2010 NFL Mock Draft

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 12:10 PM EDT in 2010 NFL Draft Comment 117 comments

This is my first stab whatsoever at a 2010 mock draft. The draft order is based on Todd McShay's with some modifications.

Not a ton of juniors were included. Those that were have an asterisk before their name. If any of these picks are correct at the end of April next year, I will eat my shoe.

Still, nothing is as equally fun and frustrating as putting together a mock draft. So remember, when ripping me for his, implore you to try your own in a fanshot.

1. St. Louis Rams - *Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma, 6'4, 218
It was hard to put the Rams in this spot, but the team will have a long season with a poor offense. It's time to pump new life at quarterback and Bradford is the best in the country.

2. Oakland Raiders - Taylor Mays, FS, Southern California, 6'3, 230
Mays' athleticism and size is incredible. He seems like the perfect Oakland selection. He could play next to surprising second-round pick Mike Mitchell and the team can finally be rid of the bust known as Michael Huff.

3. Detroit Lions - Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma, 6'5, 309
Pick a left tackle and it will be the right pick for Detroit. Some like Russell Okung better, but not me.

4. San Francisco 49ers - Colt McCoy, QB, Texas, 6'3, 216
The 49ers missed out on Mark Sanchez in the 2009 NFL Draft and McCoy is a fairly similar player. He's also a good leader, something the 49ers haven't had on offense in a long time.

5. Seattle Seahawks (from Denver) - *Eric Berry, SS, Tennessee, 5'11, 195
Seattle is in a good spot with two first-round picks. Berry is a Ed Reed clone.

6. Cleveland Browns - *Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma, 6'4, 295
The Browns need to continue improving their defense and no pass rushers, at this point, seem worth this early of a pick.

7. Jacksonville Jaguars - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska, 6'4, 305
Help next to John Henderson was not addressed in this year's draft. Suh is a great penetrating tackle.

8. Kansas City Chiefs - Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College 6'4, 238
In Herzlich, the Chiefs would have a long-term answer at strong-side linebacker, something Mike Vrabel doesn't provide. He can play outside or put his hand down in 4-3 sets.

9. Washington Redskins - *Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa, 6'6, 304
The Redskins might need a quarterback, but Bulaga looks to be a great talent. He could start right now for some NFL teams.

10. Buffalo Bills - Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State, 6'5, 300
The Bills didn't properly address offensive tackle after trading Jason Peters, which is why the team could be drafting in the top 10. Okung is similar to Peters and would be a natural fit.

11. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina) - Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas, 6'4, 254
If the 49ers want to help Parys Haralson generate a pass rush, Kindle is the kind of player the team needs.

12. Houston Texans - *Joe Haden, CB, Florida, 5'11, 185
At the moment, no cornerbacks in college football are clearly tops at their position. Haden shows the ability to become that player. If Dunta Robinson can't be satisfied, it's time to find his replacement.

13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - *Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina, 6'3, 305
Roy Miller was a good value choice for Tampa Bay in the third round, the team needs a playmaker inside. It might be a stretch to have Austin fall this far in the draft.

14. Cincinnati Bengals - *Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois, 6'2, 214
Chad Ochocinco wants out. After him, the Bengals are already suspect at wide receiver. Benn has the tools to become a No. 1 target for Carson Palmer.

15. Miami Dolphins - Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama, 6'4 365
Jason Ferguson is nearing retirement and Cody is far and away the best natural 3-4 nose tackle looking ahead to the 2010 NFL Draft.

16. Green Bay Packers - *Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida, 6'6, 286
Like Austin, it might be unlikely Dunlap falls this far in the draft. But if he does and Green Bay is picking in this range, it would be a great pickup. He's a good pass rusher and more than big enough to hold up at 3-4 defensive end. Expect to hear Richard Seymour comparisons this time next year.

17. New York Jets - *Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State, 6'2, 210
While Mark Sanchez was a great pick for the Jets, he doesn't have the weapons at wide receiver. Bryant was dazzling last season.

18. Seattle Seahawks - *Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech, 5'11, 228
Among juniors and seniors in college football this year, none looks better than Dwyer. He would be an immediate starter for the Seahwaks.

19. New Orleans Saints - Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri, 6'1, 235
The Saints didn't find a good outside linebacker option in the 2009 draft. Weatherspoon might not be the biggest, but he's very productive.

20. Denver Broncos (from Chicago) - *Jevan Snead, QB, Mississippi, 6'3, 215
Kyle Orton is not a franchis quarterback. If Snead continues to progress like he did the second half of last seaosn, he could be.

21. Tennessee Titans - Brandon Spikes, MLB, Florida, 6'3, 245
Spikes only drops this far because not a lot of teams need a middle linebacker. The Titans do. Spikes is a great athlete who could have been taken on the first day of the 2009 draft.

22. Baltimore Ravens - *Damian Williams, WR, Southern California, 6'1, 190
Another year, another projection of the Ravens taking a wide receiver in a first round mock draft. It has to work at some point, right? At times last year, Williams looked like the best wide receiver in college football.

23. Dallas Cowboys - Ciron Black, OT, LSU, 6'5, 328
The Cowboys could use a safety, but after Mays and Berry none seem like first-round players at this point. Black would fit well on Dallas' powerful offensive line.

24. New York Giants - Trevard Lindley, CB, Kentucky, 6'0, 178
Lindley is a top athlete who is a good player when he wants to be. With Tom Coughlin making him want to be good every day, Lindley could be a steal.

25. Minnesota Vikings - Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma, 6'6, 262
Gresham only falls this far because tight end isn't an early first round priority. The Vikings would finally have a great tight end, for whomever ends up being the quarterback.

26. Indianapolis Colts - Greg Hardy, DE, Mississippi, 6'4, 265
Some are very high on Hardy because his strength and athleticism. Some are very low because of his questionable work ethic and attitude.

27. Arizona Cardinals - Adam Ulatoski, OT, Texas, 6'8, 302
The Cardinals could use a good offensive tackle opposite Levi Brown. Ulatoski shows the skills to be that player.

28. San Diego Chargers - DeMarcus Granger, DT, Oklahoma, 6'3, 306
Granger is a polarizing player because of his injury history. He looks like the perfect fit for 3-4 defensive end.

29. Atlanta Falcons - *Navorro Bowman, OLB, Penn State, 6'1, 228
Bowman may have some character issues that might scare the Falcons off, but he showed in 2008 that he's an incredible player. If he didn't have so much baggage, he could be a top 15 pick.

30. Pittsburgh Steelers - *Rolando McClain, MLB, Alabama, 6'4, 248
Lawrence Timmons just doesn't seem like a great fit on the inside and James Farrior's career is winding down.

31. Philadelphia Eagles - *Everson Griffen, DE, Southern California, 6'3, 265
The Eagles are always looking to improve their pass rush, and Griffen has shown flashes of greatness in that area.

32. New England Patriots - George Selvie, DE/OLB, South Florida, 6'4, 252
Selvie is a fringe first rounder after having a down 2008 which saw him routinely get double teamed. He's an effort player and New England didn't do a lot in this year's draft to address the rush.

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is Ulatoski capable of starting from day 1?

by Bezekira on May 7, 2009 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Projecting that sort of thing this time of the year is tough. I think you can say that a guy is ready, but you can’t say a guy isn’t ready. Does that make sense? I’m sure it sounds kind of dopey, but for all we know right now, Ulatoski could be the first overall pick next year.

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't understand all the DE to Indy picks out there

Freeney is under contract through 2012, Mathis through 2011, both are coming off Pro Bowl seasons and they have Raheem Brock through 2010 to spell/take run downs for either of the starters, AND they picked up two young Robert Mathis clones, Marcus Howard and Curtis Johnson last year, who looked like excellent pass rushers in their limited PT.

Give me a OT, Diem looked cooked last year and Ugoh needs to be more consistent

or a CB Marlin Jackson and Tim Jennings contracts are up after this year leaving Indy with only 1 CB who has even played as a nickelback regularly or even a LB

or even a LB, Gary Brackett will be a free agent after this season and 30 years old before the 2010 season.

Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
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by shake n bake on May 7, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You’re probably right about offensive tackle. Cornerback, though, seems very weak at this point.

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

First of all, the Seahawks won't have the 18th pick,

they’ll have the 32nd pick.

Love the Eric Berry pick, and Al Davis taking Mays with the 2nd pick would be like killing two birds with one stone for me.
I’ve never heard of Dwyer, but he seems great except for his game against Gardner Webb (excluding the 79 yard td reception). I wouldn’t mind Black, but I’m not sure if we’ll need a T next year. Our biggest needs will probably be DT, S, QB, and OT (depending on if Locklear can play LT or if Walt can come back). But then again, I’m one of those guys that think you can get a RB in the later rounds, and unless a Beanie Wells type falls to you at 31, you shouldn’t draft one.

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Eric Berry, and Bryan Bulaga.

by LantermanC on May 7, 2009 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dwyer is insane. Hes like a combination of Brandon Jacobs and Michael Turner

Eric Berry Bandwagon

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 7, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’ll remember those needs for Seattle in the next mock.

