Draft rankings 11/5

by tj.hendricks on Nov 6, 2009 12:53 AM EST Comment 43 comments

Needed to update my rankings.

1. Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame***

2. Jake Locker Washington***

3. Sam Bradford Oklahoma***

4. Ryan Mallett Arkansas***

5. Christian Ponder Florida St.***

6. Colt McCoy Texas

7. Tim Tebow Florida

8. Jevan Snead Ole Miss***

9. Tony Pike Cincinnati

10. Tim Hiller Western Michigan

11. Dan LeFevour Central Michigan

12. Zach Robinson Oklahoma St.

13. John Skelton Fordham

14. Rusty Smith Florida Atlantic

15. Max Hall BYU

16. Jarrett Brown West Virginia

17. Thaddeus Lewis Duke

18. Darryl Clark Penn St.

19. Juice Williams Illinois

20. Ryan Perriloux Jacksonville St.

1. CJ Spiller Clemson

2. Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech***

3. Jahvid Best California***

4. Evan Royster Penn St.***

5. Montario Hardesty Tennessee

6. Ryan Matthews Fresno St.***

7. Joe McKnight USC***

8. DeMarco Murray Oklahoma***

9. Noel Devine West Virginia***

10.Toby Gerhart Stanford

11. Charles Scott LSU

12. Ben Tate Auburn

13. Anthony Dixon Mississippi St.

14. Brandon Minor Michigan

15. Chris Brown Oklahoma

16. Keiland Williams LSU

17. James Starks Buffalo

18. Stafon Johnson USC

19. LeGarrette Blount Oregon

20. Javarris James Miami

1. Cory Jackson Maryland

2. Dorin Dickerson Pittsburgh

3. Jack Corcoran Rutgers

4. Rashawn Jackson Virginia

5. Matt Clapp Oklahoma

6. Richie Brockel Boise St.

7. John Conner Kentucky

1. Dez Bryant Oklahoma St. ***

2. Damian Williams USC***

3. Arrelious Benn Illinois***

4. Golden Tate Notre Dame***

5. Brandon LaFell LSU

6. Terrance Tolliver LSU***

7. Demaryius Thomas Georgia Tech***

8. Dezmon Briscoe Kansas***

9. Mardy Gilyard Cincinnati

10.Danario Alexander Missouri

11. Eric Decker Minnesota

12.Jordan Shipley Texas

13. Naaman Roosevelt Buffalo

14. Terrell Hudgins Elon

15. Kerry Meier Kansas

16. Jeremy Williams Tulane

17. Chris McGaha Arizona St.

18. Mike Williams Syracuse***

19. Bryan Anderson Central Michigan

20. Dexter McCluster Ole Miss

1. Jermaine Gresham Oklahoma

2. Rob Gronkowski Arizona ***

3. Anthony McCoy USC

4. Aaron Hernandez Florida***

5. Garrett Graham Wisconsin

6. Ed Dickson Oregon

7. Dennis Pitta BYU

8. Colin Peek Alabama

9. Dedrick Epps Miami

10. Tony Moeaki Iowa

11. Andrew Quarless Penn St.

12. Michael Hoomanawanui Illinois

13. Cody Slate Marshall

14. Mickey Shuler Penn St.

15. Richard Dickson LSU

Tackles

1. Russell Okung Oklahoma St.

2. Bryan Bulaga Iowa***

3. Anthony Davis Rutgers***

4. Bruce Campbell Maryland***

5. Charles Brown USC

6. Trent Williams Oklahoma

7. Gabe Carimini Wisconsin***

8. Selvish Capers West Virginia

9. Ciron Black LSU

10. Lee Ziemba Auburn***

11. Joseph Barksdale LSU***

12. Nate Solder Colorado***

13. Sam Young Notre Dame

14. Tony Washington Abilene Christian

15. Jason Fox Miami

16. Adam Ulatoski Texas

17. Kyle Calloway Iowa

18. Chris Scott Tennessee

19. Ed Wang Virginia Tech

20. Michael Tepper California

Guards

1. Mike Johnson Alabama

2. Mike Iupati Idaho

3. Rodney Hudson Florida St.***

4. Mike Pouncey Florida***

5. Jon Asamoah Illinois

6. Sergio Render Virginia Tech

7. Zane Beadles Utah

8. Mitch Petrus Arkansas

9. John Jerry Ole Miss

10. Eric Olsen Notre Dame

11. Brandon Carter Texas Tech

12. Shawn Lauvao Arizona St.

13. Thomas Austin Clemson

14. Chris Marinelli Stanford

15. Dan Doering Iowa

16. Vladamir Ducasse UMASS

17. Andrew Lewis Oklahoma St.

18. Jeff Byers USC

19. Shelley Smith Colorado St.

20. Kurtis Gregory Missouri

Centers

1. Kris O'Dowd USC***

2. Maurkice Pouncey Florida***

3. Stefan Wisniewski Penn St.***

4. JD Walton Baylor

5. Matt Tennant Boston College

6. John Estes Hawaii

7. Ted Larsen NC St.

8. Kenny Alfred Washington St.

9. Josh McNeil Tennessee

10. Jacob Hickman Nebraska

1. Carlos Dunlap Florida***

2. Derek Morgan Georgia Tech***

3. Everson Griffen USC***

4. Greg Hardy Ole Miss

5. Brandon Graham Michigan

6. Jason Pierre Paul South Florida***

7. Cameron Heyward Ohio St.***

8. Adrian Clayborn Iowa***

9. Greg Romeus Pittsburgh***

10. Cory Wooton Northwestern

11. Cliff Matthews South Carolina***

12. Ricky Sapp Clemson

13. Jerry Hughes TCU

14. Thaddeus Gibson Ohio St.***

15. Jermaine Cunningham Florida

16. Brandon Lang Troy

17. Alex Carrington Arkansas St.

18. George Selvie South Florida

19. Rahim Alem LSU

20. Tyson Alualu California

21. Antonio Coleman Auburn

22. Brandon Deaderick Alabama

23. Lindsey Witten UCONN

24. Greg Middleton Indiana

25. Auston English Oklahoma

1. Ndamukong Suh Nebraska

2. Gerald McCoy Oklahoma***

3. Marvin Austin North Carolina***

4. Terrance Cody Alabama

5. Arthur Jones Syracuse

6. Brian Price UCLA***

7. Jared Odrick Penn St.

8. Lawrence Marsh Florida***

9. Vince Oghobaase Duke

10. Phil Taylor Baylor***

11. Allen Bailey Miami***

12. Jarvis Jenkins Clemson***

13. Demarcus Granger Oklahoma

14. Geno Atkins Georgia

15. Dan Williams Tennessee

16. D'Anthony Smith Louisiana Tech

17. Jeff Owens Georgia

18. Boo Robinson Wake Forest

19. Jerrell Powe Ole Miss***

20. Al Woods LSU

OLB

1. Travis Lewis Oklahoma***

2. Sean Weatherspoon Missouri

3. Sergio Kindle Texas

4. Navorro Bowman Penn St.***

5. Von Miller Texas A&M***

6. Rennie Curran Georgia***

7. Eric Norwood South Carolina

8. Bruce Carter North Carolina***

9. Michael Morgan USC***

10. Stevenson Sylvester Utah

11. AJ Edds Iowa

12. Dexter Davis Arizona St.

13. Roddrick Muckelroy Texas

14. Perry Riley LSU

15. Keenan Clayton Oklahoma

16. Justin Cole San Jose St.

17. Rico McCoy Tennessee

18. Dekoda Watson Florida St.

19. Reggie Carter UCLA

20. Clinton Snyder Stanford

MLB

1. Rolando McClain Alabama***

2. Brandon Spikes Florida

3. Greg Jones Michigan St.***

4. Quan Sturdivant North Carolina***

5. Micah Johnson Kentucky

6. Darryl Washington TCU

7. Obi Ezeh Michigan***

8. Josh Bynes Auburn***

9. Sean Lee Penn St.

10.Jamar Chaney Mississippi St.

11. Pat Angerer Iowa

12. Boris Lee Troy

13. Joe Pawelek Baylor

14. Darryll Sharpton Miami

15. Ryan D'Imperio Rutgers

16. Ryan Reynolds Oklahoma

17. Mike McGlaughlin Boston College

18. Jared Norton Texas

19. Josh Hull Penn St.

20. Kion Wilson South Florida

1. Joe Haden Florida***

2. Ras-I Dowling Virginia***

3. Donovan Warren Michigan***

4. Patrick Robinson Florida St.

5. Trevard Lindley Kentucky

6. Kareem Jackson Alabama***

7. Dominique Franks Oklahoma***

8. Javier Arenas Alabama

9. Omar Bolden Arizona St.***

10. Alterraun Verner UCLA

11. Kyle Wilson Boise St

12. Crezdon Butler Clemson

13. Brandon Ghee Wake Forest

14. Myron Lewis Vanderbilt

15. Akwasi Owusu Ansah Indiana (PA)

16. Patrick Stoudamire Western Illinois

17. Perrish Cox Oklahoma St.

18. Jerome Murphy South Florida

19. SydQuan Thompson California

20. Walter Thurmond Oregon

21. Stephan Virgil Virginia Tech

22. Devin McCourty Rutgers

23. AJ Wallace Penn St.

24. AJ Jefferson Fresno St.

25. Brian Jackson Oklahoma

Safeties

1. Eric Berry Tennessee***

2. Taylor Mays USC

3. Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech***

4. Earl Thomas Texas***

5. Chad Jones LSU***

6. Reshad Jones Georgia***

7. Deunta Williams North Carolina***

8. Major Wright Florida***

9. Nate Allen South Florida

10. DeAndre McDaniel Clemson***

11. Chris Culliver South Carolina***

12. Darrell Stuckey Kansas

13. Justin Woodall Alabama

14. Kam Chancellor Virginia Tech

15. Myron Rolle Florida St.

16. Larry Asante Nebraska

17. Barry Church Toledo

18. Darian Stewart South Carolina

19. Kurt Coleman Ohio St.

20. Anderson Russell Ohio St.

21. Bo McNally Stanford

22. Antonio Baker Louisiana Tech

23. Kyle McCarthy Notre Dame

24. Harry Coleman LSU

25. Van Eskridge East Carolina

1. Brett Swenson Michigan St.

2. Aaron Pettrey Ohio St.

3. Leigh Tiffin Alabama

4. Mike Salerno Northern Illinois

5. Hunter Lawrence Texas

6. Joshua Shene Ole Miss

7. Josh Arauco Arkansas St.

1. Zoltan Mesko Michigan

2. Mike Brandter Iowa St.

3. Jeremy Boone Penn St.

4. Matt Dodge East Carolina

5. Brent Bowden Virginia Tech

6. Robert Malone Fresno St.

7. Matthew DiLallo Colorado

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Moeaki is so good

but he’s made of glass.

Nice to see some Clayborn love. He’s a monster.

I’d also probably scratch Doering from the guard rankings considering he’s not only out of the starting lineup, he’s was passed up for the backup job by Riley Reiff.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

by shake n bake on Nov 6, 2009 1:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

That is 100% my bad I did not even realize that about Doering.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 8, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, but it's not like he sucked

both the guys that ended up in front of him are former/future left tackles.

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

by shake n bake on Nov 8, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I feel like Dan Williams might go a few places higher

he is one of the better NT’s in the draft and 3-4 teams will covet him

by quincyyyyy on Nov 6, 2009 6:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I would think Boo Robinson is a bit higher.

He’s fat and takes ups space, good at it too. THat usually gets you drafted.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 7, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

All the DT’s I have listed I can see them going in round 4 or earlier. This is a decent draft if you need a NT.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 7, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not really. I see some DTs but not many guys big enough to play NT

by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 8, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cody, Taylor, Woods, Williams all could play NT. It’s pretty decent.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 8, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Boo is 295

How fat is that?

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 8, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah he is a 4-3 DT

by quincyyyyy on Nov 8, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I am watching Ryan Mallet against South Carolina

goddamn does this kid play ball. He has the best play action fake I’ve ever seen on a college QB. It rivals Brett Favres, RIGHT NOW. He can work the defense with his eyes so well. Man, if he keeps it up, I can see him in the top 5. Even no. 1 overall. I’m amazed by his ability.

by birds'n'raiders on Nov 7, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

also

his accuracy has GREATLY improved. The dude has completed 37/40 passes. Knows when to check down, but still likes to show off that cannon mounted to his right shoulder. Terrific arm strength. I compare him to Joe Flacco.

by birds'n'raiders on Nov 7, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

and its his first year of starting.

I think he’s a top 5 pick. I said the first game I watched him against Georgia that he’s amazing. He’s had a few clunkers..against Florida, Alabama and Ole Miss…but 2 of those teams are the best in all of college football…with defenses taht are the best in college football. And Ole Miss is no slouch on D either.

Flacco’s a good comparison. I think once all the teams get a good look at him in the offseason, he could possibly be the #1.

It depends on where he goes if he’s going to be good. Cuz Flacco and even Matt Ryan have pretty solid O-Lines and running games to rely on, same thing with Mark Sanchez who’s 1 year starting seems to compare with Mallett.

He probably goes 1st tho, he’s definitely a Flacco clone.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 7, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He probably should go back for one more year tho....

that’s what made Flacco and Ryan such good rookies and it really even helped for the second year too.

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 7, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

also,

watching Arkansas play offense, this is exactly what the Raiders should be trying to do

by birds'n'raiders on Nov 7, 2009 2:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

What are they doing

by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 7, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

as my o-line coach likes to say

“It looks like a dun’ ol’ cluster fornication out there!”

oh Coach Stone…former Oklahoma State lineman/Opera Singer/ general beast

by birds'n'raiders on Nov 7, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Opera Singer ok.

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Mechem on the roots of Troy Polamalu

by WVPiratesfan on Nov 8, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ponder over....

McCoy, Tebow, Snead, Pike and LeFevoure? Really? What am I missing about this guy? I have never been impressed with anything he has done.

by PurpleJesus on Nov 8, 2009 11:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Really Tebow and LeFevour over Ponder? What am I missing?

To me it’s a toss up between McCoy and Ponder. I’ve never been big on Pike. Snead depends on workouts his stock has taken a hit but how much is up for debate.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 8, 2009 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Zoltan Mesko

could he be anything other than a kicker with a name like that

by WVPiratesfan on Nov 8, 2009 7:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Could be a GI Joe villain…

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by Mocking Dan on Nov 8, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was thinking about Superman or Batman

by WVPiratesfan on Nov 10, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Seems like the safety class is potentially the deepest (depending on how many underclassmen declare, of course). I mean, you have Nate Allen ranked #9, and that’s reasonable…and Allen’s still a pretty nice prospect.

It’s funny…seems like this QB class has been so anticipated, but the more we go along, the less thrilling they seem. I think they’ll be interesting to watch.

I almost want to think a lot of them will slide, as there seems to be a murky consensus on who’s the top QB on the board, or whether or not there’s any “franchise” potential in any of them. I also wonder, given this may be the final year of elevated rookie salaries, if teams may decide it’s wiser to wait another year and try drafting a QB in 2011 and beyond, when the slotted salaries take hold (e.g., if your QB busts, better it be on a smaller contract than a Stafford-sized one).

But, never underestimate the QB position in the draft. I wasn’t convinced there was a franchise QB last year, but two QBs went in the top 5. So who knows?

by jianfu on Nov 8, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I thought the same thing last year,

but what I think really had the biggest impact was the play of flacco and ryan. After they did so well every team wanted to draft and start a rookie qb. Freeman was thought to be a mid-2nd round prospect and was taken, what, 17th?

So I think the play of Stafford, Sanchez, and Freeman will have the biggest impact on where the qbs get drafted next year.

by Naptime! on Nov 8, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Stafford and Sanchez have played decent considering their teams aren't that good

and Freeman played good today in his first game of the year.

Gonna see a lot of QB’s go in round one, if those top 4 on this list declare, they’re all possibilities (maybe 5 with Tebow….for some reason).

DO WHAT JERRY HAIRSTON DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by FreeBradshaw on Nov 8, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thad Lewis

Has to be at least top 15. I know I’d rather have him over Max Hall and Jarrett Brown.

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by Bestjagfan on Nov 8, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I dont see anything special about him

by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 9, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah

Despite the fact he is 14th in the nation in yards, ahead of Locker and Stanzi, and only 19 yards away from Colt McCoy; has a ranking in the 140s; has more passing touchdowns than Ponder, Locker, and Robinson; and has less interceptions that Snead, Locker, Ponder, and Robinson. All of this with some of the worst receivers in college football. He has good arm strength, good accuracy, great mobility, and makes good decisions even when under pressure and throwing to receivers who get little separation.

I’m not saying draft the guy in the first round, but I really do think teams could start giving him looks in the third.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 9, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know about the third. I doubt he will get much attention though unless he has good workouts, so its hard to tell.

And those stats aren’t THAT impressive

by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 9, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

All Im Saying

Is he puts up the same or better numbers on a weekly basis(except for last week, though it wasn’t a poor game) as the top prospects. He should have good workouts, the guy is a bit of a specimen, it wouldn’t surprise me if he ran a 4.6 forty.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
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by Bestjagfan on Nov 10, 2009 5:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Insert Texas Tech QB here.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 2:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Difference

Is TT QBs have good receivers, plus that throwing to spots system. Dukes offense is a lot of shotgun, but has pro style philosophy and route designs. Plus he takes plenty of snaps from under center to be considered ready for an NFL style offense.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Nov 10, 2009 5:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm just talking about stats

Not who has the better WR’s or the style of offense. Chase Daniel, Graham Harrell, and Joe Ganz had some impressive stats last year as well didn’t get them drafted. To me stats in college football are too inflated because of “systems”.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Harrell couldn't throw past 5 yards

Never heard of Ganz. Daniels is 6’0. If Daniels was three inches taller he would be drafted

by Steel in FL on Nov 10, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ganz was the QB at Nebraska

I’m not talking about size or surroundings. Just the mentions of where one is ranked in a statistical category in college ball doesn’t intrigue me. Too many “system” guys and all.

You can mention plenty about Thad Lewis besides mentioning stats such as 14th in the nation in total yards, 19 passing yards away from Colt McCoy, and less interceptions than Stanzi and Snead. Well Max Hall has a 70% completion compared to Lewis 62% and has a higher rating by 31 points does that mean Max Hall should be taken ahead of Thad Lewis? No. Stats aren’t sh!t.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kyle McCarthy is 25th?

I don’t follow any of these other guys, so I don’t necessarily know what I’m talking about here. But, man, all he does is make every tackle ever and pick off passes to end games. Is it just because the rest of the ND defense is so terrible that it’s making him look better to me? Please don’t answer that – I’m still trying to get over the Navy game.

by Naptime! on Nov 10, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You’re not alone. Im thinking Meyer(doubtful), Kelly, Patterson, or Harbaugh to replace the big man.

by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 10, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I loved the Navy/Notre Dame game

Not because I’m a Notre Dame hater but I served in the Navy. It’s always great to see them upset a “big team”.

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 10, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you serving the country then.

by TheRealSlimShady on Nov 10, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

thank you very much

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by tj.hendricks on Nov 12, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I always go with the Military Team

against someone I have no feelings for.

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by TheTealDeal on Nov 11, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs