2009 NFL Draft Day One- Open Thread #4

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:33 PM EDT Comment 122 comments

So far, the biggest upset picks have come from the AFC West. KC took Tyson Jackson at #3. Oakland stunned the draft room so far by bypassing Michael Crabtree and taking Darrius Heyward-Bey. Denver bypassed several defensive players and took RB Knowshon Moreno.

The Jets traded up with the Browns and took QB Mark Sanchez. The Browns traded all the way down to 21 just to take center Alex Mack.

Jason B and John Bena are coming live from Radio City Music Hall and we'll put up any hot news items they can give us.

Follow the second round picks on CBSSportsline.com

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What was the biggest surprise of Round 1 of the NFL Draft?

Oakland picking Darrius Heyward-Bey at pick 7

154 votes

The Browns trading several times to take a center

27 votes

The drop of Rey Maualuga and Everette Brown

58 votes

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Stupid

SteelerS

"Chemistry is a class you take in high school or college, where you figure out two plus two is 10, or something."
- Dennis Rodman

by Shifty1 on Apr 25, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

A reach to start round 2

What is Detroit doing? They don’t take a left tackle or a middle linebacker.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Patriots are taking Patrick Chung

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Your thoughts? I like him a lot.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought we could've gotten him lower, but Belichick's smarter than me

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was expecting a run on safeties, but not at the top of round 2

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Make sure to take the new poll!

It is now in the body of the thread.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thoughts from Aaron Maybin

From Jason B

Just very overwhelmed. I’m very happy to just be able to have a chance to play in such a great city for such an amazing franchise. It’s a great opportunity for me and I’m coming into a situation where I’m going to get a chance to play with some Penn State guys out there. They’ve got Paul Posluszny and Bryan Scott on the team right now. I’m really anxious to just get out there and just to start putting in work, just to start building the foundation out there for myself.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Weird ad

Here in Ohio, one of the local ads is for some Ohio Fantasy Football site. Very weird considering it’s April. I wonder how much money they threw at these ads?

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I will still pee my pants

if the Browns take Maualuga.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sadly, my pants are safe. Browns take Brian Robiskie. I want to puke and not just because I ate too much pizza.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s probably best people aren’t seeing the texts that are flying on my phone. They are no appropriate at all.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like Robiskie a lot

I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter

by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I do too but not when the Browns need a middle linebacker so bad and I like Rey Maualuga so much.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why the Browns hire Mangidiot?

Doesnt he run the same system as Romo?

by Civardi on Apr 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I have no idea. I really got excited going into the picks and have been completely underwhelmed.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bengals steal Maualuga

Great pick for Cincinnati. They get the face of their defense.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

DAM

Why couldnt the Jets trade back up and draft him!

by Civardi on Apr 25, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Now...

where does Everette Brown go? He has to be far and away the best player available on draftniks draft boards.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Is he the fastest player left?

If so, he’ll go to the Raiders here…

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by mgrex03 on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Watch it be some random cornerback.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eben Britton goes to Jacksonville

Good pick for the Jaguars who need a left tackle.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Toot many tackles

JAX now has Britton, Monroe, Pashos, and Tra Thomas for 2 tackle spots. That’s a lot tied up

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

D'oh!

Forgot about them taking Monroe. I guess Britton can play guard?

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I guess...

What’s that old saying? You can never had too many good OLs?

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nah

Thill switch one or two of them to guard, and there offensive line will be set for years to come

by Civardi on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ESPN is doing a horrible job

announcing the trades. We still don’t even know what Cleveland got for moving from 19 to 21

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

6th Rounder

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by mgrex03 on Apr 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see now

Must have been announced when I was on the can.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Go On NFL.COM

And watch the draft there instead

by Civardi on Apr 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

NFL network...

is running the show. The picks wait on that coverage.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pats

Did I mention how much I hate the Pats…

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pats move from 47th to 40th

Gave up 4th and a 6th, along with #47

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by mgrex03 on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Looks like DL Ron Brace is the pick

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Where does he play in New England?

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Inside...

Depth for now…takes over for Wilfork in time.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He'll make a good backup for Wilfork

But word is the Pats will work hard to retain Wilfork. IMO, they’d be stupid to let Vince go.

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

does Wilfork's contract come up soon?

I thought I heard that

by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Up at the end of '09, but I'd be shocked if they let him go

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brace is a tough kid

But I’m not sure where he fits on this team right now. MaPatsFan, care to enlighten?

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The only speculation I have...

…is that they’re preparing for the possibility of Richard Seymour leaving when his contract is up in ’09

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But it might be odd to slide him over to DE

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At 330 pounds

I’m not sure how quick he’s going to be.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mobility

Especially considering how often NE likes to move people around on the outside.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right, more of an NT most likely

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Orakpo from the draft

From the Jason B via Orakpo’s presser:

(Washington’s linebackers coach) really likes me, sees me as a SAM back first and second and then it’s time to get after it, third and long or whatever the situation is. Get down in the stance and rush the pass and do what I do best. That’s the thing about me, I bring a lot of versatility to the table.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

More from Orakpo

From John Bena. This on playing next to Albert Haynesworth:

I am ecstatic. Having one of the best defensive tackles in the game right now will make my job easier, I’ll tell you that much. That is what you need, that force up the middle, so it will be great.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wher does...

Everett Brown fall to now??

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At this point, I have no idea at all.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's on the phone now

by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, nevermind!

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

DB Darius Butler to Patriots

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sorry, CB Darius Butler

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by MaPatsFan on Apr 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Jairus Byrd to Buffalo. Kind of a reach there.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Brown to Car

Peppers on the way out now for sure?

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No, I don’t think this indicates that for sure. Brown will play OLB if they go through with the 3-4 switch.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Miami takes Pat White

OK….

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mike Mayock...

wants to marry the guy I think.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They did??

Did they take him as a QB or as a WR?
Because if they took him for WR then it’s another frakkin “Scouts think they know everything” decision because last time I checked Pat White WAS F-CKING GOOD as a QB. I would have taken him for QB before taking Freeman.

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did Keyshawn on ESPN just say they could play Pat White as a CORNERBACK???

jaw droppage.

THIS IS INSANE. What the hell are they serving people up there, Wavy Gravy’s awesome homemade brownies??

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

White is a QB

He threw REALLY well at the combine. Could be be Vick without the off field issues?

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Poll suggestion

Here’s an idea for a poll:

“Which team has had the biggest WTF draft today?”
Raiders
Browns
Chargers
Denver
Bucs

I vote Chargers, surprisingly enough. They took English? Seriously???
Other than that I encourage everyone to vote the Bucs for WTF draft. They needed DT and WR and they still traded up for a QB that honestly no other team was going to waste a First Rounder on.

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would rank them...

Bucs, Raiders, Chargers, Broncos, Browns.

I really like what the Browns did. They only had 5 picks coming in and needed WAY more than 5 guys. That’s always a favorite strategy of mine.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Houston keeps improving pass rush

taking Connor Barwin. That’s kind of a surprise. They really need a safety.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Bookend

with Super Mario…They’ve said for awhile that they wanted one of those.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They signed Antonio Smith though.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Classic Raiders pick!

They go with Ohio safety Mike Mitchell. I laugh out loud.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

let me guess

fastest 40 from a safety?

by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think so

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Raiders taking Mitchell was so out there...

…that the CBS Draft tracker has left Oakland’s pick vacant, as they don’t have a player bio to link to!

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Draft round grade from Mayock...

7th round…

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not on ESPN's top 10 safeties available

by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OHIO UNIVERSITY ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE DRAFT

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by mittens on Apr 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My 10 best remaining

18. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech, 6’7, 258
21. LeSean McCoy, RB, Pittsburgh, 5’11, 210
24. Sean Smith, CB, Utah, 6’3, 210
25. Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma, 6’8, 338
26. Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State, 6’6, 260
29. Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma, 6’5, 335
31. William Moore, FS, Missouri, 6’1, 226
33. Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa, 5’11, 235
34. Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri, 6’6, 252
40. D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt, 5’10, 184

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Pettigrew

is gone

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Gah

That’s right. That’s how bad of a pick that was.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boom goes my head

I thought Clint Sintim might actually make it to us. Sadness ensues.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

do we have

a widget that tracks all of the picks for us from the 2nd round on?

Buc 'Em Your SBNation Tampa Bay Bucs Blog where Dull Boys are not allowed!!

by JScott on Apr 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The NFL.com one only had first round, which is dumb.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

right

the Bucs don’t even have a 2nd round pick but for sanity’s sake i would hate to manually update… that appears to be the route though

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by JScott on Apr 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

CBS sportsline has one

Dunno if you can link to it, they have a drafttracker covering all rounds

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just stuck a link to this one in the top of the thread.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good pick for Seattle

taking Max Unger. He fits their scheme perfectly. Darcel McBath to Denver the pick before was kind of a stretch.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Unger will be good

I was hoping he’d fall a few more. Talk about versitility!

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Singeltary on Crabtree

From Jason B at the draft:

We had no idea he would be there at #10. It was one of the last scenarios that we thought we’d end up with. He’s been one of the best guys the past couple years in college football as a WR. So, very excited to have a playmaker on the offensive side of the ball.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brian Billick...

just called the Browns an expansion team.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

they are

um, they started in 1999. They’re still 10 years in, I know, but they’ve been run like an expansion team that whole time…

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They are truly pathetic.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cowboys

They have to be not happy that Chung and Delmas are gone.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cowboys get passed!

Oh man, that is embarrassing.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Still not...

as bad as MIN when that happened a few years back. Didn’t they get passed twice?

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They did, but it worked out fine. They got Kevin Williams.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

From John Bena

Live from NYC

Cowboys fans in the building ARE NOT HAPPY

Never mind…It was annouced they passed their pick, but they traded it to Buffalo

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

David Veikune?

Ugh. Reach, colossal reach.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Looked good...

from the combine footage…didn’t seem like he would be on any radar at this point.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Philly gets its running back

Great pick by the Eagles. That’s how you draft.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Better fit

than any of the other guys that they could have taken. Looks like a Westbrook Jr.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Woohoo!

Loving the William Moore pick for the Falcons.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 25, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Good draft for Atlanta.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

I’m happy with it.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 25, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trade!

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

guru says it's indy

by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good pick for Indianapolis

They clearly need a good defensive tackle. To me, Moala is the best one left.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I really like Indianapolis’ draft so far. I’m sure Colts fans wanted a wide receiver, but this is a solid first day for them.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

Works well for system…IND can get the consistency out of him that he lacked last year.

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would have liked to keep the 5th and just wait til 61

for Moala, Gilbert, Beatty, Meredith or D.J Moore

by shake n bake on Apr 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have my doubts about Paul Kruger

moving to a 3-4 outside linebacker spot. Until I see the Ravens take him. I feel the same way about Pittsburgh. If they’re taking a college end, you know they’re going to do well at 3-4 outside linebacker.

Good draft thus far for the Ravens after taking Michael Oher.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just to let you know how the Bucs fans are responding to the draft

The Tampa Trib’s blog had to close down the thread they were running on the Freeman pick. Apparently the fan response was less than enthused.

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That’s awesome!

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tough crowd...

there in TB

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

not really

It’s sad is what it is. Fans live for Draft Day because they hope to see their team improve, and then they watch to see their team TRADE UP two measly spots to grab a QB they could have TRADED DOWN 8-14 spots to get, and not only that but a QB who’s rated 50th best overall (they could have taken Freeman in the Second if they still had a pick then), all the while looking at a defense that collapsed in one of the worst Decembers the team ever had (and when you consider the Bucs history esp. 1983-1996, that’s a huge lot of suck to contend with) leaving said fans wondering if anything is gonna be done to fix a D-line and LB corps that’s understaffed with rosters filled with question marks.

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sebastian Vollmer?

Oh man.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Everette Brown

worth a first rounder next year???

by emiller17 on Apr 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Given that Carolina has a very good front office, I’ll say yes. Pricey, but Brown is clearly very talented.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris on Josh Freeman

From Jason B live from Radio City Music Hall

You know, I made this statement the other day. If I had the Detroit Lions pick at No. 1, I might have taken Josh Freeman. I might have been fighting for him. Our owner is very excited, they haven’t had an opportunity to be this excited for 15 years and they are really pumped up. They’ve got a chance for a franchise quarterback, man. That’s our quarterback, to quote T.O.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Man oh man. The fans might not like Morris after today.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 25, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

O RLY

When the coach comes out and says “Oh if we had the first overall pick we’d still take this guy,” it’s a clear red flag that he’s lying out of his… ahem, excuse me.

I mean, seriously, every draft observer knows damn well Stafford is more NFL ready and more deserving of a Top 10 pick than Freeman. Who is Morris kidding?

And he’s QUOTING T.O. to praise a QB? Isn’t that like quoting Karl Marx to praise JP Morgan?

by witty on Apr 25, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs