Check out the SB Nation mock draft
by Dan Kadar on Nov 16, 2010 1:49 PM EST
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PrintEvery week, the great Brian Galliford of Buffalo Rumblings is writing about the NFL Draft for SBNation.com. This is pretty great. This week he put together a mock draft. I had the easy part of offering my opinion. If anyone wants further opinion, I sent in a bit on each pick, so ask away.
If there were a theme to this mock, it's how far Washington quarterback Jake Locker will slide. I think where Brian put Locker will grab some attention.
Make sure to check it out and leave comments. We love comments, constructive or otherwise. While you're in the mocking mood, make sure to jump in on the MTD site mocks put together by CByers and TheAngelsColts. Or just make your own. Either way, just make sure a mock is part of your life.
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You note that you'd rather see the Bucs draft a pass-rusher than a corner
I’d certainly agree with that, but who would you draft at that spot? Cameron Jordan?
And can you make any sense of the fact that I’ve seen several mock drafts around the web that have the Bucs draft an OLB in the first round?
Given how this mock fell, yes, probably Jordan. He’s not prototypical pass rusher, but I still think DE is a better choice than corner.
Ya got me on the OLB mocking.
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Hey Dan,
Is it possible for Lewis or Bruce Carter to move to a 4-3 MLB in the future? If so, i guess that would work as the Buc’s pick.
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did you really agree with that Kerrigan pick to Denver?
And Ayers may not be the typical OLB, but he’s doing great there. The run D was much better with him then without him. I dont see OLB being the pick tho, especially this early. In that position, I see Denver going for Clayborn, he would be huge for the DL
It wasn’t as much as I agree with it. It was more that Denver is such a wild card.
I tend to agree that DL is a good choice, though.
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Kerrigan wouldnt play DL in the 3-4 tho.
He’d have to stand up. OLB IMO is our strongest position, as seen by BACKUP OLB with 3 sacks against KC.
Sure, they tend to pick unconventionally, but this one I just dont see.
No, I view Kerrigan as an OLB prospect. If I ever bother to do a mock, I’d probably give them a DE in round one.
I think, though, at some point Denver has to get a consistent pass rush from their linebackers. That’s what Kerrigan could do. Getting three sacks with a backup is great, but how much of an anomaly is that?
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I agree drafting an OLB would be nice for Denver, but with the 9th pick? Don’t see it happening. i would honestly say 3rd round earliest, as they have some holes that need to be addressed first
I know you didn't ask me
But S, TE, OL depth, ILB, and pass rushers.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Nov 16, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'd put
S, CB, TE, ILB, pass rusher but the DL takes the cake and I feel must be addressed at least in either the 2nd or the 1st, hopefully both
I disagree
Broncos fans have correctly picked the Moreno and Tebow picks well in advance of the drafts, so McDaniels isn’t entirely unpredictable.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Nov 16, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
People probably believe McD drafts crazy
because he drafts player he feels fits best for his system, not players who are just the most talented, ie: D Thom over Dez, Tebow over Clausen, etc.
I agree with you though, its not entirely unpredictable if one understands the type of players McD drafts, as we at MHR are starting to pick up on.
once you draft players on talent alone and dont take account your scheme
trouble starts, ie: Gholston, Benson, etc.
Settling for inferior talent to fit your system has its issues too, though
You’re compromising the talent level on your team and you end up with a team that’s outmatched.
Not to say system fit and personality don’t factor, but there’s a balance to be struck there.
Who isn't talented?
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by Sayre Bedinger on Nov 16, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
It's more a general comment than a specific indictment of any picks the Broncos have made
Though if I had to pick some, I’d go after Alphonso Smith and Tim Tebow, who I think were system picks that McDaniels loved for his team but were clearly inferior in terms of skills to other players.
I think you can also point to the Seahawks in previous years
As they looked at production and character over talent. They got a lot of hard-working football players, but there was a lack of talent on that team.
I totally disagree
Alphonso smith didn’t rank in the top five all time in picks in college because of his system. He is playing well for the Lions. I wish we had him back right now. Talented kid, was rated as a first round pick by most scouts, but fell b/c of his height and speed issues.
Tebow was a system guy, but he’s also immensely talented. Certainly capable of running McDaniels’ offense and being a top tier QB with his intangibles and physical skills.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Nov 18, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions
I said "talent alone"
Dez was the more talented, and I think he still is. But it was clear to us then, and to the rest of the league now, that a possession WR (although Dez is a little more then that) was not what we needed. Royal, Gaff can catch all of those. Lloyd’s our best deep threat now, and he should remain until otherwise, but D THOM is the future for that. Plus, D Thom is starting to emerge in the redzone as well, another thing we needed for the passing game.
by DBroncs1414 on Nov 16, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't talking about taking Thomas over Dez
Though characterizing Dez as a possession receiver or even ‘a little more than’ a possession receiver is ludicrous.
by Sander on Nov 17, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I said he's more than that
And I apologize for offending you if I said he wasn’t enough of one. I will stand by my point though that the deep threat ability and Red zone presence he brings is needed more then what Dez provides
Another DE for the Giants?
You can only have so many on your roster. Given that the last two #1 DEs are big tall guys, not sure little Houston fits their desired mold.
I think some of those picks are identified as “needs” because people are forgetting about recent draft picks that are still learning the pro game, and are not starting because of inexperience, not skill.
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I’m a robot.
Like I mentioned, I would have probably gone with an OT to NYG. Houston projects as an OLB. As least I think so, not sure what Brian had in mind there.
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I thought you were like Max Headroom
The draft is weak for tackles, but I notice none had been taken there yet. Don’t know if Will Beatty (2nd round 2009) gets a shot. Andrews held up well against Ware. I keep saying we should know more by Week 17.
yea
Houston is way too small to be drafted at DE for the GIants. I can see them goind DE if Kiwi is not brought back and/or maybe Osi bitches his way out of his contract and asks for me (not likely…).
And also, the DE will only be Bowers or Quinn.
The way this one played out, Aaron Williams, Mark Ingram, Brandon Burton, Bruce Carter or Steve Wisniewski (Wiz is highly unlikely tho, the GIants ain’t drafting a C in round one, much less one who weights less then 290lbs…) would be better picks
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as for OTs
I can kinda see Sherrod being an option there. I don’t know much about em and he kinda seems Will Beatty’ish, but he seems like a dude that will be a first rounder based on his athleticism.
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I like the Cannon pick for the Eagles although I had hoped to get him in the 2nd round, I was hoping to get a CB in the first then Cannon in the 2nd.
Man, how about Jerome Harrison for the Eagles? I think he’ll just keep getting better for them. I don’t mind that my team traded him because he doesn’t fit their scheme. I just think he’ll be very good for Philly.
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Yeah I loved the trade. I don’t think he will be able to be a starter though which I am fine with because I love Shady. Before last week I read that him and Bell had the same amount of yards 6 but Bell had it on 13 carries and Harrison only had 2. I think the Eagles got a steal. I hope they can re-sign him because I think he would be a great backup to Shady.
No true OT's in the first round?
odd. Its such a position of need that even if you dont think any are worth a 1st you know someone will reach for them, similar to QB’s
I kind of thought a couple would go toward the back end. But that’s the fun of mocks. If everyone did the same thing, they’d suck big time.
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There was a huge run on tackles in the early 2nd. Some reaches IMO, need trumping talent.
I can't see how the 49er's, Cardinals, or the Vikings can possible pass on a QB.
Those teams will not be any good for awhile unless they get a new QB. The only way 1 of those teams skip on a QB is if the picked up Vick.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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Hope he does well which would take SF off the list.
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If Panthers retain the #1 pick it will be a fascinating scenario
Granted, some of it is fraught with conspiracy theory- but there is a significant sentiment that the 2010 draft for the Panthers which loaded up on skill positions while mostly ignoring the offensive and defensive lines was such a departure from the norm that John Fox might not have had much involvement with the picks.
This is coupled with a belief by some (me included) that Carolina have their next HC pegged already (no, not Bill Cowher), based on how bad the relationship between Fox and the front office had become. If this is the case, one must wonder if the Clausen pick and other related picks were guys who would fit the offensive system of a new HC.
If this ends up being even partially accurate then it’s likely Carolina will shop the pick, and given there could be a rookie salary cap coupled with the desirability of Andrew Luck it could be the first time in a while we’ve seen a significant trade being made to obtain a top three pick. Though consensus seems to be “If not Luck then A.J Green” the Panthers have a tendency to be very active draft day traders. I could see them looking to move back somewhere in the top ten and target one of the corners, or simply pick Andrew Luck for the Bills in exchange for one of the corners at #2 overall as well as additional compensation.
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It would be easier to shop Clausen
It would be a waste to pick Luck with Clausen on board. And when you are drafting #1 you cannot have waste. Although Carolina is better than their record would indicate – the RB and QB injuries have hurt
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Carolina is not better than their record indicates. Our offense is absimal and our point differential is laughable. I think we should hedge our bets and take Luck with the first pick. I figure either Clausen or Luck will turn out to be a franchise QB, then we could just trade the other one away.
by keebler elf on Nov 24, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I like the Niners pick
Of course I want a CB luckily this is a deep class for the CB.
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