Early Mock to mock, have at it

by BlueVol03 on Sep 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT Comment 67 comments

I edited the draft just a little. I have Bulaga that low only due to injuries and struggles so far this season. There's not a lot of huge needs for RBs early in the draft so I didn't place Dwyer with the thoughts he might stay at GT.

I know Jax fans don't want another WR but a few years ago, the Lions didn't either.

Don't crack on the draft order, it's only projections.

RD1
1	St. Louis Rams	Eric Berry	S	Tennessee
2	Kansas City Chiefs	Russell Okung	OT	Oklahoma State
3	Cleveland Browns	Brandon Spikes	LB	Florida
4	Tampa Bay Bucs	Ndamukong Suh	DT	Nebraska
5	Jacksonville Jaguars	Dez Bryant	WR	Oklahoma State
6	Detroit Lions	Carlos Dunlap	DE	Florida
7	Oakland Raiders	Taylor Mays	S	USC
8	Tennessee Titans	Eric Norwood	LB	South Carolina
9	Washington Redskins	Jahvid Best	RB	California
10	San Francisco 49ers (Car)	Sam Bradford	QB	Oklahoma
11	Denver Broncos (CHI)	Arrelious Benn	WR	Illinois
12	Seattle Seahawks	Jimmy Clausen	QB	Notre Dame
13	Seattle Seahawks (DEN)	Rolando McClain	LB	Alabama
14	Buffalo Bills	Trent Williams	OT	Oklahoma
15	San Francisco 49ers	Ciron Black	OT	LSU
16	Cincinnati Bengals	Gerald McCoy	DT	Oklahoma
17	Dallas Cowboys	Terrance Cody	DT	Alabama
18	Miami Dolphins	Joe Haden	CB	Florida
19	Atlanta Falcons	Sean Witherspoon	LB	Missouri
20	New York Jets	Damian Williams	WR	USC
21	Green Bay Packers	Sergio Kindle	LB	Texas
22	Pittsburgh Steelers	Rahim Moore	S	UCLA
23	Minnesota Vikings	Arthur Jones	DT	Syracuse
24	Houston Texans	Trevard Lindley	CB	Kentucky
25	Arizona Cardinals	Jerry Hughes	OLB	TCU
26	San Diego Chargers	Sergio Render	OG	Virginia Tech
27	New York Giants	CJ Spiller	RB	Clemson
28	New England Patriots	Bryan Bulaga	OT	Iowa
29	Philadelphia Eagles	Jermaine Gresham	TE	Oklahoma
30	Baltimore Ravens	Vince Oghobaase	DT	Duke
31	New Orleans Saints	Morgan Burnett	S	Georgia Tech
32	Indianapolis Colts	Charles Brown	OT	USC
R2
33	St. Louis Rams	Greg Hardy	DE	Ole Miss
34	Kansas City Chiefs	Brandon LaFell	WR	LSU
35	Cleveland Browns	Crezdon Butler	CB	Clemson
36	Tampa Bay Bucs	Javier Arenas	CB	Alabama
37	New England Patriots (JAX)	Sam Young	OT	Notre Dame
38	Detroit Lions	Brian Price	DT	UCLA
39	Oakland Raiders	Ras-I Dowling	CB	Virginia
40	New England Patriots (TN)	Dezmon Briscoe	WR	Kansas
41	Washington Redskins	Mike Johnson	OG	Alabama
42	Carolina Panthers	Colt McCoy	QB	Texas
43	Chicago Bears	Kris O'Dowd	C	USC
44	Seattle Seahawks	Zane Beadles	OT	Utah
45	Denver Broncos	Tim Tebow	QB	Florida
46	Buffalo Bills	Geno Atkins	DT	Georgia
47	San Francisco 49ers	Corey Wootton	DE	Northwestern
48	Cincinnati Bengals	Kyle Wilson	CB	Boise State
49	Dallas Cowboys	Adam Ulatoski	OT	Texas
50	Miami Dolphins	Ricky Sapp	OLB	Clemson
51	Kansas City Chiefs (ATL)	George Selvie	OLB	USF
52	New York Jets	CJ Wilson	DE	East Carolina
53	Green Bay Packers	Rodney Hudson	OG	Florida State
54	Pittsburgh Steelers	Evan Royster	RB	Penn State
55	Minnesota Vikings	Chris Scott	OT	Tennessee
56	Houston Texans	Myron Lewis	S	Vanderbilt
57	Arizona Cardinals	Zac Robinson	QB	Oklahoma State
58	San Diego Chargers	Eric Decker	WR	Minnesota
59	New York Giants	DeMarcus Granger	DT	Oklahoma
60	New England Patriots	Jared Odrick	DE	Penn State
61	Philadelphia Eagles	Syd'Quan Thompson	CB	California
62	Baltimore Ravens	Mardy Gilyard	WR	Cincinnati
63	New Orleans Saints	Dan Williams	DT	Tennessee
64	Indianapolis Colts	Joe Pawalek	LB	Baylor

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Draft Pick Trades

Seattle has Denver’s 2010 1st and Denver has Chicago’s 2010 1st.

Kansas City has Atlanta’s 2010 2nd round pick. I think New England has like 3 2nd round picks.

by chrisclark_dfw on Sep 25, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

adding to some errors

Colts T Charles Davis it’s Charles Brown, my man.

Draft guru in training.

by tj.hendricks on Sep 26, 2009 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lions 6th? Tennesee 8th?

Oh well, but Spikes wouldnt fit into a 3-4 very well, and the Browns have much bigger needs than ILB. Plus he isnt a top ten prospect IMO.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 25, 2009 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Also, CB is a position that Cleveland probably wont draft.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 25, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I also doubt Clausen will go pro uless he might be the no.1 overall pick.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 25, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

No Dwyer?

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 25, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Broncos.

I think it’s hillarious that you have the Bears and Seahawks finishing with worse records than my Broncos; a month ago, people thought I was ridiculous for insisting that Denver hadn’t fallen off as much as the media made it out to seem.

As for your picks, I’m not sure about McLain fitting into our 3-4 (or even our 5-2 as we currently play it) but your heart is in the right place. I could see them taking Cody or Kindle in the first based on scheme fit and pure talent. Gilyard is an intersting pick in the second, though I wonder about a guy like Benn in the first if they’re that interested in a WR.

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by ejruiz on Sep 26, 2009 3:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You really think the Broncos look good so far?

I’ll give you that they haven’t looked like one of the worst teams in the league, but they haven’t looked great either. They should have lost to the Bengals, the Browns are like a JV team, and the rest of the Broncos schedule is absolutely brutal. I’d still put them at 5-7 wins and I think both the Bears and Seahawks will end up with more wins (provided Hasselback doesn’t miss a large chunk of the season with his injury).

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 26, 2009 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn, I Just Lost My Reply!

I had this whole long post responding to your concerns, but the site freaked out and I lost it… anyway, I’ll give you the cliffnotes: the defense looks legit (look at what the Bengals and Browns offenses did against the Packers and Vikings respectively compared to what they managed against us), the offense is enough (not yet 100%, decent yardage still and zero turnovers) and the schedule looks more manageable now than it did in the preseason.

I said 7-9 before Week 1, but I’m feeling 9-7 now. Either way, they’ll out do the Rams (to win me our beat) and the Browns (sorry BQiB aka tRSS). I happen to think they’ll also finish better than the Bears (who look like the third best team in their division) but perhaps not the Seahawks (who could win the NFC West by default unless I was right about your Niners too). Heck, I might swing a perfect game in contraversial picks and score the Jags as a rebuilding team as well! Call me crazy – I’m used to it by now – but things are looking up for Denver.

P.S.: Yeah, I know, it’s too early for all this and I’ve certainly jinxed everything. Ha!

by ejruiz on Sep 26, 2009 6:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Broncos already beat the Browns.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Belichick related coaches just dont work for us. Weve tried Crennel, Mangini, and even Bellichick himself.

You all are lucky to get a servicable coach on the first try.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We'll see

The Rams look terrible, but it’s still only been 2 weeks. I’ll still take the under on 7 wins for the Broncos and the over on 7 wins for the Bears and Seahawks. The Niners are looking good so far, I might have been wrong about them.

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 27, 2009 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How 'Bout Them Broncos?!

by ejruiz on Sep 27, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How Bout them Browns

They suck

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 27, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HAHAHA!

Sorry man… there’s always next year!

by ejruiz on Sep 27, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ahh… Weve faced only undefeated teams. Maybe when we face an average team we’ll… Who am I kidding we just like the Lions, but they at least have a coach.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 27, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Its not a 5-2 unless you have three guys down as lineman. In a 3-4 the OLBs are usually on the LOS

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

*five guys down as lineman.

IDK what I was thinking there

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We Kinda Do.

Plenty of snaps, we’ll have the “OLB” on the line.

by ejruiz on Sep 26, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Does he have his hand down? or is he in LB stance?

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, that's what a 3-4 team is usually

Watch the NIners or Cowboys, their OLB’s do the same thing. It’s only a 5-2 if their hand is on the ground.

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 27, 2009 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you, thats the point I was getting at.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 27, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No problem.

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 28, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the picks for the Giants

Spiller and Granger are 2 nice players….
GIants definitely don’t need another RB and probably won’t get one in round 1 if they do draft one

But Spillier is a dynamic special teams player, which incredible speed. He’ls probably a BPA type, so you know what? I like it.

Then again……..If Brian Bulaga is right there…no sense is showing why other NFL GM’s are so dumb again (…if it happened of course) and grabbing the GIants other bookend of the future.

Granger would be nice, and I don’t know what the team’s thinking about Barry Cofield and FredRob.

Giants are a tought team to peg cuz they have starters and then have a ton of depth.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 26, 2009 7:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think Gresham would be a better than Spiller TBH.

By the way, Justin Tuck is one of my favorite NFL players. He is unblockable.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea..

really pissed on the Tuck injury. He’ll play this year, unlike the Phillips thing (another suck injury), but he probably won’t be the Tuck that has looked like a potential Strahan type player for the whole year.

As for Gresham, I think I told you before you change the SN, Gresham probably will be a great player, but simply the TE is not a priority anymore for the Giants with Coughlin at the helm.

Shockey was excellent, but taht was before Coughlin got there. Boss is a very good TE that probably could double his production on a team that uses the TE in the pass O more.

They also drafted Travis Beckum to play that role of a receiver/TE type, if they ever decide to use it.

Never say never with drafts, but I just don’t see them drafting a Gresham. Not only is there not even close to a need there, TE is not a 1st round priority I’d think with them. Especially since Bossman has turned out so good.

Spiller would be nice for special teams, and then again there’s no need to go that high for a ST player/ potential fill in at RB.

Id like Spller tho. But more logical is probably O-Line or Safety considering Phillips may never be the same.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 26, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well my Jaguars do not have a 2nd round pick currently, we traded it away.

And its practically assured we’ll not draft a WR in the first round, most likely a Defensive player. I think if we couldn’t get Suh or Eric Berry, I’d want Gerald Mccoy or we would trade way back into the later 1st, early second for more picks.

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by TheTealDeal on Sep 26, 2009 8:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Like OT/LB for Indy

but Bulaga to the Pats would make me cry.

The number of ways you can fool yourself is just amazing.

by shake n bake on Sep 26, 2009 1:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

If the Redskins are drafting #9 then the Campbell experiment is over and they need a QB. Miami might go after some one like Benn or Williams especially after the Monday night game.
Can Brandon Graham play NT or O-line? That is what we need more than anything I could see us get a good corner.
Baltimore needs secondary help or a WR.

by Steel in FL on Sep 26, 2009 2:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

You arent serious when you are asking if Brandon Graham can play NT or O-line, are you?

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

O-line no

NT yes.
never heard of Graham so I didn’t know his measurments

by Steel in FL on Sep 28, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He is only about 265(?) so he cant play NT.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 28, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not bad

But no way in hell, and I mean absolutely no way the Steelers pass on Bulaga at 22. I’d be surprised if Bulaga isn’t a top 15 pick. Plus Graham is way too small to play 3-4 DE and I doubt we’d use a 1st round pick to get an OLB, when we already have Harrison and Woodley.

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by HighSchoolSteeler on Sep 26, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Royster would be a good fit for you all, even though I hate the steelers. sorry

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not when AD would

struggle to run with our line.

by Steel in FL on Sep 29, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Do you have a clue about Seattle's linebackers?

The deepest and most talented unit on the team are the three (3!) linebackers.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 26, 2009 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How is Curry doing for you all?

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 26, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Up and down.

Sometimes he looks like a freak, sometimes he overpursues or gets juked in open space by taking a bad angle.

by LantermanC on Oct 2, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Curious: Do the bucs need a DT?

I think their DT’s are doing fine, I would rather have them after a DE/LB such as hardy or dunlap. Gaines adams is a bust for all i care.

WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
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by Some other guy who does not care on Sep 27, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yes

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 27, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And i am saying it in terms of

pass rush, you notice that the team has no pass rush whatsoever- gaines isn’t learning any new moves at all

WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
ALSO! NOW THE HEAD OF THE PUFFY-ROD BANDWAGON.

by Some other guy who does not care on Sep 27, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Dunlap is far from being a DE/LB hybrid.

by TheRealSlimShady on Sep 27, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not a hybrid per say,

I hear some scouts say he could switch to a DT with his size- sort of like a luis castillo type player.

WHOO, LUKE! LUKE! LUKE!
ALSO! NOW THE HEAD OF THE PUFFY-ROD BANDWAGON.

by Some other guy who does not care on Sep 27, 2009 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes

their starting DT are all old

by Steel in FL on Sep 28, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No QB until the 8th pick?

Who made this mock draft? It is awful.

by Slvrgun on Sep 27, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Well, it does say by BlueVol at the top…

And if it’s so awful, do one yourself and post it.

by Mocking Dan on Sep 27, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

well its 10th anyway...

and it could be right too. Bradford is a college star, but he just doesn’t seem like a real NFL QB and he could scare off teams.

Guys like Berry, Spikes and Suh are going to be good on Sundays. They are extremely talented and hustle guys too.

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Sep 29, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Based on the rankings of the teams I would think Cleveland at # 3 would take a QB.

Clausen or Bradford in my opinion.

The Rams or ’Skins might be in line for a QB if they finish that low too.

But overall I think this draft is pretty realistic. As real a it can be seven months ahead of the draft.

by NorthLeft12 on Oct 1, 2009 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like the Cowboys picks

but OT might be put on the burner for a WR unless Roy and the others pick up their game

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by nicholas.rodriguez on Sep 29, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rahim Moore

He’s only a sophmore… I don’t think he can come out yet.

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by MBoz126 on Sep 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That is correct. He didn’t redshirt.

by Mocking Dan on Sep 29, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

why would the dolphins draft a cb in the first round

Sean Smith has looked great so far. no picks :-( , but solid coverage all day :-)

Vontae Davis is already looking like a solid starter.

You dont draft a kid to have him sit the bench or trade him. Especially when we need a big time WR, a franchise NT, and new mlb

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DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
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by kewlguy on Oct 2, 2009 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

Your whole front 7 is pretty old

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 2, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Two 2nd year DEs

and we have potential starters in wake, and moses. JD Folsom will come into his own with a little coaching

Crowder is noy that old either, hes just getting into his prime. Solai, in his 3rd year i believe, is much improved from last season, if he continues this up he’ll be our starter next season. The reason we need to draft a NT early is because we need competition at the position. NT tackle is the most vital part of a 34

by kewlguy on Oct 2, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

What kind of pick do you think Shaun Rogers is worth

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 2, 2009 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

3 players are old on their front 7.

How does that = ‘whole front 7’?

What the f$%k is the internet?

by FreeBradshaw on Oct 3, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exageration is my friend

by TheRealSlimShady on Oct 3, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very impressive

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 3, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha.

Logic is pretty.

"I believed it, until it made sense. Then things changed."

by Tempestuous Binary on Oct 8, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

HUGHES?!?!?

Love it. Love it. Love it. Dude is a beast.

Be careful....to a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

by Bezekira on Oct 6, 2009 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I know Jax fans don't want another WR but a few years ago, the Lions didn't either.

That got a chuckle out of me. Well now Dez Byrant cannot be drafted by the Jaguars. Who do you think we’d draft then? (Hopefully its either a QB or some position on Defense.) And for the sake of arguement, I think we are good at WRs and have more pressing oncerns [For WRs, refer to Mike Sims-Walker]

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 8, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd also be interested in seeing if you would alter the draft positions more based on current records

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by TheTealDeal on Oct 8, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs