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Denver Broncos Mock Draft




 

After the Broncos' loss to the Oakland Raiders, some new areas of weakness have really emerged, namely on the interior of the offensive and defensive lines.

Thanks to former Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler and the Bears, Denver is currently armed with the eighth overall pick, one that could be very attractive to teams who want to move up for an elite level prospect in a very top-heavy draft.

One candidate who could possibly be willing to trade up is the Baltimore Ravens.  Trading up would be completely out of character for the Ravens, as they usually keep their picks or trade down for more.  They consistently build their team through the draft, and often end up taking the best player available when they pick.

This season, their main target in the draft needs to be a premiere wide receiver, and they will not be able to pick one up if they stick with the 21st overall pick.  That is why they should trade up with the Denver Broncos and acquire wide receiver Dez Bryant, who could be the top receiver prospect the Ravens crave.

Here is my projected trade:

Ravens Receive

  • Broncos' first round pick (8th overall)

Broncos Receive

  • Ravens' first round pick (21st overall)
  • Ravens' second round pick (54th overall)
  • Ravens' fifth round pick (150th overall)

It may seem a bit steep for a top ten pick, but the Ravens really seem to be on the verge of a Super Bowl contender, and an elite wide receiver prospect could vault them to where they need to be.

Meanwhile, the Broncos' draft slate appears to be much more filled out than it previously was, looking as such:

  1. 21st overall (from Baltimore)
  2. 54th overall  (from Baltimore)
  3. 55th overall
  4. 87th overall
  5. 134th overall
  6. 150th overall (from Baltimore)
  7. 192nd overall
  8. 242nd overall

With eight picks, the Broncos can much more easily take advantage of this very deep draft, and they need to start it off by going big in the first round.

1.  First Round, 21st overall (from Baltimore):  Mike Iupati, Guard, Idaho

6'6" 330 lbs.

Iupati is a very hot prospect right now.  He has very imposing size and would fill an enormous void on the interior of Denver's offensive line at left guard. 

For a long time, I have been defending former Iowa guard/tackle and current Broncos reserve Seth Olsen as the player to be the heir apparent at left guard, but the Broncos would be wise to take Iupati and hope Olsen can be the future at the center position or depth at tackle and guard.

Iupati is an elite level guard prospect, and the Broncos can get him for a relative bargain.  He would provide Denver with great size on the interior, and would be the fourth piece out of five in what could potentially be the most talented young offensive line in the NFL with Ryan Clady, Ryan Harris, Chris Kuper, and Iupati.

Denver has really struggled to run the ball consistently and their interior pass protection has been marginal at best, though Kyle Orton doesn't always do the greatest job of escaping the pressure.  Iupati would greatly help Denver's pass protection, and would give Ryan Clady the help he needs at the left tackle position to succeed.

 

2.  Second Round, 54th overall:  Demaryius Thomas, Wide Receiver, Georgia Tech

6'3" 230 pounds

This might seem a bit off the wall for Denver, who already have one of the deepest and most talented receiver cores in the NFL, but this would be a very, very smart pick.

Besides the fact that Thomas would likely be a first round pick if he had a quarterback who could get him the ball better, he fits a lot of different roles that Denver would like to have filled.

First of all, the Broncos lack a true deep threat opposite Brandon Marshall.  Certainly Eddie Royal has excellent speed, but his skills would best be used from the slot as many Denver fans anticipated.  Thomas has excellent speed, and could sneak into the first round based on his measurables alone.

Also, Thomas would take a lot of pressure off of the Broncos' other receivers.  Though Brandon Marshall has seemingly been the only wideout on quarterback Kyle Orton's radar all season long, another big play receiver could really free up Marshall on the opposite side and Royal in the middle.

Thomas would also be a solid developmental prospect in case Brandon Marshall bolts in a couple of years.

 

3.  Second Round, 55th overall:  Toby Gerhart, Running Back, Stanford

6'2" 240

Not a big shocker here.  As I mentioned in the early stages of the reasoning for Mike Iupati, the Broncos have really struggled running the ball, largely due to their lack of depth (or use of it in the case of Peyton Hillis). 

While many believe Peyton Hillis is the obvious answer for the Broncos as the team's power back, head coach Josh McDaniels has refused to use him this season for whatever reason, and he is simply being wasted.  Sadly, Hillis could be traded or released come this offseason if the team doesn't find a better use for him, though now that he has not played much his value may be diminished.

All of that being said, Toby Gerhart would be the perfect fit for the Broncos as a power back.  The Broncos have really struggled with short yardage plays, and the additions of Gerhart and Iupati could potentially erase those struggles.

 

4.  Third Round, 87th overall:  Myron Lewis, Cornerback, Vanderbilt

6'2" 204

Lewis is a relatively little known prospect but he has very good measurables and has proven to be a very durable, versatile player in his football playing career. 

He has nine interceptions the last two seasons, and was named second team All-SEC in 2009.  His size makes him a very attractive prospect for the next level, especially because of his ability to help in the running game as an effective tackler.

His size helps him bat down balls much more frequently than many other cornerbacks, though his speed at times is somewhat of a liability.  He is quicker than fast and reminds me a lot of Charles Tillman of the Chicago Bears.

 

5.  Fourth Round, 134th overall:  Micah Johnson, Middle Linebacker, Kentucky

6'2" 258 lbs.

The Broncos could very easily look to this position much earlier in the draft, but Johnson is great value here.  He is a mammoth against the run, and almost fits the exact same mold as current Denver linebacker Andra Davis.  He is not so much fast as he is quick, but he is very versatile.

Johnson is close to a liability in pass coverage, but he can stay in on passing downs to rush the passer, an area he excels.  Some scouts believe him to be best fit as a pass rusher or strong side linebacker in the 3-4 defensive scheme.

 

6.  Fifth Round, 150th overall:  John Skelton, Quarterback, Fordham

6'5" 258 lbs.

Skelton is a very intriguing prospect to me.  I recently found out about him, and was extremely impressed.  He is quickly becoming one of the more popular prospects in the draft, and according to other reports, the Broncos have been scouting this kid since August.

They have been watching him this whole season, and with good reasoning.  Skelton is a physical marvel and has all of the tools to succeed at the NFL level.  With proper coaching, which he would receive in Denver, he could wind up being one of the bigger steals in the draft.  He has great footwork, escape-ability, and good zip on short range passes.  He throws a nice deep ball and can make any and every NFL throw.

Watch for this kid on draft day, he is an intriguing prospect.

 

7.  Sixth Round, 192nd overall:  Anthony Moeaki, Tight End, Iowa

6'3" 247 lbs.

As I have said in previous mock drafts, I think the Broncos are going to have a tough time passing on the versatility of Moeaki, especially at a position where they could lose Tony Scheffler at the end of the season.

Moeaki has been oft-injured in his time at Iowa, but he is one of the better players to come through Iowa City this decade.  He will likely fall in the draft due to his injury plagued career, but he is an excellent blocker in addition to being a good pass receiver.

He has good vision after the catch, though his speed is average.  He could be a nice find for some team late in the draft.

 

8.  Seventh Round, 242nd overall:  Erik Cook, Offensive Lineman, New Mexico

6'6" 315 lbs.

Cook adds quality depth and versatility to the Broncos' offensive line.  He is a very underrated prospect who could be the sleeper to fill the Broncos' void at center for the future.

He has experience in college at all of tackle, guard, and center, and could really provide the Broncos with some quality depth if injuries occur throughout the season.

 

There may be questions as to why I have not included defensive line in this particular segment.  I believe the Broncos will address the defensive line with the deep free agent class of 2010.  The defensive lineman available in 2010 are fairly deep, though it is very heavy on the top end and it lacks a lot of true 3-4 fits other than Terrence Cody as a nose tackle.

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you left out the n1st rounder aquired from the bears secondly this is fantasy worse then fantasy no one mockinjg projectsa trade especially one with a team that doesnt do such and very well could Dez at 17 or so IF they have to have him

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by Blaze453 on Dec 22, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

Well

I guess you have the right to your opinion. You don’t have to read if you don’t want to I guess. Projecting a trade is no different than projecting players, IMO.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 22, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure how to comment on this but this is not a realistic trade

. There will be WR’s with potential available at 21. Ozzie will not make this trade. As Blaze points out, if the Ravens really think they have to have Dez some sort of trade with number 15 through 17 will get him without giving up the second pick.

by Captain who on Dec 23, 2009 12:04 AM EST reply actions  

None worth a first round pick

The only receiver in this draft worth a first round pick is Dez Bryant.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 23, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't Agree

Golden Tate is definitely worth a first; especially for the Ravens, who look like they could use a receiver who is great after the catch. Tate is a gamebreaker. Brandon Lafell isn’t a sure first round selection, but I would take him there. Nice all around receiver who could pair with Mark Clayton once Derrick Mason retires.

You can argue all you want about lack of production, but Arrelioious Benn could turn out to be the best receiver in the draft. Probably worth a first to a team willing to take a chance.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 23, 2009 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Golden Tate

Probably a fringe first round prospect who will be taken in the first round because of a team’s need. Not that Tate wasn’t productive or can’t be productive, but he is what, 5’11"? Dez Bryant is a legit 6’3" and he runs after the catch better than a lot of receivers. Two 5’11" receivers doesn’t make for an elite passing attack, unless you can name me one.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 23, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright, I'll give you that one

DeSean Jackson: 5’11"
Jeremy Maclin: 6’0"

Though their leading receiver in terms of receptions is Brent Celek, who is 6’7"

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 23, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Brent Celek

is NOT 6"7.

More like 6"3 or 6"4 at the most.

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 23, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

its pretty damn good.

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 23, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't Matter

I think the Ravens would be fine with the 10th ranked passing attack if they had similar receivers. Last time I checked they are a ball control team.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 23, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

No on Colts

Reggie Wayne: 6’0"
Pierre Garcon: 6’0"
Austin Collie: 6’0"

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 23, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?

You’re going to base your argument on an inch? You asked for an elite passing team w/5’11" receivers and he gave you the best passing team in the league with 3 receivers listed at 6’0". Tall receivers are nice, but I think they’re glorified for no reason by most fans (and the Chargers).

If you’re throwing a lot of jump balls, I think a WR with a decent amount of body control is far more likely to come down with it than a guy who’s 6’5" and can’t get position on a DB. If you have a guy w/both – then you’ve got a real talent, but if you’re really throwing that many jump balls that it matters (outside of goalline passes) then you’ve got bigger problems than how tall your WRs are.

Even w/shorter receivers, the Colts have one of the best redzone offenses in the game – and you can’t forget about the last ten years when Harrison was tearing it up. What was he, 5’10" 180? So I think he gave you a pretty good example. It’s okay to acknowledge the respectability of an outside point of view, even if it contradicts the point you’re trying to make. Every rule has its exceptions, it doesn’t necessarily make you wrong.

by Naptime! on Dec 23, 2009 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrong. It is one out of the few elite passing attacks.

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 24, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

To throw a couple more out there, the Giants had a lot of success the first month or six weeks of the season throwing the ball to 5’11’’ Steve Smith and Mario Manningham and without Hakeem Nicks.

Chicago has really struggled, but they’ve got shorter WRs too with Hester, Bennett and Knox.

Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes and Mike Wallace are all 6’0’’ or shorter too.

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by kaisertown on Dec 24, 2009 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Nap Time

Your just a ND homer. What he said is right, No team has an elite passing attack with two 5’11 WR.

Furthermore, This mock is short sighted. You can definitly tell a fan made it. Micah Johnson wont go in the 5th. Your dreaming if you think the Ravens make that trade. When did we start mocking trades?

by darwithabar on Dec 23, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Who are you?

First off, Dar, if you haven’t noticed the restraint I’ve used over the past two weeks to not reply to any of your inane comments, then do it now and realize that I’m doing my best to comply w/Dan’s no vulgarities rule. The arguments you get in w/the other members are mind boggling and it’s nearly impossible to defend you. So, please don’t bait me – I see you do it to everyone else on the board. I went into detail over the glorification of tall receivers and you come back at me that I’m a ND homer?

Second, yes I’m a ND homer, which means I’ve watched every ND game for the past several years, including the last three w/Tate. So, yes, I’ve watched him and his size has never been a hindrance in any way which isn’t in any way the point I was trying to make. Size is glorified by fans and certain programs and it isn’t with others – like that example with the Colts. Remember when Sayre (the person I was talking to) asked for an elite passing offense w/2 5’11" WRs? And the Colts were used as an example – arguably the best passing offense of the past ten years, with their cornerstone being a 5’10" receiver and Wayne 6’0" on the other side. Are you really going to argue over that one inch Reggie has?

Personally, the reason I don’t like acknowledging you on this board is because I’ve never seen you argue to prove your viewpoint, you argue to irritate people. Just like what you said to Sayre – you’re just repeating what other people are saying, except you’re not explaining your reasoning. At least other people had the decency to back up their comments. Look at what Captain Who said. He said the exact same thing you were, before you did, and he wasn’t insulting at all.

“You can definitely tell a fan made it.” Excellent comment. Would you like to tell us why Snead is going to be the first pick of the draft again? Oh, because he has a terrible line – that makes perfect sense. Don’t pretend you’re so impartial if you plan on calling out everybody else.

Do me a favor – I really like this board – and once, just once, pretend that you’re talking to an adult and give some kind of justification to what you’re saying and do it with a sense of civility. Making somebody feel like crap for their opinion doesn’t make your case any stronger.

by Naptime! on Dec 23, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Welcome to our world Naptime.

dwb seems to be one of those unappreciated draft geniuses that know everything us mere mortals never will. He does not suffer any differing opinions from us “fans”.

The guy is a joke.

by NorthLeft12 on Dec 23, 2009 8:30 AM EST up reply actions  

As for your North Lett

Ive given you every statistic disproving your theory that Backus is good. Average LT do not give up 40 sacks in 40 years. You’ve not given any proof or stat that disproves mine. If you could atleast come up with one thing, I would listen. You just can’t, So this is what you rely on. All you’ve ever said is “How many Lions games have you watched?”

by darwithabar on Dec 25, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

He isn’t 40 years old, how could he have played that long?

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 25, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Jason Peters gave up more sacks than any player in the league last year and Philly still thought he was pretty good. You’ve also got to consider Backus’ and Detroit’s situation. Backus got stuck playing in a Mike Martz pass happy offense and have been jumping around between QBs like Orlovsky, Culpepper and the rookie Stafford with a little Drew Stanton thrown in. Those guys are taking lots of sacks, regardless of the OL in front of him.

As an example, Matt Cassel got sacked more than any QB in the league last year behind pretty much the same OL as Brady plays behind. Cassel was sacked 47 times last year and has been sacked 41 times through 14 games this year while Brady has only been sacked 15 times. Bad QBs are going to get sacked far more often than good ones, regardless of the lineman in front of him.

Detroit also has a pretty bad OL around Backus. The pocket collapsing and QBs being forced to move around is going to lead to the QB holding onto the ball longer. When the pocket falls apart DEs are going to get a few easy sacks on a rolling out QB or on a guy who already knows he is getting sacked and just tucks the ball and goes down.

And he’s not saying that Backus is some great LT who you can build an offense around. He simply thinks that it isn’t some massive need that requires being drafted over better players at other positions.

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by kaisertown on Dec 25, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you kt. An excellent comment.

The Matt Cassel analogy is a very good one. In 2008 the three Detroit QBs were sacked at vastly different rates. If you projected each separately for sixteen games it worked out to:
Orlovsky 28 sacks, Culpepper 60 sacks, and Kitna 63 sacks.
They all had the same guys blocking in front of them yet ended up with completely different results. Go figure.

But dwb is too busy blaming ALL the sacks on Backus.

by NorthLeft12 on Dec 25, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Naptime!, thank you. Everyone please hit actions then rec on his post.

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 24, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

ITS THE TRUTH

You’re only defended him because your a ND fan. Thats called being a homer. Please, I said ND is overrated and Backus sucks and you three have been on me. Also, If you insist on replying to me about “Comments Ive made in the last 2 weeks” A) Make sure ive even been on here B) Check your spelling. How can I take this post seriously. Ive gotten in one fight on here, How do I bait people? Seriously, Find one time besides TJ and TRSS!

Also, What the poster said was right. Whether you want to argue about one inch or not doesnt matter. NFL teams will look at his size and judge him on it. The difference between 5 11’ and 6’0 is huge in the NFL. Stuff like this proves you dont know what your talking about. This is an NFL mock draft site. If you want to defend your favorite players thats fine, but be realistic. The poster didnt say anything wrong, sure his post is homerish, but so are alot of people. He said “Name an elite passing attack with 2 5’11 WR” not "2 WR around 5’11.

by darwithabar on Dec 24, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

“Ive gotten in one fight here”

“Find one time besides TJ and TRSS”

?

shut up

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 25, 2009 1:11 AM EST up reply actions  

We dont defend Tate near as much as you and your love Snead.

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 25, 2009 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t really want to go any further w/this – I don’t see it going anywhere. I was talking more about WRs and issues w/height more so than Tate. I like him, I’ll admit, but I don’t really care how he’s evaluated or where he goes. I was just saying taller receivers that can’t use their size to their advantage are a dime a dozen.

B) Check my spelling? Reread my post, and I’m pretty sure you won’t find any spelling errors. I’m a Reading teacher, so you aren’t going to find too many spelling or even grammatical errors.

The reason I went on my rant was to hopefully hold up a mirror and show you why other posters have become frustrated with the way you throw labels at them. I seriously hope, for your sake and for the sake of any children you bring into the world, that you will use a little more tact when discussing differing opinions. Because that’s all they really are, not right or wrong, just different viewpoints.

by Naptime! on Dec 25, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool

I need a reading/english teacher.

I like to put comma’s (these , things, ) anywhere, I write something then add them later, I flunked english bad.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Bears suck, Cubs suck, Bulls suck, Illini suck, who would have thought the Blackhawks would be my best shot at a title.

by tj.hendricks on Dec 28, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, i never knew there were rules when doing a MOCK DRAFT! LOL

Jeez dar take a pill.

I seem to recall the Ravens moving up last year to get Oher. But I guess that does not count. In 2003 I believe the Ravens traded up to #19 to get Kyle Boller. Gave up their 2003 second round and 2004 first round pick I think. But that does not count either. Ozzie Newsome has no history of trading up form #21 to #8 so you are technically right.

by NorthLeft12 on Dec 23, 2009 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't

They move back first though?

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Dec 24, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

You learn something every day. They went from 8th to 17th and picked up a Franchise Guy. Isn’t Ozzie something else.
Thanks for the history lesson.

Merry christmas

by lifelongvike on Dec 24, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

They moved back, not up. You said up. I would know, since the Jaguars used that 8th pick to select Derrick Harvey.

Merry Christmas to you to

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Dec 24, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

When did I say the Ravens never make trades?

All I said was they wouldnt make that trade. It is stupid to mock trades to me, Because they are so random. No one team has been known to trade every year in the first round. There is no pattern or anything to go by.

by darwithabar on Dec 25, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

There's no pattern for anything

That’s why the draft is so much fun. It’s brand new every year. There is nothing wrong with projecting trades.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 25, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, because 1 inch is a HUGE difference, right?

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 24, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Completely different. Anyway, thats a yard, not inches. And it has nothing to do with height. Try again

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 24, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

One Inch means everything

Geez, This is such a joke. One inch means everything in the NFL and most importantly when it comes evaluating the draft. If Golden Tate was 6’1, He would probably go in the top 10. If he was 6’0 he would probably go in the top 20 atleast.

by darwithabar on Dec 25, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

That doesn’t mean it will affect his career. I don’t even know why I argue with you.

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 25, 2009 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe for the draft....

not for actually being good in the NFL.

One Inch doesn’t mean anything.

"It ain't over till its over"---

3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 25, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He

Is still going in the top 20 despite his height.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Dec 25, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Epic Fail

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Dec 24, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont do the trade, you can’t predict those. And also I think you might need a 4th for skelton

by TheRealSlimShady on Dec 23, 2009 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

You can predict whatever you want

That’s why it’s called a mock draft. Skelton could go in the fourth, but he is relatively unknown. If his stock rises, then maybe. As of now, he is a 5th-7th in my eyes.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 23, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I See

Skelton shooting up boards with the combine and off-season. Hairline third round. Kid shows a lot of good things on tape.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Dec 23, 2009 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It's possible

I don’t think he will go in the third round, simply because he hasn’t dominated in college like he should have given the level of competition. I agree though, his skill set is quite impressive.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 23, 2009 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Like Josh Freeman?

I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Dec 23, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

like Josh Johnson?

as far as level of comp goes?

Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.

It's shocking how much can slip your perception

Even your eyes lie

by shake n bake on Dec 23, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Josh Johnson was a way better prospect

NCAA’s all-time leader in passing efficiency at 176.7, not to mention his ridiculous 43-1 TD-INT ratio his senior year. He ran a 4.44 at the combine and was the O mvp of the shrine bowl

by Brennan McCoy on Dec 25, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Jag Fan

I thought people couldn’t up their stock if they had a bad year? Now im hearing stuff about combines and off season drills. Just keeping it consistent huh?

by darwithabar on Dec 23, 2009 3:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Skelton

Didnt have a bad year, he just didn’t massacre low level teams, but neither did Joe Flacco. Yes, I said a first round selection, that a team is going to invest millions in, needs to have a good final year in college, whether it be their senior, junior, or RS sophomore season. Increasing your stock through the off-season to move from the fifth to the fourth round is possible, where teams are more willing to take a chance on a player, being their salary is only going to be about 250,000. Snead had a bad year for what was expected of him and his team. End of story. Snead won’t go in the first round.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Dec 23, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

According to you

You contradicted yourself. Bottom Line. Im just asking, You gave a semi-suitable anwser. I guess what you’re saying is this; mid round guys can move up, but guys projected in round 2 cant move up. Josh Freeman was projected to go in round 2 and look where he went. To say he has no chance at going in the 1st, ecspecially after Locker going back, is crazy.

by darwithabar on Dec 25, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay

Talk to me in April. We’ll not only see where Snead goes, but also how successful he is down the line.

Yes, I don’t see why the concept of a middle rounds guy being able to move up a few rounds, into, say round three, isn’t possible. Snead isn’t going to get himself in the first with just a good off-season. If some team is obsessed with him as much as you, they may take him in the first, but I doubt it.

If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on Dec 25, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You can predict whatever you want

I predict that the Ravens then trade that #8 overall pick to the Bears for Devin Hester.

Bears suck, Cubs suck, Bulls suck, Illini suck, who would have thought the Blackhawks would be my best shot at a title.

by tj.hendricks on Dec 23, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, if you are going to act like a total douche then I'll respond like one

That’s a stupid, not-sensible, unheard of trade proposal that would never happen. My scenario actually makes some sort of sense, while yours is just a blatant exaggeration and something that will never amount to anything. If you want to predict that, go ahead. You look like the idiot, not me.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 23, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, I was it was meant to be just a joke

obviously Hester isn’t worth that. Yes it is stupid and will never happen. I’m glad I’m an idiot to you.

You said predict what you want and I did, no need to be a “total douche”. My bad.

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by tj.hendricks on Dec 23, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry want to ask this douche question, please don't think of me as an idiot

Would you really want to pass on Rolando McClain at #8? Also IMO, Myron Lewis plays safety in NFL, maybe you see differently. After all i’m an idiot.

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by tj.hendricks on Dec 23, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he was just testy, T.J., after everybody jumped down his throat about the trade. I don’t think he’s been here long enough to know how good you are at this.

by Naptime! on Dec 24, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think of you as an idiot

I said your comment made you look like one. There’s no need to be degrading because of a trade I predicted, which probably won’t happen it’s just food for thought. The whole purpose of this site is food for thought, so why should mine be taken as a joke?

As far as passing on Rolando McClain, I would be hard-pressed to do that. He is an elite level talent and he will be the leader of a defense for the next decade permitting he stays healthy. I would love to have him on the Broncos, but I think we have multiple needs that need to be addressed early in a top-heavy draft, hence the trade down.

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 24, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think the Ravens are trading their pick..

I mean..why?

I guess you could make an argument they wanna go up and select Joe Haden….but there’s depth in this draft at CB.

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3rd down + Steve Smith = 1st Down.

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by FreeBradshaw on Dec 23, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

I’ll echo the thoughts on the Baltimore trade being pretty unlikely.

I’m surprised you didn’t give your Broncos a pass rusher at some point. Was that a consideration? Are you really comfortable with Ayers starting and Reid and Haggans as backups, or do you still have hope for Moss?

DeMaryius Thomas is probably going back to school.

I’m also surprised to see that you think pairing Moreno with another back is such a big need. I think that’s an overreaction to a few games worth of struggles running the ball. I think Moreno is having a good season and Buckhalter is a solid backup.

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by kaisertown on Dec 23, 2009 4:51 PM EST reply actions  

If the interior line

Is fixed, running the ball should be easier for Moreno and Buckhalter.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 23, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, Iupati in the first and Gerhart in the 2nd seems like overkill for a team that has been pretty decent running the ball over the course of the season.

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by kaisertown on Dec 23, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus

They already have Hillis, who runs really similar to Gerhart.

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 24, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

This is where you're wrong

Hillis isn’t being used, sadly. Many Bronco fans are distrought with this, myself included. I think not using Hillis has been one of McDaniels paramount mistakes of his rookie season. If Hillis is not going to be used, then we need to upgrade. Our depth is questionable at RB anyway. Knowshon is good, not great yet. Buckhalter is a decent backup, but he is made of glass. LaMont Jordan has got to go, and Hillis isn’t being used at all. Maybe we are saving him to be a TE if Scheffler leaves via free agency?

by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 24, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions  

If Hillis

Isn’t being used, what makes you think Gerhart is going to be used?

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by Bestjagfan on Dec 24, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You guys don't want Eric Berry if he falls or Rolando McClain?

True knowledge is knowing you know nothing!

Trade up for Berry Scot it's the move to make. "Who is Berry?"..............Here we go again!!

by rlott#42 on Dec 26, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions  

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