NorthLeft's Mock Draft Revised 1
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 2:36 PM EST
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I decided to take up Mocking Dan's challenge to create a draft of my own. So here is my take on how the first and second round will go down based on my interpretation of what teams needs are and what is available when they pick. Hopefully it is a little different from most that I have seen, while still retaining some credibility.
I asked for feedback and you responded! Thanks. I have incorporated some of the comments in this revision along with a second round.
ROUND #1
1. Rams - J. Clausen QB St. Louis makes the smartest pick for their long term success. Suh is definitely a possibility but I think the Rams do the math and realize their offence is in dire straights with their current stable of QBs.
2. Lions - N. Suh DT Detroit quickly snaps up another key player to overhaul a dreadful defence. Call me a homer for calling the draft this way but I will be just as happy if the Lions take Gerald McCoy. A lot of Lions fans don't agree.
3. Bucs - G. McCoy DT Tampa would prefer Suh, but I don't see them offering any picks to move up to get him. McCoy helps the defence against both the run and pass. This spot is much too early for D. Morgan DE.
4. Skins - R. Okung LT They pass on Bradford to address a huge hole in their O line. J. Campbell gets one more shot to be the long term QB with Mike Shanahan.
5. Chiefs - E. Berry S Too much value to pass by. D line or LB help will be available later.
6. SeaHawks - B. Campbell LT He will move up the draft boards with a great combine showing. Seattle thinks about a DE too but they don't offer the value that Campbell does and they may get a very good one with their second first rounder. Bradford also gets a look here but his injury questions remain unanswered.
7. Browns - R. McClain ILB Too early for this position? Maybe, but he is a huge missing piece for the Browns to build on. McClain is the best 3-4 ILB since.....well, Patrick Willis. Haden or E. Thomas are considered and passed. I think the Browns secondary can wait until later to add some talent.
8. Raiders - A. Davis OT Oakland needs help at either tackle position and Davis is the type of big, run blocking Tackle they love. Jemarcus gets his last chance to prove he is an NFL QB. Needless to say, Gradkowski will start the most games in 2010.
9. Bills - B. Bulaga OT Buffalo is forced to reach a little bit for a player that they have to have. Bulaga will vindicate his pick with a solid year and career. A QB is thought of but the only one worth the pick, isn't. Especially in windy and cold Buffalo. Not to mention New Jersey and New England.
10. Broncos - S. Bradford QB Denver can't believe it, a bona fide franchise QB for the taking. McDaniels grabs him without reading the lengthy disclaimer. A NT or S is looked at but......are you kidding me? Sam Bradford!?!
11. Jaguars - E. Thomas S Instant help for a secondary that desperately needs it. Especially in a division with the Colts and Texans. Dunlap the DE is an option, but they already have one underperforming Florida alum at DE. They pass on Haden too because Jag fans tell me that D. Cox and Mathis are solid. Who am I to argue?
12. Dolphins - D. Williams NT A new body to man the middle is needed. Big Dan is the best choice. The Linebackers who are available do not measure up. See you in the second round.
13. 49ers - Joe Haden CB Amazing value here and a great fit for San Fran. The Niner fans say they want Spiller but Coach Singletary is building a dominant defence. They will get an OT later. Trust me.
14. Seahawks - C. Dunlap DE The Seattle brain trust struggle between Carlos and D. Morgan. Dunlap has more potential and he gets the nod. I rethought this one, strongly considering Morgan instead. I'll stick with Dunlap. Dez Bryant is thought of but they need a better pass rush.
15. Giants - D. Morgan DE New York would have loved Earl Thomas but they need to improve the D line. Yeah, the one they were calling the best in the NFL in October 2009. Remember that? Giants fans want a DT instead. I look over your roster and leave Morgan as the pick. More value, same need.
16. 49ers - T. Williams OT They get a great Right Tackle who might make the move to the left side if they need him.Some might think this is early. I agree but not much else is very interesting.
17. Titans - J. Pierre-Paul DE Tennessee needs an upgrade at DE. Brandon Graham might move up to this spot if the Titans can get over JPP's amazing combine numbers and figure out that Graham is just a better football player but like most NFL organizations they like the bigger faster guys. A corner like D. Warren might work here too.
18. Steelers - M. Iupati G Pittsburgh addresses their problems on the O line by correctly upgrading the interior with massive Mike. He teams up with Troy P. to dominate shampoo commercials. Corners K. Wilson, Warren. and Ghee are a good option but left for a later round.
19. Falcons - K. Wilson CB A solid corner is needed to improve the pass defence. Wilson has made believers out of a lot of NFL GMs. Great combination of speed and agility and power. A little short, but then he would not be available here if he were over six feet. Mike Smith looks longingly at Dez Bryant, but moves on.
20. Texans - B. Price DT Building a very stout defence requires that Shaun Cody not be in the starting lineup. Price will be a great help against both the pass and run with his amazing penetration. A high impact Corner wouldn't hurt either.
21. Bengals - D. Bryant WR Cinci gets lucky and finds a game breaking wideout waiting for them. Actually, CJ Spiller would be an interesting alternative, but they will be happy with Dez.
22. Patriots - CJ Spiller RB Conventional wisdom is that New England would take a rush LB to help the pass rush.But they have McKenzie coming off a season long injury from last year and plenty of options in the second round. My belief is that Belichick will trade back into the first for Jerry Hughes or Brandon Graham, but Spiller is an element that the Pat offence has been missing for a long time. They take him now.
23. Packers - C. Brown LT A very good pass blocking Tackle who needs a little weight to become a top end LT. He is the last one left and Green Bay must take him. A corner for depth is another choice which should not be taken.
24. Eagles - B. Graham DE A great player who will help the Philly defence in every way. It is a little early for a Safety but one of Warren or Ghee will help the depth of the secondary at CB if they like.
25. Ravens - D. Williams WR Damian is a young Derrick Mason that would fit in immediately. Flacco needs more targets. A successor for Todd Heap [Gresham] could be added here but I like the value of the WR more.
26. Cardinals - J. Hughes OLB An excellent presence off the edge and a great all around athlete. Arizona needs some Tackle help but there is no one, I mean no one, who is even close to this value here. Wait a round.
27. Cowboys - D. Warren CB A pure value pick. Dallas has two excellent corners now, but Newman is getting up there. No LTs or Guards worth a first round pick. This was a tough pick because of what happened earlier.
28. Chargers - T. Cody NT A reach, and in this case, a big reach. But he fits a large need. An every down back like Dwyer could be looked at here, but I don't think they will pick him.
29. Jets - R. Sapp OLB They need an understudy for Pace and Thomas. Maybe Kindle goes here instead. A WR is also a possibility but I think they pass on LaFell now.
30. Vikings - B. Ghee CB Some help for their secondary is necessary. Ghee is a very good sized, fast corner. They will need him against the QBs they will be facing in their division. A small reach for a Safety like Nate Allen or Chad Jones could happen here but the CB is a much better value.
31. Colts - J. Gresham TE As suggested by Indy fans, this is a great match of need and value. I am assuming that he gets a clean bill of health and can show what he can do before the draft. Another DT like Odrick will get a long look too.
32. Saints - E. Griffen DE I am not a fan of this guy but another DE to work with Will Smith would solidify this up and coming defence. Another Linebacker like Weatherspoon would also help for depth and to be an eventual starter.
ROUND TWO
33. Rams - B. LaFell WR The QB needs some weapons and LaFell is a first round talent. Odrick and a CB are considered.
34. Lions - D. McCourty CB I was hoping for Ghee or Wilson but he is the best CB left. If K. Smith's injury is worse than has been let on, Dwyer or Best will be selected here. They still might.
35. Bucs - C. Jones S There are a batch of good receivers available here, but that should mean at least one will be available in the third round. I take Chad Jones, a big safety with amazing potential. Should help against the run and the pass.
36. Chiefs - C. Thomas NT They have spent big over the last few drafts on the D line. Big Cam comes a little cheaper and will help that weak run defence. Spikes is considered, as is Weatherspoon and one of those good receivers.
37. 'Skins - J. Dwyer RB Washington was running on empty due to injuries at the RB position. Portis and Betts are getting up there and new blood is needed. Best is another option.
38. Browns - J. Odrick DE They will use him on the edge where he will be outstanding. Frankly, I doubt he falls this far, but that's the way it worked out.
39. Raiders - L. Houston DT They were terrible against the run and need some talent to go with their outstanding DEs and MLB. Taylor Mays was drooled over. Cooler/saner heads prevailed. Maybe not in real life though.
40. Seahawks - P. Cox CB Seattle upgrades at cornerback. An RB is another need but J. Best is a near clone of the underrated Forsett. Dwyer would have been the choice here if.....maybe next round.
41. Bills - C. Wootton DE Even if Buffalo does not go 3-4, a DE is needed and Wootton looks like he could fill the position in either scheme. J. Best got a good look as a replacement for Marshawn Lynch, and Weatherspoon LB is also a good pick here.
42. Bucs - G. Tate WR This came down to Tate or Benn. I'll give them Tate as he can actually catch the ball which Benn doesn't. Weatherspoon would help the D, but their receivers really stink.
43. Dolphins - S. Kindle OLB A replacement for either Taylor or Porter. Some have him as a first rounder. Not me. A WR would be nice, but maybe next round.
44. Patriots - B. Spikes ILB A very good value here. I did not think of anyone else.
45. Broncos - M. Pouncey C/G They could use him in either position. The D could use some help against the run but I did not see anyone on the D line worth this pick.
46. Giants - N. Allen S A really good solid player. He may turn out to be the best Safety of this very, very good class.
47. Patriots - A. Carrington DE When in doubt, go for the D line. I honestly believe that the Patriots are going to package a few second rounders to move back into the first round. They had a lot of picks last year that they are still trying to work in and they don't need another bunch of rookies. They need a couple of difference makers.
48. Panthers - A. Roberts WR Must get a receiver to pair with Steve Smith. A few of the other WRs could have gone here too.
49. 49ers - J. Best RB A great value here. Ducasse was a possibility but I love the value of this pick for the Niners.
50. Chiefs - A. Benn WR He looked really good as a frosh and soph. The Chiefs hope that is what he is.
51. Texans - V. Ducasse G/T If they want to run, they better upgrade their blockers. This big guy will help.
52. Steelers - T. Mays S The Steelers are the one team that will sit him and bring him along. Lots of potential.
53. Pats again! - A. Hernandez TE Either him or another WR. There are a few good ones around.
54. Bengals - S. Weatherspoon OLB All about the value. D. Jones is not getting any younger, Spoon will allow ReyMa to go back in the middle.
55. Eagles -N. Bowman OLB Another good value pick that helps the Eagles improve their defence. Bowman could have gone in the first.
56. Packers -D. Franks CB He is a solid CB prospect who will help on special teams and be ready to step in to a starting role in a year or two.
57. Ravens - P. Robinson CB I am not crazy about him as a prospect, but he is highly thought of by people who know a lot more than me. A few other CBs could be substituted here.
58. Cardinals - K. Calloway RT An excellent RT who can help this offence out a lot. Too good a fit to look at anything else.
59. Cowboys - M. Burnett S A big Safety that needs some rough edges smoothed out, but is a big upgrade over Hamlin.
60. Chargers - J. McKnight RB An explosive multipurpose back who will take over the #1 RB role. A heavier duty back like A. Dixon would also work, but i think the Chargers go for the speedier guy.
61. Jets - J. Williams WR He looked great at the Senior Bowl and is a solid receiver. More a #2 guy to me, but he fills an important need.
62. Vikings - M. Johnson G A good run blocker to improve the run game performance. An RB could also go here, but I think Chester stays put.
63. Colts - D. Washington MLB A perfect fit for Indy. An understudy to Gary Brackett. A first round value.....at least in my mind.
64. Saints - T. Troup DT The champs, congrats by the way!, could use more depth on the D line interior. He will be a rock against the run and will be a great complement to Sedrick Ellis.
There it is. Sorry for the length of time it took to revise it but I went to the Bahamas for my Brother-in-law's wedding. It was nice to get away from the Canadian winter for a few days.
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This scenario would be crazy value, so of course i Like it
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by firstPick on Feb 8, 2010 2:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know guys.....Bryant just sat out the last year and he is not a great WR prospect anyways.
He might be the best in this class but he is no Calvin or Andre or Larry. IMO. I could see him slip a bit. Ditto for Weatherspoon. I have read that he is a much better fit for the 4-3 teams rather than the 3-4. So the demand on him will be less leading to him slipping back a half a round or so. I think he was optimistically looked at as a very late first round prospect.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You have Dononvan Warren CB going twice.
Maurkice Pouncey is a better pick for Dallas. We have young CBs, plus Newman. We need OGs.
by Flounder69 on Feb 8, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks! Dammit.
I’ll edit it. I obviously got too much sun.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pouncey in the first round is too early. Way too early.
They may be able to get John Jerry in the third or Asamoah there too. Mike Johnson will still be around in the second when they pick again, but that is too early for a Guard like him in my opinion.
Guys available even later would be Mitch Petrus, Sergio Render, Ciron Black [not as a Tackle], Chris Scott, Zane Beadles,Brandon Carter, …..I’m sure there are a lot more.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree it is early and Dallas would trade back in that scenario
CB is not a 1rst round need and drafting pure BPA does not work. Chad Jones would be bPA + need by your draft. Personally I really like John Jerry. I think he may end up being a better pro than Iupati.
by Flounder69 on Feb 9, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Jerry a lot too Flounder.....
and if the Cowboys really need some interior line help I see them doing that in the third round. I don’t know if they would pick one of the Guards or JD Walton for that matter in the second round. Not very good value. I really don’t see much available at this point to play Left Tackle.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 11, 2010 5:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Seahawks' picks
I’m not a big fan of taking an OT at #6 who’s got such a hard time seeing the field. The OL needs to improve, but its not going to be helped if the starting 5 change from week to week. There’s also the talk that Gibbs-coached teams don’t draft OL high (for a number of reasons). If the Hawks do draft an OT, I think Charlie Brown (trading into the late first) or a later-round pick might be a better candidate.
I think the Hawks need to grab a franchise QB when they have the chance. If they think that Bradford is the guy, I think they need to pick him at #6 and give him as much time as they can to sit behind Hasselbeck. If they don’t grade Bradford as a 1st-round QB, then I think they can pass, but any NFL team that wants to be successful in this league needs a solid passing game (or both the #1 running game and #1 defense).
While the Hawks need do need to upgrade the pass rush, I don’t like Dunlap at all. He’s got all the physical tools in the world but doesn’t show the effort or production he should. I’d rather the Hawks take Morgan, JPP or Price here.
by ninjasocks on Feb 8, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree the Seahawks picks don't make sense.
1A – They probably would take Bradford in this mock, if the top 5 fall out like this. Haden and Spiller would be considered. Too many decent OT picks are on the board that the Hwaks do not reach for one right away. There are fewer elite QB, CB, or playmakers available later.
1B – They most likely will take an OT here to shore up depth and eventually start over Locklear and Willis. They still may wait towards later because they run Gibbs’ ZBS. If they decide to address pass rush, Price may be the pick. Price is a much greater upgrade over Colin Cole and Red Bryant than Dunlap (I prefer Morgan) over Kerney, Tapp, and Lo Jackson. Helping create interior pass rush out of the 4-3 is key to its success. If Spiller was available, they may consider him here as well. Forsett has been successful in his opportunities; however, Julius Jones has not show the same success. Spiller could be a feature back and playmaker, allowing Forsett to maintain a similar role as he has now.
2 – McCourty is okay for their needs if you rate him this high.
by bp42810 on Feb 8, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They make sense to me......LOL.
1A – I guess I am projecting that a number of teams are worried about Bradford’s shoulder and don’t rate him worth the risk, especially in the top nine picks. I am not sure if he will even be throwing before the draft.
Denver ignores the flags and takes a gamble at #10. Seattle does not.
1B – I covered my thinking in the write up. I don’t necessarily agree with myself either. Morgan looked like a complete non-factor in the game against Iowa. That was the only game of his I saw and it has obviously coloured my feelings. Both Bulaga and Calloway dominated him.
2 – I changed it to Perrish Cox due to a Donovan double up. When I read about the cornerback rankings in different sites, they are totally mixed up….at least after Haden. We will see how they end up getting drafted.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there are any "right picks" at this point
Draft stock changes a bunch in the last few months, weeks, days and there are always surprises the day of the draft. At this point, I’m not going to rule out any pick, but some picks make more sense than others.
1A – The Hawks’ OL has suffered through a bunch of injuries and the new OL coach/asst head coach has a history of drafting OL late. Drafting an injury-prone OT at #6 doesn’t seem to fit with what the new regime wants to do. They do, however, need a franchise QB and have an extra pick in the first. If they grade Bradford well, I think they need to take him. If, however, they don’t think he’ll pan out, they’ll have to luck out next year with both (1) a top pick and (2) a better prospect.
by ninjasocks on Feb 8, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about them taking Bradford if they grade him in the top five or so.
Campbell’s injuries are minor from what I understand. No major surgery or chronic issues. I am worried about his injury history too.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what you Seahawk fans are saying about Gibbs..........
and how that will determine whether they pick an O lineman early. Carrol’s draft history is not very large. He did pick D. Woody at #17 in 1999.
Carrol’s drafts were not that good frankly. I don’t know how much input he had back then.
I just think that Campbell could be the outstanding LT prospect in this draft. If they don’t go with Bradford or Clausen, I am not sure who gives them good value here.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 8:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can Sean Weatherspoon play ILB in a 3-4 defense?
"I'm tired of hearing
about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok."
Shaquille O'Neal
by JP 23 on Feb 8, 2010 3:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
During the Senior Bowl when he was interviewed he said he’s been talking to alot of 3-4 teams to play ILB. If a team feels strongly enough about it I wouldn’t be surprised to see play inside.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ya, that's been my thinking as well.
If he were to gain about 5-10 Ibs of muscle, he’d make for a GREAT 3-4 ILB. I’ve been studying This kid for the past couple of days and I must say, NO JOKE, he’s the 2nd best
3-4 ILB prospect behind Rolando McClain.
"I'm tired of hearing
about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok."
Shaquille O'Neal
by JP 23 on Feb 8, 2010 6:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked him
But toward the end of the year this year he started falling off a bit. He’s one of those guys that does everything good but nothing great. .
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree, I think he excels in coverage for a LB.
For example, a team like the Dolphins, who had a tough time matching up against athletic TE’s, a guy like Weatherspoon would be a great fit.
"I'm tired of hearing
about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok."
Shaquille O'Neal
by JP 23 on Feb 8, 2010 7:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Well he got burned alot this year in coverage
Weatherspoon is a solid LB, probably play in the NFL for 8 years. But he will never make a Pro Bowl and he shouldnt be the best LB in your corp. Im a Mizzou fan and T Hendricks is right.
by darwithabar on Feb 9, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant that he would play outside LB and ReyMa would move inside to replace Dhani Jones.
Not necessarily this year. If ReyMa can’t stay out of the hoosegow [Jail] Spoon can take his spot.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No I understood what you were saying.
My question actually had nothing to do with your mock I just really wanted to know. Lol
"I'm tired of hearing
about money, money, money, money, money. I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok."
Shaquille O'Neal
by JP 23 on Feb 8, 2010 6:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
As long as he plays WILB in teh 3-4
Weatherspoon would be great! He has good speed and excellent strength and seems to read plays well.
by Flounder69 on Feb 9, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Derrick Morgan...
I just don’t see where he’s playing?
There’s 3 DE’s who the Giants can reasonably count on in 2010. There’s one DT they can reasonably count on in 2010.
I’d go further…but I’ll just leave it at Brian Price would be a better value as there could actually be a starting spot for him.
Derrick Morgan would not start even if he impressed in training camp.
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would not worry about Morgan not starting as a rookie.
If OSI [and his Giant contract] is traded, that will leave two DEs. That is not enough for a team which is aiming for a return to the Super Bowl. Morgan will be worked in if he deserves to be.
If OSI stays, he has only played two complete seasons out of six. Kiwanuka and Tuck are sturdier. Some quality depth at such an important position is a good thing. Especially if there is no better value available. I am not completely sold on Price.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno where you got that stat....
Osi’s been in the league 7 years, he’s played 4 full seasons.
2006 and 2008 were his injury years. His first season in 2003 he was a backup and only got in 13 games.
As long as he doesn’t get a freak injury in TC again…he’s gonna come back with a vengeance.
If they think Morgan can make them have a 4 horsemen line again with Kiwi, Morgan, Tuck, Osi…then OK.
I dunno what makes you not sold on Price. The guy had 23.5 TFL’s and 7 sacks in his junior year where it was basically him on that line alone.
That’s more then Morgan’s 18.5 TFL’s. 7 sacks from the DT spot is similar to 12.5 from the DE spots as well.
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a big Pac 10 fan.
They have some great players, but I don’t believe they have the quality depth that some other conferences have. So the really good players, like Price, really stick out with some amazing stats. He is maxxed out as far as size goes.
I read at least one scouting report that had as a negative that he was already at his peak and it would be very difficult for him to improve. Talk about nit picking.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno man...
there’s plenty of busts from every conference. There’s plenty of successes from smaller schools too.
Pac-10 has no less ‘depth’ then any conference. They aren’t the mountain west conference….
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Pac 10 was down this year
They didnt do well in their bowl games and Defense definitly wasnt their strong suit. The Big 12 had better defense this year then the pac 10, thats not supposed to happen. However, No way I see Brian Price slipping to 20. He will not get passed the giants at 15.
by darwithabar on Feb 9, 2010 6:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, you are right FB. I misread the NFL.com history.
He only started all the games in two seasons. My mistake.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
also...
during the Bowl run and most of 2008…the Giants best DL was actually Fred Robbins, so maybe this is why I want a DT instead of a DE.
Collapsing the middle of the pocket was a huge problem at the end of 2008 (when the D took a dump) and all of 2009.
Not coincidentally, Robbins aged fast and is basically shot.
Gerald McCoy or Suh are probably the closest things to Robbins during that time..and we ain’t getting them (Unless the Lions want Osi and the #15?)
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks from the Lions.
How about Tuck and your # 15?
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
add in Delmas
a 2nd rounder and next year’s first…and you got it ;)
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well constructed draft.
Nothing flashy for the Vikes. Both are need picks. Good job but next time give me a flashy pick like Odrick, Weatherspoon, or Kindle. Good Job.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
by lifelongvike on Feb 8, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Read in the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the Browns are very high on Joe Haden. I’ve had the Browns picking Haden for awhile now and I don’t see that changing.
I understand your reasoning on Buffalo not taking Bradford but I still think he’s the pick they need a face for that franchise.
I think in round 2 the Chargers go Ryan Matthews over McKnight.
IF Mays falls that far I can’t see Al Davis passing on him in round 2. Hell he could be their 1st rounder.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 4:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I am out to lunch here but I don't see the Browns CBs as being that bad.
And unless I am missing something, their ILBs are absolutely brutal. I mean waiver wire fodder bad. Do Brown’s fans think those guys on their depth chart at ILB are NFL worthy?
The Browns were 28th against the run as well as 29th against the pass. And that is with a pretty good pass rush.
I’ll stick with Rolando who also is a very good blitzer.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It also has alot to do if they can retain D’Qwell Jackson. But besides Eric Wright there corners are pretty bad. Wright and Elam are probably the only two in the backfield to return depending on Brodney Pool’s health.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Check out ProFootballFocus. Adams and McDonald are ranked 18 and 19 among all CBs.
That sounds pretty good to me. Wright is 69th.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds great to me
I’ve always thought that Brandon Flowers, Jabari Greer, Terrell Thomas, Tramon Williams, and LaDarius Webb were better than Asomugha. Mike Adams no doubt is better than Asante Samuel.
Of course Vincent Jackson is the best WR in the game. Hell yeah Davone Bess is better than Brandon Marshall. Who wouldn’t take David Anderson, Chaz Schilens, Dwayne Jarrett, Sammie Stroughter, Sam Aiken, Keenan Burton, Greg Camarillo, Jacoby Jones, Davone Bess over DeSean Jackson?
Willie Colon over Ryan Clady, Jordan Gross, and Michael Oher?
Jim Kleinsasser and Chris Baker over Brent Celek?
David Garrard over Tom Brady
Jamaal Charles over Chris Johnson? Is Justin Forsett really the 7th best RB in the league?
Stylez White all day over Jared Allen, Justin Tuck, Mario Williams, and Julius Peppers.
David Vobora over Bart Scott? Aaron Kampman over Elvis Dumervil? Tully Banta Cain over Elvis Dumervil?
Jonathan Babineaux is indeed the best DT in the league. Isreal Idonije all day over Jay Ratliff.
Reed Doughty definitely over Darren Sharper.
Sounds great.
I can honestly say that is the first time I’ve ever went to that site, and it is definitely the last time as well.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wow TJ...
its unheard of for a star to have an average season and a bunch of players to outplay him?
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about?
I’m being sarcastic the whole time in that post. I’ve never been to that site before, I don’t know anything about it, but it doesn’t make sense to me.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh..sarcasm doesn't show up on the interweb.
But if you wanna get a better look at what they’re talking about, use the ‘snaps %’ slider and move it up to 75% snaps.
Also when you sort by say..pass plays, for WR, it sorts out a bit better.
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No thanks
I don’t think I’ll be going to that site ever again. I’ll stick to what fans and newspaper writers, front office personel, etc… have to say instead of that.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough.
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to agree
Those stats are pretty arbitrary.
by Flounder69 on Feb 9, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
they got the top 2 right...
for CB.
Where they really far off on the others?
Rectum? Damn near killed em!
by FreeBradshaw on Feb 8, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did not say it was perfect, it does rely on observations and evaluations by a person,
but I applaud their efforts to attempt to measure how players are actually performing from game to game.
The top three DEs were Freeney, Mathis, and Cole? Any argument there?
Colon took twice as many snaps as Jordan Gross. Of course he is better. Oher is a rookie. He was okay, but he has not shown that he is the next great Tackle yet. As far as Clady is concerned…is it possible he had an off year? He gave up eight sacks. If you believe those stats. Colon gave up six blocking for Ben “Hold it Forever” Roethelisberger. Do you think that is better? Again the top two Tackles are Thomas and Long. Sound about right?
The CBs? The top two were Woodson and Revis with Leon Hall a distant third. Did you look at Flowers’ data? It looks pretty good to me. Do you think those stats are incorrect?
The DTs? I don’t recall that Haynesworth had that great of a year. Same for Kevin Williams. There was not much difference between the top four.
Go ahead and criticize their methodology [I think penalties are weighted too heavily] but don’t dismiss it out of hand because the historical favourites are not shown to be the best at their positions.
Sorry, but without having some kind of independent review of performance results in “part time” players like Jason Peters and Julius Peppers being perennial Pro Bowlers. That is the true joke.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Calling me a joke?
In no way am I trying to change your mind, it’s not like McClain is a horrible pick, but to say they seem fine at corner when the team wants one to come off the bench and this “system” has that corner rated better than Asante Samuel, I just don’t get.
If I’m wrong please let me know but you brought this site up when the war over Okung to Detroit was going on and to me it just seems like you put too much stock into this site.
I’m not dismissing it because of historical favorites, I’m dismissing it because I DONT GET IT. It says run 6.1! What the hell does that mean? I don’t get it, I don’t want to get it. Ive stated time and time again, I don’t watch much NFL I watch roughly 30-35 games a year, that’s 16 Bears games and the playoffs, the rest is just games that intrigues me, I watch college football that’s what I do. But to look at this thing and it says Dwayne Jarrett is better than DeSean Jackson, I find that ridiculous.
Profootballfocus has the Browns at #24 in pass coverage…… that sounds good to you?
I’m not attacking you, if it comes off that way I apologize, I just don’t understand that site, don’t understand how it has Cleveland #24 in pass coverage yet you say sounds good to you, don’t appreciate being called a joke though.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 9, 2010 3:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry tj, I respect your opinion and was not calling you a joke.
Like I said I have issues with their methods too and sometimes I don’t feel that their game evaluations add up with what actually happened on the field.
I do like the idea of a more “independent” game by game performance review, even with all its obvious flaws.
I don’t rely on it but use it to help identify team strengths and weaknesses. I did accept the word of Jag fans regarding the play of Derek Cox at CB even though he is ranked the second worst CB in the PFF rankings and I have read some negative reports on him on some NFL sites.
All is good. Sorry if I came off defensive.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 6:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the ratings are subjective stats based on grading each player from "film"
And TV cameras do a lousy job of capturing the action in the secondary. The ratings are all normalized to 0, so an average player has a rating of 0, a good player has a rating > 0 and a bad player has a rating < 0. The source of the grades aren’t clear at all.
by ninjasocks on Feb 9, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Snelling 7 spots higher than Peterson.
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 8, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be Fair, Brandon Flowers had the 4th or 5th most pass defenses in the league
and Jamal Chalres Out Played CJ in the last half of the season by a mile, but I will grant you those sites are dumb.
by darwithabar on Feb 9, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Notes from the article
Yes, Florida cornerback Joe Haden is very attractive to the Browns, who want to add at least three defensive backs between the draft and free agency. The coaches believe they have only two legitimate starters in the secondary — Eric Wright and Abe Elam
The Browns had 10 interceptions last season — four by Pool, whose future is in question. The average NFL team had 16. Only three teams — St. Louis, Detroit and Oakland — had fewer interceptions.
I confess to not understanding all the formulas used in the profootballfocus.com rating system, but they rated the Browns at No. 6 in pressuring quarterbacks. Yet they were No. 24 in pass coverage, which is exactly how the team sees the problem.
The Browns believe Wright can develop into a top-10 cornerback. They thought he did a solid job in coverage, but his casual approach to tackling was disturbing. They did see some improvement near the end of the season
That’s why in the middle of the season the Browns just benched McDonald and started backup safety Michael Adams at cornerback. They respected Adams’ preparation and toughness, even though he lacks the physical attributes to be an above-average cornerback
So in the plans for next season are Wright, Elam and Adams. But they want Adams as a reserve, and would like to add at least two starters and a couple of backups.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wright and Elam are good, so is Pool if he is back.
Adams is a backup and McDonald is a nickel back
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 8, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, our ILBs are possibly the best part of our D. Besides Nose Tackle.
by TheRealSlimShady on Feb 8, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Maybe I missed something but your depth chart at the end of the year did not look very good at ILB.
And the success teams had running the ball also indicated to me that the ILBs were weak.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As chiefs fan this draft make’s me want to jump of a bridge or something. I can live with the berry pick but after that come on Cam Thomas in the 2nd when you still have good linebackers and linemen out. In terms of value this is not a good draft for KC.
by BiRed#58 on Feb 8, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Was Tyson Jackson a value pick?
Cam Thomas has stock going up right now. While I have him as a solid 3rd round guy, it is not out of the question to think that he can move into the 2nd round range with combine/pro days coming up.
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TJ
Cam Thomas will not get picked in the top 40 and me and you both know that. Thats a horrible pick. Tyson Jackson, believe it or not, was a top 12 pick for sure. He was a reach at 3 but both Clevland and Denver had both shown intrest. Cam Thomas may go in the late 2nd but not at pick 36. He will not blow people away at the combine either.
by darwithabar on Feb 9, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are pretty sure about this stuff aren't you?
Cam Thomas surprised everyone with his performance at the Senior Bowl. Every site that covered the week commented on his strong performance. I am not sure why you say he will not blow anyone away at the combine. Do you know something that no one else knows? Can you see into the future?
I appreciate your comments, but how about suggesting a better value pick than Thomas? And maybe some reasoning behind your pick.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I saw a crying need for a Nose Tackle and a very good player to play it for you.
I mentioned Spikes and ’Spoon but you need the NT more.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
Personally, I would rather see them take Pouncey at pick 36. Then go for Torell Troup in the 3rd (4th?) round. I do dig the Berry pick though. Thank you for not giving us Okung. that crap gets real old.
by The Insider on Feb 8, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, I have visited the KC site a number of times and picked up that feeling very quickly.
I don’t know how the gurus and others go from praising Albert one year, then looking to replace him the next.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
JPP is a mystery to me right now
I agree that his combine numbers are going to leave some GMs drooling, but have you seen an interview with this kid? He has trouble putting together and expressing a coherent thought. I think the interviews will scare a lot of the same people who are excited by his numbers.
by Naptime! on Feb 8, 2010 4:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not Al Davis
McShay, Todd McShay you hear me boy? It's me TJ and I'm coming for your damn job boy! Oh be scared, be very scared McShay.
by tj.hendricks on Feb 8, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing when I wrote that
But that’s pretty much a given, that Davis is the exception to every rule.
by Naptime! on Feb 8, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Naptime.
But a lot of coaches and GMs seem to believe that they are the guys that can squeeze every last drop of potential out of a player. And JPP has all the physical tools that they want to see in a DE. The same goes for Dunlap.
I prefer to weigh a player’s actual production too. Sometimes I wonder if the NFL scouts do.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Robert Mathis wasn't exactly articulate on media day though.
there are some positions that you don’t need to be a rocket surgeon for.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 9, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
He seems fairly well spoken now. Really weird, but well spoken.
by Naptime! on Feb 9, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it was just the one clip
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 9, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cardinals 2nd round pick.
Curious about the reasoning for a RT instead of a LT. The Cardinals have a veteran RT whom was drafted with the intent of playing for a south paw QB. The LT position is where they need immediate upgrading. It is possible they move Levi Brown to the other side but suspect. More likely they will put the less experienced player on the side the QB sees, the vet on his blind side.
by hadrarius on Feb 8, 2010 5:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There are absolutely no LTs worth a shot at their second round spot.
Better to fill one of the spots, because both are in bad shape, than reach for an LT that can’t handle the job.
IMO Capers, Young, Beadles, and Black are not capable of handling that job. Fox has far too many injury questions to pick here.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't argue
with this since these were the same two picks I made in our Mock Draft for the Skins
by ENsDad27 on Feb 8, 2010 6:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
C'Mon Man - argue with yourself. We won't mind.
Good Job on that draft ENsDad
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by lifelongvike on Feb 8, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haden>Thomas
If we drafted Haden, a top 10 talent. we would satisfy two needs
#1: Cornerback Depth: We would have 3 Good CBs.
#2: We could move mathis to S and take Reggie Nelson off the field. If Haden or Derek Coxs gets injured Rashean Mathis could take their place.
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by TheTealDeal on Feb 8, 2010 8:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I guess I think that a top ten pick should have a starting spot ready to move into.
The Jags can’t afford to leave a talent like that on the bench or bench another quality starter to allow him to play.
Can Mathis make the switch? Like I said, I would have drafted Haden there except for the supposed strength of Mathis and Cox at CB. Why not draft a great talent and play him at the position he is best at?
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 8, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like the Iupati pick
But we can’t afford to groom Mays. Clark is 30 Carter is 33 and both are FAs. Clark will be but Carter won’t. With Troy style of play murder on his body, the backup needs to be ready to play by his 2nd season. We’d take Burnett, but if we could get Mays in later rounds we would take him.
I getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
by Steel in FL on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow no way Kindle falls that far.
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by Patssuck456 on Feb 8, 2010 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have read on a few sites that he is not very physical.
He does not hold up at all against the run and is blocked fairly easily. In a word “soft”.
That sounds to me like a guy who will fall. Falling to the second round in this draft class is not a terrible thing anyway.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 6:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Love
the Bengals getting Dez Byrant in the first but not so buzzed about Weatherspoon in the 2nd. He does seem like the type of LB we’d like to get… its just we have Keith Rivers in the WLB spot and i can’t see Weatherspoon being physical or big enough to hande SAM responsibilities. Plus the SAM spot in Lewis/Zimmer’s scheme is a converted passrush-DE. (someone like Kindle would fit the bill).
Another possibility is a S. Our two biggest needs are S and WR. If we get Byrant in the first then Burnett in the second would be a great start to our draft.
by Sheffieldbengal on Feb 9, 2010 7:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want a tackle more than anything
but if none are there and Gresham is, I’d be happy. He’ll be so much better than Gijon Robinson. Just imagine what the Colts could have done to the Saints nickel with a Wayne, Garçon, Clark, Gresham, Addai/Brown combo.
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
by shake n bake on Feb 9, 2010 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It seems like you kinda have an agenda North
I really dont see Clausen going number 1 overall. Alot of scouts say he might fall out of the top 10. The Rams will take Suh. Also, You dont have the Lions taking a LT. Im sorry but Backus is not going to get any better. I know the Lions org. came out and said they think Backus can still play, but I highly doubt they pass up O Kung or a LT later in the draft. He has given up so many sacks in the last 5 years, how could they pass up a quality LT. Even if they draft Suh in the 1st, I could see them taking a LT in the 2nd, even reaching for one. They neglected it last year and it got their franchise guy hurt. I just dont see the faith you have in Backus, im sorry.
by darwithabar on Feb 9, 2010 6:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They passed all those quality LTs last year, right? Some of them twice or three times.
Does every team have a “franchise” LT? No. Teams have limited resources and try to do the best they can with who they have and what they can reasonably obtain. Backus is an average to above average NFL LT. When you add in his amazing durability he is the kind of player that you don’t rush out to replace unless you have no other holes.
The LTs after Charles Brown. around pick 25 or so, flat out stink as prospects. I would not draft an LT after the first six until the fourth round. Roger Saffold is about the most interesting project of the LTs after the first six. Calloway is an RT only. The rest are definite reaches before the fourth round.
According to you and the WalterFootball gurus the Lions should take Okung at #2. Period. That will not solve their O Line problems and add a huge amount of salary with little short term return. Longer term that might work out, but I think the Lions can delay a Left Tackle move until 2011 or take a guy like Saffold in the fifth round or so to develop over a year or two. I think that’s what they were trying to do with Murtha, but the Dolphins signed him off their practice squad.
They have an opportunity to make a great upgrade to their D Line now, and stabilize their O Line with one of the top Guards [Pouncey or Jerry]. Anyone who picks one of the non top six LTs in the second round is really reaching. Capers, Young, Fox, or Black? Come on!
dwb, you can go ahead and mock the Lions taking multiple O Tackles if that is what you believe, but I do not see that happening unless one of the top six drops to #34 or if the Lions trade out of the #2 pick and add multiple first rounders. Then maybe, but I highly doubt it.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 9, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We arent gping QB
with the first overall pick. This throws off not only the Rams but the Lions as well. Possibly the Bucs and Skins or whomever really gets Bradford.
by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2010 12:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Mr. Devaney.
Look, in my opinion it is pretty much a coin flip which way they will go. I chose the route that historically has been taken by teams with the first pick and will be the long term best move for the franchise. We will see.
As I said, I don’t care about the Lions getting Suh as I believe McCoy is a better fit for our team in some respects [pass rushing]. So whoever the Rams pick, Detroit will have an elite DT to take.
Why don’t you take Dan’s challenge and post your own mock?
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 10, 2010 5:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm entertained enough by yours
Don’t be so cynical towards those of us whom disagree with you?
by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't have a problem with anyone disagreeing with me.......
how about providing some reasoning behind your beliefs?
I have gone onto the Rams SB Site and read numerous posts that are pleading for a QB at #1. They cite your drafting history of mostly linemen and everything but QBs, and how that has led you to this point in time. Those “safe” picks have not worked out, and dodging the selection of a QB early in the first round will only prolong your stay near the bottom. Us Lions fans know that better than anyone. Without a QB your team will go nowhere.
So, unless the Rams plan to get an expensive FA, like they did with Trent Green, or get lucky and stumble onto a UFA, like Kurt Warner or Marc Bulger, then they need to draft a QB. I think they will do it at #1 rather than wait until #33. You disagree, although I have no idea how you see the Rams resolving their QB problem.
Yes, I don’t like it when I get comments that say we won’t do this or won’t do that and not explain any further. And yes, I realize that will impact the rest of the mock draft. It may change the #33 pick for sure [Tebow, Colt McCoy, Snead, Pike?] or not at all. Who knows? Its just a mock.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 10, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been argued back and forth enough
If you, as you say, have gone to the Rams Blog and read up on the pros and cons, then you don’t need any more explanation. It’s all over there. I don’t need to repeat myself, but the rest of your draft really does get affected by that one pick. I think we go a different direction and I think you, as Dar says, seem to have an agenda. You’re trying to convince yourself as much as any of us here that we are going to go QB. If we do, you say you would rather have McCoy, but you mock yourself Suh. How am I supposed to take you seriously?
by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Taking a Mock seriously? Hmmmmm, sounds like an oxymoron.
So to summarize, I am attempting to influence the Rams FO and fan base to choose Jimmy Clausen at #1 by posting a Mock Draft that does that. Interesting theory.
I agree that a change in an early pick does influence some other picks, but only if the pick is a huge reach that ends up pushing back more “valuable” players. It will also impact the next round if the pick of the reaching team is “different” or another reach because of the first pick.
ie. If the Rams take Suh, then reach for Colt McCoy at #33 for their QB of the future it will allow Detroit and other teams to potentially claim a more valuable player than they might have originally, considering that Colt is probably third round material [at best]. I agree with that.
Frankly, I am expecting that more than a few of these projections will not come true.
by NorthLeft12 on Feb 10, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I said convince yourself
Not our FO or fanbase, yourself. I’ll expect the Rams to address our QB ‘problem’ some other way than the first overall pick in this draft. I’m sure you won’t be convinced if I spell out other options. I just thought I’d further emphasize my disagreeance with a QB as the first overall pick. You know as well as I what those options may be. We’ve heard them all ad nauseum.
I will flame with you no more forever.
by dbcouver on Feb 10, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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