2010 NFL Mock Draft
1. Browns- Carlos Dunlap DE, Florida
Dunlap won’t be at the top of many Mocks, but neither was Mario Williams. The Browns need a pass rusher to complement Kamerion Wimbley and 6'6, 290-pound speed rushers don’t come around often. Dunlap is big enough to handle playing the 3-4 DE role, but athletic enough to provide an effective pass rush.
2. Buccaneers- Eric Berry S, Tennessee
Berry has everything scouts want to see in a safety. He has the athletic ability and coverage skills of a corner back, with the mindset and toughness of a middle linebacker. The Bucs need to rebuild the defense to have any chance of getting back to a playoff contender. Adding a safety that can do it all is a great place to start.
3. Rams- Sam Bradford QB, Oklahoma
Honestly I don’t think Bradford will go in the top three, but at this point of the year I have to have him there. Some team will probably take him higher than they should. I think come draft time he will be the second or third QB prospect on most boards.
4. Seahawks- Taylor Mays S, USC
Mays is a physical freak at 6’2’’, 230 pounds. He is a big time hitter that blows up receivers over the middle and does a great job in run support. Mays must become more of a ball-hawk in 2009 to prove he’s worth a top 5 selection. The Seahawks are going to have their pick and the Broncos first round pick in 2010.
5. Seahawks (From Denver)- Russell Okung OT, Oklahoma State
Okung is dominating both as a run and pass blocker. He may need to add some weight, but has the skills to be a very good left tackle in the NFL. The Seahawks need a lot on both sides of the ball, but with Walter Jones nearing the end of his career they need to address the offensive line early in 2010.
6. Bengals- Terrence Cody DT, Alabama
Cody will provide great size and strength. With so many teams switching to the 3-4 defensive, Cody could easily go higher than six. He could be like Tyson Jackson and provide a defensive line "need" for an NFL team earlier than expected. Either way Cody could be a force in a 3-4 or 4-3. The Bengals must upgrade their defensive line in 2010.
7. Raiders- The Fastest Guy at the combine.
A guy that would make sense is Brandon Spikes OLB, Florida
Spikes doesn’t just provide great athletic ability, he is a leader on the field too. He is the quarterback of the Gators' defense and leads by example. He sticks to his responsibilities and has a knack for making big plays. If he runs a great 40, then maybe the Raiders will take him.
8. Lions- Ciron Black OT, LSU
The Lions can’t be any worse than they were in 2009. I’m going to say I expect them to win about 4 to 5 games. They need to build a line that can protect their huge 2009 investment. Black is a tremendous pass blocker and would be an instant upgrade on the left side. With a talented young QB, RB, WR, and TE, the Lions might have a shot of having an explosive offense in the near future.
9. Redskins- Dez Bryant WR, Oklahoma State
The Redskins drafted two wide receivers early in the 2008 draft, hoping to find an explosive target opposite of Santana Moss. But both Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas are raw and injury prone. Antwaan Randle El is getting older and needs to be replaced in the near future. Bryant is a big, athletic receiver that knows how to get open and make people miss. He could be a big time target in coach Jim Zorn’s offensive scheme.
10. 49ers- Colt McCoy QB, Texas
McCoy is a much better NFL prospect than most evaluators give him credit for. He is a very accurate passer and is great at making plays outside the pocket. He should have a great senior season and do very well at the combine. He is an intelligent leader and just the type of player coach Mike Singletary wants running his offense.
11. Titans- Gerald McCoy DT, Okalahoma
The Titans will miss run stuffing specialist Albert Haynesworth even more than expected. McCoy probably won’t turn out to be a Defensive MVP caliber player, but he will provide the ability to rush the passer and stuff running lanes.
12. Jaguars- Arrelious Benn WR, Illinois
The Jaguars have been in desperate need of a playmaking wide out since Jimmy Smith. An aging Torry Holt should provide an improvement for the mean time, but the team could really use a big athletic target like Benn. He is an explosive player that might be a little raw, but has the talent to be a big time player at the next level.
13. Chiefs- Jahvid Best RB, Cal
Best is a blazer that can take it the distance every time he touches the ball. The Chiefs will probably look to dump the unhappy Larry Johnson either this year or next. Best is a reliable receiver out of the back field and would be a much needed offensive weapon for Todd Haley’s new offense.
14. Cowboys- Ndamukong Suh DT, Nebraska
Who really knows what Jerry Jones is going to do in the first round? He may go after a QB if Romo fails to win the 2010 Super Bowl. Suh is a massive force in the middle, and will command a double team all of 2009. He could be a big time force next to DeMarcus Ware.
15. Jets- Greg Hardy DE, Ole Miss
After realizing that 2008 first rounder Vernon Gholston won’t provide a consistent pass rush the NFL, the Jets will be forced to use another first round pick on a DE that is capable of getting to the QB. Hardy has proven he is a dominating force when healthy. Unlike Gholston, he has skills, not just muscles.
16. Packers- Jermaine Gresham TE, Oklahoma
Gresham would have been the first tight end off the board in 2009, so 2010 should be no different. He is an athletic tight end that understands what needs to be done to get open. He is a little raw in his route running, but one more year in college should fix that.
17. Dolphins- Rolondo McClain OLB, Alabama
When looking at the Dolphins roster it is surprisingly stacked at just about every position. I feel they could use a physical player across from Joey Porter. McClain is a solid tackler and shows ability to make plays in the back field.
18. Vikings- Tim Tebow QB, Florida
Why not stir up some more controversy in Minnesota? Even if Brett Farve ends up signing with the Vikings, he won’t be there long. Most talent evaluators think Tim Tebow is nothing more than a great college QB, but I think there are NFL teams that feel like me and think this guy is special. Yes he plays in a "college" system. And yes he has ridiculous running stats, but he is a very good passer and has an extremely underrated throwing arm. He isn’t a good fit for every NFL offense, but he could be very successful in an offense like Minnesota’s, that is based on handing off to Adrian Peterson and throwing short passes. He will rise on draft boards after another great college season and his eye popping numbers at the combine. This guy is going to go down as the best college player of all-time and he will succeed at the next level. If Josh Freeman landed in the first round, there is no question Tebow should.
19. Bills- C.J. Spiller RB, Clemson
Spiller is a dynamic player. He is a guy that needs the ball in creative ways, that get him in space and in one on one situations. He would be a great compliment to Marshawn Lynch. The Bills would also love to have him as the primary kick return, since Leodis McKelvin is going to be asked to be the teams number one corner soon. The Bills have playmakers, and added one more that can do a little of everything wouldn’t hurt.
20. Falcons- Sean Weatherspoon OLB, Missouri
Weatherspoon is a tackling machine and has the potential to be a big time playmaker in the NFL. The Falcons have a strong defense, and adding a player like Weatherspoon will make everyone else around him even better.
