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SB Nation Writers Mock Draft: Round 1, Pick #17


No. 17

NEW YORK
JETS

Pick by Gang Green Nation

Knowshon Moreno
Running back

Georgia

Few hold it down like John B at Gang Green Nation. Where he finds the time for all this blogging, I'll never know.

Because of the team's needs, I will need to explain the reasoning behind not picking certain players as much as I need to explain my pick. The Jets have an obvious need at quarterback. Many pundits say, "Rex Ryan saw what drafting a rookie quarterback can do for a team with the Ravens in 2008." This is true, but he also saw how picking the wrong guy can set a franchise back with Kyle Boller. Picking just any signal caller early is not automatically a magical fix.

There are two remaining quarterbacks with a first round grade, Mark Sanchez and Josh Freeman. They are both very talented and could one day grow into excellent NFL quarterbacks. Both, however, have red flags. Sanchez made pro throws with pinpoint accuracy in the Rose Bowl, torching an excellent Penn State defense. However, he has little game experience, having made only 16 starts in college and was relatively inconsistent. The learning curve will be steeper for him than for other signal callers because of this lack of reps at game speed. Freeman has an above average arm, size, and athletic ability. However, his accuracy and mechanics are suspect. He was mistake-prone as well at K-State. Freeman is a project. Do I think both players could become good one day? Yes. Would I bet the next four to five years of my franchise on it? No, both have too much developing to do.

The Jets have three young quarterbacks, all of whom have displayed promise to varying degrees. Before I roll the dice on a signal caller, I want to make sure I do not already have an answer in place. All I need is to hit one in three among Kellen Clemens, Brett Ratliff, and Erik Ainge. If I miss on all three, I can look to address the position next year. If I take Sanchez or Freeman, I am putting all of my eggs into that basket and will lose four to five years with a miss.

With this in mind, I am taking the local Jersey kid, who became a star at the University of Georgia. Since the Jets are returning the AFC’s leading rusher, Thomas Jones, and Leon Washington, who averaged 5.8 per carry a year ago, this might seem unnecessary. The reality is Jones will be 31 at the start of the 2009 season. He is a senior citizen in terms of running back age. It could all go south for him at any moment. He is also reportedly unhappy with his contract. Since Drew Rosenhaus is his agent, there is no telling how ugly this could get. When all of this is coupled with the reality that cutting Thomas next offseason will clear out about $6 million in cap room, this is probably his last season in green and white. A succession plan needs to be in place sooner rather than later.

 

Star-divide

Moreno is the total package. The Georgia product runs with authority between the tackles and has the agility to run effectively outside. He couples above average burst and strength with elite vision and cutbackability (I’m making up words like Mel Kiper now). His receiving and blocking skills will make him an every down back in the pros. His timed 40 was in the 4.6 range, which is below average and raised red flags for some. I would only worry about this if Roger Goodell adds a track and field component to every football game. Moreno ran for 5.5 yards per rush in his career while playing against the fastest defenses in the country in the SEC.

There are two possibilities here. If Jones declines or forces his way out, the Jets will have a natural replacement in place. If Jones continues to be a productive runner, the Jets will couple their elite run blocking line with a three headed monster at running back that can pound on and wear down defenses for four quarters. Moreno will have a mentor with a similar running style in T.J.

The 2009 Jets will be a team carried by ball control and defense. Instead of addressing a weakness at receiver, I am making this strength, which will be essential to my success this season, stronger. I am not going to invest big in a receiver when my unsettled quarterback situation could limit his effectiveness. The constant eight man fronts my elite running back rotation will force will do plenty to open things up for my passing game.

MTD thoughts: How can I argue with such sound reasoning? Easy. The Jets need to fill holes, not add depth in the first round. John B probably won't like it, but if the Jets want one of those quarterbacks to succeed, a wide receiver is a huge need. With Ryan as the new coach, I also wouldn't be surprised to see a rush linebacker if he doesn't believe in either Vernon Gholston or Bryan Thomas. Moreno is a fantastic value here, but not necessarily a pick the Jets need to make.

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It's always hard to argue with taking the best player available

But I’m not convinced spending a first round pick on a running back is ever that good of an idea. Seems like you can always find a solid RB later in the draft.

Of course, I’m not a huge fan of taking WR’s in the 1st round either due to the very high bust rate, and QBs are always a tricky endeavor.

It’s an interesting pick overall, but I kind of like it.

by math_geek on Mar 30, 2009 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

First round backs

Of the top 10 rushers in football last year, 6 were first round picks. I dunno, it doesn’t seem like that bad of an idea to grab a back early.

by JasonB on Mar 30, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, although interestingly Steve Slaton and Matt Forte were the two leading rookie rushers, and they were neither picked in the 1st round.

Using Football Outdiers DYAR instead, we get DeAngelo Williams, Brandon Jacobs, Clinton Portis, Derrick Ward, Thomas Jones, Michael Turner, Chris Johnson, Sammy Morris and LeRon McClain. Of those, only Willaims, Portis, Jones, and Johnson are 1st round picks.

It’s an interesting situation because RBs are pretty safe bets to do well in the first round, and yet, you can find good RBs later. There is just an abundance of good RBs.

A great RB, however, is something else entirely. Certainly Adrian Peterson adds a lot of value to the Vikings.

by math_geek on Mar 30, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DVOA hates Peterson compared to public opinion

because he’s fumbley (and boom or bust, but fumbley is easier to get people to understand and buy into)

I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
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by shake n bake on Mar 30, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

both are fine reasons to dislike him, and I recognize the fumbles, but I think boom or bust can be improperly measured. If the Vikings had a passing game, Adrian Peterson would be much better at getting yards in low outcomes.

I try to avoid disagreeing with FO as much as possible, but I make an exception in this case

by math_geek on Mar 30, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's the difference between measuring production and measuring skill

Peterson wasn’t as productive as you would expect from his raw numbers because he was boom or bust. His production wasn’t a totally accurate representation of his skill because he didn’t have a passing game supporting him.

I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter

by shake n bake on Mar 30, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I can definitely agree with that

by math_geek on Mar 30, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Football Outsiders

They came up with a speed factor formula which I shamelessly stole for a post today. Knowshon comes up short on their metric.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 30, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's a bad class overall in speed scores

Andre Brown (my favorite back in the class for where he’s likely available) is one of the only backs that comes out well.

I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter

by shake n bake on Mar 30, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yucky speed score… I try to pretend it isn’t there because I really like Ray Rice and want him to be successful, but his speed score was horrible.

by math_geek on Mar 30, 2009 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want it to be wrong even more

Because Mike Hart could be who Indy is counting on to back up Addai, with an awful speed score AND coming off an ACL tear.

I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter

by shake n bake on Mar 30, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, look at it this way, without Rice we have exactly Willis McGahee for all our non-power running needs

by math_geek on Mar 30, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right

I’m so hoping the Chargers stay away from the rb with the first rounder. A bust would be a killer.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Mar 30, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sold Moreno is a future star so it's a good pick

even if they have a starting RB and AFC leading rusher.

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by Jaxon on Mar 30, 2009 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan accurately hits on the holes on the roster. I’m especially impressed with him listing rush linebacker since it’s a big weakness, and none of the MSM Draft “gurus” seem to have picked up on it. It just shows the kind of quality you get here at SB Nation.

With that said, I think the biggest mistake a team can make is to identify one position and decide to take a player from that position come hell or high water. It’s always a mistake in the long run. Two years ago the Cardinals filled a hole at tackle by taking Levi Brown, who is a really nice player, but they passed on Adrian Peterson. I bet they wish they have that pick back. On the other side, the Bills got killed for taking Willis McGahee back in 2003 because they already had a running back, Travis Henry. It was the right move in hindsight.

I’m not in love with Maclin or Harvin. To me, they were guys who dominated based on their athletic ability but never really learned how to play the position. Both need to learn how to run pro routes. They might end up being good, but there’s just as good of a chance they’ll end up in the large graveyard of fast first round receivers who fizzled in the NFL. I took the guy I felt was more of a sure thing to play at a high level for the next decade. I considered Sintim at OLB, but ultimately I thought Moreno was a better player, which Dan’s list also seems to indicate.

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by John B on Mar 30, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Disagree on Buffalo

Buffalo taking McGahee was (and always will be) a terrible move for Buffalo. This is not just because they had Henry, but because McGahee stinks! A running back who can’t block and is so stupid that he thought buffalo, NY was near New York City is NOT the kind of person you want to waste a first round pick on.

Regarding your pick, I think I have to side with Dan on this. The Jets have glaring needs, and RB is not one of them. Drafting for need is fine as long as you don’t reach too far for that need. And in order to win in this league, a team must have a premiere QB. Not a “good” one. Not an “ok” one. A great one. No one on the Jets roster fills that.

Sanchez is a first round QB that fell in the Jets lap, and you passed on him. Big mistake, imo.

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by BigBlueShoe on Mar 30, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree you need a great quarterback to win in this league. I’m not not sold that Sanchez is that guy. If I was, I wouldn’t have hesitated to pull the trigger.

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by John B on Mar 30, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would it be safe to say that if this were the real draft

and Sanchez was not drafted, that ESPN would show the smattering of boos from Jets fans for passing one a franchise QB?

Personally, I like Sanchez, though he would probably have to sit for a season, and I’m not sure that would be wise to just start Kellen Clemens for a year and then start Sanchez the next year. Sanchez is a risky pick, but all QB picks are risky, the reason they’re taken so high is that the reward of a successful QB is so high. A great QB can mean a chance at the playoffs every year, something no other position provides.

by LantermanC on Mar 30, 2009 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I guess I can see why you wouldn’t be high on McGahee. You didn’t see him gash your defense twice a year. Man, that guy owned the Jets.

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by John B on Mar 30, 2009 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. I hate McGahee

but you are just as ignorant as he is….

Buffalo taking McGahee was (and always will be) a terrible move for Buffalo. so stupid that he thought buffalo, NY was near New York City

He made the Bills a better team and he made the Ravens a better team. He averaged 1100+ yards a season as a Bill. Nobody had done that since Thurman Thomas. Plus he had 13 TDs in his first year playing in Buffalo. He was a great player in Buffalo, if not a diva and an idiot as far as dealing with the fans.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

How many playoff games did he help Buffalo win? This past year, it was more McClain and Rice than McGahee.

The dude is consistently referred to as the most over-rated RB in football. He stinks. Get over it.

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by BigBlueShoe on Mar 31, 2009 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't the reason we didn't make the playoffs.

Maybe on Stampede Blue he’s the most overrated RB. I don’t generally like to assign titles like that since overrated happens in people’s minds in the first place. You can look at his stats and see that he has been productive. I’m not calling him a top five or top ten back so how can I possibly be overrating him? I just said he was a great player, specifically when he was on the Bills. He just couldn’t shut his mouth.

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by MattRichWarren on Mar 31, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why John, I’ve only got that knowledge about the rush linebacker from following your stuff. ;) A guy like Larry English would fit well in New York, but Ryan just might not view that as a huge need. I don’t know for sure.

I understand completely why there is some hesitation on Maclin and Harvin. I have a lot of that feeling with Harvin, but not so much with Maclin. I think Davone Bess, who came from the system, showed you can succeed coming from the spread.

And I get your reasoning on the pick. Moreno is going to be a very good player and the Jets wouldn’t be worse off for having him. I just think with a first-round pick, if your’e not a playoff team you need someone who can make an immediate impact.

by Mocking Dan on Mar 30, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, Dan. Intelligent people can disagree :-)

Just wanted to try and add to the discussion by shedding a little more light behind my thought process.

The thought of a guy like English potentially being there in round 2 defintely played a part in my thinking passing on Sintim.

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by John B on Mar 30, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In John's defense...

I can totally see where you’d go best player available here. Knowshon’s clearly a safer bet than Sanchez and the return is much better short-term than most WR’s. Also, if the Jets are going with Kellen Clemens, the additional running back fits perfectly into a ball-control/Bart Scott punch them in the mouth game plan.

I just find it hard to say that Knowshon’s a bad pick, damn the circumstances/needs. The Jets have other options to fill those needs (other draft picks, free agency, etc).

by Danno11 on Mar 30, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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