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just to be clear Mocking Dan,

I was kidding about the 32nd pick (since so many of you out there seem to be whiners about your pick position). I’d be fine if you put us at pick 4 again for all I care. Awesome work.
What are you feelings on Tebow? I think he’s a 5th rounder, but some team will be dumb enough, fall in love with his character and potential and draft him in the 1st or 2nd (I hope it’s not the Seahawks, but Ruskell sure loves his character guys).

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Eric Berry, and Bryan Bulaga.

by LantermanC on May 8, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2010 Mock Draft

I don’t think Chicago will do all that well next year with an improving Vikings, Packers, and yes even the Lions, not to mention that Cutler will take at least a year to fit in with the Chicago offense. Using Chicago’s pick, I think Denver picks higher and maybe goes after that Nose Tackle it needs and didn’t get this year, like Cody, then picks up a QB in the second round, maybe one named Tebow.

by opinion8r on May 7, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If Sage Rosenfels or Tavarris Jackson is the starting quarterback for Minnesota next year, they won’t be better. Green Bay is tough to say because they’re changing defensive philosophy. You’re probably right about Denver and a nose tackle, though.

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yea everyone already knows the Raiders will take Mays. I would be surprised if the jets and the broncos dont pick in the top 10. same thing with the cowboys.

Berry is insane.

The Browns will be better than the chiefs and i think the browns will be better than 26th.

I think the Browns are more likely to take Dunlap or Dwyer than McCoy. They are better fits.

Eric Berry Bandwagon

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 7, 2009 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Better than 26th? Say wha? You really think, objectively, that the Browns are going to make the playoffs?

I did consider Dunlap and wasn’t happy having him fall that far. Running backs shouldn’t be picked that high. Although I like Dwyer, six is too high for him.

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no if we would make the playoffs we would be like a top 10 team. If you are 26th you are 6th worst thats what i meant. I dont expect the playoffs, but i expect the browns to get 7 or 8 wins

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 7, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

13. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – *Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina, 6’3, 305
Roy Miller was a good value choice for Tampa Bay in the third round, the team needs a playmaker inside. It might be a stretch to have Austin fall this far in the draft.

I don’t see him as a 1st round talent currently. Hasn’t developed like people thought he would. In fact, he wasn’t 1st, 2nd, or even honorable mention all conference. http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120108aab.html

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by FSUncensored on May 7, 2009 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He’s one of the guys I think is going to have a huge breakthrough this year. I might be slanted on Austin as the only Carolina games I saw last year were Boston College, Duke and Notre Dame and he looked impressive.

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

10. Buffalo Bills – Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State, 6’5, 300

Well at least they won’t be picking 11th again….

I don’t see OT as a huge need for this team. Brad Butler who had been playing guard will move out to RT, (his college position) and Langston Walker will play LT. While the idea of Walker playing LT for a whole season fills me with dread, they have Karl Malone’s son, Demetrius Bell waiting in the wings. I wouldn’t be shocked if they do draft an OT in this draft, but I don’t see it a the gigantic need that everyone sees it as.

I would say D-line, either DE or DT might be a better call at this point.

No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.

by sireric on May 7, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I agree with Eric here.

The reason they didn’t take an OT in the second round or beyond was because they feel D. Bell is better than those other prospects. That’s why he was on the active roster last year and not the practice squad.

And I think if we are picking tenth, we go QB. Because if we are picking tenth it’s because our offense was terrible. DE and DT are two good positions to watch for as well. LB is the other but not such a high priority.

Of course we could be switching coaches and defensive or offensive schemes as well…….

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by MattRichWarren on May 8, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Of course you agree with me Matt, I’m smart and know what I’m talking about.

No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.

by sireric on May 8, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right...

But some of the most intelligent people in the country often disagree about things like taxes, religion, helping the poor, etc. Just because you’re smart and know your side of the story doesn’t make you infallible. :-)

Please, no political comments in response to this.

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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And here I was expecting something along the lines of : "Great minds …..’

Oh well.

No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.

by sireric on May 9, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well...

If I thought either one of us had a great mind you’d be the first to know. :-)

Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.

by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cool. I will be awaiting your e-mail on that.

Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida, 6’6, 286

This is the guy I have my eyeballs on early.

No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.

by sireric on May 11, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

is he more suited for a 3-4 or 4-3

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 12, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That is what I need to find out.

No night spent pantsless is a wasted night.

by sireric on May 13, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

4-3

He’s not someone to take on blockers.

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by FSUncensored on May 14, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

de or dt

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 14, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

2 things

first, i like the pick for the steelers going mlb replace farrior in the future, especially if it’s good value, but what’s wrong with timmons? we just released foote to make way for timmons into the starting lineup and i doubt the steelers FO have any intentions of replacing him after impressing last season.

and secondly, i think dunlap is a wasted talent at 3-4 DE. yes, he has the massive size that’s needed, but he also runs a 4.6 which wouldn’t be utilized at the 3-4 DE spot. i see him as the next julius peppers type of player.

by tdp992 on May 7, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Just don’t see Timmons being able to make that transition successfully.

Secretly, on Dunlap, I just wanted to get him in there somewhere.

by Mocking Dan on May 7, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry Bro

But I just don’t see all of these early mocks having J-Ville picking higher than they did this past year. I’m not saying we’re going to win the Super Bowl, but I think 15-17th spot is more realistic. Get real man, we have a nice core of players.

Thats Good For Another Jacksonville... First Down.

by Bestjagfan on May 7, 2009 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hey, there are 256 losses out there every NFL season

somebody, even with some talented players, is going to have to take a healthy share of them.

Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"

by shake n bake on May 7, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

sorry man but i think you all might be about 10th.

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 7, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

houston

not getting the 12th pick next year…unless they trade for it

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on May 7, 2009 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I Agree

With that too. I hate the Texans, but I’m not going to lie that you guys have a good chance to win 11 games next season.

Its because I'm a hypocrite just like you
-Akrobatik

by Bestjagfan on May 9, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 9, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

so... uh...

Since no one else seems to want to say it… Where’s Tebow?

Being a Gator fan, I should technically be biased, even though Grossman and practically every UF WR should say I shouldn’t be… But all that aside, history has proven people with a will that strong can succeed no matter what obstacles they may have to overcome. I mean shit, look at Doug Flutie. That guy should have, by all conventional wisdom, failed miserably and been out of the NFL within 3 years. Assuming he doesn’t completely fall on his face next year, some team is going to take the risk in the 1st on him, especially with the proliferation of the wildcat offense (which he’s practically the prototype for)

by OfficerRodFarva on May 8, 2009 4:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

As much as I hate to say it

If the Jags are picking 7th, they’ll draft Tebow here. At that point Del Rio will be fired and a vocal minority of the fan base will be begging for Tebow to be drafted by the Jags. The new coach will want a new identity and a new QB for the Jags. Tebow’s the logical pick here.

by Bryqan on May 8, 2009 5:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

as a Colts fan I can only hope

Half the game too lazy
still sleepin' on me
but I'm 'bout to wake 'em
-Lil' Wayne "Fireman"

by shake n bake on May 8, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone has to block for MJD I guess.

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Eric Berry, and Bryan Bulaga.

by LantermanC on May 8, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He plays out of the shotgun. He isnt that accurate. Some places say hes short. He is a scrambling QB. His throwing motion is jacked up.

2nd-3rd rounder if you ask me and he will more than likely be like grossman

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 8, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree

The problem is the vocal minority would probably be the leading voice with complete disarray within the franchise and would be very teabaggerish in their demand for Tebow to be a Jaguar

by Bryqan on May 10, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

could u post that in english

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 11, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously.

You want to look smart, make Aaron Hernandez your #1 TE. He’s been nearly unstoppable as a Gator and even better in spring practices this year, plus he’ll be the #1 option for Florida this season. Also, someone will need to explain to me how Tyson Jackson can go #3 overall, but Dunlap will fall to the middle of Round 1. Ditto for Spikes, who compares favorably to #4 pick Aaron Curry yet finds himself in the teens in yet another mock draft. And how does Josh Freeman go in the first round while Tebow doesn’t?

And yes, I’m a Gators fan, but I don’t think I’m being a blind homer here…

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by ejruiz on May 8, 2009 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Probably because Tebow doesn't project to the NFL well.

Look at Graham Harrell. He didn’t even get drafted. Maybe if Tebow didn’t run 10 times per game, and if he weren’t so slow. He’s big enough to run over some guys in college, but in the NFL, he’s just going to get injured. I’m actually a Tebow supporter, I just think there are too many risks to justify taking him before pick 15.

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Eric Berry, and Bryan Bulaga.

by LantermanC on May 8, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm...

You’re down on Tebow in 2010, but you want McCoy (I’m going by your sig)? Tim’s ten carries are too much, but Colt’s aren’t? And, sure, McCoy may be faster, but he’s also smaller…

"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish

by ejruiz on May 8, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCoy relies on his arm. Tebow relies on his feet

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 8, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

McCoy didn't really run nearly as much until this year.

Plus McCoy had a 70% completion percentage. I’ll be honest, I’m wary of McCoy as well, but I’m assuming the Hawks will use their 5th pick on Gerald McCoy and then have to settle for Colt with the 15th or so pick.

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Eric Berry, and Bryan Bulaga.

by LantermanC on May 9, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You want to look smart, make Aaron Hernandez your #1 TE. He’s been nearly unstoppable as a Gator and even better in spring practices this year, plus he’ll be the #1 option for Florida this season

Doesn’t run routes in that offense. Shovel passes aren’t cutting it.

Also, someone will need to explain to me how Tyson Jackson can go #3 overall, but Dunlap will fall to the middle of Round 1.

Consistent effort. Also, they are cut differently. Dunlap isn’t a 5 technique while Jackson is. UF DL have been horrible lately. Heck Jarvis Moss just got cut.

Ditto for Spikes, who compares favorably to #4 pick Aaron Curry yet finds himself in the teens in yet another mock draft.

Curry is much better. Spikes is limited physically.

And how does Josh Freeman go in the first round while Tebow doesn’t?

Neither should have gone.

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by FSUncensored on May 8, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That about covers it!

Look, I love Spikes, but how many teams need to spend an early first round pick on a middle linebacker who isn’t Patrick Willis? I know New England did with Jerod Mayo, but everyone considered that a reach, albeit one that paid off.

As for Tebow, if someone can objectively and intelligently explain why he deserves to go in the first round, I’ll be the first in line to listen.

Like I’ve said about Dunlap, I probably did have him dropping too far. But maybe he’ll be higher the next time I try one of these.

And don’t forget this people: If you want to just rip the mock, that’s perfectly fine. I encourage it. But I also encourage you try to one in a fanshot.

by Mocking Dan on May 8, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My Pleasure.

I know how hard these are to do the day before the draft, let alone this far in advance, so thanks. I also know that you want to inspire some debate, so I hope you don’t mind my arguing for my boys. I’ll post a mock of my own for you guys to tear up soon enough.

"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish

by ejruiz on May 8, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh Yeah?

Leave it to a Noles fan to point out the cons of Gators prospects! Let’s get to it: who cares if Freeman should have gone in the first, the point is that he did and I believe that the same phenomenon will hold true for Tebow; he’ll be the last high-profile QB prospect and is the type that some franchise will fall in love with. While people were all on Curry by the time the combine ended, no one thought that highly of him beforehand; why don’t we give Spikes that luxury before calling him out as physically inferior, despite being the same size and comparably productive as juniors? As for Dunlap, Jackson was knocked for an inconsistent motor; by the way, how many LSU DL are lighting the NFL on fire? And Hernandez is the leading returning receiver for Florida in every respect, who happened to tear things up in spring practice; ask around the SEC and coaches said that the toughest match-ups on UF were Percy and Aaron, who can do much more than just catch shovel passes.

"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish

by ejruiz on May 8, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just because they are from florida doesnt mean they are great

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 8, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No It Doesn't.

And just because they’re in a Browns uniform, doesn’t mean they’re great either…

"The tree of victory must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of quarterbacks and coaches". ~ Thomas Jefferson-ish

by ejruiz on May 9, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dont remember ever saying that

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 9, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Every major evaluator loved Curry before the combine.

Spikes doesn’t have the lateral quickness. There’s a reason he came back. He might be a first rounder, but McClain will definitely go higher than him if he comes out. NFL scouts are all over McClain.

Tearing up spring practice, eh? Awesome. He doesn’t run nfl routes at UF. Why was Percy terrible in interviews? Maybe because he couldn’t understand defenses.

I personally like Hernandez a lot. I think he is a great college player. I do not, however, think he belongs in the first round discussion. He’s a horrible matchup for everyone in the SEC, but that’s not much of a transferable skill. How much of those receiving yards are from shovel passes?

You ignored my point on Jackson and that is they play different positions. Jackson was never criticized for an inconsistent motor.

If Dunlap plays consistently and not like a slacker he will be a monster and will have no problem going in the top 15.

Tebow has a very limited skillset and a mess of a delivery. Plus, he’s a lefty, which will further scare people off.

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by FSUncensored on May 8, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bravo Sierra.

Now I know you’re full of it!

Spikes went back to UF because of his sense of loyalty to Tebow and the rest of the guys that decided to stay for one last hurrah.

Percy was terrible in interviews because they guy is a self-absorbed typical diva WR nad his durability slash lack of a defined position cost him more than the interviews. Speaking of which, Percy’s hybrid position and ridiculous quickness/speed are the reasons why he didn’t develope his route running at UF, neither of which have or will hold back Hernandez. If you seriously think that the shovel pass is that significant of a portion of his production, then you’re not watchin him play all that much.

As for Jackson, I know of at least one draft guru (Scott Wright of NFL Draft Countdown) who pointed out his hot and cold motor. Dunlap has the frame to play as a 3-4 DE and technique can be taught, so like Tyson he’ll see his draft stock inflated because of it. It’s also fair to assume that he will continue to improved and build of his mauling of the Sooners.

Finally, Tebow certainly has a lot of work to do, but all he needs is that one NFL franchise to fall in love wth him. Like I said before. if Josh Freeman is a first round QB, then Tim can do it, too.

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by ejruiz on May 9, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its a mock draft a year in advance. Calm down. It means absolutely nothing. This time last year people thought Cullen Harper, Hunter Cantwell, and Curtis Painter would be first day draft choiches.

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 8, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dont get me wrong though i love talking about this kind of stuff

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 8, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm Not Upset...

I’m just shocked. I’m curious as to why people seem to be underestimating the 2010 Gators draft class and I’m apparently getting answers, which is nice. It is too early to be accurate about all this, but it’s certainly not to early to start arguing about it!

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by ejruiz on May 8, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

People certainly love the Oklahoma draft class.

Funny how that is considering the bowl game.

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Eric Berry, and Bryan Bulaga.

by LantermanC on May 9, 2009 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Oh, and...

Denver (with Kyle Orton) is gonna serve up some serious crow this season… seriously, take a look at Kyle’s stats pre-ankle injury last year (first eight games) and tell me that with an improved scheme, supporting staff and homefield he’s not going to be alright. The Broncos will be a .500 team, give or take a win, in 2009. Now, don’t change your mock order or the Broncos pick, cause everyone’s entitled to their opinion, but just remember this when then time comes, cause I will!

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by ejruiz on May 8, 2009 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

even if Orton is as good as Jay Cutler (unlikely) and the offense is as good as it was last year (unlikely)… there’s still the concerns about Denver’s defense (big concerns).

Really big concerns about Denvers defense… and Denver is playing the AFC North and NFC East, which are considerably better divisions than the NFC South and AFC East. And Denver’s two side games, Indy and New England, two of the best teams in the NFL. I’d say that 10 games on Denver’s schedule are against teams that are simply just better teams. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, San Diego (twice), Indy, New England, and every team in the NFC East. And Denver last year was incredibly erratic, managing to lose a bunch of games to bad teams.

by math_geek on May 8, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

I didn’t realize that we were playing last year’s teams! Truth is that the schedule means nothing until some games are played. And when someone that saw the Dolphins and Falcons making the playoffs last year tells me that it’s set in stone that my Broncos can’t reach .500 in 2009, then maybe I’ll listen. Sorry…

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by ejruiz on May 8, 2009 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The AFC North is not better than the NFC South

well it could be close I do see Cleveland and def Cincy being better, but Carolina, Atlanta and NO will all be playoff contenders

by GobbleforCyoung on May 8, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

depends on how you look at it

I’d rank it

Ravens/Steelers
Entire NFC South
Bengals/Browns

so which one is better? Hard to say.

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by shake n bake on May 8, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

really? Ravens and Steelers were both top 3 teams. The Browns will be much better with a new coaching staff and when their players are healthy

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 8, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I meant to say AFC North is better than the AFC East (which it is)

and the NFC East is better than the NFC South.

by math_geek on May 9, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What a joke

by 69 on May 8, 2009 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What a helpful comment.

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by MattRichWarren on May 9, 2009 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Again, If you want to just rip this, that’s fine. But if you do, I implore you to try one in a fanshot. In your case, EAD.

by Mocking Dan on May 9, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

-1

by Brendan Scolari on May 10, 2009 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mocking Dan,

any interest in doing a 2nd round mock too? That would be awesome. Funny how I was sick of mocks 1 week ago, but now I’m back into it.

McCoy McCoy 2010, also acceptable, Russell Okung, Ndamukong Suh, Dez Bryant, Ciron Black, Eric Berry, and Bryan Bulaga.

by LantermanC on May 9, 2009 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If the Jags pick in the Top 10 next year and draft Tebow

Then I’m reverting to being a college only fan for at least a year. In all seriousness, I don’t know much about Suh. I believe the 2009 season for the Jags rests on two things, how quickly Monroe and Britton establish themselves and if Derek Landri can go from having “Potential” to being a full time starter at DT. If all goes well, I don’t think 10-6 and a wild card is out of the question. If not, I think #7 is about right. As far as need goes, at this point, I would say DT, SS, and WR (in order) are the Jags main needs.

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by Jonathan Loesche on May 9, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If the Jags are picking #7

Jack’s fired and the new HC is probably gonna want to get rid of Garrard and get a new QB to build his vision of the franchise around…with Gene’s direction of course.

by Bryqan on May 10, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't know what to think of this

You got potential #1 overall Carlos Dunlap in the middle of the round, you got Colt McCoy in the Top 5 which is absolutely nuts. System QB?

Sam Bradford probably will be the #1 overall, I see him being better than last year. I don’t think he’ll be worth it, cuz as anyone knows system/spread QB’s, whatever you want to call them, Bradford is that, usually bust.

Only thing I can hope for is if the Dallas Cowboys are drafting #1 overall and get Bradford. I think he will be a bust cuz he is a spread QB, so taking the Cowgirls down (after of course getting the #1 overall) would just have a great outlook to me.

by FreeBradshaw on May 9, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ouch

What’s with the Timmons hatin’? The guy’s a head turner in limited playing time, and now that he’s starting, this is gonna be filthy for teams to try and stop the Steelers front 7 even though it already was. I do agree though that McClain could be a great replacement for Farrior. I wanna see what Farrior’s got left in the tank first as well, but I wouldn’t mind having McClain at all.

I’d love to see the Steelers some how gettin’ Terrence Cody. I think that if he doesn’t get his weight under control, he may fall a little in draft stock and be there wherever the Steelers end up. That’s my hope anyway.

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by HighSchoolSteeler on May 9, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Thank you

for giving us Jevan Snead. I just hope the focus all year is on Bradford and Tebow, that way we can steal him.

BTW, the Steelers and the Falcons will be drafting in the last two spots, not the Pats and Eagles.

by PABroncofan on May 10, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Steelers vs Falcons Superbowl 44?

Wouldn’t mind that. I think my Steelers would dominate that one. As well as the Falcons have turned it around, I don’t think they can take the Steelers Defense.

by HighSchoolSteeler on May 10, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

naw it will be the pats or ravens and the eagles or cards

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 11, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ravens lost too much

Scott, Ryan, Leonard, and half their secondary.

by HighSchoolSteeler on May 11, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just hope its not the steelers that make it to the SB. No offense, im just a browns fan so dont take it personal

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 11, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha

No problem I can understand that. I’m not gonna have any sympathy if we do repeat though.

by HighSchoolSteeler on May 12, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

just wondering…

as a steeler fan, how many wins do u expect the browns to have this year(most of our reasonable fans are predicting 7or 8)

and who do u think is better, us or the bengals(when both teams are healthy)

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 12, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm...

Well, I could see the Browns getting 7 as long as they get their QB situation set in stone. If it were up to me, I would start Quinn, and hold Anderson as a backup/trade bait. Of course you guys had to take my favorite player in the draft in Alex Mack, who I believe will be a repeat pro-bowler, so I think that helps you out offensive line wise.

Definitely an improvement in WR, but defense will probably hurt your chances.

I could see 7 wins but I wouldn’t be surprised if you finished with 4 or 5.

As much as I hate to say it, the Bengals had an unbelievable draft, so I’d be more worried to play them. That being said, Mangini, (not sure if I spelled that right) seems to have a better sense of team discipline then the Bungles so you guys could definitely have a better year.

by HighSchoolSteeler on May 12, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We had so many injuries last year and bad coaching and ended up with 4 wins. We are a much better team this year. Quinn pretty much is our starter but we just probably wanted to increase DA’s trade value by saying it was an open competition.

The bengals first 3 picks all had attitude problems.

I probably see the steelers getting 13 or 14 wins this year.

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 12, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

True

And I agree with that prediction for the Steelers.

by HighSchoolSteeler on May 13, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lame spot for the fins...dont you believe? lol

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by finsxfactor on May 10, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

As much as I dislike the fins, I would think that they would at least be drafting later then the Jets.

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by sireric on May 11, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

At least the dolphins have a year under their new coach and a successful QB.

While the Jets have…… Thomas Jones?

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by MattRichWarren on May 11, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

SHONN GREENE

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by shake n bake on May 11, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

right....

so multiple running backs… no WR, rookie QB

I just can’t see the Jets being better than the Dolphins in 2009.

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by MattRichWarren on May 13, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

TJ, Washington, Greene, Scott, mangold, ferguson. I dont think the jets will be that goood though

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 11, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That was the point.

They have a few pieces but nothing resembling an offense other than RB.

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by MattRichWarren on May 13, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way Colt McCoy is a first round pick in 2010. Just no way possible.

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by gahnki on May 12, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Care to explain why? I know he’s a spread guy, but his arm strength is very good, he’s a leader and makes great decisions with the ball.

by Mocking Dan on May 12, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dan, tell me this

When was the last time the Big XII/Big 8 produced a big time QB prospect?

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by Jonathan Loesche on May 14, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good question. I guess Sage Rosenfels is holding it down.

But, that’s not to say Bradford and McCoy won’t be good pro quarterbacks.

by Mocking Dan on May 14, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

QB's to come out of the SEC in the two decades before Peyton Manning

PFR Link

The conference history doesn’t tell you anything about the current QBs

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by shake n bake on May 14, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and QB's from the Pac10 over the same span

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/draft_query.cgi?pos=QB&round_1=1&round_2=30&tm=all&year_1=1978&year_2=1998&conference=pac10&type=

Were you a Ryan Leaf fan?

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by shake n bake on May 14, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, but it can give you some indication

I really wasn’t into the draft when the whole Peyton/Leaf thing was going around. The thing is, the Big XII had such piss poor defense last year, how can you figure out anything on these guys?

Also, I don’t think it’s fair to compare the Big XII to the SEC before Peyton. Peyton graduated right about the time all the other SEC schools figured out you couldn’t beat UF playing 3 yards and a cloud of dust football. The Big XII has always had a tendency to be more pass happy.

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by Jonathan Loesche on May 15, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sure he’s a great leader, but he just isn’t what the NFL wants in a quarterback. He has decent height, but a very small frame. He’s never played in an offense where he’s had to take his drops and hit the progression. A large majority of Texas’ plays are short routes. They run a lot of all curl, hitch, and other short combinations. The lack of secondary talent in the Big 12 inflates his numbers incredibly.

His arm strength is very hard to gauge right now as well. Texas offense protects him very much. His deficiencies are hidden with their passing game.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 14, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you see the Texas spring game? McCoy looked much bigger and was throwing in some fierce wind with ease.

I understand the issue of transitioning a spread quarterback to the NFL, but so many teams are running the spread that a transition will occur. It’s not the Andre Ware/David Klingler offense.

I’m not saying I’m in love with McCoy as a top 10 pick at this point, but there just aren’t that many non-spread quarterbacks worth a darn.

by Mocking Dan on May 14, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did you see the Texas spring game? McCoy looked much bigger and was throwing in some fierce wind with ease.

I did not. Was he really that impressive?

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by gahnki on May 14, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He also has an unaceptably low arm angle.

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by FSUncensored on May 14, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 12, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't say that he isn't going to be a first round pick

Him and Sam Bradford are pretty equal. They both seem to be the top QB’s in this draft, along with Snead and possibly Tebow.

I don’t think McCoy or Bradford will be any good cuz of the spread, but that’s not to say some idiot team will take the chance in the top 10 on them (Cleveland, Washington…….Dallas)

If I was running a team I wouldn’t touch either with a 4-5th round pick. Id be scared to death of every spread QB.

by FreeBradshaw on May 13, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Whos your team? Justify what makes cleveland an idiot team and then we’ll talk.

Plus, the browns dont even need a QB. They have 2 good ones already. I do think Bradford will be good in the NFL though. He can make all of the throws

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 13, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What makes Cleveland an idiot team?????

The have Eric Mangini as their coach. THere is nothing else you can say that DOESN"T make them a dumb team.

Crennel wasn’t much better….

Creating QB controvery never helps. Jamal Lewis is slower than most NFL Lineman. Their best WR, Braylon Edwards has been on the block..Why? Shaun Rogers is being shut out by MR. Mangini and he’s the best D-lineman.

Also, Brady Quinn is NOT a beast.

Cleveland is ass.

by FreeBradshaw on May 14, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tell me what makes mangini stupid.

Quinn is the QB, we just wanted Anderson to have more value so we might be able to trade him.

Shaun Rogers isnt mad anymore and he is a monster.

by BradyQuinnisBeast on May 15, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Um... OU isn't running the spread.

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by FSUncensored on May 14, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

really?

Then run the definition of the spread. Nearly every BIg 12 team runs a version of it.

Many QB’s can make NFL throws. Do they have the brain for it? Bradford looks over to the sideline during every play….He can’t read defenses, even crappy college ones.

by FreeBradshaw on May 14, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OU runs a tempo offense. They may spread at times, but I would classify them as a one back offense much quicker than I would a spread.

Resident Josh Freeman fan.

by gahnki on May 15, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Bradford blows him out of the water. He literally does everything better than McCoy except mobility.

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by gahnki on May 14, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

This.

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by FSUncensored on May 14, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He does blow McCoy out of the water

that’s not saying much.

by FreeBradshaw on May 14, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL,,,Timmons does not seem like a fit.

You obviosuly havnt done your homework on this guy. He is an absolute beast, unknown to most of the NFL. Obviously Pittsburgh felt pretty comfortable with him in the middle as they released Larry Foote. He was rotated in for more playing time last year. When he was on the field he made his fare share of plays. I guarantee this guy makes a name for himself in 2009.

by TheCommish on May 26, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hmm

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by Hoyadestroya85 on May 30, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This mock draft was put together weeks before that came out. And it’s still not completely certain that his career is over. Until that is officially announced, he’ll remain where he is in any rankings or mocks I do.

by Mocking Dan on May 31, 2009 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs