ct17 4-round mock v2
by ct17 on Feb 19, 2010 4:20 PM EST
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I added a round and made significant changes, so I felt it was worth posting a new one before the combine. Have to start clearing some room on my DVR to tape the whole thing.
1st Round:
1. St. Louis Rams - Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
Look at the teams with QB issues. They are drafting in the first 10. Haynesworth's team went went 4-12. This is why QB is always the pick at the top of the draft.
2. Detroit Lions - Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
No explanation necessary.
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Many holes to fill, looking for an impact player. Could also be Berry.
4. Washington Redskins - Russell Okung, T, Oklahoma State
Good blocking is the key to Shanahan's offense, and his line needs major help.
5. Kansas City Chiefs - Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
This defense needs a playmaker, and S is more of a need than ILB.
6. Seattle Seahawks - Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Hasselbeck is wearing down. Bradford gets time to heal and learn the offense.
7. Cleveland Browns - Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
They have Jackson, but Mangini comes from the Pats system, where they like to have two good ILBs. McClain is the best available player.
8. Oakland Raiders - Anthony Davis, LT, Rutgers
Easily the biggest need, besides a consistently good QB, which will not be found here.
9. Buffalo Bills - Bryan Bulaga, LT, Iowa
Would like a QB, but none left for here. After some poor 1st round picks, Bills choose the sure thing.
10. Denver Broncos - Dan Williams, NT/DE, Tennessee
Marshall has hinted at making nice. The d-line is weak. Williams could play NT, or lose a few pounds and play LDE.
11. Jacksonville Jaguars - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
The Jags had 14 sacks on the whole season, and they are not reaching for a DE here.
12. Miami Dolphins - Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
They want McClain. Kindle has the all-around athleticism, similar to Matthews Jr., to do everything.
13. San Francisco 49ers - Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
The SF fans want safety help. The CB situation last year was due to injuries more than talent.
14. Seattle Seahawks - Charles Brown, T, USC
This could be Spiller, especially with Carroll having coached Bush, but they need to keep Hasselbeck alive and Forsett is better than Mora thought. Carroll picks his guy from USC.
15. New York Giants - Brian Price, DT, UCLA
The best player left at one of their defensive holes.
16. Tennessee Titans - Joe Haden, CB, Florida
They have better DE depth than CB. Haden is the BPA, and CBs have been less of a risk in the 1st round.
17. San Francisco 49ers - C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
A weapon to create some excitement in this offense that needs it
18. Pittsburgh Steelers - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho
A mauler that fits the franchise.
19. Atlanta Falcons - Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
They need a #2 WR, they get a #1. Defense has needs but this is the best value.
20. Houston Texans - Donovan Warren, CB, Michigan
The best player at one of their defensive need positions.
21. Cincinnati Bengals - Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
The Bengals need a reliable WR.
22. New England Patriots - Jared Odrick, DE, Penn State
Seymour's replacement and in line with Pats draft history.
23. Green Bay Packers - Bruce Campbell, LT, Maryland
An obvious need, although I was leaning towards Von Miller before he went back to school.
24. Philadelphia Eagles - Everson Griffen, DE, USC
The Eagles like to rotate their line, and a lot of their good backup DEs are aging.
25. Baltimore Ravens - Damian Williams, WR, USC
Flacco needs targets, Williams is ready right away.
26. Arizona Cardinals - Sean Weatherspoon, ILB, Missouri
Will replace Dansby as the leader of this defense and play his position.
27. Dallas Cowboys - Chad Jones, S, LSU
A big athlete that can play run and pass.
28. San Diego Chargers - Terrence Cody, NT, Alabama
May only be a 2-down player but he is good at what he does.
29. New York Jets - Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
Fits the coach's personality and will be asked to start right away.
30. Minnesota Vikings - Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
A glaring need similar to the Jets, but is also an appropriate pick for this slot.
31. Indianapolis Colts - Daryl Washington, LB, TCU
Can play multiple LB positions and will fit the Colts system.
32. New Orleans Saints - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
An upgrade at LDE and a team that can afford the risk.
2ND ROUND
1. STL - Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
A huge target for Clausen.
2. DET - Cox, CB, Oklahoma State
An upgrade is needed at the position.
3. TB - McCourty, CB, Rutgers
Barber is aging out, and the talent level at the position drops from here.