21. Texans- Myron Lewis CB, Vanderbilt
Much like 2009, the 2010 draft class isn’t loaded with elite talent at the cornerback position. Lewis is an interesting prospect at 6’2, 210 pounds. Some question if Lewis should stay at corner or move to safety. At corner he is a physical player that has the strength to overpower most receivers in man. The Texans have a dynamic offense, a strong defensive line and solid young linebacking corps. Now it’s time to address the secondary.
22. Cardinals- George Selvie DE, South Florida
Selvie’s stock has dropped drastically in two years, mainly due to his inability to produce because of double and triple teams. He is a very talented player and should still remain a first round prospect despite his production decline. The Cardinals could use a player that can rush the passer and with good players around him, Selvie should take advantage of being blocked by only one player.
23. Ravens- Marshawn Gilyard WR, Cincinnati
Gilyard is an athletic, sure handed receiver. He had a very good 2008 season, and should become more nationally recognized in 2009. The Ravens need to add another weapon on the outside. Derrick Mason is still productive, but his days are numbered.
24. 49ers (from Carolina) - Sergio Kindle OLB, Texas
Kindle could provide a strong side backer that has the ability to rush the passer. He is an interesting prospect that scouts would like to see play more consistent this season. There are some off the field issues that could easily knock him out of the first round.
25. Colts- Brandon LaFell WR, LSU
Many feel Anthony Gonzalez is going to be the one to fill the void left by Marvin Harrison. I feel Gonzalez is a good player that hasn’t come close to reaching his full potential, but needs to remain in the slot to best utilize his skills. That means Indy must find a player that can play on the outside, opposite of Reggie Wayne and take advantage of single coverage. LaFell is a good route runner and shows ability to gain yards after the catch.
26. Saints- Joe Haden CB, Florida
Haden is a great athlete that just needs to be a bit more physical. The Saints have added much needed help on the defensive side. Another solid young corner is exactly what this team needs.
27. Chargers- Jon Dwyer RB, Georgia Tech
I’m one that feels LT still has good mileage left in him, but if not Dwyer would be a great pick for San Diego. He has great speed for his 230 pound frame. He runs hard between the tackles and can go the distance anytime he touches the ball.
28. Broncos- Jevan Snead QB, Ole Miss
The Denver front office is acting like they have their franchise quarter back in Kyle Orton. It won’t take long for them to think otherwise once the season starts. Orton is a game manager, not a playmaker. Denver needs a strong armed signal caller that can get the ball to its explosive receiving combo. Snead showed good ability during 2008 season, and with a strong pro day and a good combine he could make a run to be the first QB off the board. If he falls, Denver will be happy to take him
29. Steelers- Trent Williams OT, Oklahoma
Williams must be more impressive than Phil Loadholt and Duke Robinson were in their final year and combine to land in the first round. He is a very good player, but benefits greatly from playing in Oklahoma’s spread, where the linemen often have wide splits. The Steelers can pretty much draft any position they want, and the player will more than likely be a back-up for the first few years.
30. Eagles- Jerry Hughes DE, TCU
The Eagles added some weapons for Donovan McNabb in the 2009 draft, so I expect them to go defense first in the 2010 draft. Hughes is a gifted pass rusher that creates a lot of havoc in the backfield for opposing teams.
31. Giants- Trevard Lindley CB, Kentucky
The Giants are another team that is hard to pick a position of need. They are usually in a position to pick the best player available. Lindley is very quick and athletic. He is the first corner on most evaluator’s boards, but I like more complete corners. Lindley is not a very strong tackler and will be run at all game if he doesn’t become more physical in run support.
32. Patriots- Alterraun Verner CB, UCLA
I feel safe saying you won’t see Verner on any other first round mock drafts. I like his blend of physical play and athletic ability. He is best fitted for a zone scheme. He isn’t blazing fast, but has great instincts and quickness. The Pats drafted Darius Butler, an extremely athletic corner in 2009. Butler should be a very good player for the Pats, but they will need a replacement for Shawn Springs at the end of the year.
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If Suh is there when the Jags pick, he'll be the pick
Gene Smith isn’t a fan of taking WRs in the first round
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by FSBlueApocalypse on Jul 13, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beat me to it
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by Bestjagfan on Jul 13, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How are the Browns the worst team?
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 13, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he is just saying they might be considering their team
I Have Spoken.
by The_Fan on Jul 13, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because they are much better than some teams
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 16, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about "much" better
They still aren’t very good,
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 18, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suh and Dwyer will go higher anyway so overall awful mock
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 13, 2009 5:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you don't like this guy do you
I Have Spoken.
by The_Fan on Jul 13, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brady Quinn is far from a Beast
I find these comments very surprising. When I was working on my mock I figured there would be several picks that could spark disagreeing comments or debates. No one has mentioned anything about Bradford, Tebow, McCoy, Spiller, or Verner. Instead people are disagreeing with Eric Berry and Ndamukong Suh.
Oh and the occasional homer disagreeing comments have sparked a huge uproar amongst the Browns, Broncos, and Cowboys fans. None of your teams made the playoffs last season and everyone lost a Pro-Bowler this offseason. You fans better check back to reality or you guys are in for a long disappointing 2009 season.
Sorry for hating on everyone’s squad…there can only be one team that picks at 32.
I put my team at 13, because I’m not a homer.
by MBoz126 on Jul 18, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but we all know what happens
when the Gints play the Patriots in the SB. They will not get payback, not never.
I would argue against Bradford, but unfortunately (well, fortunately for my Gints, they aren’t going to pick a QB) teams are gonna look at his production and overall he seems like a legit QB prospect.
But he’s a system guy, so I just see him going the way of Vince Young and Alex Smith. I guess if he succeeds then the system QB guys will still be drafted high, but if he fails then you’re gonna see it fazed out cuz no big time QB will go to a program that uses it cuz it doesn’t prepare you for the NFL.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 18, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well losing winslow wont hurt us much. He was always hurt and couldnt block at all. And thankfully we got rid of Crennel,picked up some depth in FA, and (IMO) did good in the draft.
I expect the Browns to pick from 10-15. I see your Cheifs being 7-10.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 19, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I said your Cheifs being 7-10, I meant that I think that is where they will pick in the draft.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 19, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broncos.
Why would Denver ever “need [emphasis mine] a strong armed signal caller that can get the ball to its explosive receiving combo”? Look at where McDaniels is coming from and you’ll see a couple of draft day afterthoughts playing at a Pro Bowl level at worst and a historically legendary one at best, thanks in large part to the talent around them and the scheme employed. Not only is McDaniels invested in Kyle Orton in the short term, but he quietly got his long term man in last year’s sixth round (Tom Brandstater out of Fresno State). Here’s a fun experiment for you to try: compare Orton’s numbers while healthy through the first nine weeks of last year to Jay Cutler’s during that same span… you’ll be surprised!
Seriously though, I don’t blame you for this because just about every media outlet of any type is so absurdly down on the Broncos. That said, I ask that you take a moment to actually look beneath the surface. Consider that the Broncos offense were 16th in QB rating and 16th in scoring last season, so it’s not like losing Jay Cutler will make a unit that is otherwise augmented or intact across the board. The handful of effective defenders on last year’s squad are still around, more experienced and healthier. Every single new guy can be looked upon as an improvement over the guy whose place on the roster they’re taking.
Bottom line: I’d be surprised if they’re the 5th worst team in pro football and I’d be shocked if they used their first round pick on a QB for all the reasons stated above. Thanks for the effort and I hope you take this under consideration in the future. Oh, I think they’ll go 8-8 give or take a game and draft a nice front seven guy for the 3-4.
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by ejruiz on Jul 13, 2009 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Its funny that you think Orton is as good as cutler. You made my day. Haha
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 13, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.
You need to quit playing Madden, watching highlight reels and listening to ESPN’s talking heads. Jay Cutler may well be the most gifted QB in the league, but he’s never gotten as much out of that as people like to pretend that he has. Like I said, Orton outperformed him through more than half the season last year when he was healthy.
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by ejruiz on Jul 13, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Orton was your QB last year, The Browns vs. Broncos game wouldnt have even been close.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 14, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
Well, if I had remembered that, then I wouldn’t have said anaything! Maybe you should take a look at sample size and get back to me. How about the 8 games last years where he sported a QB rating no higher than 78? You know, the ones where he had 8 TD and 13 INT? For all the highlight reels plays, he had just as many boneheaded plays. For all the games he supposedly won for us, he had just as many you could argue as well that he cost us. This is why he was an average QB, at least in terms of rating, scoring offense and record last year. Again, he has all the tools, but too few of the skills.
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by ejruiz on Jul 14, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You probably also think that Andra Davis is a good linebacker.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 15, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Really.
I think he’ll provide some veteran experience in the 3-4 for our more talented inside linebackers to learn from. With guys like Spencer Larsen probably pushing him for the starting spot besides D.J. Williams inside, I’m not sure he’ll get all that much playing time as the season progresses.
That said, glad to see you’ve finally given up on your rather hollow argument for Jay Cutler.
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by ejruiz on Jul 15, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand by my Cutler opinion but I’m tired of arguing about it because there is no point.
But anyway, Davis is a BAD linebacker, just to warn you.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 15, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All Davis is being asked to do is to be a TED blocker
Aside from that I don’t want him to do anything besides destroy opposing fullbacks. It appears that’s all he’s being asked.
by studbucket on Jul 23, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well i was just warning you that he is defineatly sub-par.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 23, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like you said
I don’t think Bradford will go so high
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by The_Fan on Jul 13, 2009 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
The Lions aren’t going to improve 7 spots, they only added a few defenseive players and have Cullpepper starting
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by The_Fan on Jul 13, 2009 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wrong spelling of "sense" on the Raiders pick.
/spelling Nazi
It would suck, as a Gators and Bears fan, to see Tebow go to the Vikings the year after they take Percy. And I would feel sorry for Spikes if he gets drafted by the Raiders – such a promising prospect.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Jul 13, 2009 7:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't agree with the analysis of Anthony Gonzalez
he was playing on the outside for most of 2007 (after Marvin Harrison went down injured week 5) and they moved Reggie Wayne to the slot to keep Gonzalez outside pretty often in ‘08. He’s been tremendously efficient in his limited playing time (caught 72% of the passes thrown to him, while running routes at league average depth, with a bit better than average YAC).
The Colts needs are hard to pin down right now so WR isn’t out of the question if Garcon/Collie/Hall flop, but I think OT and CB are much more likely right now.
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by shake n bake on Jul 13, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd be happy with Selvie
We need some edge pass rushers and he seems to fit the bill.
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by Bezekira on Jul 14, 2009 8:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why in the world
would the bucs take Eric Berry at 2? They don’t need safeties unless sabby or tanard fails us this year and phillips is successfully a WLB. If they draft for need, they will draft an OLB or a DT, maybe even a DE.
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 14, 2009 2:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cuz he is possibly the most talented player in the draft
those 2 you mention are solid of course, but Berry might be the next Ronny Lott.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 16, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But this is not the MLB
You don’t draft for talent, you draft for need and therefore unless Berry switches to a CB or a LB. I don’t think that there is a reason to justify your needs.
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 16, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
cuz when the Viking drafted Adrian Peterson, with 1000 yard rusher Chester Taylor on the team, that didn’t make any sense right?
Eric Berry may end up being the FIRST pick in the draft, he’s THAT good.
Sabby Piscatelli and tanard Jackson are solid players. But they are not capable of becoming the next Ronny Lott…..I guess I just repeated that.
What does MLB have to do with this? In MLB if a player is athletic enough, a player can eventually player any of the 9 positions on the diamond, see Martin, Russel (he was SS, 3B, no plays catcher very well).
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 16, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, He's good
but this is the bucs and unless i am wrong why would you replace already solid players?
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 16, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Actually, you do replace solid players with future stars.
Obviously you people are on the same thinking level as Carl Peterson (former chiefs GM). If you build a team of "solid players" you will have a decent team, but if you want a Super Bowl contender you go after the "stars".
Berry is going to be the best player in the 2010 draft. Comparing him to Sabby Piscitelli in 3 years will be laughable…..much like most of these comments .
PS. Keep up the good work Bradshaw !!
by MBoz126 on Jul 17, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But what if those future "stars"
fail you, you paid 50 million- (figuratively) for a guy who failed you and the team? Really, want to take that risk when you have solid players already playing well. Yeah, let’s go with that.
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 17, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go with what? Who's playing well?
First of all, Sabby might not even start next year.(even after his eye popping 40 tackles and 1 interception season). Yeah, the guy has good size and speed, but he is replaceable.
Second, Tanard Jackson has the talent to be a "good" player, but his 2008 play was inconsistent and far from elite.
You dont replace Bob Sanders but Sabby Piscitelli?? give me a break
by MBoz126 on Jul 18, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secondly
Safety is not an important position in the way Jim bates defense works- The big question is can he play man to man and blitz consistently?
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 19, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stick to Baseball
Safety is quickly becoming on of the most important positions in the NFL.
For any defensive.
Your "big question" is actually "TWO" of the things that separate Berry from the other safeties in the nation…He was a All-SEC corner as a true freshman.(which means he can cover).
And he had 3 sacks last season.(which means he can blitz).
You obviously have never seen the guy play…. so stop trying to make a debate over a player you know nothing about.
Your arguments are unintelligent and becoming repeated.
by MBoz126 on Jul 19, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still draft
a guy like Berry.
Actually since you have guys like Jackson and Piscatelli, it makes even more sense.
Since they are both solid, they can man the position until Berry’s ready. Then if Berry comes in and turns out to be a pile, then you still have other players to replace him.
Solid backups for your secondary are always welcome too. You want your secondary fresh.
And since no one knows if Berry will be Bob Sanders, if he just so happens to be, then again you have solid players so your D should miss too much of a beat.
Berry is a special talent. You don’t just pass up on him, unless of course there are other special talents in teh draft (which if you ARE picking #2 in this draft, there might be)
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 18, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We aren't picking #2 in the draft
I can guarantee that.
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 19, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You my friend
have no clue about the bucs, do you?
Come ON Pat the Bust, Navi can not have more homers than you
by Some other guy who does not care on Jul 20, 2009 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We all have a clue about the Bucs…and we’re all positive that they will suck.
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by MBoz126 on Jul 20, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bucs
could easily be the worst team in the league think about a new QB with very little talent Mcnown, experience Freeman or talent leftwich a solid oline, and decnt RB’s but the defense will be leaderless and inept also the division is brutal
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by BRIANMULHALL on Jul 22, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ouch
Not much love for the Cowboys
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by nicholas.rodriguez on Jul 16, 2009 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not saying they should but they shouldn't be that much worse than they are now
by quincyyyyy on Jul 17, 2009 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how so?
not much is made of losing Too, but aside from his bitching and antics he was your most productive WR.
Roy Williams is ass so they could and should be worse.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 18, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
T.O. was the most productive WR becuase he was thrown at on every play
Our defense should be better. Sensebaugh and Brooking should be upgrades at their respective positions and we moved sideways exchanging Canty for Olshansky.
But with T.O. off the field it should open up the offense to Romo. He doesn’t have to worry about making a certain WR happy on every play.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 20, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
get a clue MBoz
No way the Cowboys get the 14th pick, absolutely no way. 20th at worse.
In Romo we Trust
by Terry on Jul 17, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Broncos at 28?
They have no defense and sold away their best asset on offense. Riiiiiiiiiiight. You know I was a bit annoyed when you put Cowboys at 14, but then I saw your Broncos ranking and I realized you must be smoking something.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 17, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
quincyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
The Broncos have the Bears pick….I think the Bears will be at 28….but thanks for throwing in the classic 7th grade “smoking something” line.
PS. you do know the Cowboys lost their best asset on offense.Riiiiiiight??
by MBoz126 on Jul 17, 2009 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
T.O. is our best asset and not Demarcus Ware?
T.O. was one of the most targeted if not the most targeted WR in the league and he only got a 1050 yards. He is old and regressing. He can’t beat the jam off the line anymore. Demarcus Ware got 20 sacks last season after being consistently double teamed. Geez you really must BE SMOKING SOMETHING.
Anyhow with T.O. off the team Romo should be more free to throw to the open receiver rather than forcing the ball to T.O. to keep him happy.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 18, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad there ARE NO OPEN WR now.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 18, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah because Roy Williams can't get open
sure…
And for someone who is a fan of the Giants, whom has no proven talent at the WR position, I wouldn’t be talking.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 18, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braylon is much better than Roy. Duh
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am assuming you are being sarcastic
by quincyyyyy on Jul 20, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Roy had under 500 yards last year and only two touchdowns. You are aware of that right?
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are aware that he was playing with a foot injury?
Naw that would mean you actually had a clue about what you were talking about.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 20, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Braylon had 3rd and 4th string QBs (Dorsey and Gradikowski) throwing to him a lot of last year because of our injuries at QB.
Oh yeah and Braylon also got injured last year
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having a twisted ankle and plantar fascitis are two different things
Roy had that injury for most of the games he had with the Cowboys. It’s not even close.
Plus Roy had 67 passes and Edwards had 138. That means Edwards had two times more opportunities than Roy. Get a clue.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2009 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are starting to help my argument. Its a good thing to get targeted more.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he got targetted more because he was the primary reciever
Roy came in during the middle of the year. Started off as the third reciever and eventually played third fiddle behind T.O. and Witten because he didn’t have any chemistry with Romo.
Edwards was the primary reciever all year, not because he was so good, but because the rest of the Browns receiving corps. is sub par. In fact Edwards is the only WR that had more than 125 passes and less than a thousand yards. Only someone as obtuse as you would think those numbers helps your argument.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me rephrase myself the rest of the Browns receiver corps is subpar aside from Kellen Winslow
but he is a TE and the number 1 WR will usually be the primary target even with a very good receiving TE.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love your insults. Obtuse. Hahahaha
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id rather have young
rook to 3rd year WR trying to prove themselves than a guy who has the brains of TO but the talent of Javon Walker.
Cowboys lost more with Owens than the Giants lost with Plax. Remember that.
by FreeBradshaw on Jul 21, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No we didn't
T.O. is not that good anymore. He will be 36 by the end of this year. He is old and losing it.
And we still have Roy Williams and Jason Witten. Say what you want about Roy but he is a starting receiver. You guys don’t have a single starting receiver on your roster. You have a bunch of 3rd and 4th recievers and no legitimate threat at TE. You guys are far worse off without Plaxico.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 22, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And we have Martellus Bennett at TE
we’ll have the best TE duo in the league.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 22, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice reading comprehesion
you do know the Cowboys lost their best asset on offense.
That's big talk for a little guy,
but I'm walkin' without reply.
-Lil Wayne "Mr. Postman"
by shake n bake on Jul 18, 2009 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even on offense
Romo is still more valuable than T.O. I think you would be hard pressed to find a team that wouldn’t value Romo more than T.O.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 18, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
quincyyyyy
Your right!! Demarcus Ware should provide the deep threat and possession receiving Romo and the Cowboys need.
by MBoz126 on Jul 18, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he wouldn't be manhandled off the line
T.O. is not nearly as good as he was. Romo and even Felix Jones are more valuable than T.O.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 18, 2009 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You all are dumb for not at least trading him. TO still has some value
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you that dumb to think we didn't try?
Do you think our front office hasn’t thought about the obvious option of trading him? People don’t trade for players that are going to get cut.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 20, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well maybe since you come up with this innovative notion of trading players
something that the Cowboys front office is apparently unaware of, maybe you should write a letter to Jerry Jones telling him that he doesn’t have to cut players anymore, he can trade them.
Seriously though, are you really that retarded to believe that the Cowboys didn’t try to trade T.O.? Why the eff do you think Jerry was did everything possible to make it seem like T.O. was going to be back next season. And if T.O. was such a hot commodity why is he in Buffalo now, the Siberia of the NFL? Get a clue.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 20, 2009 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How cute you can't come up with a legitimate response
you must be mentally challenged. Now I feel bad.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you still not smart. jus saying
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Using ad hominmens is usually the first sign of a failing argument
you know that your original statement was ignorant, so you, childishly, began calling me stupid. You are obviously out of your league. Thanks for playing.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I love when the Cowboys play against the Browns
since our win percentage against your miserable franchise is 61%.
by quincyyyyy on Jul 21, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m ignoring the order as everyone should because it’s too early to know. I realize everyfan thinks their team should be in the super bowl. Without a true order and knowing team needs (injuries, etc.) I do think DL will dominate the top 10 with Dunlap, McCoy, Suh, Cody, and possibaly Hardy sneaking in there.
Moving on to the prospects I can not wait for the season to start for the Berry/Mays debate it will be very interesting and entertaining as long as no injuries happen. With that said I almost want to guarentee that the Raiders trade up for Mays if the rumors of a sub 4.2 40 is true that might give Al Davis a heart attack (if their true). While I do like Dunlap it’s hard for me to say #1 overall but hey let the season start. I think McCoy is a top 10 talent so I could see him go higher (again team needs?) and I would not be surprised to see Arrelious Benn (could be the homer in me) battle Dez Bryant for #1 WR taken. I think a team like the Packers could show some interest in a George Selvie with them switching to a 3-4.
Love the Verner love and just not as high as you are on Gilyard and Dwyer. Also do you not think Marvin Austin of North Carolina is a 1st rounder or just not coming out?
Nice job man.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Jul 19, 2009 4:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously there are many arguments that can easily be made about my 2010 NFL Mock draft. I am a NFL draft nut and like to look into the future. Predicting what will happen in 2010 is close to impossible. Trust me I am well aware that every single one of my predictions is going to be wrong one way or the other.
To me there is no debate when it comes to Mays vs. Berry. If the team wants a physically gifted freak, they go with Mays…If they want a playmaker that can do everything, they go with Berry….Berry is a far better player.
When it comes down to it…Picking Mays over Berry would be a huge mistake.
But I won’t be surprised if a team like Oakland does.
I am a little high on Gilyard….in reality he is probably a 2nd round talent, but I was very impressed with his ability to get open and elude tacklers. I watched about 4 or 5 Cincy games last year, he was productive in all. Since it’s my first mock I stuck him in there.(because of his playmaking ability.)
I didn’t see Marvin Austin play much last year, and I am not one to evaluate players I am unfamiliar with.
I like Selvie a lot too. If he didn’t face a double or triple team every play he might be one of the most dominating players in college football.
I agree that the DL is the best group of prospects. The reason I like Dunalp so high is because of his size, athletic ability, and the attention he will receive next year (playing for the best team in college football.) The rest of the group is full of some great talent at both the DT and DE spots. It will be very interesting to see who separates themselves from the extremely talented group.
by MBoz126 on Jul 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you about berry vs. mays.
I dont know about Dunlap as a 3-4 end because I think he is more of a Julius Peppers guy. Most 3-4 ends play 4-3 DT in college.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
While I agree I would rather have Eric Berry, I just believe it will make for good conversation over the year there will be plenty that like Mays (Al Davis). I do think Gilyard can move up to round 1 the WR class does not look that great with Benn, Bryant, WIlliams and LaFell looking like the only 1st rounders (at this point) . Gilyard could definately move up there. Hopefully you will see some Marvin Austin this year, I have him behind Suh, McCoy, and Cody. He is seeing alot of double teams as well.
Look forward to talking to you throughout the season now that I have found this site.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Jul 20, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’ve read a lot about Austin, and it sounds like he is going to be a top prospect come draft time.
I’m really looking forward to working with SB Nation. It sounds like you really know your stuff, so feel free to comment on anything. (My feelings won’t be hurt). I will be posting several Mocks, scouting reports, and various articles throughout the season.
It's almost like we play a kid's game for a king's ransom"
Sean Taylor
by MBoz126 on Jul 20, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dolphins could very well draft a NT.
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
by Patssuck456 on Jul 19, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
true
"It's almost like we play a kid's game for a king's ransom"
Sean Taylor
by MBoz126 on Jul 20, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they would pick any Defensive Line position because that seems like the weakest part of there team.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well when it comes to DEs it all depends on how Merling and Lngford develop
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 23, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Langford
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
by Patssuck456 on Jul 23, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont think Spiller will go to the Bills because Fred Jackson and Dominic Rhodes are good backups.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But I think Spiller would add a dimension to their offense that none of their current backs bring. Plus Spiller has the ability to line up in the slot and return kicks. He is electrifying in the open field. All of their backs are solid in between the tackle runners.
You’re right about the backs ups, but I think a player like him or Noel Devine (doesn’t have to be first round) would be a great addition to their offense.
It's almost like we play a kid's game for a king's ransom"
Sean Taylor
by MBoz126 on Jul 20, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it aint broke, dont use a first rounder for it.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mboz what is your email so I can talk to you there?
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mboz126@yahoo.com
It's almost like we play a kid's game for a king's ransom"
Sean Taylor
by MBoz126 on Jul 20, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would the Bills draft a running back? They have Lynch for another couple years minimum, Fred Jackson just signed a new contract, and Dominic Rhodes has a two year contract. The Bills running backs are all set. If they retain Dick Jauron into next year the Bills will either select a DE, LB, LT, or CB (if they lose McGee). You could also make a case for QB if Trent Edwards falls on his face. RB is the least of Buffalo’s worries.
BTW – If Buffalo picks 19th I’d be so happy. Not quite playoffs but still better.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 20, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Buffalo will pick 19th but if they do I think Trent Williams would be more logical than Spiller.
BTW my cousin is friends with Fred Jackson.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why did the Viks take AP when they had Taylor?
why did the Jags take MJD when they had Fred Taylor?
Why did the Cowboys take Felix when they had Barber?
Why did the Eagles take LeSean when they had Westbrook?
Why did the Colts take Brown when they had Addai?
why did the Raiders take McFadden when they had Fargas?
why did the Steelers take Mendenhall when they have Parker?
Why did the Saints take Bush when they had McAllister?
Why did the Panthers take Stewart when they have Williams?
Why did the Cards take Wells when they have Hightower?
The Bills have a solid starter in Lynch….they have two “back-ups”….they don’t have a blazer capable of doing the things CJ Spiller can…… It’s a mock…I think it would be a good fit
It's almost like we play a kid's game for a king's ransom"
Sean Taylor
by MBoz126 on Jul 20, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference is that Lynch is still young.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 20, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are missing my point completely.
I did not have the Bills selecting Spiller to replace Lynch…I put him there because "he would add a dimension to their offense that none of their current backs bring".
I know how old Lynch is and I know how good he is. He does not have 4.3 speed like Spiller, he doesn’t return kicks, and he doesn’t have the ability to lineup in the slot.
Fred Jackson and Dominic Rhodes are backups….they’ve been backups their entire careers. They offer good depth…that’s about it.
It's almost like we play a kid's game for a king's ransom"
Sean Taylor
by MBoz126 on Jul 20, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since RBs are easy to find in the rest of the draft, many people are against picking RBs in the 1st round.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And those kinds of speed backs can be found all over the draft.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 21, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Matt,
In my new mock I am having trouble deciding what player to give you. IF(key word here) Maybin ends up being switched to linebacker would you rather have Hardy or Buluga?
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 23, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybin will play DE...
unless Jauron gets fired and we bring in a 3-4 guy.
I assume Jauron stays and we pick a LT or LB. Maybe go DE again. CB is also a possibility at this point.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 29, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fred jackson
i think ur selling fred jackson short he is a great third dwon back because he can catch the ball very well …i think he had 37 catches in limited action and im not sure how good of a blocker he is but he also had 4.5 yards a carry and he going have a good year u’ll see how good he can be opening night …i think they have the kinda backs they need to get the job done maybe not as good as spiller but good and they have great returners already mckelvin and parrish
"The only yardstick for success our society has is being a champion. No one remembers anything else."
by BRIANMULHALL on Jul 22, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more point
While I don’t disagree w/ the logic, I don’t thing the Bills will do it b/c the organization was already burned by picking Mcgahee when they had Henry (who knew they would both be train wrecks?). Also, the Bills have SO many glaring needs that I don’t think they could withstand the PR hit of taking a RB when they have 3 quality backs under contract for at least 2 years.
by bluecollarbuffalo on Jul 24, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You miss my point...
All your examples are of teams with one guy who picked their second. The Bills are very happy with Lynch or Jackson starting. They are already two deep and have a good backup in Rhodes. They simply have much larger needs than a running back. You are right that they don’t have a blazer but a first round running back should be more than third on the depth chart, something Spiller would clearly be.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 21, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for helping me out matt
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and by the way do the Browns and Bills play again this year?
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am going to the game...
it’s in Buffalo this year.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 21, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a great game last year.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only wish it had ended differently.
Playing Realistic Optimist at Buffalo Rumblings since 2008. Fear can hold you prisoner. Hope can set you free.
by MattRichWarren on Jul 29, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Broncos.
Look, forget everything I’ve said about the Broncos and where you have them picking. Focus on what I said about the pick you have them making. How could McDaniels possibly justify picking a QB in the first round following the Cutler saga? At the QB position, he’s handpicked his current starter, fall-back option and long-term solution already. Unless you really think that losing Cutler makes us at least four wins worse and that Bowlen turns around and fires McD after a single season (paying two coaches to no longer be there and redirecting the franchise yet again) I just don’t see how Denver picks a QB in the first round. Look to the front seven on defense for further upgrades. That’s just my two cents.
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 20, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
To me it seems you put too much faith in a 6th round QB by saying “long-term solution”. What have you heard/read/saw that makes you think Brandstater is the future?
2000
168. Marc Bulger Saints
183. Spergon Wynn Browns
199. Tom Brady Patriots
202. Todd Husak Redskins
205. JaJuan Seider Chargers
2001
172. Josh Booty Seahawks
177. Josh Huepel Dolphins
2002
186. JT O’Sullivan Saints
205. Steve Bellisari Rams
2003
192. Drew Henson Texans
200. Brooks Bollinger Jets
201. Kliff Kingsbury Patriots
2004
185. Andy Hall Eagles
187. Josh Harris Ravens
193. Jim Sorgi Colts
201. Jeff Smoker Rams
2005
213. Derek Anderson Ravens
2006
193. Reggie McNeal Bengals
194. Bruce Gradkowski Bucs
2007
205. Jordan Palmer Redskins
2008.
186. Colt Brennan Redskins
198. Andre Woodson Giants
2009
174. Tom Brandstater Broncos
178. Mike Teel Seahawks
196. Keith Null Rams
201. Curtis Painter Colts
Not too many of those guys are/were “long-term solutions”
Do they draft a QB in round 1 who knows it depends on how Orton does this year. But to say you already have your “long-term solution” in form of a 6th rounder puzzles me.
Draft guru in training.
by tj.hendricks on Jul 21, 2009 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look At It This Way.
McDaniels is like that buddy of yours in your fantasy football league that doesn’t seem to value a certain position as much as the rest of you guys. So, while you all grab the RBs, he’s stockpiling elite talent at the other positions and somehow he’s always competative!
So far in his career, he got a whole nother level out of Tom Brady after becoming QB Coach and yet another – historic one, at that – as Offensive Coordinator. Oh, and he turned Matt Cassel (we all know that story) into a franchise QB. Add to that the fact that he shipped the posterchild for first round QBs out of town because of his attitude and you’ve got yourself a recipe that simply does not add up to a first round QB pick in 2010.
As for Brandstater, McDaniels also showed no fear in pulling the trigger on the guys he wanted in the draft where he wanted them. From Moreno at #12 through the UDFA, he took exactly who he wanted when he wanted them. Take a look at the kid and you’ll find a lot of similarities to his former students. I’m not saying it has to be that way, but it’s not a stretch to believe that McD thinks that way.
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 21, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still cant count on Bradanstater to be a long term solution
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“So far in his career, he got a whole nother level out of Tom Brady after becoming QB Coach and yet another – historic one, at that – as Offensive Coordinator. Oh, and he turned Matt Cassel (we all know that story) into a franchise QB.”
Randy Moss and Wes Welker had a lot more to do with that than McDaniels. Not saying he’s not a good offensive coordinator, but the Patriots offensive talent the last couple years has been ridiculous, and that’s what made Brady’s numbers jump and Cassel appear so good.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 1, 2009 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your coach wanted Matt Cassel…He landed Kyle Orton. Like I said before, Orton is a game manager, not a playmaker. The Bears did not trade Orton for Cutler. They gave up two first round picks, and a second round.…..Because the talent level of the two QB’s is not even comparable.
Coach McD wanted to keep Cutler after his attempt to trade for Cassel failed. He was forced to trade his best player, because of the failure on his part.
I can’t say his choice for a "fall back" option is extremely impressive either. Chris Simms? Who else would want him??? And who the hell is Tom Bradstater? Let’s not crown a 6th round pick just yet. How bout we see if the guy makes the team first.
So if your question is: Do I think the loss of Jay Cutler makes your team 4 games worse…Yes…I do.
I’m not impressed with any of Coach McD’s choices for the QB depth chart.
And I’m definitely not impressed with you sticking up for Kyle Orton like he is your little brother. If my team traded an exciting young Pro-Bowl, Franchise caliber, potential MVP type player I wouldn’t be too trilled with Orton, Simms, and Bradstater as his replacements.
"It's almost like we play a kid's game for a king's ransom"
Sean Taylor
by MBoz126 on Jul 21, 2009 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would say at least 5 games but they are in a weak conference.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your Logic Is Flawed.
If our coach wanted Matt Cassel as badly as everyone makes it out, we’d have Cassel. Coupled with a decent linebacker, Matt garnered a high second round pick in return; Cutler by himself netted us two first round picks, a third and Kyle Orton as his replacement. If we wanted Cassel, do you not think we could have roped in a third team into the trade to make it happen?
As I’ve said all along, Kyle Orton will never compare to Jay Cutler in terms of talent or tools. That said, neither does Matt Cassel and he seemed to do just fine in McD’s system. Moreover, despite all that he has, Cutler was still the 16th rated QB leading the league’s 16th ranked scoring offense. So, for whatever you think, that’s a thoroughly average QB that we’re losing there. Take a look at this and do with it what you wish:
Kyle Orton: 151 completions in 244 attempts (61.9%) for 1777 yards (11.8 YPC and 7.3 YPA) with 10 TD and 4 INT.
Jay Cutler: 187 completions in 300 attempts (62.3%) for 2169 yards (11.6 YPC and 7.2 YPA) with 15 TD and 10 INT.
That’s through the first nine games of last season, before Orton hurt his ankle and rushed back too soon to continue playing. Look past the shiny counting stats and into the rate ones and you’ll see something funny: despite having lesser physical tools, playing with a weaker supporting cast, in a far less dynamic system, playing a tougher schedule and less favorable weather at home, Orton basically matched Cutler through this stretch.
Like I said about Brandstater, he fits the Brady/Cassel mold and I expect that he’s McDaniels project for the future. Look, the point is that he’s not going to be looking for a QB in the first round next year regardless of what happens this year. He can’t, not after all that’s gone on.
Oh, and by the way, why so emotional in your response? You seem like the type that’s used to “winning” discussions by turning them into arguments via yelling and name-calling. So far, I’ve done nothing but provided my information from looking more closely at this team than you could possibly imagine. If you don’t want my input, then don’t post here like this.
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 21, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler had 5 more touchdowns and about 350 more yards. That IS a pretty big difference. Anyway Cutler isnt an average QB, so stop acting like he is.
What makes Brandstater fit the Brady Cassel mold? Being a late round pick?
And three team trades are definatly NOT easy
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's It.
He also had 56 more pass attempts and 6 more INT. Notice that they have virtually identical completion percentages, yards per catch and yards per attempt. That means that the only differences between the two were that Jay got to throw the ball more often and made more mistakes while doing so. By the way, how many teams are there in the NFL? 32. Jay Cutler was the 16th rated QB leading the 16th ranked scoring offense. That is the definition of average. Whether or not you want to believe the facts, that’s up to you. But I’m done arguing with you because you’re either too stupid or too stubborn to get it.
As for Brandstater, he’s roughly the same size as Brady and Cassel, reminded the man that tutored each of them to their best of them and that’s pretty much all I need to think what I do. Don’t pretend like you know anything about this particular topic. Look back at the scouting reports that made Cassel and Brady late round picks and maybe you’ll learn something.
It wouldn’t have to be a three team trade, per se, but the Broncos could have given the Pats their first round pick for Cassel and then traded Cutler for a pair of first rounders themselves. If we really wanted him that badly, he’d be ours. Every bit of logic oints in that direction.
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 21, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cutler was 3rd in yards and 7th in touchdowns. What a coincidence that your picture is the Simpsons, because you are defineatly a homer
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually.
You think that had something to do with the fact that he was 2nd in attempts? More opportunities would mean better counting stats (like yards and TD) even for the worst QBs in the leagues. I didn’t think this was that difficult of a concept to grasp…
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 21, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Teams throw it more often when they have a good QB
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 22, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not emotional or calling names. I think your comments are uninteresting and flat out wrong. I don’t agree with you on any of your statements. If you notice I didn’t respond to any of your previous posts, because I am not interested in debating Cutler vs. Orton. I clearly don’t think Orton is a great replacement for Cutler….You do…. I would rather debate the NFL draft, not Orton vs. Cutler….It’s a Mock….More than likely I won’t have Snead going to Denver on the next one.
How about you put a mock together…I saw your 2010 draft order…why didn’t you just post the 2009 order? Not much of a difference.
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by MBoz126 on Jul 21, 2009 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine.
The reason I haven’t published a mock of mine is because I actually bother to guage the opinions of those more knowledgable about certain teams other than my own. I’m glad you’ll avoid giving Denver a QB in the first round because it’s, um, uninteresting and flat out wrong. At least now I know you can learn.
As for my work, my order isn’t all that different from last year’s because I don’t think that much has changed; but it’s still different enough, I think. Also, I like how you take a shot at my order even though we have almost the exact same playoff field and top ten. I’ll have a mock up as soon as I feel reasonable about it and I hope I won’t be so defensive about it. Look, in the future, we can just ignore each other to our hearts content. Good luck as a blogger… you’ll need it.
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by ejruiz on Jul 21, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey mboz if you did a mock with the 09 order there will be more talk the picks and less about the order.
And ejruiz you really are getting annoying and stubborn. And Mboz is smarter anyway
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice.
I could care less what you think of my intelligence, just like I won’t stoop to that level and comment on yours. Funny how everyone that ever gets into an argument with you simply gets tired of trying to discuss anything with you…
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 21, 2009 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel the same way about you buddy
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 22, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice mock (where players are concerned).
I’m not sure about the team drafting order. I hate to be a homer, but the Seahawks did experience a historic amount of injuries. The worst since 1996 in fact.
I agree, Berry over Mays. I hope the Seahawks don’t take Mays, but Mays and Okung wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world. Berry and Gerald McCoy would be my best case scenario at this point (assuming Hasselbeck is injury free).
by LantermanC on Jul 21, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe you all should get both McCoys
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And maybe the Browns should get an actual good football player.
So, maybe, you know, they can score a touchdown every few weeks.
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by Fearless Frog on Jul 21, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude calm down. I said nothing bad about the seahawks at all, but if you want me to I can.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just a troll.
I’ll go back to under my bridge now.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 21, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be happy with that as well.
In fact that was my signature for a few weeks as soon as the 2009 draft ended.
by LantermanC on Jul 21, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is literally almost no chance the Seahawks are going to be so bad they'll be in the top 5 picks.
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by Fearless Frog on Jul 21, 2009 5:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really?
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not no chance
But fairly slim.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 1, 2009 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mile High Fan
I have no hard feeling towards you. I know you are a die hard Broncos fan, looking to throw your team sprit and flaunt your stats in anyone’s face that will respond.
You make a good point about listing to opinions of fans from other teams, but that’s not my style. I watch enough football, both on the college and NFL level to form my own opinions. It might not be the best method for creating a mock, but is 100% mine.
If I took the time to gather opinions and suggestions from each teams fans, I would have 20 teams picking from 20-32 and 12 picking from 15-19. Everyone of the people sharing their opinions on here feels their team will be better than they were last year. That’s not the case.
Thanks for the encouragement! Let me know if you need any ideas, opinions, or suggestions when you get to the Kansas City pick on your much anticipated 2010 Mock.
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by MBoz126 on Jul 21, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So what is your opinion of KC’s draft this year. I kind of think they reached big time on Jackson but I want to here what you have to say.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going to lie…I wasn’t jumping out of my seat when I heard "Tyson Jackson". I wanted Crabtree pretty bad. I was high on Jackson, but not top 5 high… BUT he is a dominating run stuffer and exactly what a 3-4 defense needs at end.
I wasn’t thrilled about any other pick either…but you know what? I have complete faith in Scott Pioli….I am so happy Carl Peterson is gone. We didn’t have a "sexy" draft, but we filled some holes and landed some key assets to the 3-4 D.
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand how a guy like Jackson goes from 2nd round guy to 3rd pick in a month
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 22, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sexy Drafts.
Isn’t it amazing how the best teams in the league never seem to have that homerun pick, at least not at the moment? All those guys do is draft quality guys throughout, rarely if ever truly blowing a pick. Pioli is going to be good for you guys.
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by ejruiz on Jul 22, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Browns also had a un “sexy” draft but I thought it was good
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 23, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MBoz126
I apologize for highjacking your mock draft thread with our little dust up. As I said on a previous attempt on this site, I think it takes some brass ones to post something like this at this point in time. It’s meant to be fun and I guess we should all take it less seriously.
I have my well-formed opinions about the Broncos and it’s no surprise to see that most vehemently disagree with it, so I should just brush it off until some games are played. I’ll take a closer look at your work and post my thoughts about the remainder of the draft. I do hope that you avoid giving Denver a QB in the future, though.
I noticed you gave your Chiefs an RB and I happen to think that’s a nice fit. If they weren’t able to snag him, would they reach for another RB or do you think they’d look elsewhere (if so, then where)? Thanks for any info regarding your team, as I will use your general efforts and the response to it to further inform myself.
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by ejruiz on Jul 21, 2009 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC
I happen to think this is LJ’s last year in KC. He wants out and Chiefs fans want him out. (kind of sad, cause I like him)
Jamal Charles is a nice compliment back that can do several things. I just don’t see him handling the work load.
Javid Best is an exciting player. He runs hard between the tackles, but has the burst to hit the sidelines. Anyone that hasn’t seen him needs to watch a Cal game next year. He runs similar to Chris Johnson.
I don’t think the Chiefs will reach for a back….. If I had to, I would put my money down on a DT or LB to replace Mike Vrabel or Zach Thomas.
But if I had my choice….you can probably guess…I’d trade up (if needed) and take Eric Berry
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Berry.
As much as I hate the Vols, I have to tip my hat to Eric Berry. I’m with you on Berry > Mays because I’m a fan of actual production over triangle numbers and highlights…
"A player who conjugates a verb in the first person singular cannot be part of the squad, he has to conjugate the verb in the first person plural. We. We want to conquer. We are going to conquer. Using the word 'I' when you're in a group makes things complicated." ~ Wanderley Luxemburgo, 1999
by ejruiz on Jul 22, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Best is the explosive player in the college football.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 22, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a quick question
The Panthers are yet again not in the 1st round (barring a later trade).
My question is… how strong is this draft at the top? Are they going to regret trading their pick to land Everette Brown?
It’ll probably cost them a shot at landing a QB like Bradford/McCoy/Snead (though I’m not certain HurFox would’ve gone that way anyways), but is the drop-off going to be big enough that not adding a talent until the 2nd round (for a 2nd straight season) will negatively impact the team in a big way?
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by UtesFan89 on Jul 21, 2009 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everette Brown was a very interesting prospect for me to evaluate. Honestly, I was not blown away with his play in the few games I saw him. Then I saw highlight reels where he looked like the next Dwight Freeney. (which happens but forced me to question his consistency).
I had him ranked as a mid to late first. I saw several mocks that had him in the top 10 and some that had him as high as three (to the Chiefs).
I think he could be a good fit for the Panthers D, but might need sometime to develop. I would like to see them draft a QB (soon). What Delhome did to that team in the playoffs was just sad to watch. It is mind-boggling to me that they are going to allow him to manage the offense again.
(I think Jeff Garcia would have been a great fit for you guys, but that’s a different story.)
The team is loaded with talent. With the running duo, a very strong line, Steve Smith, and a very tough D, the Panthers just need a player that is not going to throw the game away. (by turning the ball over 6 times).
I like the Panthers. They’re a fun team to watch. I can’t question their front office moves much, because they have built their team with strong draft picks and continue to add solid players each year. So if they feel Brown is worth a future first, they’re probably right.
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks.
Yeah I’m not really questioning the move (at that point in the draft, it probably made all the sense in the world)… though I did at the time, simply because they’re trading away 1st round picks like mad now, when the team really needs another QB (I don’t trust McCown & Moore as the back-ups, I don’t think) and potentially another solid WR alongside Smith (these 2nd/3rd round guys from USC aren’t cutting it).
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by UtesFan89 on Jul 22, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree another WR would be very helpful. I am surprised how useless Dwayne Jarrett has been. I’m not sure he will develop into a starter. He is slow off the line and has no chance of beating solid corners in man. I don’t blame the Panthers for drafting him. He was a stud in college and it seemed like he would be a great fit across from Smith.
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with the jets picking Hardy. I dont think Hardy would fit into a 34 very good.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 22, 2009 1:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I also think the same thing about McClain and the Dolphins
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 22, 2009 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I think McClain could be a solid OLB in the 3-4. He has the size and toughness
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But pass rush ability is most important to being a OLB in a 34.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 23, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be stoked if you guys are picking 4th and 5th!
Plus you guys get the most overrated player in Taylor Mays this would be a great draft from the 49ers standpoint except picking in the top 10 again. I’d also rather have Snead.
by Mullester on Jul 22, 2009 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good points
I am one that thinks Mays might be the most overrated player in the Nation (from an NFL draft standpoint). I’ve seen him play a lot the past two years. (Twice live at The Coliseum). He looks awesome physically, but I never see the big plays I want to from him. He makes some big hits, but doesn’t fly around when the ball is in the air…He does have the “look” and speed NFL scouts love…His combine is going to be crazy good.
I also agree with the 49ers picking Snead. I think he might make a solid run as the top QB in the 2010 draft….49ers could surprise next year, in a weak NFC West.
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think think your as off as some here are saying.
If Brady is actually healed from his surgery I also (unfortunately) would pick them to win this year. I of course being a niner fan think they could win the division this year but so could the seahawks or the cardinals.
by Mullester on Jul 22, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Taylor doesnt get INTs and he seems to struggle in coverage.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 23, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seahawks back to back picks at 4 and 5?
Yeah, ok. In the bizarro world in which this actually happens, look for them to grab a QB, not a safety.
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by Wayward Llama on Jul 22, 2009 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
QB will be a top priority for the Seahawks….you’re right…would be very bizarre
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by MBoz126 on Jul 22, 2009 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In that situation, how do you decide who to pick first?
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 23, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they would go QB.
Hasselbeck’s contract will be up after 2010 season, and the FO has repeatedly stated that they don’t like drafting OL in the first round. But, with Walter Jones entering his likely last season, they may not have a choice. I’m personally not sold on drafting a safety in the top five. There better be some damned good evidence that Taylor Mays is going to be a Sean Taylor, not a Roy Williams.
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by Wayward Llama on Jul 23, 2009 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No I mean if you have the 4th and 5th picks
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jul 23, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eric Berrry is the best safety prospect since Sean Taylor came out of The U
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by MBoz126 on Jul 24, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seahawks draft position
Seattle might have the 4th pick in the draft but it will be the pick from Denver. There is no way the Seahawks will finish with the 4th pick in the draft with their own selection. I look for the Seahawks to win their division in 2010.
by seer#1 on Aug 5, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
best draft i've seen so far
Finally, I’ve been searchin the web for a good draft and I finnally found one. Great job!
by johnshirey54 on Aug 30, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks John, I'll be posting my updated mock in the near future
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by MBoz126 on Aug 31, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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