubble screens and reverses, and he excelled the few times his name was called.
by quincyyyyy on Nov 12, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Word
I was wondering if they were going to take Crayton off the field in place of him.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
by Bestjagfan on Nov 12, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crayton will get his snaps but he is now a backup
it depends on the situation
by quincyyyyy on Nov 12, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since when did doing good in the preseason become proving yourself
by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 12, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and against the eagles
with the chances he was given
by quincyyyyy on Nov 12, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
cough*false start adams*cough
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 11, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Backup tackle Doug Free is the future at the LT position
And yes Adams false starts a lot. He has been doing that for years, as he is deaf in his right ear. But he can still take on opposing teams’ best passrushers. I’m willing to take a false start here and there for that.
by quincyyyyy on Nov 11, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
a coach?
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wade isn't really that bad
I think his seemingly lackadaisical demeanor makes him an easy target.
by quincyyyyy on Nov 12, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've always been against him since
The Buffalo Bills when he benched Flutie for Rob Johnson. Ever since then I just never really cared for the guy as a coach. Great defensive coordinator, iffy head coach.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 13, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like OG depth.
How versatile is Arthur Jones?
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Nov 13, 2009 12:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
whats the deal with greg hardy?
Some people have him as high as a top 10 pick and someone have him in the second round
by Habte E on Nov 13, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like the Fins mock.
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
Sparano: Joey Porter, What is best in life?
Porter: To crush The Jets, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of Mark Sanchez
by Patssuck456 on Nov 15, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Mallet...
omg this guy is amazing. I’m officially on the bandwagon. He is the best QB in this class. Looks like Peyton Manning with his command of the field, and has an arm that may be stronger. Dude has the best play-action fake I’ve ever seen from a QB. Its already better than Brett Favre’s. His pump fake needs some work. Footwork is great, but can get sloppy when he relies soly on that cannon mounted to his right shoulder. His accuracy has gotten incredible over the past 3 weeks.
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 16, 2009 12:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
easy now...
they played Troy.
I said it back from the Georgia-Arkansas game tho, Mallent is a future #1 overall.
I thought it would be next season, but yea…its possible this season.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 16, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's top 5 in Qb's probably
but the best no.
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
The Flavour of the Day is Turf. - Courtesy of the Jacksonville Jaguars
Keeper of the "That's what she said"
by TheTealDeal on Nov 16, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Payton Manning only completed 55 percent of his passes in college?
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 17, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, Peyton haha
Sorry, not big on learning how to spell NFL players’ names correctly. :-)
by Brendan Scolari on Nov 18, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
praying he goes
to mahhh Raaaidaazz…well, that and Al gets committed to an old-folks’ home
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 16, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
only reason I want next year uncapped
is to cut JaMarcus loose without any dead money. And Javon Walker.
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 16, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol.
He seems like the QB that “Jamacus” was supposed to be.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 16, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ya..i know..
but Mallet actually plays well consistently, has pocket awareness, gives a shit about the sport of football, and isn’t a piece of shit loser. JaMarcus can’t say as much. Only thing JaMarcus has on Mallet is he can throw the ball 10 yards further from his knees. In fact, that’s the only thing they have in common, a strong arm.
by birds'n'raiders on Nov 16, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
all that's true
..tho I would say, I think Mallet’s arm strength could match ‘Jamacus’.
"It ain't over till its over"---
by FreeBradshaw on Nov 16, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mock #7
New mock coming Friday. I’m including more rounds because I broke my leg and have absolutely nothing better to do.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Nov 17, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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