2011 NFL mock draft

I got it here. Who is out of order?

You know, I considered going with Ingram there but couldn’t pull the trigger while they still have Bradshaw and Jacobs. I think there might be a couple guys in later rounds that would fit NYG pretty well. Namely, DeMarco Murray.

Are you that sure about him as an NFL QB? We in Iowa City joked about his NFL “future” until this year. He’s been playing great this year, but he still struggles mightily with the deep ball and probably will only grade out as an average athlete. He has great size and intangibles, but I have my doubts beyond that.

Thanks. Miller has really come alive lately. That would be a perfect system for him.

I kept trying to fit Ingram places and it just didn’t make a lot of sense. Maybe Seattle or Washington, but that was it until you go way too high for a running back.

GB just clicked for some reason.

You may be right. He’s going to light up all-star games.

I’m not the biggest fan of his, to be honest. I thought 20 was kind of a stretch.

He got dominated by Gabe Carimi this year it seemed like

I think he’s what a team would want in a 3-4 end. He’s a big wide body who can handle multiple blockers, penetrate some and is athletic enough.

I really value your opinion though. If the draft played out like this, who would you have put in there?

U may be a hawkeye homer, but I would much rather have Clayborn over Heyward. Clayborn would be huge

so the Pats will get Prince Amukamara with the 33rd overall pick.

I always do that. I hate mocks.

I went back and forth for a while on that. But what is Cincinnati’s receiving corps next year without T.O.? It’s pretty bad. Ocho has really dipped and I think the Bengals might even try and move him finally.

I considered Robert Quinn there, but thought that was slightly high (even though I have him being picked two picks later).

if he has some cover skills.
I like Dontay but you need to have a run stuffer in front of him IMO

I think a 1 and a 3 in 2011 or a 1 in 2011 and a 2 in 2012 would do it.

I kind of intentionally went out of my way to not go skill positions for the Pats.

The thing I hate about mocks is how likely is Belichick to even keep that second first? I’d be a good bit that he’ll trade it for extra picks this year, or an extra pick this year and a first next year.

…I just think they have many other needs that should come first. The Patriots use their tight ends a lot as blockers (Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez and Alge Crumpler) and receivers, so it’s certain that the Patriots will have at least one tight end on the field.
Wes Welker
Deion Branch
Rob Gronkowski
Danny Woodhead
One other player/Herndo

I think the Patriots will always opt to take best player available- but that also includes best deal available. If Julio Jones drops to the Patriots, some other time might be willing to pony up a big portion of their draft to take him and I think the Patriots would be happy to oblige.

Needs: DE, OT, OG (if Mankins walks), OC, OLB
Want: S, CB, RB
Gravy: WR, TE, QB, ILB

He’s solid. Better in off man coverage than bump and run.

WR, S, CB, QB

Noted, thanks.

I like Ingram a lot. He’s much better than Mathews too.

Thanks! That’s all I’ve got.

or win a few games :)

…Anthony Costanzo!

Question for you though what do you think. Is there any chance they could move Saturday to G? It think he probably could do it if one of the other guys are ready to move there and could still be a mentor.

Good. I knew I was going to OL with Indy. No matter where they end up picking, they’ll be fine with Costanzo or Sherrod.

I try not to project trades in mocks. It just adds another element of projection that’s likely not to happen.

They are ranked 26th in pass yards per game… Its not as rosy as you make it out to be. BTW, its 26th in yards even thoug they have a great amount of sacks, which is a pretty big indictment on the secondary

I considered QB, but figured Adams will give VY another year. I don’t really view Verner or McCourty as a No. 1 or No. 2 corner. I’ll keep that in mind, though, for the next mock and when I watch Tennessee.

Luck is really a redshirt sophomore. But speed and one year doesn’t make a QB better,

“parcells rule” drafting Senior QB always

As you point out, this year isn’t a particularly deep O-line class. I agree 100% with Dan waiting till the middle of the first to start taking OT off. There isn’t a definite top ten O-line player this year. I’d venture to say there isn’t a top 15. There might be more than 3 taken in the first, but they’ll all be late I bet. I expect those teams with O-line needs will go after them in the second, when they can get value for the pick.

ALWAYS an OT in the first 10. Even if teams have to talk themselves into it. At the very least, some combine workout wonder will emerge, and a team will take a chance and draft him early, all the while thinking they are taking the “safe” pick.

Mark Ingram does not get out of the top ten. I also pray that the Eagles get a top 10 first for Kolb next year so they can pair Fairley with Bunkley/Patterson. That dude has SUH written all over him.

…with a lot of speedy receivers. It’s very college-esque, with players like McCoy and Jackson and Maclin. Speed guys who can get open. Young is awful. Garrard is annually overrated.

Newton needs to be put in an offense where he can do well. I like Minnesota with Harvin and Rice and Shiancoe is a perfect place for him to thrive. He needs to be in an offense where the receivers can burn the corners and get open. A lot of teams (Patriots, Steelers, Colts, etc) require their receivers to run timed routes where the receivers must be on the exact same page as the quarterback. If the quarterback tends to run out of the pocket a lot, it adds another variable to the “timing” equation and the receivers will often be out of place when the throw gets to them.

He needs to be in an offense where he can utilize his running. If he’s asked to be a pocket QB, he’s going to let down a lot of people.

And he’s a special talent, very different from Newton. I’d say Newton’s running ability and style will be close to useless in the NFL, and you certainly can’t build an offense around that.

Using Young and Garrard as examples of the future is ludicrous. Young is quickly playing his way out of the league and never really developed, the only reason he’s had some success the past year has been that he works well as a complement to Chris Johnson, not because he’s some gamebreaking talent. Garrard has been incredibly ineffective, and regardless they still use him as a traditional dropback passer the vast majority of the time.

You’re also ignoring the fact that the most succesful QBs in the league (with the exception of Vick, who can’t really be replicated) are all pocket passers. Brady, Manning, Manning, Rodgers, Orton, Schaub and the list goes on. There are only 2 QBs in this league who you could characterize as running QBs: Vince Young and Michael Vick.

And all the promising young QBs are pocket passers too: Freeman, Sanchez, Bradford, Stafford. There’s no up-and-coming running QB about to change the game.

They said the same thing about Vick revolutionzing the NFL 10 years ago. I’ll believe it when it actually happens, and it certainly isn’t happening now.

that doesn’t make sense. Newton is not Vick, he doesn’t have near the pocket presene.

LOL at the “new breed” taking over when guys like Rivers, Brees and Peyton are still dominating at the position not to mention many others who aren’t even close to Vick’s athleticism.

Stewart Bradley is not a starter what the hell are you watching? Yes he struggled a little bit early in the season but who doesn’t from the injury he had, he’s getting back to where he was a couple years ago the past couple games.

Since Dimitri Patterson has been an upgrade since taking over for Ellis Hobbs it wouldn’t surprise me if they went interior OL since that is our biggest need.

I think CB is definetly the biggest need in this draft, and I’d love to have either one of those guys in black and gold. I wouldn’t mind if the Steelers took 3 or more DB’s early. D-Line and O-line, of course, must also be addressed.