4. KC - Williams, RT, Oklahoma
A 1st round talent that fits best as a right tackle in a zone-blocking system.
5. WAS - Matthews, RB, Fresno State
The most likely back in the draft to be an every-down player. The Redskins need a sure thing
6. CLE - Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
Pool's return is questionable and Elam is nothing special. Will start at SS or FS.
7. OAK - Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
The type of athlete Al Davis loves can learn from Seymour.
8. SEA - Graham, DE, Michigan
The replacement for Kerney with a similar speed game
9. BUF - Spikes, ILB, Florida
The best player here to help the transition to a 3-4.
10. NE from JAC- Benn, WR, Illinois
A deep speed threat to add some variety to the passing game.
11. MIA - Angerer, ILB, Iowa
A guy that makes plays, measurables be damned.
12. TB from CHI - LaFell, WR, LSU
Good size and speed to help Freeman.
13. DEN - Pouncey, C/G, Florida
Guard is the talent need now but their center is older than me.
14. NYG - Allen, S, South Florida
The desperately needed safety that can cover.
15. NE from TEN - Hughes, OLB, TCU
The pass rusher they want and need.
16. CAR - Houston, DT, Texas
WR a big need, but the value here is at DT.
17. SF - Black, RT, LSU
A powerful run blocker that has experience against speed rushers in college.
18. KC from ATL - Sapp, OLB, South Carolina
Vrabel is aging, and will be a good teacher for his replacement, who shows good potential.
19. HOU - Mays, S, USC
He drops far enough to take a chance.
20. PIT - Franks, CB, Oklahoma
They need help with their two-minute defense, where the pressure is on the corners.
21. NE - Best, RB, California
An elusive runner, Maroney has disappointed and the other RBs are at the end of their careers.
22. CIN - Neal, DT, Purdue
They have big bodies but no pass rush up the middle.
23. PHI - Jerry, G, Mississippi
Goodbye Andrews brothers. Hello lower doctors' bills. The big guy Philly likes has shown good athleticism.
24. GB - Norwood, OLB, South Carolina
Replaces Kampman, will allow Matthews more freedom to play all over the field like his father.
25. BAL - Robinson, CB, Florida State
Has his ups and downs, but has talent so I don't see him slipping any further.
26. ARI - Calloway, T, Iowa
A solid player to protect the lefty Leinart's blind side, but I think he can play both tackle positions.
27. DAL - Ducasse, G, Massachusetts
Another team that likes big guys, and Dallas can afford the time to develop him.
28. SD - Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
Would benefit from playing behind Tomlinson for a year. Physical skills but needs teaching.
29. NYJ - Roberts, WR, Citadel
A weapon is needed at WR, Edwards unreliable but will be the short-term option until his UFA year.
30. MIN - Thomas, DT, North Carolina
Williams is talking retirement and Thomas would be a good replacement.
31. IND - Fox, LT, Miami
Assuming good medical tests, a player that fits Indy. I see a 4-way competition with Ugoh, Johnson, and Diem for the two tackle spots.
32. NO - Bowman, LB, Penn State
More speed and youth at the LB position, and a great value here.
3RD ROUND
1. STL - Jones, DT, Syracuse
Spagnuolo gets his attacking DT, and he's already used to playing in a dome.
2. DET - Johnson, G, Alabama
So I'm not in the hate Backus club. Interior is more of a concern.
3. TB - Rolle, S, Florida State
Intelligence is highly underrated in safeties.
4. KC - Shipley, WR, Texas
Cassell needs targets, Shipley has good hands and speed.
5. OAK - Arenas, CB, Alabama
Return game skills and help at CB in a division that is throwing the ball more.
6. PHI from SEA - Jones, S, Georgia
Does Sean Jones have vision problems or is he really that bad?
7. CLE - Hernandez, TE, Florida
Puts another weapon on the field to help the QB.
8. BUF - McCluster, RB/WR, Mississippi
The Bills need some excitement on offense. They will likely lose Owens and Lynch is a flake.
9. MIA - Johnson, S, Utah
Giants and Raiders fans could have told you that Wilson is not a free safety.
10. CHI - Saffold, LT, Indiana
This guy is climbing the charts. People just realized Indiana had a football program.
11. JAC - Tebow, QB, Florida
I feel shame in making this pick. But they can use a backup QB and he can play a wildcat-type role.
12. NYG - Sharpton, MLB, Miami
A reach here. The Giants have done well with Miami LBs and need speed. Don't want a RT project.
13. TEN - Hardy, DE, Mississippi
Falls due to weight and poor senior year.
14. CAR - Gronkowski, TE, Arizona
Can block and catch, a big upgrade at the position.
15. SF - Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
A fast WR used to their spread offense.
16. DEN - Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
Even if Marshall comes back, it might not be long term.
17. HOU - McKnight, RB, USC
Good hands and speed, and different type of runner than Slaton or Foster.
18. PIT - Stuckey, S, Kansas
A big tackler that fills a position of need.
19. ATL - Lindley, CB, Kentucky
Lack of depth was exposed by injuries, although starters were not stars, either. Lindley's poor Senior Bowl drops him back.
20. CIN - Edds, LB, Iowa
Allows Maualauga to move to the middle.
21. OAK from NE - Atkins, DT, Georgia
They need some fight on the inside.
22. GB - Jackson, CB, Alabama
An obvious need with two old corners.
23. PHI - Priest, CB, TCU
After watching Dallas WRs run by them, they pick a corner with speed.
24. BAL - Pitta, TE, BYU
Heap version 2.
25. ARI - Cunningham, OLB, Florida
The outside pass rusher they need.
26. DAL - Williams, WR, Tulane
A solid receiver that works hard to replace a Williams that does not.
27. SD - Alualu, DE, California
The d-line could use a quick player as well, and he is a good value here.
28. CLE from NYJ - LeFevour, QB, Central Michigan
Real competition for Quinn, Holmgren will look to finally stop the QB merry-go-round.
29. MIN - Petrus, G, Arkansas
Help is needed up the middle and this guy looks like a smaller Iupati.
30. IND - Lane, DE, Murray State
On a defense built around the pass rush, you need good backups. Lane provides a different look with his size, and he is not much bigger than Brock.
31. NO - McCoy, QB, Texas
Fits the NO system, and a good backup is needed for this team.
4TH ROUND
1. STL - Muckelroy, LB, Texas
Fills a need with a good athlete.
2. DET - Devine, RB, West Virginia
This could probably hold off until the 5th, but I wanted to get Detroit a good turf RB. There is also talent here at WR and DE.
3. TB - Young, RT, Notre Dame
A risk/reward player, but Youngblood was ugly last year.
4. KC - Tennant, C/G, Kansas City
Williams was not enough. They need an upgrade in the middle.
5. WAS - Lewis, S, Vanderbilt
Landry is a SS.
6. SEA - Tate, RB, Auburn
A partner for Forsett that does everything well.
7. CLE - Misi, OLB, Utah
Fans will probably want a CB by now. I went OLB because I think the talent is better than at CB here.
8. OAK - Watson, LB, Florida State
A fast LB for Al.
9. BUF - Troup, NT, Central Florida
Solves the problem of trying out Stroud and Williams for the nose spot.
10. CHI - Asante, S, Nebraska
I don't have any strong feelings for Chicago here. Pretend I picked whoever you wanted.
11. JAC - Walton, C, Baylor
Completes the o-line retool. Jones-Drew will get big holes this year.
12. MIA - Alexander, WR, Missouri
Another 4th round WR for Miami, a big target Henne can't miss.
13. TEN - Olsen, C, Notre Dame
Mawae will probably retire before 50. Probably.
14. CAR - Decker, WR, Minnesota
A replacement for Muhammad.
15. SF - Selvie, OLB, South Florida
Like Cleveland, I might have gone CB if the talent level was here. SF has good OLBs, but are hoping for a 10+sack guy.
16. DEN - Wootton, DE, Northwestern
A value pick that further upgrades the d-line. Also thinking about Pike here. Or an ILB.
17. NYG - Lang, DE, Troy
This is a no to Veldheer, and a warning to the DEs to produce.
18. PIT - Carrington, DE, Arkansas State
The whole Pitt d-line is aging, expect a NT next pick. A RB at some point also.
19. ATL - Wilson, DE, East Carolina
Has talent, needs coaching, a perfect fit at left end.
20. HOU - Smith, DT, Louisiana Tech
A plug for the middle.
21. NE - Gerhart, RB, Stanford
Two RBs! A good complement to Best, smart player for a smart team. Or this could be a CB.
22. CIN - Wright, S, Florida
A safety with a little more speed to help deep.
23. PHI - Hardesty, RB, Tennessee
Westbrook's concussions are a concern. Could also be a QB.
24. GB - Murphy, CB, South Florida
Two old corners, two young corners. Also thinking Dixon at RB.
25. BAL - Sheffield, OLB, Troy
The defense is aging and expensive. Reed, Lewis, Pryce, Bannan. But Sheffield is the top talent available here.
26. ARI - Hardman, T, Eastern Kentucky
Arizona needs two new tackles. Brown may get a shot to play at guard. Also thinking CB here.
27. DAL - Veldheer, T, Hillsdale
A replacement to be groomed for Colombo, should learn a lot from another tall guy.
28. SD - Owusu-Ansari, CB, Indiana U. of Pennsylvania
A project to turn into another Cromartie .
29. PHI from NYJ - White, WR, Michigan State
Depth is needed at WR.
30. MIN - Curran, LB, Georgia
A fast LB for a fast defense.
31. IND - Byers, G, USC
I was thinking DT, but they have a lot of young guys at that position. DeVan started 9 games and the fans have had enough. Tough crowd. Then again, the Giants are looking to boot Goff after 5. Good teams want results fast.
32. NO - Coleman, S, Ohio State
Harper and Sharper are free agents (RFA and UFA). While Jenkins could slide over, more help could be needed anyway.
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Good Jaguars draft except
I think Haden is better value and would be a good BAP choice.
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secondary help
You guys are fast.
I know you are looking to run Nelson out of town by direct replacement or moving Mathis. I would have given you that help if you had a second round pick or were willing to ignore taking Tebow in the 3rd. You can hope an improved pass rush helps out Nelson.
Want to trade one loser safety for another? We’ll give you Michael Johnson, as a 7th rounder his salary is cheap.
Allow me to further explain why we'd rather have Haden over Morgan
Who is better value? Haden or Morgan?
Who would make a bigger impact earlier?
Now, If we drafted Haden, Rashean Mathis and Derek Cox would compete for the top 2 CB spots. The Loser (probably Rashean who has been more hype) would become Safety. This fits two needs (Good Depth/Nickelback and fix a good portion of the secondary).
If we drafted Morgan, who is a good player, we’d be picking a 3rd DE high in the last 3 years. That’s somewhat overpaying a position, which a small market team probably can’t do. Morgan would also most likely take 2-3 years to fully develop and mature.
You understand?
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From what I’ve heard, Morgan might be the most ready to start DL aside from the top 2 DT’s.
What I get out of it is he’s a low floor, high ceiling type. He’s already there…he has an extremely low ‘bust’ potential.
His floor would be Justin Smith, a player who will always play the run and on a good year will get you sacks. But he opens up the field for the rest of the guys to do their thing; a big reason why the Niners rushed the passer well is because he’s their 3-4 DE
Ceiling? Justin Tuck. Do I dare explain the monstrosity that is Tuck? He was “bad” this year, yet still one of the best run stopping DE’s in the game. But Tuck can get you 12+ sacks
When Tuck, or Smith for that matter, are beast mode (or just healthy) it opens up everything for the pass rushers.
Morgan’s a player who starts right away (that is…if there’s no starter there).
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 19, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
He would have to beat out a starter
if we resign Reggie Hayward and let Harvey kept developing as starter.
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for real…Reggie Hayward?
Wow..uh yea, DE’s shored up. Might as well go CB then.
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 19, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
The bad thing about Hayward is that he's injury prone
and he’ll need to replaced but for now he’ll compete for the starter spot.
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Haden vs. Morgan
Both are the best at their position. You poll all 32 teams for their pick, it would probably be split 50-50. If you think the Jags are gun-shy about another high pick at the position, you would know better than me. But the pass rush has to improve.
It’s hard to predict how long a player takes to succeed. Don’t think you can distinguish DE from CB. You’re still waiting for Harvey. But Orakpo almost had more sacks than your whole team last year as a rookie, and he was playing SLB on running downs.
The Giants have won three Super Bowls with not much at safety. I bet most fans couldn’t tell you one of the names from the first two. But opposing QBs spent a lot of time on the ground.
I'd be happy with either
but my preference would be Haden. He’s higher ranked and better value imo.
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The more I look at it...
I would rather take Norwood with the 2b spot than Sapp. I don’t mind the Shipley pick, he would be really good, but I think someone like McCluster would fill more spots. With someone like McCluster you could still have a slot receiver and he could be our KR/PR. Shipley could probably do the same or we pick up someone like Brandon Banks later in the 5th round. Overall I like this draft because all the needed spots were hit. I really get annoyed when people think the Chiefs will take a TE in the second round because we used to have Tony Gonzalez. And your right, the NT position needs to be addressed this offseason.
Chiefs explanation
I went with Sapp because he has been described as being a little more athletic. Hopefully the combine will show if that is true. With Hali already converted from DE, I wanted to give you a guy that has other skills bersides rushing the passer.
There are a lot of little WR/KR/PR types in this draft. McCluster’s difference is his RB background, which will help him go earlier.
Edwards is a better NT than a lot of other guys out there. May look better when Dorsey and Jackson mature. But there are a few guys I did not draft that should be available in the top of the 5th. I find that a lot of mocks are placing too much emphasis on the NT, as if it is not acceptable to draft one later than the 2nd if you do not have a Pro Bowler already at the position. A lot of good NTs fall because they are playing DT in college and the position does not fit them as well as NT would.
I think Ryan shows promise at TE. Made some plays when I watched Chiefs games.
NT
I’m not disagreeing with you, I’m yelling at the world. I’m not on board with the Cody to KC in the early 2nd and Thomas to Buffalo in the 2nd simply because they play NT. There are 21 other players on the field that are also important. Again, not saying these picks would be bad, but it should not be looked at as an absolute requirement.
I gave Williams early to Denver simply because I think they need a young, tough guy up front. They might be best served keeping Fields at NT, putting the young guy on a diet and moving him to DE. Cody to San Diego is as much because I am an Alabama fan, so I have a bias there. Wait until I mock Ingram #1 next year.
Pretty solid Dallas mock
With the way the board fell I think you did a pretty solid job filling our needs with the BPA. I especially like Valdeheer in the 4th!
Good man ct.
good man.
Like the Lang pick. Maybe the new DE from Troy shows the old TE from Troy how to be a DE for the NYG’s?
like the Sharpton pick even more.
Next Jesse Armstead (of course, this one at MLB)?
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 19, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Graham is a first rounder
if this is the case, then the pats will trade down, get Graham, and hopefully mathews. I do thing they can get hughes. We won’t get a wr in the second(unless it’s either shipley, decker, or tate who are second rounders), instead we’ll get an OL or DL.
we'll get an OL or DL instead of best.
Maroney will stay another year, and i personally like Mathews better than bhest.
I went with history
Seymour, Warren, and Wilfork all first rounders. I like Ohrnberger, and o-linemen last longer than other players, so I skipped them. I also prefer Mattthews, but he is gone.
Redskins
Very Good IMO, addressed three of our major concerns with quality players, I like Myron Lewis in the 4th to convert to FS also. I like Dwyer instead of Matthews in the 2nd, but would be very happy with either & I think that both are Shannahans type of RB. Okung in the 1st would (will) be awesome. Very Good Mock IMO
Seahawks.
Everything makes sense from this Seahawks fan’s perspective.
Dream Draft: Clausen, Brown (#24), Houston, McKnight, Mike Williams, Black, McManis, DTN.
Like Washington, but he's a reach there and with the Colts committing to resign Brackett
it’s not a big enough need to justify the reach.
Gresham, Graham, Trent Williams, JPP and McCourty all are better value at positions the Colts would consider spending a 1st on.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
like the 2nd-4th picks quite a bit though.
and Washington is a great fit, I just think it’s too much of a reach with the other guys on the board.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 19, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Need a CB
But otherwise I love the Colts draft. I kind of disagree with Shake. Washington in the first, besides the fact that he’s an LB (and the Colts never draft LBs that early) is just the type of unexpected reach the Colts would make that had a high likelihood of paying off. I would not feel comfortable with only one injury-troubled O-lineman with the first four picks. As much as I like Lane, I might choose Tennant there and take a pass rusher or CB in the fourth.
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A- Patriots draft
I don’t think they’re going to spend two picks on RBs, I’d rather they get Gerhart in the 4th round (if he slips out of the 3rd and that far into the fourth that is a STEAL) and spend the Bhest pick on the OL.
agreed
just i think McCourty is better then cox…. cox is a pot head and i dont want another one of them
didnt know that... but luckly he worked out.. i donno if we can do that agin
plus i have never seen a pic of cox where he isnt high
And Percy Harvin
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by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 20, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Real competition for Quinn, Holmgren will look to finally stop the QB merry-go-round.
Contradict much?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 20, 2010 1:50 AM EST reply actions
Replace McClain with Haden and get rid of the LeFeveur pick and I like it for the Browns.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 20, 2010 1:51 AM EST reply actions
Cleveland
I knew the fans would not like me ignoring CB, but that was just the way the draft fell. I think Wright is getting better every year.
QB – With Holmgren in the picture, I think this is the year they choose a QB and go with him for 16 games. Anderson is too expensive to be on the bench and should be cut – they could always resign him at half the price.
Kindle
I’ve seen a lot of mocks that have Sergio Kindle picked either by Dolphins or Patriots, and a few mocks have him going to the Jets. Is it safe to say we’ll see Kindle in an AFC East uniform?
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
according to Mel Kiper
he’ll be in NY, but the NFC East.
…Kiper’s an idiot cuz Kindle makes no sense, but still.
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 20, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Kindle won’t be a Giant, and Kiper is a dope. I’d trust the analysis of people here before I’d ever trust Kiper.
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
Kiper > McShay
It’s not even close.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 20, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yea well, that is cuz of Jimmy Clausen.
Cuz to me, the Kiper picks for the Giants vs. McShay.
..McShay >>> Kiper.
Kiper knows who the most talented players are in the draft, but McShay actually knows what NFL teams need, while Kiper probably couldn’t name half of the NFL teams…
They actually both don’t have much of a clue on their own.
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 20, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
You’ve gotta admit, Jimmy Clausen isn’t a 3rd/4th round prospect and has 0 in common with Losman (besides whiteness and they both used to have goofy hair)
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 22, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
To me, Jimmy Clausen’s the best QB and should be the #1 pick in the draft.
…I don’t hate Todd McShay cuz of that tho.
…I don’t hate him at all..he’s just an idiot.
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by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Mayock > Kiper & McShay combined
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
whoa, meant that as a reply to RealSlimShady
The 2010 New York Mets: Maybe it's the Phillies' turn to have 95% of its roster on the DL
The 2009 New England Patriots: At least we got our division title back
The 2009-10 New Jersey Devils: Allergic to second periods
I agree, Mayock is the best out there right now.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 20, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
+1
The NFL Network really improved last year, and Mayock is a big part of it. Love all of the technical analysis shows and segments. Can’t stand ESPN anymore. They spend as little time on the NFL as possible. Why does Sports Center on Fall Sunday nights spend 50% of its time on NBA basketball? No one cares about the Celtics 6th game of the season.
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by FreeBradshaw on Feb 20, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Angerer
135 tackles in 12 games – that’s 180 tackles in a NFL season. 5 INT’s the year before. But he’s small and probably not that fast, will not impress at the combine. He’s the next London Fletcher.
he's already there as far as name awesomeness goes
and I think he could have a good workout. He didn’t look unathletic at all at Iowa.
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by shake n bake on Feb 21, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions
you know, when I see projected 40 times I see Angerer in the top few of all MLB’s.
Yes, 40 time is basically irrelevant for a MLB, but for some reason it improves draft stock. Angerer is pretty quick too.
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 21, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
isn’t he like 6’2 244?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 22, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never seen him listed that big
6"0 235 is basically the norm for Angerer.
I doubt he’s 6"2, but if he does end up 6"0 244, I guess it would help.
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by FreeBradshaw on Feb 22, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
BRONCOS!
That would be a dream scenario for me, I think…
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Give Carolina Gilyard and Hardy instead of Houston and Gronkowski
and it’s a very solid draft.
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