A look back at Todd McShay's first 2009 mock, and what it means for MtD

by Mocking Dan on Apr 30, 2009 10:41 AM EDT in Mock Draft Comment 30 comments

This is Todd McShay's first mock for 2009. It came out shortly after the 2008 NFL Draft.

What he got right: Kansas City's drafting position, Andre Smith's draft position, Knowshon Moreno being the first running back taken.

What he got wrong: Just about everything else. Yikes. Just look at this thing:

1. Atlanta Falcons — Fili Moala, DT, USC

2. Detroit Lions — Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech

3. Kansas City Chiefs — Matt Stafford, QB, Georgia

4. Miami Dolphins — Al Woods, DT, LSU

5. Cincinnati Bengals — Sen’Derrick Marks, DT, Auburn

6. Oakland Raiders — Andre Smith, OT, Alabama

7. Chicago Bears — Tim Tebow, QB, Florida

8. San Francisco 49ers — Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi

9. St. Louis Rams — Rey Maualuga, ILB, USC

10. New York Jets — Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia

How this relates to Mocking the Draft: You may think it's silly to put out a 2010 mock draft this time of year. You'd be right. However, we're going to do it anyway. This time next week, look for a one-round mock.

The problem in doing this comes in the draft order. Keep it how it was this year? Make a new order and get ripped by homer fans? The latter might be more fun.

We'll also begin putting out overall rankings for 2010 next week. There will be seniors and juniors.

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The problem in doing this comes in the draft order. Keep it how it was this year? Make a new order and get ripped by homer fans? The latter might be more fun.

Keeping how it was may be even more inaccurate than guessing. My personal favorite is that 4 of McShay’s top ten were drafted in the first round.

by math_geek on Apr 30, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WHO GOT THE #1 PLAYER IN THE DRAFT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

GO COLTS

FILI FILI FILI FILI

I got Summer hatin' on me cuz I'm hotter than the sun. Spring hatin' on me cuz I ain't never sprung
Winter hatin' on me cuz I'm colder than Y'all. And I will never, I will never, I will never Fall.
-Lil Wayne, Mr. Carter

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

by math_geek on Apr 30, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think I can clear up some of the Moala to Indy confusion

the season Moala had just finished that had McShay listing up at #1 overall was as a 4-3 DT.

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I was never confused… just intrigued.

Moala played 3-4 in college and what-not. He’s quite the talent, but something’s going on in Indy to take someone with his skill-set. I’m assuming hes in line to play 3-technique, and it will be interesting to see how well he does it.

Hey, the Ravens took a 4-3 defensive end with the stated intention of putting 20 pounds on him and having him play 3-4 DE. We actually once took a 4-3 DT and put him at 3-4 SAM… Jarret Johnston. Nothing wrong with these innovations, they can be great when they work.

by math_geek on Apr 30, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Moala is definately playing some 3 tech

the question is if he’s play any 1 tech.

On passing downs will he slide over or leave the field for one of the smaller 3 techs, or is he staying on as a fixture in that spot.

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCoy McCoy for the Seahawks please!

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Trent Williams, and Bryan Baluga.

by LantermanC on Apr 30, 2009 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

REALLY??????

Why the hell would you want the next in line of bust system QB"s??

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 30, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't, that's why I said McCoy not Bradford or Tebow.

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Trent Williams, and Bryan Baluga.

by LantermanC on May 1, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well

if you don;t put McCoy in the same category of system QB’s as Bradford, maybe check out a few UT and OU games.

They are the same exactly types of offense.

They may have talent, but if NFL teams aren’t in position to give these guys 3-4 years to learn an NFL playbook, they all will be busts.

Its just rare for a spread/system QB (whatever you want to call it) to actually be good in the NFL. Alex Smith, Tim Couch, Vince Young…These guys may have some athletic ability and the talent, but you have to give them a long time cuz they pretty much had coloring books for playbooks in college.

by FreeBradshaw on May 1, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can I has Bulaga?

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would ask you to come up with a draft order so all the hatred could be targeted in your direction. But then I figured you’d give Indianapolis the Super Bowl and we know that will never happen.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 30, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they are as likely to win as just about anyone

I would just go with the same order as this years. No need to put in extra work for something that’s only going to draw hate.

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Controversy creates clicks!

by Mocking Dan on Apr 30, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

do you really want to be

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He does pull in a much larger paycheck than I do…

by Mocking Dan on Apr 30, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i bet you sleep better at night

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’d sleep better in a pile full of money, personally

by math_geek on Apr 30, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a huuuuuuuge NFL fan that has never gotten into college football I love the idea of early mock drafts. To tell you the truth I view college football as nothing but a 2-4 year tryout for the NFL. Until they get this stupid BSC nonsense out and setup a real championship tournament there is no way I can actually put my heart in to it.

Back on topic… I depend on these mock drafts so if i ever do have a free saturday I know which games to watch and more importantly which games to key in on. I am new to this site (and the SBNation) but i always thought it would be a good idea for a site to do a weekly segment on players matchups to watch for each given week. Say the 2010 versions of Jason Smith and Chris Long are preparing for a big Baylor vs UVA game. Normally that would be a snoozefest for me, knowing though that there are 2 bigtime prospects for me to key in on I would be 100x more interested.

Also… is there any where that mcshay’s complete mock is available or was it just top 10??

by dt3 on Apr 30, 2009 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, look for some matchup stuff for sure during college football season. Those will probably be the focus of our content during the football season.

I’ll look for the whole mock when I get home. Don’t get your hopes up, though.

by Mocking Dan on Apr 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Al Woods??

Dont recognize that name at all… did he completely fall off or did he stay in school? Is he still ranked high for next year??

by dt3 on Apr 30, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

still in school

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=233526&Q_SEASON=2007

by shake n bake on Apr 30, 2009 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dont feel as bad about not knowing the guy now… who predicts that a DT with (at the time) 1 career start is going to be a top 5 pick??

by dt3 on Apr 30, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

notice

the bengals got three of those guys….

by Joe27 on Apr 30, 2009 4:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Woo-hoo!

+10

by IgnatiusJReilly on Apr 30, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As a Falcons fan

Let me just laugh and laugh and laugh.

by Dave the Falconer on Apr 30, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Spikes.

McShay’s top 16 does not include Spikes and I have to wonder why. He’s likely going to be 2010’s Aaron Curry, basically, don’t you think?

"The mystic chords of fandom, stretching from every trade and signing to every active account and guest all over this broadband, will yet swell the chorus of union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature". ~ Abraham Lincoln-ish

"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish

by ejruiz on May 1, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hard to say at this point. He’s talented and athletic, but so is Sergio Kindle, Antonio Coleman and Sean Weatherspoon.

by Mocking Dan on May 1, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Thing About Spikes.

Brandon is versatile and complete. He can drop back in coverage, get picks and take them to the house. He can rush the passer off the edge. He can rack up the tackles in the middle and make plays sideline to sideline. I could see him thriving in any scheme anywhere. He’s not perfect, but he’s definitely one of the most complete and he’s getting a ton out of his potential. Anything can happen between now and then, but right now, doesn’t he have to be in everyone’s top ten prospects overall as the top LB and the top half of mocks?

"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish

by ejruiz on May 1, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs