Mock Draft Blues
by darwithabar on Mar 15, 2010 1:59 AM EDT
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Whats up guys, Figured I would drop you a quick mock, only 3 rounds. Ill try to consider FA and The Combine eventhough they mean nothing (lol).
Rd. 1
1. STL- Sam Bradford QB- You know Ive always said he has better upside then Clausen does. His arm isnt as strong IMO, but he is twice as accurate (and Clausen is accurate) and he has a better QB build IMO.
2. DET- Ndamukong Suh DT- Detroit fans can rejoice I didnt fill their biggest posistion of need. I would give you guys Okung, If Suh was off the board. Which I dont see happening with the addition of Robbins to STL. McCoy did not impress me at the combine but Gunther Cunningham has proven to be historically (Hali, etc) bad at drafting and developing DL (Atleast with the Chiefs) so he might take McCoy.
3. Tampa- Gerald McCoy DT- I think McCoy fits Tampa's needs and scheme. He is a pass rushing DT so he is probably a perfect fit at UT.
4. Wash- Russell Okung OT- Knowing Shanahan, He is gonna take Okung until Mallet, Chryst, or Gabbert are available. He likes those huge arm QBs for sure. Why shouldnt he, he has all of his success drafting them. He waits on a QB.
5. KC- Eric Berry FS- A few weeks ago people were calling me crazy for mocking him here. "He wont fall that far!" Now, it looks like he will. With the needs of the teams above him and the fact that McCoy and Suh take up two spots for sure, Id say there is a good enough chance. Berry over McClain because Berry is a much better player. Also, His pro day wasnt impressive at all. I never understood one thing about my fellow Chiefs fans and other team's fans. Suddenly, someone makes a post about a guy and they absolutely fall in love with him. Tell that to McClain's Chrons Diesease!
6. Sea- Jimmy Clausen QB- Clausen could be a Bronco if they decide to grab Bryant but I doubt it. Hey, do you guys remenber that Bronco fan who swore they would get a 1st and 3rd for him. Yeah buddy, Id say you were wrong.
7. Cle- Dez Bryant WR- This is a tuff pick for me. For anyon e that thinks Joe Haden should be the guy, I just dont see it happening. I know Dez hasnt even worked out and he may seem like a drama queen. Mike Holmgren has been known to fancy a player or two that was a dram queen though. I love what they have done in FA, bringing in quality vets and Wallace. Fujita was huge, I dont see them going McClain because Jackson is about 1 of 4 or 5 players on the Browns team that deserves a 4+ year contract. I really think he goes this high after his work outs. I watched this kid for several years when he was tearing up my team and if Crabtree went at 10, he should go at 1.
8. DAA RAIDUUURS!- Bruce Cambell OT- I absolutely guarentee this pick. Its the biggest need of the team and he scream Raiduuurs. Just like that kid on the shorter bus.
9. Buffalo- Anthony Davis OT- They need LTs and DLmen. Gailey is absolutely awesome though and probably one of the most underrated signings of all time. He took the least talented Chiefs offense and turned it into a respectable unit in 2008. Davis gives them a cornerstone on that line. I know he didnt help himself lately but I still see it.
10. Jax- Joe Haden CB- Jaxs had all kinds of secondary issues. However, watch for the trade up right here. This spot is arguably one of the best spots in the draft. If a team wants a quality player, the salary is cheap right here and you never know if someone will fall. As for Haden, look for him to slip, but not past 10 or 12.
11. Den- Dan Williams Nt- I think they reach for Williams. mcDaniels pretty much proves how horrible of a drafter he is and I could see him making this reach. For real, after Moreno, name me one player that he drafted last year that has alot of potential. Ayers, Quinn, Smith.....Only thing Ayers has to remenber him by is his cheap ass body slam on Jamal Charles. Hopefully McDaniels has a half way decent season so the Broncos keep him around, as a Chiefs fan, I would absolutely love that.
12. Miami- Earl Thomas FS- What can I say, so many people talked him up and honestly, it was almost as un warranted as McClains. He did not impress me at the combine. If you are going to run a 40 times as slow as his, then you should atleast be a good tackler. He is a solid pick around the middle of the 1st round, I just dont like him before this point.
13. San Fran- Brian Bulaga LT- Easy pick here and awesome value. With a couple more additions, the 49ers could be a pretty competitive team in 2011 and on.
14. Sea- Brian Price DT- Wow Denver, Horrible. Price is an awesome mid round talent. Wow...Alphonso Smith? Is that his name?
15. NY Ginats- Rolando McClain ILB- I think he slips unless he blows it away on his pro day. For example, I examined his film (not highlights) and I wrote down every missed tackle, ever missed assignment, everytime he went high, and every time he made a play. It was pretty average if you ask me and not worthy of top ten considerations. Everyone blows up his leadership which is good, but it wont get you pick in the top 10. Maybe he blows me away at his pro day but he is atleast a steal for the Ginats. Also, He has Chron's disease. While I dont think that will make him a bad player or anything, it does make him a risk. No team should take him in the top 15 but Giants are talented enough to risk it, I think?
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16. TEN- Derrick Morgan DE- Replacement
17. 49ers- CJ Spiller RB- Returner and good value
18. PITT- Kyle Wilson CB- They need secondary help, eventhough I think Wilson should go later
19. ATL- Jason Pierre-Paul DE- Athletic presence, really helps the Falcons defense.
20. TEX- Donovan Warren CB- Better Corner than Wilson IMO. If Haden doesnt slip due to his 40, I dont see how Warren does. To me he is almost as good and way better than Wilson.
21. CINCY- Damian Williams WR- Even after they added Bryant, I still think they go WR.
22. NE- Jared Odrick DT/DE- Perfect for Pats. He can play in a 3-4 or 4-3.
23. GB- Charles Brown LT- With Clifton leaving, addressing the o line is a must
24. PHI- Brandon Graham OLB- Very underrated and I doubt he slips
25. BAL- Devin McCourty CB- Underrated. The Ravens really need CB help and McCourty is fast and thletic. This is such a deep CB class they could wait.
26. AZ- Trent Williams OT- Replacment
27. DAL- Mike Iupati OG- Big inside OG that will fit perfect in their scheme.
28. SD- Ryan Matthews RB- I think they wait to take a NT. Cody has looked very impressive as of late.
29. NY- Sergio Kindle OLB- They have to do it. Gholston isnt cutting it and they would be better off trading him for a 5th rounder or something.
30. MIN- Taylor Mays FS- I would give him to the colts if I didnt think the Vikes would take him. Farve is coming back so they wont trade up until next yeaer, if they need to.
31. IND- Maurike Pouncey OG- Lilja wasnt the run blocker he was getting paid to be. He was one dimensional and Pouncy will make a great replacment
32. NO- Everson Griffen DE- NO adds some athletism to their front 4.
RD 2
1. STL- Sean Whetherspoon LB
2. DET- Roger Staffold OT
3. TAMPA- Carlos Dunlap DE
4. KC- Golden Tate WR- Weis is praying this happens, well I will join him in his prays. Alot of holes in his game including his height. We saw a similar slip with Desean Jackson.
5. WAS- JD Walton OC- Washington will address the line early and often.
6. CLE- Jerry Hughes OLB- Huges is a steal right here. I had him here before the trade and this only makes it more likely.
7. Oak- Geno Atkins DT- No I dont think he should be here
8. SEA-Javid Best RB- Best and Forsett will make a good duo.
9. Buf- Tim Tebow QB- He will get taken this high. Nobody is gonna let him fall to far. Think about it. Look at all he did at UF.
10. TAM- Arellious Benn WR
11. MIA- Terrence Cody NT- Told you he would be down to 245, He weighed in at 248 at his pro day and could go even higher than this.
12. NE- Jermaine Gresham TE- Cant beleive he falls this far but their are a couple holes in his game.
13. DEN- Brandon Spikes ILB- I have trouble making this pick. I try to think of what McDaniels could do but unfortunatly, he is ONLY a little better then me at evaluating talent, when im drunk.
14. Giants- Morgan Burnett FS/SS- I really like this kid. I think he is under valued by most people. I have a feeling he will go in the mid 2nd or early 3rd for sure. He is a great pick for the Giants even with Rolle. Nobody knows how KP will be when he ccomes back.
15. NE- Brandon LaFell WR - NE snatchs a future starter for their aging WR core. I have a feeling Moss and Welker will be productive for 2 or 3 more years, I just dont know if it will be with the pats.
16. CAR- Marty Gilyard WR- The Panthers will probably try to give Moore some weapons.
17. 49ers- Ricky Sapp OLB- The 49ers have a good defense. Lawson is definitly upgradable.
18. KC- Brandon Ghee CB- The Chiefs have been eyeing him hard for sure. They could go Oline, but I dont see the Chiefs passing on Ghee here. they need help in their secondary. There are alot of questions about what will become of Brandon carr.
19. Texans- Jonathan Dwyer RB- Really, he is overrated. He played in a system that we all know enhances running stats. However, He will be a very solid pro.
20. PIT- Nate Allen FS- Allen is a good pick to pair with Palu. The secondary was the defending champs achilles last year. Just ask Chris Chambers!
21. NE- Vladimir Ducasse OG- Neal is getting old. Vlad will need time to back up a vet like Neal.
22. Bengals- Reshad Jones SS- Definitly need some S help. That secondary is sick though.
23. PHI- Montario Hardisty RB- Alot of people might call this a reach but I dont think so. He is a stud and I could see him sneaking into the 2nd or high 3rd.
24. GB- Jared Veldheer OT- He has LT written all over him and im been preaching him for the longest. Some fans even complained when I mocked him to them in the 3RD ROUND! Now he may sneak into the top of the 2nd.
25. Baltimore- Corey Wooton DE- Balt lost alot of quality back ups. Corey can play 3-4 DE and is a very good back up and rotation player. The addition of Boldin really filled their biggest need.
26. AZ-Jamar Chaney ILB- Ive liked Chaney for a while and he really helped himself. Surrounded by inferior players, he stood out on Miss. St. D.
27. Cowbooys- Chad Jones SS- Really good value. He is a presence on D and should start imediatly.
28. SD- Cam Thomas NT- San Diego addresses its two biggest needs with its first two picks. No if they could just get a QB that doesnt kill the Chiefs every time.
29. Jets- Kareem Jackson CB- I think the Jets addressed their biggest needs with their first two picks.
30. Vikings- Chris Cook DB- Big and very fast.
31. Colts- Ron Grownkowski TE- Colts could use a TE and this is a value pick. I saw someone mock this once and it always made sense. Watching Dwight Clark cant hurt either, plus he can run block.
32. Saints- Navarro Bowman OLB- Bowman will add some athletism to the Saints D. Alot of that with their first two picks.
RD. 3
1. STL-Tony Washington OT- Washington is sky rocketing up boards as he should. This guy was a huge recruit in 2005 and would be a 1st round pick if he didnt play for ACTX. However, alot of red flags about this kid. Based on size, athleticism, and talent, 1st round, History will hold him ut of it.
2. DET- Daryl Stuckey SS- Beleive it or not, the Lions are my sleeper team this year. I doubt they make the playoffs, but im predicted them to atleast double their wins :) j/k. I seriously think they could win 6-7 games if Stafford is healthy. And they would have to replace some of that o line.
3. TAM-Dominique Franks CB- Help for that secondary.
4. KC- Mike Johnson OG- He isnt very athletic which will hurt him.
5. Raiders-Marschall Newhouse OG- He is pretty athletic.
6. Eagles- DeMaryius Thomas WR- They could go WR just because of value. They also lack a possesion WR like Thomas. I like this pick.
7. CLE- Patrick Robinson CB- Good draft so far for the Browns.
8. Buf- Torrel Troup NT- The switch to the 3-4 might actually go smooth for the Bills. Maybin should be a good Predator, Im just wondering where Schobel is in all this.
9. Miami- Carlton Mitchell WR- Seriously, He could be the Raiders first round pick. He is 6'4 215 lbs and runs a 4.4 40.
10. Jacksonville-Amari Spievey CB- Jax had a really bad pass defense last year.
11. CHI- Jon Asamoah OG- The Bears need OL help or all those signings or for not. They could pull a fast one and take Juice Williams because he is from ILL. :)
12. NY- Mitch Petrus OG- Mitch adds a nasty mean streak that will fit in perfect for the Ginats.
13. TEN- Akwasi Owusu-Ansah CB- Ten really hurt on defense believe it or not.
14. CAR- Lamar Houston DT- I cant believe they release Kemo. I hope his injury heals pretty fast.
15. 49ers- Tyson Alualu DE- Just a depth pick here. He would help an already good rotation.
16. Den- Jevan Snead QB- Snead was the most impressive QB at the combine and could go higher. Everyone looks at the picks and thinks this kid cant play and I think he really proved that wrong. Put him on ND or UF and were talking about Bradford and Snead.
17. Texans- John Jerry OG- This could be different if Pitts resigns.
18. PIT- Sergio Render OG- Depth.
19. FAL- Aaron Hernandez TE- After TG there is nothing.
20. CIN--Daryl Washington LB- Seriously, This guy has some potential.
21. OAK- AJ Jefferrson CB- 4.43
22. GB- Alex Carrington DE- Depth Pick.
23. PHI- AJ Edds OLB- They might have a need at Lb with the loss of Weatherspoon.
24. AZ- Andre Roberts WR- They lost two WRs this off season. They may try to add some depth. They might even loss Breston next year if they havent resigned him.
25. AZ- Dexter McCluster RB/WR- He has alot of potential IMO.
26. CB- Jordan shipley WR- I know he had a medicore combine but he is a home town boy.
27. SD-Sean Lee ILB- Just a depth pick here but maybe he competes for a spot.
28. CLE- John Skelton QB- This guy is a perfect pick for the Browns with Quinn leaving.
29. MIN- L'Anthony Smith DT- This is just for depth but maybe he is a starter in the future.
30. IND- Mike Neal DT- The Colts need onlinemen badly
31. Saints- Larry Asante SS- He could just be a product of the NEB defense.
Thats it guys. Of Coarse it could change but as of now, thats how I see it.
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Colts
1st, good with Pouncey in that spot. I hope there’s someone I like better there in the real draft, but Pouncey is fine.
2nd, *Rob *Dallas I think Daryl Washington is great value there. Gronk would have more impact right away as the in-line TE, but I think Washington would develop into a stud WILL and/or the Colts successor to Brackett in the middle.
3rd explanation doesn’t fit, but Neal’s fine. There are a lot of big 3-techs in this draft. I wouldn’t be surprised to see one taken by them even with Fili Moala already on the roster in that mold. I’d prefer Javier Arenas as a nickel/dime CB and returner. The Colts return game is terrible and they only have 3 CBs with any experience on the roster.
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by TheAngelsColts on Mar 15, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
just a couple things for now
in the second round explinations it is Dallas clark not.
oh and for the 3rd round you ment D lineman not “olineman”
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by shake n bake on Mar 15, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Cardinals take 2 WR in the third?
With as pourous as the defense was at times, especially the playoffs, I can’t see 3 of the 4 top picks going to the offense. The Cards have 3 good receivers now.
I was thinking that myself
Apparently you guys are the biggest BAP guys in the NFL or you plan to run 5-6 WR sets. :P
by alwaysforgiven821 on Mar 15, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions
That's an idea
We’ll just draft a WR that played QB in junior college and run those 6 WR sets all day.
McCluster really isnt a WR
I know it says WR/RB on his draft page but he is more of a Darren Sproles type. Andre Roberts is a true WR prospect. I gave you guys McCluster just off value. It really does make sense if you know the different types of players the two are. However, I knew someone would say something about it
Regardless
I would still be shocked at taking 3 offensive players in the first 4 picks. The defense needs a hell of a lot of help. They picked up a Sproles type guy last year in LaRod Stephens-Howling, returned a kick for TD against the Titans. Great on coverage teams too. Not used too much as a RB but is behind Beanie and Hightower on the depth chart.
As to WR, Breaston and Doucet look like they can step in just fine. Jerheme Urban won’t be missed. Boldin will but they’ve shown they really don’t need him to win. Maybe they take a WR, IDK. I’d be surprised at one this early.
Well maybe your right on the 3 offensive players eventhough its happened before ( I understand you saying it wont because you dont want it to)
I was only saying they are completly different types of players and they bring completly different things to a team.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Like the 1st round pick
…dunno how someone’s going to draw a conclusion from 7 minutes of tape fro THREE games on McClain, but that’s fine. McClain’s still a top 5 talent there.
I like Nate Allen over Morgan Burnett in the 2nd round (Burnett seems to be 3rd round right now) but you got the position right at least.
Mitch Petrus is strong like bull. Be interesting to see what they do with the line. If they move Diehl to RT, then a OG. If Diehl goes to LG…then I doubt they go with an OG so soon (and hopefully he moves from LT)
Master of the squeegee
Hmmm...Burnett blew up his pro day?
..Still like Nate Allen over him (I like Burnett too, if Allen and Chad Jones are off the board)
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 15, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i like Nate Allen>Burnett>Chad Jones
by hotshot5568@aim.com on Mar 15, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
3rd round isnt so soon
Also, No way Burnett goes in the third. Are you really saying he is a top 5 talent? He isnt. Athletically, He isnt even on Sean Whetherspoons level. He isnt as good as Rey Rey (Im not the only person to say that either) The only reason he isnt in the 2nd round is because people would say stuff about there team not passing on him.
Eagles
I like the Graham and Edds pick, but we are almost surely not going to pick a rb in the second after getting shady mccoy last draft. We’ll probably get one in the 4-5 and pick up a vet like Justin Fargas to back up shady (Even though I love Hardesty). Either a CB or Safety in that spot would be better at that point.
On the Eagles
Wouldn’t Graham be a DE rather than an OLB (the position indicated on this mock)?
I do think the Eagles will draft at least one CB in the first 3 rounds. Sheldon Brown and Asante Samuel are not getting any younger.
Edds seems to be a perfect fit for the Eagles.
The pick of Bay-Bay is interesting. I do not think, though, that the Eagles, with 3 young and good WR’s, are going to draft a 4th one this early, though his broken foot may cause him to drop far enough that he may be just a straight value pick.
I could easily see the Eagles taking Hardesty or another RB. McCoy, I think, is not as much a sure thing as most Philadelphia fans seem to believe.
by InsultComicDog on Mar 15, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Graham would be a DE for us.
I didn’t see the Thomas pick before. Even though he would be a steal at that point, for the first time in my years as an eagle fan I can say that we are set at wideout for years. Avant catches everything that comes his way, so saying we don’t have a possesion reciever is just wrong.
I’m not one of Shady McCoy’s biggest fans (He’s overrated and will never be as good as B-West was), but I still think that picking a RB in the 2nd two years in a row is not practical, when we have bigger needs in the secondary.
Why
It happens all the time. McCoy is solid but he is a compliement at best. Also, the Eagles wont consider the fact of them having 5 or 6 pro bowl WR if a player is higher on their board. Just because you think your team wont draft them doesnt mean they wont. Ive seen teams with 10 times better WR than the Eagles have right now draft WR higher than the 3rd round. Also, Avant is nothing like Thomas.
I did not realize that a Mid-4.4 is a slow 40 time for safety. I guess we were watching two different scouting combines, because Earl Thomas sure impressed me.
Only a couple safetys ran a faster time. No, he’s not Eric Berry (4.41), but a 4.47 (Thomas) is definitely not slow.
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by JP 23 on Mar 15, 2010 9:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
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by Patssuck456 on Mar 15, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I think your misunderstanding what I was saying
He didnt impress me at all at his combine. He is known for his pass defense and being a below average tackler. IMO, he should have some blazing speed. Not a 4.53 or 4.47 (I didnt see this but ill buy it because he probably did) Besides, I put him at 12 so I obviously dont think he sucks. He is what he is. He is above average athletically, below average tackler, and great instincts.
Change Jordan Shipely to John Jerry and it would be a very good draft.
Hometown boy means absolutely nothing. Jerry does not draft players from Texas. We have 2 players from Texas on the roster and they were both signed as FAs.
Vikings first round pick?
Although the Vikings have some money wrapped up in their safty position it is pretty widely accepted that it can be improved. Whether Taylor Mays can improve it is another question. I think his question marks (pass coverage, headiness) are enough to pass on. Especially with Weatherspoon, Griffen, and Pouncy available. I think Weatherspoon would be the BPA but Pouncy is a big need with the Vikes having lost their utility back-up O-Lineman in Hicks.
Cook is an OK 2nd round pick.
A DT in the third will probably not happen since we just resigned Kennedy to a two year deal. He will replace Pat Williams next year. Not that depth isn’t needed there but an offensive guard, OLB, RB, ILB are probably needed more right now. I wouldn’t hesitate to take a DT in the first if that person were the BPA. But when drafting the need spots I just can’t go with one in the third round.
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Wow people
Just because you have two very good DT doesnt mean you wont draft one in the 3rd ROUND!. Anyways, on to your next question. Just because you dont like Teylor mays doesnt mean the Vikes GM wont. Besides, Coaches love to pick players like Mays, They are cocky and they think they can coach them up. Also, Mays is a top 10 talent. Thats hardly anything to complain about.
The Texans
Schematically, McCourty and Hardesty fit a lot more than Warren and Dwyer. Especially since you have them both going a few slots after…Dwyer really doesn’t fit the Houston scheme.
Explain please
Because I hear that alot and it is always people saying it to strengthen their argument. I really want to know how he doesnt fit your scheme. He fits a zone blocking scheme and he fits a man blocking scheme even better. Does he not fit for a specific reason?
Everyone lumps Dwyer with the Texans because A) they assume Houston drafts a back in rounds 1 or 2 and B) they assume they need this big guy to gain the yard they needed 3 or 4 times last season.
Dwyer doesn’t run with authority. He doesn’t seem to make an instant decision and go. Probably most damaging his the lack of receiving ability. The Texans love to use the screen game and value a RB with good hands. His 4.59 at the combine just shows plodding RB.
Hardesty has experience in a zone-style system (Kiffin learned from Carroll after all). Even though people discredit his 1 year explosion with Kiffin, it actually was the best use of his talent. There’s tons and tons of tape showing off his receiving abilities, his one-cut running style, and his between the tackle running that shows he could be a change of pace from Steve Slaton.
Well, you;re wrong about his hands
Also, most of that doesnt exclude him from playing in the Texans system. He is a perfect fit. He has good hands they just dont throw it. Does Thomas not have good hands because he played for GT? He only had 30 more catches then Dwyer and he is a RB. Also, Im pretty sure the option is a zone style system. Also, Dwyer ran a way better 40 time at his pro day. My point is this, dont say he doesnt fit your scheme because you dont want him.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean
Are you complaining about the pick or not? To be honest it doesnt matter. Kiffen’s system is different then Carrolls. So far you have been nothing but wrong.
Solid picks for Baltimore
Would not mind getting Everson Griffen instead of McCourty, but still fills a need.
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Giants
I’d be happy with those picks
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Jags draft
1st pick – Good, I think Haden will be good and had a fluke 40 time.
3rd pick – I dislike. I’d rather get someone else than him. A DE, QB, OG, OC, BAP, whatever. If you draft us a CB then we could move Rashean Mathis to Safety and that allievates most of the coverage problems.
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Clausen could be a Bronco if they decide to grab Bryant but I doubt it
You mean marshall right?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 15, 2010 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
No
I mean Bryant. I made the 1st round before the trade. I was saying the Hawks could go WR and Clausen could slip to the Bronco or Bills.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Snead was the most impressive QB at the combine and could go higher
Maybe because the best QBs didnt throw
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 15, 2010 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
Still
He was the most impressive at the combine, period. By far. I didnty say he was the best Qb in the draft. He has a better performance at the combine then Clausen or Bradford, of course. They didnt throw, still that doesnt take anything away from his stock.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Still, every scout knows he can make the necessary throws. His problem is reading a defense.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You always say that
But you dont know if thats true. He had 3 new starters on his OL. He was under pressure all year. Regardless, He improved his stock at the combine and to say different is stupid. He threw better than anyone else. Even if he does have a problem reading defenses (That he just developed this year?) he still improved his stock.
great draft for the panthers
everyone on panthers blog is really high on gilyard and it will be a huge steal if lamarr houston drops to the 3rd
personally though, i like deymarius thomas more than gilyard but both would work well i guess
Cards picks are terrible
Two WR’s in the third? Do at least a little research man…
They are who we thought they were!
LOL
Do a little research your self. One is a prototypical WR, the other is an all purpose guy. Return punts, catch screens, return punts, return kickoffs. Thats so funny.
Lions
I like it. Saffold can work his way in at LG. Give us Ben Tate or a CB in the 4th and 6-7 wins is possible
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Saffold is not a LG and will probably never play Lg in his NFL career
He would start from day one at LT for the Lions. I dont know why you would want Sackus starting over him.
I said work his way in at LG. He can then take over for Backusup in a couple years. Backus has never played LG either, it would probably be easier for the rook to make the transition
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If your saying the Rook would be better at LG than I would agree
However, He would also be way better at LT. You would have a better combination if you sat or cut Backus.
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
We're gonna have to agree to disagree, dude
The Lions do need to draft a LT, be it this draft or next. Drafting a LT 2nd overall to protect Stafford is smart and in theory, I can’t argue that. But this years crop of tackles are not elite and worth reaching for at #2 overall IMO. As far as Sackus, he gave up less sacks than Albert last season. I’ve never been a fan of Backus (although I do root for fellow Jeffs), and I’m sure you’re getting tired of me saying LT isn’t the biggest hole/need for the Lions OL, but I’m just stating the truth. We’ve had over a dozen LGs the past 8 years, changed schemes at least 5 times which were also notoriously known for getting the snot kicked out of the QB and had QBs known for holding the ball way too long racking up higher sack totals. Backusup isn’t great by any means, but he isn’t the main problem.
Am I making any sense?
Life is a waste of time and time is a waste of life... so lets get wasted all the time and have the time of our lives!
*not worth reaching for
I should’ve proof read better, my bad lol
Life is a waste of time and time is a waste of life... so lets get wasted all the time and have the time of our lives!
They both gave up the same amount of sacks.
Albert didnt give up any in the last 5 games and only two the last 9. Thats one huge didfference. The other, Backus has given up 20 in the last 2 years and Albert has given up 13.5. Also, Albert is young, only in his second year. However, im not argueing that the Chiefs wont draft a Lt, Maybe they should and i wouldnt be mad if they did. I love having as many badd a$$ OL as I can. Albert would be a pro bowl caliber LG. I also dont think the Lions biggest need is Lt. However, they wont win more than 4 games if they dont address that OL and it has to start with Staffords blind side. Ive always said Stafford is a super bowl caliber Qb but not if he is hurt. I think DE, CB, and DT are probably all bigger needs.
Also, this draft is not thin at OT. It is top heavy. Saffold is a very good LT and he will fit in perfectly in the Lions system. People talk crap on Okung but last year he would have went before Jason Smith. Jason Smith only went 2nd overall because Andre Smith was out of shape. Okung is better than Monroe, Smith, and Andre Smith and thats a fact. I watched Okung for the last 4 years. I also watched Jason Smith and its no contest.
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Jason Smith I just think he needs time to develop
I watched him alot at Baylor and he definitly has the potential to be a good LT.
by darwithabar on Mar 21, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
You know what it is...
I look at the last 4 tackles we’ve taken in the 1st rd (McDougle, Gibson, Backus, Cherilous) and I just get nervous. I’ll be the first guy to say “Millens gone”, but I still get a tick because of past failures. lol
The best I can do is acceptance at this time. Suh, Berry or Okung
Life is a waste of time and time is a waste of life... so lets get wasted all the time and have the time of our lives!
I understand
However, look at your team’s history with WR. A couple busts and then bam! One of the best in the league even with bad QB play. I know what you mean. Okung is not Backus or CHerilous though, he is the real deal.
by darwithabar on Mar 22, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I love me some helping out the Rams
Im a Chiefs fan but I have a soft spot for the Rams. Alot of Chiefs fans hate the Rams but not me. I like to hook them up. I honestly think the Rams have the most talent out of this draft. You get Weatherspoon in the 2nd and then you get Tony Washington (1st round talent with Character issues) in the 3rd. Not to mention your franchise QB. Also, Smith, Brown, and Washington give you protecttion from day one. I think you guys should trade Carricker to a 3-4 team though. I dont think he fits the 4-3.
by darwithabar on Mar 21, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well now that he's completed the transformation from a 4-3 end
That would be the thing to do, but I’m thinking we’re gonna balk because of the lack of a serious bidder. At least one with an attractive offer. It would be a mulligan we could use though. The sins of the past regime are vast, and run much deeper than is seen on the surface. Carricker’s one of them, along with Tinoisamoa, Hedgecock, (One of my favorite all time names) not to mention the draft misses.
Oh yeah just so you know, I don’t hate the chiefs either. I grew up in the PNW but it’s amazing how many of my friends used to live in Missouri.
You lucky bastard
PNW!!!! Geez I love Widby Island (SP?), I wish I lived there. However, I get to enjoy the Lake of the Ozarks (Basically a poop pond).
Anyways, I know what you mean with Carricker. I think the Rams would be crazy to not accept a 4th in this draft for him, but thats JMO. What do Rams fans think they should get for him? Also, Whats the consensus on Chris Long? Is he a man without a posistion or has he just under performed badly? I would love Carricker if I was a 3-4 team, I wouldnt be mad if the Chiefs traded for him but I wouldnt even want to give a 4th for him. (No offense of course). What do you think about his value.
At this point I think
I too would struggle with giving up a 4th for him if I was anyone else. Most of us want at least a 2nd though. Bottom line is he’s another part of the F-ups of the last regime. Long has been a disappointment up to now, although lately, he’s shown some improvement, picking up a sack in each of his last 4 games or so. This outlines one reason why I want Suh. I know we have a lot of money tied up in our defensive line, but they’ve sadly underachieved. I would think a guy like Suh could take up double teams by the end of his rookie season and make some of that money look better.
After that if Long or Carricker didn’t improve, I’d let their contracts lapse and retrieve compensatory picks for them. Of course that’s easy for me to say, I’m not paying them.
A 2ND ROUND PICK!!!!
Are you serious? Do Rams fans voice that openly. Man, maybe if he had only played bad and not missed a whole year. I just dont see anyone giving up more than a 5th for him. If you guys got a 4th, you should be happy. I guess im not surprised, In your mind you think picking him with a 1st makes him entitled to atleast sort of a high pick, which is quite the oppisite. I think Derrick Johnson is worth atleast a 2nd but in all reality the Chiefs could probably only get a 3rd if they were lucky and someone really wanted him.
Yeah they do, but I'm not sure it's actually most
It’s gone the other way lately on what we should do with Carricker, or get. If he comes back and even just plays this season it would improve his stock dramatically, as well as help the team he plays for dramatically. I don’t think we’re entitled to a higher round pick. Nothing makes it easier to judge someones value than watching them play NFL level football, (or not play as in Carrickers case).
I think he gets traded
I would be happy with a 4th if I was a Rams fan, considering how deep this draft is.
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