2009 NFL Draft Day One- Open Thread #2
by Brad Wells on Apr 25, 2009 3:53 PM EDT
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It's finally starting, and SB Nation writers John Bena and JasonB are there at Radio City Music Hall live-blogging the draft. Look for their updates on possible trades and other on-the-floor information in the comments.
This is your open thread. We'll update as new info rolls in.
[UPDATE]: From JasonB:
Jason Smith is on his phone and has a big old smile on his face... So I guess the Sanchez thing was BS.
[UPDATE]: As you can see, JasonB's info was dead on. Rams take Jason Smith, OT.
[UPDATE 4:18PM]: Big but odd rumor from JasonB:
Hearing some crazy rumors about the Eagles sending #21 and Shawn Andrews to Cleveland for the Browns #5 overall and Braylon Edwards. Seems very farfetched to me.
[UPDATE 4:39PM]: Looks like the Jets have traded up and are now on the clock at #5. Mark Sanchez is on his cell phone, smiling. Looks like Sanchez to the Jets.
[UPDATE 4:50PM]: From JasonB regarding Sanchez trade:
The press around us where surprised at the deal. The initial reaction was that the Jets gave up a lot.
[UPDATE 4:59PM]: When the Raiders bypassed WR Michael Crabtree for WR Darius Heyward-Bey, JasonB saw this from press nearby:
There were a number of laughs after that pick amongst the press.
[UPDATE 5:27PM]: From JasonB who was at Eugene Monroe press conference:
I just got back from the Eugene Monroe press conference and he was asked if he was surprised that Jacksonville took him.
He said, "Yeah, the last time I talked the Jaguars was pro day. I had no idea they wanted me."
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take him to
trade him later?
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I guess trade
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Doesn't seem that way
The risk is too high for the Rams, with Bulger and Boller under contract. It looks like the Redskins and Jets are making their offers. Too many rumors coming from the Rams’ war room; can’t verify what the offers are. Supposedly, the Bucs are in the mix too.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Apr 25, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i know i hate that
i guess we’ll find out shortly
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Eagles update
Just got a tip that the Eagles may have turned their attention from Boldin to Braylon Edwards…
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Is that your source, or did Jason or John say that?
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
thats a heck of a drop off
in talent from Boldin to Edwards
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Here we go
It’s coming…
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Update from JasonB
Jason Smith is on his phone and has a big old smile on his face… So I guess the Sanchez thing was BS.
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They boo Stafford
Hilarious.
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More guaranteed money than Albert Haynesworth?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
More guaranteed money
than Jesus.
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That makes sense.
Especially with PFT’s report that Jesus’ people are planning on filing grievance with NFLPA.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
overpaid would have been a better choice
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by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Peyton Manning
He just texted Stafford to wish him well.
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i thought he would
write him one of his patented letters
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Rumors are saying
yes.
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It's too bad you can't watch NFL Network
Then you don’t have to deal with Keyshawn or Berman.
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last i heard it was dead
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Same
I would love to give up our 2nd and heap then draft pettigrew in the 1st
I can dream, right?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
not a bad dream
at all… Boldin is sick
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Bucs gonna take my UMD guy, hey-bey?
I had economics with him last semester
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I heard Philly's in on Boldin
time shall tell
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez is on his celly
smiling like a pig in shit
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KC in the clock?
KC is now on the clock. Possible trade…
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NM
Pick is in: Jason Smith, OT.
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STL got a solid O-Line now
My former Ravens, Jason Brown
Now Jason Smith
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
You know what Mel Kiper needs?
A gray streak on the side of his head. That would really make his hairdo untoppable.
Mel Kiper dresses up at dracula every year for halloween
Accept he just wears his everyday clothes
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Big crazy rumor from JasonB
Hearing some crazy rumors about the Eagles sending #21 and Shawn Andrews to Cleveland for the BRowns #5 overall and Braylon Edwards. Seems very farfetched to me.
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wow
that does not make much sense. wouldnt cleveland be getting the worse deal?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
That’d be a complete loss in my book.
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Kiper talks crap about picking Jason Smith
The Rams totally needed to spend almost $40 million on another quarterback. You think there’s a brain under that coif?
How did he just jump up here so quickly?
Last week he wasnt even projected top 12
I think curry is a way better pick here
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
The No Fun League
made Aaron Curry take his Wake Forest (WF) pen off his jacket, really? Come on
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Tyson Jackson
Look like talk was legit.
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Weird
Pioli looking for the next Richard Seymour? Still too high
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I don't understand this pick
At all. Maybe Jackson will be a nice fit, but I thought Curry was the easy selection here.
Jackson
He is the best 5 tech DT in the draft. To play 3-4 hybrid effectively, you must have a quality DT. LBers are nothing without DTs.
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I love Aaron Curry's reactions so far
He was surprised and then applauded at #2, here he was just shocked. If he’s passed over again, I would love to see the reaction.
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So where does this leave Curry?
Cleveland? Cinci?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
If he is on the board when we pick and we pass him up, we’ll (Cleveland fans) be stunned and very displeased.
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he goes to Seattle here at 4
Right scheme fit, and they have liked him all along.
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Cincy is high on him.
Some say that he’s the first on their board. So yea, he likely won’t get past the sixth pick.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
What do the Chiefs do with Dorsey now?
Will they look to trade him now, since he doesn’t quite fit what they are playing now?
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Wow, just realize that 2/3 the Chiefs D-Line is LSU guys
lol
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
That's 2 Top 5 draft picks in a row on the Defensive Line
They better hope it works out for them.
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Curry
Nice pickup by Seattle.
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Him and Lofa together will be solid
Really glad they got him
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
so glad we play
them next season
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Bummed about Curry being gone…I’m kinda lost on what to expect from Cleveland now. Will my SB Nation mock pick of Orakpo stick?
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Pestering Ravens fans can never leave us alone, eh? ;)
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by Chris Pokorny on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Not until you guys unban me from your site
So i can pester more.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
thats what i was thinking
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Curry is a good pick
So how far will Crabtree last?
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Don't make fun of the Bengals
If they select Andre Smith. :)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:34 PM EDT reply actions
Even if Monroe is there?
Which he should be, as I can see the Browns taking him.
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Yea.
Bengals are reportedly higher on Smith than Monroe.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
No promises
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You have the picture ready?
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I do now
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
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by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Now
Now it starts getting really interesting.
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I think now
Cleveland is trade chatting with several teams.
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lol
If Cleveless takes Sanchez. They are forever dumb
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Thanks Dave, now I can't get that little diddy out of my head!!
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I hear Cleveless is making a run at Colt McCoy
Wait, what?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
NFL Network says something is brewing trade-wise here, per one of my readers.
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Jets
They just traded with Browns. Jets on clock…
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It appears that it's Sanchez to the Jets!
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the fans are going bat shit crazy
will they actually applaud this pick?
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Sort of? Most Jets fans were loving it; but it seemed like everyone else booed
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by John Fischer on Apr 25, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
They are gonna be contenders now
1/4 of the ravens defense, rex ryan, now marky mark
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
just a little
some fans love him, the majority don’t ha!
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This is a great deal for the Browns
They couldn’t have liked anyone available at five and need as many quality players as possible.
Wait, 3 players, the first round AND the second round?
Oh, Sanchez, no pressure!
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Sweet mother of... Jets fans CHEERING???
When did Jets fans ever cheer a first round pick? I’ve always heard them Boooo.
Dang. This is a huge trade. Do teams now trade up into the 12-18 range to snag Freeman?
hopefully
hopefully not the bucs
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damn right!
No QBs for Bucs! We need WR and DT!
I’m just wondering if anyone will trade with the Bucs for their 19th spot for Freeman, and the Bucs get a solid DE/DT with a later first rounder pick?
One of those moments that give you chills here as the Jets fan absolutely erupt at the announcement that they’ve selected USC QB Mark Sanchez.A brief chant of “Dirty Sanchez” breaks out.
not really
did the Browns really need another QB in Ratliff
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haha they gave up nothing
Elam, Coleman, Ratliff= expendable…holes they leave can be filled later in the draft and FA…I was worried about giving up next year’s 1 and more future picks…the 2nd rounder didnt look like it would yield the players they targeted for that selection…thanks Mangini for finally doing us a solid..just dont rush Sanchez under center..he still needs development
Jets and Browns trade
3 players, including QB Kellen Clemons and mutiple picks.
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Right, Raitliff.
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The Jets just threw away half their picks and a quarter of their team
Sanchez better roll out some miracles early, or Jets fans are going to give him hell.
The press around us where surprised at the deal. The initial reaction was that the Jets gave up a lot.
Too little too late for Cincy?
They needed a real left tackle for years. He’s not going to have a huge impact on Cincinnati’s win/loss record.
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I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
Thanks!
I just silenced my brother and his friend with that. That’s a powerful image of things you may not want.
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by John Fischer on Apr 25, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I just projectile vomited like in The Exorcist
Next step: head rotating and crawling on the ceiling.
That's how an offensive linemen is supposed to look!!!
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He has to be embarassed by that picture
Why didn’t someone say “Keep the shirt on big guy”
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You called the pick Kirkendall
http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2009/3/26/810795/sb-nation-writers-mock-dra
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And y'all called me crazy. ;-)
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Raiders need Crabtree here
That offense would be nasty one day!
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
or they could do the smart thing and take Monroe
but I’d bet on Crabtree or Maclin
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
reach of the day
more than likely
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haha
I just posted that word for word on another site
I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter
by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
Hwyward-Bey over Crabtree. What a bunch of idiots.
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Somewhere in Central NJ...
…I am laughing my head off. Raiders took this guy way, way, way, way, too early.
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Just because one guy is a few tenths of a second faster
mind boggling
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Moron
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sweet jebus
i dont know whats worse…
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Darth Vader: "I will do your bidding my master.
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
there's a lot
of m&m remnants on the desk of many of the NFL War Rooms…
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Still on the board
Amazing that Crabtree and Monroe are still on the board.
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surely the Jags take Crabs
right?
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If not, and I'm the Giants/Eagles, I do whatever to trade up to #10.
"I dunno. I never smoked any Astroturf"
-Tug McGraw
Possibly
Or maybe Monroe. Raji is still there too.
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I think Monroe will prove to be the best OT in this draft
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Monroe
He’s on his phone, smiling.
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is it wrong to say Crabtree is
going to get crabby here shortly? can i still continue to post in here?
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I think that's a great pick for Jax
Their line was terrible last year, and Monroe is a fantastic tackle.
Come on you Giants
This is a once-in-a-lifetime chance, TRADE UP FOR THE CRABTREE (a.k.a. The Crustacean Fir)
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Raji
Packers taking Raji.
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Its interesting
Raji does not fit a 3-4 defense.
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I guess they’ll make him learn?
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by John Fischer on Apr 25, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Physically
He doesnt fit,
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Not a 5 tech tackle
Not a good NT. Is more of a penetrating DT, not a NT in 3-4.
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Yeah, I would have thought they'd pick Brian Orakpo. He's tailor made for that new defense, IMO.
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Hey guys. New here, but not to SBN.
Ben Francisco: An Outfielder only on baseball cards and roster sheets.
WELCOME!
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considering the scheme
but at least they are competent in San Fran
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Orakpo to San Fran
Him and Willis together would be insane
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Posted a poll
On Heyward-Bey pick.
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WhoSe on the phone risht now?
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
its Crabtree
"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman
he's smiling
do you think Singletary was warning him not to embarrass the franchise?
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Yeah, who's going to get him the ball in '09?
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Instead of having Berman tip the picks
ESPN keeps going to the homes of players to tip the picks. I don’t like that at all. Doing that and making the first round 10 minute picks really takes out some drama of the draft.
by Dan Kadar on Apr 25, 2009 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Maybin
Looking like Maybin.
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3 of 11, thats not too good
but I bet 3 years from now our mock looks better than the actual
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Given Orakpo is there
I would have said he’s a better pick. But Buffalo has really liked Maybin all along. That’s something the guys at Buffalo Rumblings have had for a really long time.
Wow
A friggin RB?
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No, they didnt
They plug in RBs left and right. They needed DEFENSE.
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Not the same scheme anymore
They’ve got basically nobody starting-caliber. I think they should’ve gone defense, too, but this was a legitimate need.
Whoa, really?
I mean, I love Moreno. But at #12?
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another bad move...
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Redskins
That was a good pick. Orakpo was solid. Denver and Oakland’s picks are the worst so far.
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Oakland's is in it's own class though
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by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree on Moreno
He’s going to be a good one
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Denver
They have no defense and now no QB. So, they use their #12 pick… on a RB? This with Cushing, Jenkins, and other defensive players on the board. Awful pick.
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And Orakpo was still there too at that point!
Not good.
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Save me a slice
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Anyone surprised
To see there has only been one trade thus far? Is this a byproduct of having less time to make picks?
Not wanting to give last year's champions higher picks?
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Question
Could it an issue of there not being “that guy” for most teams? And does it seem that there’s more trades outside the first two rounds?
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by Josh Kirkendall on Apr 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It could also be a situation of this being an average draft. Heck, quality player wise, what’s the difference between pick three and pick 15 in this draft?
Jackson moved pretty fluidly from 12-18 to #3
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by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Cushing over Matthews
Interesting.
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The Texans fans HATE the Cushing pick
http://www.battleredblog.com/2009/4/25/853320/open-thread-part-deux-2009-nfl#14744645
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Denver now needs to trade for Peppers
- and next years #1. Why not? Or their #2 now
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Enjoy: http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2009/4/25/853398/2009-nfl-draft-day-one-open-thread
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