3 Round Mock (Updated 3/10)
by jmztitans2 on Mar 10, 2010 3:46 PM EST
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I'd appreciate any comments/suggestions you have.
Also, if you say you dislike a pick, please make a suggestion of a player or players you would like at that pick instead.
1st Round
1. St. Louis Rams -- Sam Bradford (QB, Oklahoma)
2. Detroit Lions -- Ndamukong Suh (DT, Nebraska)
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Gerald McCoy (DT, Oklahoma)
4. Washington Redskins -- Russell Okung (T, Oklahoma State)
5. Kansas City Chiefs -- Eric Berry (S, Tennessee)
6. Seattle Seahawks -- C.J. Spiller (HB, Clemson)
7. Cleveland Browns -- Dez Bryant (WR, Oklahoma State)
8. Oakland Raiders -- Jason Pierre-Paul (DE, South Florida)
9. Buffalo Bills -- Anthony Davis (T, Rutgers)
10. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Rolando McClain (ILB/OLB, Alabama)
11. Denver Broncos -- Brandon Graham (DE/OLB, Michigan)
12. Miami Dolphins -- Dan Williams (DT, Tennessee)
13. San Francisco 49ers -- Trent Williams (T, Oklahoma)
14. Seattle Seahawks -- Charles Brown (T, USC)
15. New York Giants -- Brian Price (DT, UCLA)
16. Tennessee Titans -- Derrick Morgan (DE, Georgia Tech)
17. San Francisco 49ers -- Earl Thomas (S/CB, Texas)
18. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Mike Iupati (G/RT, Idaho)
19. Atlanta Falcons -- Everson Griffen (DE, USC)
20. Houston Texans -- Kyle Wilson (CB, Boise State)
21. Cincinnati Bengals -- Jermaine Gresham (TE, Oklahoma)
22. New England Patriots -- Sergio Kindle (DE/OLB, Texas)
23. Green Bay Packers -- Bryan Bulaga (T, Iowa)
24. Philadelphia Eagles -- Sean Weatherspoon (OLB, Missouri)
25. Baltimore Ravens -- Joe Haden (CB/S, Florida)
26. Arizona Cardinals -- Jerry Hughes (OLB, TCU)
27. Dallas Cowboys -- Maurkice Pouncey (G/C, Florida)
28. San Diego Chargers -- Ryan Mathews (RB, Fresno State)
29. New York Jets -- Jared Odrick (DT/DE, Penn State)
30. Minnesota Vikings -- Kareem Jackson (CB, Alabama)
31. Indianapolis Colts -- Lamaar Houston (DT, Texas)
32. New Orleans Saints -- Daryl Washington (OLB/ILB, TCU)
2nd Round
33. St. Louis Rams -- Golden Tate (WR, Notre Dame)
34. Detroit Lions -- Jahvid Best (RB, California)
35. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Carlos Dunlap (DE, Florida)
36. Kansas City Chiefs -- Brandon Spikes (ILB, Florida)
37. Washington Redskins -- Jonathan Dwyer (RB, Georgia Tech)
38. Cleveland Browns -- Jimmy Clausen (QB, Notre Dame)
39. Oakland Raiders -- Bruce Campbell (T, Maryland)
40. Seattle Seahawks -- Devin McCourtey (CB, Rutgers)
41. Buffalo Bills -- Terrence Cody (DT, Alabama)
42. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Arrelious Benn (WR, Illinois)
43. Miami Dolphins -- Taylor Mays (S, USC)
44. New England Patriots -- Demaryius Thomas (WR, Georgia Tech)
45. Denver Broncos -- Damian Williams (WR, USC)
46. New York Giants -- Roger Saffold (T/G, Indiana)
47. New England Patriots -- Alex Carrington (3-4 DE, Arkansas State)
48. Carolina Panthers -- Mardy Gilyard (WR, Cincinnati)
49. San Francisco 49ers -- Ricky Sapp (DE/OLB, Clemson)
50. Kansas City Chiefs -- Navaorro Bowman (OLB, Penn State)
51. Houston Texans -- Toby Gerhart (RB, Stanford)
52. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Patrick Robinson (CB, Florida State)
53. New England Patriots -- Montario Hardesty (RB, Tennessee)
54. Cincinnati Bengals -- Brandon LaFell (WR, LSU)
55. Philadelphia Eagles -- Nate Allen (S, South Florida)
56. Green Bay Packers -- Chris Cook (CB, Virginia)
57. Baltimore Ravens -- Anthony McCoy (TE, USC)
58. Arizona Cardinals -- Perrish Cox (CB, Oklahoma State)
59. Dallas Cowboys -- Chad Jones (S, LSU)
60. San Diego Chargers -- Cam Thomas (NT, North Carolina)
61. New York Jets -- Taylor Price (WR, Ohio)
62. Minnesota Vikings -- Colt McCoy (QB, Texas)
63. Indianapolis Colts -- Jared Veldheer (T, Hillsdale)
64. New Orleans Saints -- Tyson Alualu (DT, California)
3rd Round
65. St. Louis Rams -- Arthur Jones (DT, Syracuse)
66. Detroit Lions -- Jon Asamoah (G, Illinois)
67. Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Riley Cooper (WR, Florida)
68. Washington Redskins -- Forfeited for 2009 Supplemental Draft Pick
69. Kansas City Chiefs -- Jordan Shipley (WR, Texas)
70. Oakland Raiders -- Eric Norwood (OLB, South Carolina)
71. Philadelphia Eagles -- Corey Wooton (DE, Northwestern)
72. Cleveland Browns -- Aaron Hernandez (TE, Florida)
73. Buffalo Bills -- Tim Tebow (QB/FB/H-back/TE, Florida)
74. Miami Dolphins -- Dexter McCluster (WR/RB, Mississippi)
75. Jacksonville Jaguars -- Rob Gronkowski (TE, Arizona)
76. Chicago Bears -- Tony Washington (T, Abilene Christian)
77. New York Giants -- Dennis Pitta (TE, BYU)
78. Tennessee Titans -- Brandon Ghee (CB, Wake Forrest)
79. Carolina Panthers -- Mike Neal (DT, Purdue)
80. San Francisco 49ers -- Eric Decker (WR, Minnesota)
81. Denver Broncos -- J.D. Walton (C, Baylor)
82. Houston Texans -- Larry Asante (S, Nebraska)
83. Pittsburgh Steelers -- Thaddeus Gibson (OLB, Ohio State)
84. Atlanta Falcons -- Rennie Curan (OLB, Georgia)
85. Cincinnati Bengals -- Reshad Jones (S, Georgia)
86. Oakland Raiders -- Vladimir Ducasse (G, Massachusetts)
87. Green Bay Packers -- Joe McKnight (RB, USC)
88. Philadelphia Eagles -- Dominique Franks (CB, Oklahoma)
89. Arizona Cardinals -- Al Woods (NT, LSU)
90. Arizona Cardinals -- Kyle Calloway (T, Iowa)
91. Dallas Cowboys -- Sean Lee (ILB, Penn State)
92. San Diego Chargers -- Greg Hardy (DE, Mississippi)
93. Cleveland Browns -- Koa Misi (DE/OLB, Utah)
94. Minnesota Vikings -- Zane Beadles (G, Utah)
95. Indianapolis Colts -- Jimmy Graham (TE, Miami)
96. New Orleans Saints -- Ed Dickson (TE, Oregon)
Best Players Avaliable
QB
Dan LeFevour (QB, Central Michigan)
Jarrett Brown (QB, West Virginia)
Tony Pike (QB, Cincinnati)
Jevan Snead (QB, Mississippi)
HB
Anthony Dixon (RB, Mississippi State)
WR
Jeremy Williams (WR, Tulane)
Mike Williams (WR, Syracuse)
Andre Roberts (WR, Citadel)
TE
Colin Peek (TE, Alabama)
Dorin Dickerson (TE, Pittsburgh)
T
Jason Fox (T, Miami)
Chris Scott (RT/G, Tennessee)
Selvish Capers (T, West Virginia)
G/C
Mike Johnson (G, Alabama)
John Jerry (G, Mississippi)
Mitch Petrus (G, Arkansas)
Sergio Render (G, Virginia Tech)
Shawn Lauvao (G, Arizona State)
Chris Scott (RT/G, Tennessee)
DE
Willie Young (DE, NC State)
George Selvie (DE, South Florida)
DT
D’Anthony Smith (DT, Louisiana Tech)
Geno Atkins (DT, Georgia)
Vince Oghobaase (DT, Duke)
Arthur Moats (DT, James Madison)
OLB
Perry Riley (OLB, LSU)
Jason Worilds (DE/OLB, Virginia Tech)
Jermaine Cunningham (DE/OLB, Florida)
O’Brien Schofield (OLB, Wisconsin)
A.J. Edds (OLB, Iowa)
Roddrick Muckelroy (DE/OLB, Texas)
Brandon Lang (DE/OLB, Troy)
ILB
Pat Angerer (ILB, Iowa)
Darryl Sharpton (ILB, Miami)
CB
Amari Spievey (CB, Iowa)
Javier Arenas (CB, Alabama)
Jerome Murphy (CB, South Florida)
Syd’Quan Thompson (CB, California)
Myron Lewis (CB, Vanderbilt)
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah (CB, Indiana (PA))
S
T.J. Ward (S, Oregon)
Kam Chancellor (S, Virginia Tech)
Major Wright (S, Florida)
Darrell Stuckey (S, Kansas)
Morgan Burnett (S, Georgia Tech)
Justin Woodall (S, Alabama)
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I'm OK with Price..not thrilled
would rather have others.
Really like the Saffold pick.
Hate the Pitta pick. Good prospect, we have Travis Beckum as our H-Back/bench warmer
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Who would you rather have
there instead of Pitta?
1) Jamar Chaney MLB
2) Reshad Jones S
3) Morgan Burnett S
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 10, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
You just got Antrel Rolle
and you have Kenny Phillips, so I didn’t see S as a need for you guys…when I redo this I’ll think about giving you Sean Lee (ILB, Penn State) though….Jamar Chaney is the MLB from Kentucky, right? I think he ran a 4.8+ at the combine, but I’ll check on that before I redo this later
Kenny Phillips was on IR last year with microfracture surgery, he can’t be relied on. Signing Rolle doesn’t take away from safety being a need. 2nd or 3rd round still.
Chaney ran a 4.5, fastest among LB’s in the darft, and he’s from Mississippi State.
I don’t like Sean Lee.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 10, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Thats crazy
Everybody should like Sean Lee. you must be a Buckeye fan. lol
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by Talon Talent on Mar 11, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
We agree to disagree
But where in the 1st do you think he would go?
I think the Redskins and Bills will take a tackle (the Bills may take a DT), the Seahawks have bigger needs at T and either and offensive or defensive playmaker like Spiller or JPP, the 49ers are happy enough with Alex Smith, the Cardinals give Leinart a shot, the Vikings probably like Tavaris more than Clausen…I think he could go 7 to Cleveland or 10 to Jacksonville, but I just don’t think they will…I don’t think he’s a top 10 caliber QB
I think the Seahawks would with one of their picks.
THe skins have a good chance.
The 9ers might cuz they brought in Carr to challenge Smith.
Vikes would definitley.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 10, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
id say seahawks most likely
Skins really hard to say.
The other two I don’t see drafting a QB unless it is in the later rounds.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
Tarvaris Jackson more than Clausen for the Vikes?
I think you should check out that the Vikes thought so much of Tarvaris Jackson that they put a THIRD round tender on him for his RFA tender. The actions of the Vikes tell you that he is not the QBOF. If Clausen gets within shouting distance of Clausen the Vikes would move up and grab him in an instant.
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by lifelongvike on Mar 11, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
the knocking of Jimmy Clausen is laughable.
Its amazing just how remaining absent largely from the offseason has made him an afterthought in some minds.
I dunno how Bradford has leaped over him for the top QB either.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 11, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
To drop even the 2nd best QB out of the first round with no explainable reason is weak.
I mean I have my opinions on players that don’t agree with the experts. But at least I try and have reasons for my disagreement.
Bradford sure looks talented to me but I think he is injury suspect. I always worry about QBs with shoulder injuries. Bigger lineman hitting that guy could cause a lifelong string of shoulder problems. Clausen simply fits the mold of a NFL QB.
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by lifelongvike on Mar 11, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
My reasons
He never won a big game
He has average accuracy
He has average arm strength
He’s an average leader
I just don’t think he’ll be very good. Look, its a mock draft, feel free to disagree, make your own mock, and I’ll probably be proven wrong, I know that, but this is what I think will happen
I like the two picks you made for Seattle
but if Clausen falls to 14 I think they’ll take him. I actually think they might do it at #6, and I doubt he falls out of the first round altogether.
I keep hearing people regurgitate the same things
Show me proof that he has AVERAGE accuracy. Tell me how you know he’s an average leader. You’re basing your opinions off of hearsay and other people’s speculation.
Clausen a 2nd round pick? Anyone who thinks that has this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_retardation
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hey watch it that aint necessary its his opinion that he knows likely is wrong.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
If he really thinks that
what the #### is he doing posting a mock draft? Im sorry, but that is just ridiculous. its a thin line having a “different” opinion and simply not knowing anything. what’s next, suh is a 2nd rounder because he never won a big game?
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
No he wouldn't do that. I don't like the reasons he gives for it or even some of the picks for the Colts as has been descussed but we don't need to start attacking people. Seriously i recommend that stops now
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
Manning never one the big game so it really doesn't hold much wait that statement
/just saying
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
MoveTheSticks
I former scout for the Ravens and Brows, did a mock draft and left Clausen out. So, you disagree with me, and thats fine, but its not like I’m completely on my own here. I guy on nfl.com also left Clausen out of the 1st. I accept that I’m going out on a limb and could be wrong, we’ll see
You think Clausen's a 2nd rounder?
That explains why you are a former scout. Do you have something against the guy? He is kind of a d bag, but he can play. I’m not even a Notre Dame fan and actually dislike Clausen but even I think that is ridiculous
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I'm not a former scout
sorry, a former scout…and the ravens drafted pretty damn well when he was there…look, we agree to disagree, and you don’t have to like this mock draft if you don’t want to, there are plenty more on this sight
Read this.
http://walterfootball.com/mattblog091229.php
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I understand that I just thought id point out that the not winning a big game wasn't a great reason :)
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I hear ya
and on its own it wouldn’t be a great reason, but it’s just something to take into consideration. P.S. I may be a bit late to the live draft but should make it by 2 ET…how do I send you my BPA list?
Email me. My email is at the bottom of the thread posted by quincyyyyy in the fanposts i believe
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
I WILL say and don't think anyone has mentioned
that Seattle is even more likely almost a garuntee to take a QB since they just got rid of there backup to Matt Hassleback
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
nfl.com sucks. Why not just say that a pre-schooler had him drop out of the 1st.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 11, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, cuz 68% in a pro-style offense is only average.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 11, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
How about ESPN.com?
Scouts Inc. now has Clausen as the 38th best prospect and only an 88 (Bradford, by contrast is 95). We agree to disagree, but its not completely irrational to not have Clausen in the 1st, at least in my opinion
Jaguars pick
1st – Mcclain – Good
3rd -Gronkowski – Why? We got like 3 TE’s – Marcedes Lewis, Ernest Wilford, 6th round pick Zack Miller. Come on, Man.
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My reasoning
was that your TEs, even though you have 3, aren’t that good, and Gronkowski is supposed to be 2nd round good but fell in my mock. Who do you think they take there instead? a QB? a CB? a S? a 2nd RB?
Marcedes is a good TE, just not elite like Antonio Gates was/is
Personally, I’d get a QB (Tebow, Lefevour, whoever).
the best player among all those positions would be good because they all would fit a need.
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+1
Armanti Edwards? I’d be cool with that too.
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Marcedes Lewis...
Lewis is considered to be one of the best blocking TEs in the league. Also, his catching stats are on par with some of the “best” TEs in the league (see my article on BCC if you have time: http://www.bigcatcountry.com/2010/2/17/1315190/question-mark-players-what-to).
Zach Miller, towards the end of the year, became a good offensive target. I think he’ll be a great pass catching TE. Wilford is a converted WR who also blocks well. TE might be something the Jags pick up, but not likely until later.
With how your draft plays out, I’d say the Jags might grab Walton from Baylor. The Center position was the weakest on the line last year, and while they /may/ stick with current starter Brad Meester, a developmental guy or someone who could come right in and play would be good.
Overall, great mock.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
I really appreciate the suggestion and will change the Jags 3rd round pick soon
I'm defending your pick because it's BAP
But I’m definitely going to disagree with the idea that our tight ends aren’t that good.
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I draw the line at 3 TE's
Tight ends are not at a premium. You will not help yourself by having 4 TE’s. I can understand the arguement about say drafting another tackle and moving Britton to Guard but not 4 TE’s. Its not value, it’s a wasted pick.
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I think
#s are irrelevant…you would cut a TE. If the Jags think Gronkowski would make your offense more dynamic and would improve your team and is BPA they may take him…having said that, I think the previous suggestions have been valid, and I’ll probably change their 3rd round pick to another position when I redo this draft
I understand your reasons.
A person cannot hope to know enough about every NFL team to make the best pick each time, but you did a great job selecting the BAP.
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 10, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ernest Wilford would be cut
It’s pretty simple. His role is limited as a receiving tight end. Gronkowski would do more for the passing game than Wilford by a lot and could develop into quite a blocker as well.
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I'm a BAP guy but
I don’t like the idea of a TE in the 3rd.
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My opinion is half BAP, half common sense. I agree, a tight end wouldn’t make sense.
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I hear you guys
and will change the pick soon
Its all good man
I had to do the same thing with a few of my picks in my recent mock.
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From the guys you had available
I could see the Jaguars going with Mike Neal, J.D. Walton or Sean Lee.
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Neal is great, Walton would help in a big way.
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No Joke
Then we could kick Meester to the curb.
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that sums it up nicely.
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by TheTealDeal on Mar 10, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
They probably would have
before today, but they just signed Marlin Jackson
Jackson is coming off a torn ACL and they've told him he'll be playing safety
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by shake n bake on Mar 10, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
So they need CB
more than OLB? A lot of it probably depends on what Haden runs in the 40 at his pro day. If he runs a 4.6 again, a team that drafts him I think would have to have a need at safety too, because they’d probably try him at corner first but then move him if need be (like the Saints will probably do with that Ohio State CB they drafted last year..don’t remember his name). With the Eagles, if Haden can’t play CB, they are stuck, and would regret not taking Weatherspoon. With the Ravens, if he can’t play CB they move him to S when Ed Reed retires.
The Eagles value DBs and D-Lineman far more then LBs if there is a talent like Haden on the board they are not going to pass him up. They usually take the highest rated player, Haden in a lot of mocks even after the slow 40 time is still in the Top 10. Also three of the Eagles starting DBs are already 30 or close to it, it might be time to get some players for the future.
The issue I have
is that in Joe Haden you may want to be drafting a CB but may actually be drafting a S if he is too slow to play CB. Would you rather have McCourtey or Weatherspoon?
Although we do value our Lines more and then DB's
If Haden performed poorly enough to drop out of the top 15, we will probably have made the same adjustments.
The only other player I could see would be possible Pouncey but we will roll with the Weatherspoon pick because I could see that being a definite possibility. The 2nd with Nate Allen is very nice. After that though I would move Wooton and replace him with Greg hardy (I am convinced we trade back into the 2nd round with the Jets to pick him up, so getting him in the third would be gravy) I then would remove Franks, since our CB’s while getting old aren’t a chief concern. With that pick I could see them getting John Jerry. Legend might be right about the Haden being picked if he is there, but like I said if he warrants being dropped out of the top 15, our scouts will most likely have seen the same thing and dismiss him as well.
Still laughing at Clausen getting dropped to the 2nd though. I mean I understand why, I think he is going to be a bust, but I just don’t see the Seahawks passing him up if he is indeed still there with their 2nd 1st rounder.
Overall nicely done though.
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by Talon Talent on Mar 11, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions
The issue I have is that in Joe Haden you may want to be drafting a CB but may actually be drafting a S if he is too slow to play CB. Would you rather have McCourtey or Weatherspoon?
If you are giving us Nate Allen in the second round why does that matter? Haden is a better football player.
our scouts will most likely have seen the same thing and dismiss him as well.
For one Andy Reid makes the decisions on draft day with help from Howie Roseman and two Jeremy Maclin was suppose to be a top ten pick last year but he fell to 19 until we traded up two spots did we dismiss him?
Also on SC today it was reported that Haden supposedly had a back strain at the combine. Don’t if it is 100% true or not but if it is he will most likely run a better 40 at his pro day
Colts
Not a fan of either of the 1st 2 picks. I think both are reaches.
In the first I like Devin McCourty (not Jason, his brother, a late round pick last year) way better.
In the 2nd I like Chad Jones, and Corey Wootton there a ton.
Jimmy Graham isn’t the kind of TE they need. Graham has a high ceiling, but they need a guy that can step right in and be the in-line, blocking, guy. Graham is a project and not a very good blocker right now. I like Worlids and Jason Fox way better.
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Do you think
they might take an OLB, Sean Weatherspoon, if he fell to them? My understanding is that they really like their young CBs. I would have given them Dunlap there, but don’t think he is the type of player (lazy, etc) that the Colts would draft. Also, they have 3 almost-Pro Bowl if not Pro Bowl caliber safeties, why would they take Chad Jones in the 2nd?
Thanks for the suggestion on Graham, I’ll keep that in mind when I redo my mock, although if they could go 2 TEs with two major weapons, that would be really dangerous is Graham develops.
I think Weatherspoon is possible, but down the list, since they have Brackett under contract for 5 years now and they haven’t put much value into OLB since the switch to the Tampa-2. I’d pick Weatherspoon over a reach, but not before OL or defensive value.
Chad Jones is big and physical enough to play LB for them and safety might be a major need next year since Sanders can’t be counted on to be available and both Bethea and Bullitt are on one year RFA tenders. If there’s a cap in 2011 both with be UFAs.
Another receiving TE would be very dangerous, but they have quality 4 WRs and Clark so really the only opening at the skill positions is for an upgrade from Gijon Robinson as the in-line TE.
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by shake n bake on Mar 10, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I actually really really like Lamaar Houston
But fair enough. Hypothetically, if not McCourtey, who do you think they would take there?
I would have
given them Odrick but he’s gone, Price but he’s gone, Pouncey but he’s gone, any of the 1st round caliber tackles but except for Bruce Campbell who is an athletic freak but not good on tape they are all gone…etc
Sapp as a backup edge rusher or reach for Saffold
if that was the real draft I’d be begging for a trade back in that spot.
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by shake n bake on Mar 10, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Reach for Saffold
More their style. Polian doesn’t mind reaching ever, especially at the end of the round. Saffold went 16 picks later in this draft. If this were the scenario come draft day, and I hope it isn’t, I’d like to see them try to trade down ten or so picks and still get him. He’s literally the only guy in the second tier of left tackles (except for maybe Fox if he’s healthy…and there’s no way to tell if he will be, thus his stock drop). Given the second-round grade, I’d be even more comfortable with Saffold than many of the first round guys from a potential bust perspective. We’re starting to see more and more mockers, pros and amateurs, sticking him in the mid second, so he may not be around for our second round pick.
In the second I’d take either Veldheer or Calloway, even with Saffold in the first. In this situation both are available but I feel Calloway is safer. Two new tackles, problem solved. It could be a rough first year, but with Manning’s ability to stay out of trouble, I wouldn’t be too concerned.
In the third I’d take Arenas, George Selvie, John Jerry or Ed Dickson in that order. I’m actually shocked that you had Graham over Dickson. To me they’re like the same guy but Dickson simply owned the combine. He smells a little like Roy Hall, which is off-putting, but if he’s healthier he could be a special teams beast. We need more athletes there. Selvie isn’t too small to line up as a pass rusher in our 4-3. Arenas is the favorite of a lot of Colts fans and fits multiple needs. Jerry doesn’t fit in, but boy’s huge, and with the shift to bigger guys seemingly imminent, I’d draft a third o-lineman in a row if that third one was him.
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by LukeNukem on Mar 10, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My concern with Saffold
is that I hear he’d be a RT, not a LT, and you guys need a LT more, right? And thanks for the 3rd round suggestions, I’ll keep those in mind when I redo this mock.
ok sounds like everthing I was going to kill you on (mention) has been said in this colts portion.
basically id take Devin McCorty over Houston. Veldheer I like but think he is a 3rd rounder and is to much of a reach at 2nd however if he is the best OT available at that point and we didn’t take one in the 1st i could be ok with it.
My one other none colts related one id like adressed is how or why you see Clausen falling to the 2nd round?? Cause personally I think it is highly unlikely and as you know I think he is a top 10 pick but would be interested in your thoughts.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 10, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
On Clausen
I think the Redskins and Bills will take a tackle (the Bills may take a DT), the Seahawks have bigger needs at T and either and offensive or defensive playmaker like Spiller or JPP, the 49ers are happy enough with Alex Smith, the Cardinals give Leinart a shot, the Vikings probably like Tavaris more than Clausen…I think he could go 7 to Cleveland or 10 to Jacksonville, but I just don’t think they will…I don’t think he’s a top 10 caliber QB. On that, we agree to disagree on his talent level/amount of potential I guess.
Where are you hearing that?
He was a four-year starter at LT for the Hoosiers. He’s big (6’4, 320ish). He’s got great technique (allowed very few sacks during his college career). He’s athletic (5.22-40, 27 bench reps). He played in a legit conference (though not for a legit program, I’m sad to say…but the competition was certainly there). His arms are a little on the short side, but are longer than Bulaga’s. What tells you he’s a RT and not a LT, which is his natural position?
Also, speaking of your question of what the Colts need more, yes, we need a LT more, but they’d take a RT if it was the guy they like. Hell, they’d take another WR if it was the guy they like. The 31st pick is pretty much anybody’s guess. A lot of people had Donald Brown mocked to the Colts last year…in the second round! It’s not a huge monetary commitment or huge gamble either way at that spot, so I wouldn’t be surprised at anything they do.
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He looked like Brandon Graham’s bitch in the regular season.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 10, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Graham didn't have a sack in that game when I checked
though Graham might have given him trouble without a sack.
For what it’s worth Bulaga got smoked by Graham too. Bulaga just had an excuse and dominated Derrick Morgan a couple months later.
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by shake n bake on Mar 10, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
What's your point?
Everyone does. He single-handedly killed a few guys’ draft stock at the senior bowl. I want Brandon Graham more than I want Rodger Saffold. Line up Graham against some of the best OTs in this class and he’d out-speed most of them, most of the time on passing downs. In this situation, and most others, he’s not available. I’d take a reach (or preferably trade down) on Saffold who in my opinion is just a notch below the top tier LT prospects.
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the secnd round is good
but in the first id rather have:
Derrick Morgan
Earl Thomas
Bryan Bulaga
Sean Weatherspoon
Joe Haden
In the third:
Pat Angerer
Jamar Chaney
Reshad Jones
Morgan Burnett
Myron Lewis
D’Anthony Smith
Geno Atkins
Chad Jones
by hotshot5568@aim.com on Mar 10, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions
how are your DTs?
Am I overestimated your need for a DT or do you just not like Price? And would you rather have Morgan or Weatherspoon and why?
the giants have alot of DTs but we still need one(not desperately) I like Price but not at 15reach) and i think the other players in the first(named) would be beter players than price
by hotshot5568@aim.com on Mar 10, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
if we got bryan bulaga
or joe haden, I would cry tears of joy. Take arthur jones in the 2nd if we took bulaga, but if we took haden, saffold woulda been fine. Take angerer or chaney in the 3rd looks good.
Overall though, you had a nice draft…its different
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by BigBlueIntervention on Mar 10, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yea I agree it is different, Nice Job
I like that you have Kyle Wison and Earl Tomas moving up the draft board.
I would kiss a grown man on the mouth if the Chiefs had that draft
If I could substitute Thomas the NT at 2b, I’d even use my tongue.
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by craig in calgary on Mar 10, 2010 4:46 PM EST reply actions
For Denver, Not only is Graham a reach
But they just drafted a OLB last yr, and we still hav Doom there and Mario Haggan. 3 starters at the position is fine and to reach for such position would just be bad overall. In your situation, I would likely say Dan Williams or trade down for Iupati or Pouncey.
The USC WR in the 2nd I’m not a huge fan of, I really think we r fine wit BMarsh, Royal, Stoke and Gaffney. Now, if BMarsh is traded, I can see us going for a WR with the pick we get, and it wont be Dez (aka BMarsh JR) i assure u.
Great 3rd round pick though. I cant stress enough how great that would be
Ayers
is a 3-4 OLB? Sorry, thought he was a 3-4 DE. I’ll fix that when I redo the draft. You just signed a NT in free agency, but I guess you might go NT again because the guy you just signed is old. You guys and Cleveland are the hardest to mock for
Thats still a good pick for Denver
It doesnt have to be redone. The Broncos need a 3rd passrusher even if their fans dont think so .
HAHA wat r u talkin bout?
that would then be 4 potential starters at a pos. where there’s only 2 on the field? Yes, i see why jmztitans2 made the choice, but now he knows it would be foolish. And we dont run the same D as you, even if we both run a 3-4. We generate pressure from pretty much all positions. As I said, we hav 3 solid starting OLB’s, and adding a fourth with such a high pick and such a big reach would be a bad choice.
Plz stick to the chargers, we know wat we r talking about for the most part. Heck, most of us knew we would be competeing for the playoffs, even when John Clayton said:
I have trouble trying to find a single win for the Broncos this year.
by DBroncs1414 on Mar 11, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Im sry, after re-reading my post, I can see it could be taken as possibly offensive
I didnt mean to do that. All I meant was:
No, there is no chance for that pick, and doing so would be foolish for the Broncos. a 3rd pass rusher at the OLB spot is not as u said is a “need”, even though we alrdy hav 3 good ones. Unlike ur D, where most of the rush is generated from ur OLB’s we generate ours from most positions on the D: If you want proof watch BDawk blitz. All we need are the 3 OLB’s we hav and that is even more than enough.
by DBroncs1414 on Mar 11, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Either McClain or Dan Williams
or trade down for Iupati or Pouncey. And since there’s no trades in ur mock I guess Williams
by DBroncs1414 on Mar 11, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Yea 3-4 OLB
When he was first drafted we had no clue what he was going to do. We thought either he’d gain 15 pounds and play end or lose 5-10 to play OLB. Not sure of his official weight since the draft (he was 275) but they made clear during training camp he was gonna be a OLB and possibly a nickel package DE.
And no need to apologize lol. I wouldnt expect everyone to know that because he was never a full time starter, but I believe he soon will be. And yes, we are a hard team to mock. It really depends on if we trade BMarsh and/or Scheff. Right now, It’s most likely a front 7 pick unless we trade down and if we do that’s most likely an interior OL pick and blah blah blah……………….
So yes, very confusing. I cant even pinpoint a single player and say “that’s our guy” and I’ve been following this year’s draft class and Denver’s offseason moves since the season ended.
by DBroncs1414 on Mar 11, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
NIce mock but
I dont c how it is possible that Joe haden falls to 25. The best corner in the draft cannot fall that far and if he does he is by far the steal of the draft. Also even though im not high on Jimmy Clausen there is no way he falls to the second round. Evne if he fell the Vikings/Cardinals would definetly pick him if he fell that far. I also believe Seattle would pick him with their second first round pick. Those are my only real issues with this mock otherwise good job.
When you are 5'11'' and run a 4.6
You fall. There has never been a top 10 corner that is that slow and that short. It calls into question one’s ability to play the position. It is the one position where a 40 time can make or break you.
+1 Great job with the Lions picks
Lions get
- the best player (Ndamukong Suh)
- an offensive scoring weapon (Jahvid Best), something the staff wants, so defenses have to respect the run game and shift that stupid triple-coverage away from Calvin Johnson
- one of the top Guards at the top of the 3rd round, a huge need (but it’s “Jon” Asamoah, not “Joe”)
Great Lions draft.
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Looks okay as a Card fan
Not sure if we would use a 2nd on a CB; sure McFluffer sucked last year but we have some youth in the wings. But I wouldn’t be opposed just in case McMuffin sucks it up again this year.
Like the third round, hits two big needs.
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by Jessesb on Mar 10, 2010 5:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
After a second look
I think this would be a very good draft for us.
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I'd love to have Hardesty, but I don't see how he'll go high into the mid-2nd.
Top third round, maybe you’d have a case. Not sure about where you projected him.
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you have chad jones going twice...dallas at 59 and houston at 82
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by BigBlueIntervention on Mar 10, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions
wait a sec...
perhaps, that’s nate allen you meant?
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by BigBlueIntervention on Mar 10, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
I would take this for the Chargers draft
I doubt its probable but Id it take this for sure
Ryan Mathews
Cam Thomas
Greg Hardy
I doubt if Greg Hardy would transition to OLB well, but I dont care he would be worth the pick at the bottom of the 3rd. Even though we are looking decent at edge rusher this year.
Great job
I dont like you have Ben Tate falling out of the 2nd let alone the 3rd. I think you have Gerhart going way to high, and Ghee and McCoy falling too far.
Yea not sure he's big enough
Plus the Chargers are more than likely going to go with the scrub rotation at DE circa 2009. They have so many projects at that position its disheartening.
But like I mentioned I dont have a problem with the pick, cause its very good value.
Hardy
is around 6’4’’ 280, which is big enough for a 3-4 DE as is, but he could also add on 10 or so pounds to his frame
Thats why
I gave you guys Cam Thomas, so he can play nose now that Jamal Williams is gone. Although when I redo this mock I may have Cam Thomas going to the Chiefs, so not sure who I’d have you guys taking in the 2nd in that scenario
Go best DB available. Im convinced that Thomas wont be their for us to pick in the 2nd. Teams are reaching higher and higher every year for 34 NT prospects.
with the rate he is putting on pounds yea he could. Problem is, they aren’t good pounds.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 10, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Also I hate the Cinci pick
Many people are mocking the Bengals reaching for a TE in the late first. It doesnt seem logical to me, I know its a need; but with that board they would have to be high to pick Gresham.
Gresham
is a top 20 talent. It is not a reach in my opinion
I don't think the Seahawks take Spiller at 6
He would probably be there at 14 if they did want him. I think they will take Jimmy Clausen at 6.
If they don't take him at 6
I think he’ll be gone to San Fran at 13. The 49ers need a KR and they need a 2nd RB (that’s better than Coffee) to pair with the oft-injured Gore. That’s the reasoning behind them taking Spiller at 6. Again, I have an honest disagreement with some people about Clausen’s value, and whether teams will overreach for a QB and take him or not.
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by BearNecessities on Mar 11, 2010 4:45 AM EST reply actions
So, what do you think about McClain?
He said that he had Crohn’s disease at his pro day. A few doctors at MHR said that the Broncos shouldn’t draft him, at all, because the risk of him not playing is so great. You still have him in the top 10 though. You don’t think his stock will fall?
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Hey KB
I think McClain is a really rare/special talent for his position, and Chron’s is a fairly well documented/treated case in the US, not so much the NFL but he hasn’t missed any games in the NFL due to it(i dont think it affected McClain’s college career either)
We know all too well diabetes(a posisble on the field effecting disease) can be managed as well, so I think that while it might make a team hesitate for a moment, is probably something wouldn’t factor too large into anyone’s drafting board
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by BearNecessities on Mar 11, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
David Garrard
Has Crohn’s disease. It’s pretty well treated and shouldn’t prevent him from playing as if he didn’t have any problems.
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really?? I never knew that but great that it is something you can deal with and play with still
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
When I say “him” I was talking of McClain. Garrard is fine with it, I’m sure he will be as well.
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Even thought we resigned Clark Safety is still a need
especially over CB Nate Allen is the pick. I like Gibbson.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
hey MJZ I was curious if you may be interested in the live mock cause im not sure if the rep we got will show?
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 10:08 AM EST reply actions
This sat. 1ET. Just make a BPA also for me please. I havent heard from the other guy so im assuming he is a no go right now
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 11, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
First 2 rounds are good for Dallas, but 3rd is off.
Lee is not a SILB in a 3-4. John Jerry is a much better value and fit. Either him or Jerome Murphy.
I would have given you a G there
except I gave you one in the 1st. Keith Brooking is really old, do you guys have a good backup SILB? Any why do you think Lee isn’t a good 3-4 SILB fit?
Pats picks fairly decent
I like the Kindle pick. No question about that. I don’t know much about Carrington, but I’d much love to have Wootton in a Pats uniform. Hardesty I like, but I think he’s a reach in the second round. I’d see us grabbing him in the fourth or trading up to the third to get him. I’d go like this:
1) Sergio Kindle
2a) Mardy Gilyard
2b) Rodger Saffold
2c) Corey Wootton
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I don’t like the Anthony Davis pick by the Bills – I think he has too many question marks for new coach/front office of Bills to roll the dice on (also I think he takes a huge tumble). I see Bulaga being picked if its an OT because he is the model of consistency and if the Bills decide not to go OT then it is Dan Williams. I also see the Bills taking Trent Williams over Davis if they still want to go OT and Bulaga is off the board…
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I dont like tthe Mays pick by the Fins
we dont need a project at LB.
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Bills picks
Well, I would not mind Cody and Tebow in rounds 2 and 3, but have a real issue with taking Davis in round 1. I consider him to be a low round pick, based on his unimpressive combine and lack of “enthusiasm” for showing his quality at his pro-day. MUCH higher than Davis, in my mind, are Bulaga (who will never fall past #15) and Trent Williams.
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