Tip of the Mock
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 15, 2010 7:04 PM EDT
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Shorty, 1 rd.
I know..cop out. But some "new" ideas
- St. Louis (1-15)Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame- Adam Schefter lives in his mother's basement..I don't care what he says. Clausen is more pro ready then Bradford, so if they plan on starting a QB (which..they don't have anyone to start...) Clausen's less likely to go David Carr on them.
- Detroit (2-14 )Eric Berry- S Tennessee-Corey Williams does NOT make this pick not Suh. Eric Berry being a better prospect then Suh..makes this pick not Suh. Berry and Louis Delmas form the best young safety tandem, hopefully, in the NFL.
- Tampa Bay (3-13)Ndamukong Suh-DT Nebraska-Bucs fans rejoice, Big Suh is their man. Dunno what else to put here...other then the prayers of Tampa Bay that it turns out like this
- Washington (4-12) Russell Okung-OT OK State- if they had no QB at all, then Bradford may make sense. Jason Campbell deserves a shot to finally be in a good situation. Maybe Shanahan can give him that? Oh..and Russell Okung is a legit franchise OT. Tisk tisk on the top 3 for passing
- Kansas City (4-12) Brandon Graham-OLB Michigan- Chiefs STILL can't rush the passer. Graham has made life miserable for college OT's for years..yet, gets knocked cuz he's 6"2 and not 6"5. Who cares? Graham can bring back memories of Derrick Thomas (RIP) that Chiefs fans have been missing
- Seattle (5-11)Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma-similar to the other top teams that could go QB, the Hawks have a choice here. McCoy or Bradford? I say they go for the player that actually can translate to the NFL, and that's McCoy.
- Cleveland (5-11)Earl Thomas S Texas- As suggested by our own Mocking Dan..yes, Earl Thomas. Maybe early, maybe not. The Browns secondary is horrible. Joe Haden is a possibilty too if he proves that his combine 40 was a joke (it was..). However, ET may be better anyway..he's very versatile and in the AFC North..they like playmaking safeties
- Oakland (5-11) Derrick Morgan-DE Georgia Tech-Yes, Morgan didn't run a 4.1 40. But I'm not Al davis. Morgan is the best, proven (as much as a college junior can)DE remaining in this class. The Raiders could use a more stout DE to go with the newly acquired Kameron Wimbley. I think.
- Buffalo (6-10) Sam Bradford-QB Oklahoma- I think he's the next Alex Smith coming from that college offense, but just like Smith..if Buffalo stick with Chan Gailey for a few years instead of recycling coaches the way SF did, maybe it can help Bradford?
- Jacksonville (7-9)Rolando McClain-MLB Alabama- BASTARDS! McClain is still the best MLB in this draft, aside from what a youtube video of him in 3 games says. The Jags have no 2nd round pick, so they need to hit on this one. McClain is the BPA at this point
- Denver - from Chicago (7-9)Dan Williams NT Tennessee-yes, they signed Jamal. But he's a long term solution like Brett Farve is a long term solution at QB. OK, bad comparison. But Jamal is old and injury prone. Big Dan is this year's BJ Raji, so McDaniels find his NT of the future/present when Jamal Williams gets hurt/retires
- Miami (7-9)Jason Pierre Paul-USF OLB- Raw. Very Raw. But if he's allowed to just rush the passer as an OLB, he could be the next Demarcus Ware. Parcells knows something about that.
- San Francisco (8-8) Brian Bulaga-OT Iowa- The Niners need OL help, bad. Bulaga can play LT, but may be a dominant RT. That's good, cuz the Niners have Joe Staley as their LT.
- Seattle - from Denver (8-8)Anthony Davis-OT Rutgers-He's been Andre Smith"ing his way through this offseason, but like Smith, he's very talented when they actually play the games. Could start right away at RT while Walter Jones teaches him what its like to be the GOAT.
- New York Giants (8-8) CJ Spiller RB Clemson- Possibly the worst case scenario for the Gints. Could go Trent Williams, could go Sean Weatherspoon. Both don't have the impact potential that CJ does. He could breathe life into a stagnant special teams. The offense even as it has a plethora of talent at WR...could use more of a playmaker at RB.
- Tennessee (8-8) Joe Haden CB Tennessee - The Tits secondary is OK, but Haden can be elite. In a division with all those great passing O's...you need all the secondary help you can get. Haden does that.
- San Francisco - from Carolina (8-8) Everson Griffen OLB/DE USC- Griffen is athletic enough to be a pass rusher in a 3-4, which he'd be in SF. Griffen is a bit of an underachiever, but has all the potential in the world.
- Pittsburgh (9-7)Sean Weatherspoon ILB Missouri- James Farrior is ancient. Spoon would be an inside backer for the Stillers and of course keep the franchise long history of great LB's strong. Also, no safeties at this point are worthy
- Atlanta (9-7)Sergio Kindle DE/SLB-Texas- Kindle gets after the QB, which is what the Falcons don't do. Getting Dunta Robinson, the Falcons can focus on pass rusher. Kindle may be better off as a Strongside backer, but either way, he knows how to rush the passer which the........
- Houston (9-7) Dez Bryant-WR OK State- He falls no farther. Maybe similar to the Vikings a few years back...a top 5 caliber WR falls to the 20's to a team with an already great WR. With Andre Johnson and Dez Bryant...maybe the Texans can finally outgun the Colts? Could go CB, but in a deep draft, they don't have to reach for one
- Cincinnati* (10-6) Brian Price-DT UCLA- Price is too good to pass up here. The Bengals had a solid D last year, and could really use a playmaker at WR. But with Dez Bryant off the board, they can wait till round 2 to address it.
- New England* (10-6) Jared Odrick DE PSU- Belicheck likes to bolster the trenches and Odrick can help replace the void left by Richard Seymour
- Green Bay* (11-5) Charles Brown-OT USC- Imagine how good Aaron Rogers would be if he wasn't running for his life all game?
- Philadelphia* (11-5) Maurkice Pouncey-OC/OG Florida- Philly could use a pass rusher, but I don't see one who's good enough here. I dunno if Pouncey's fat enough for Andy Reid's liking, but he could hang out with Big Red a little while and eat what Andy Eats. Also, The interior of the Eagles line was in shambles last year, they could use a more talented, long term solution in there. Pouncey can play OG or OC if needed.
- Baltimore* (9-7) Brandon Spikes-ILB Florida- Ray Lewis has to hang em up sooner or later and as a relative of Takeo Spikes...Brandon's bloodlines of an insane NFL LB are there. Spikes could start or fill in at ILB here and there and then take over for Ray when the time comes
- Arizona* (10-6) Mike Iupati-OG/OT Idaho- the Cards OL isn't all that good for a solid team. They lost out on Sean Weatherspoon and Brandon Spikes, who could replace Dansby, so they go OL here.
- Dallas* (11-5) Trent Williams OT Oklahoma- Cowboys need OL help. Trent blew up the combine, but he was mediocre with they actually played the games. At #27 and considering he's still first round talent, Dallas should go with Williams here
- San Diego* (13-3) Ryan Matthews-RB Fresno State- Matthews gets to stay out west. The Chargers could stand to bolster that NT spot with no Jamal Williams, but Matthews is too good to pass up in favor of Terrence Cody
- New York Jets* (9-7) Taylor Mays-S USC - Jets could go with a 3-4 DE or a corner like Kyle Wilson, but they opt for Taylor Mays to take over for the departed Kerry Rhodes. Even if the get Darren Sharper, Mays could be an option here as he may be too much of an athlete for Rexy.
- Minnesota* (12-4)Kyle Wilson CB Boise State- could've probably used a corner even before Cedric Griffen went down, CB depth was a problem. Wilson would fit right in with Winfield in the midget corner role, tho he makes up for it like Winfield and can be a very solid player for the Vikings.
- Indianapolis* (14-2) Bruce Campbell OT Maryland- The Colts may have let up few sacks, but the running game stunk..largely cuz their OL isn't all that great of a unit Campbell is an elite physical talent that hasn't been able to pull it together for a full season. If he pans out, the Colts finally find a replacement for Tarik Glenn
- New Orleans* (13-3) Carlos Dunlap-DE Florida- Another highly talented underachiever, Dunlap goes to the Saints who in Gregg Williams scheme...could get the most out of Dunlap.
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i like this mock cause it was ballzy…especially Brandon Graham, ET, and Eric Berry @2
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Derrick Morgan's not an OLB candidate
JPP is too raw to go that high and highly boom or bust.
No Eric Berry, McCoy doesn’t fit, tired of seeing the bitching about a LT.
Who else is there? McClain..an ILB. Or Graham, a Pass rusher?
Chiefs were right behind the Jaguars for worst pass rushing team in the NFL last year.
..that leaves Brandon Graham.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont think any Chiefs fan bitches about a LT
Its just the Lt they mock to us is usaully Andre Davis ands he doesnt fit our system. I love the BG personally, but I doubt Pioli does it. He has always taken his OLB at 6’5 and up.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Chad Jones is on the table for Indy and an intriguing pick
but I like McCourty and Trent Williams better.
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ah...
new I forgot someone!
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 15, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm, I'm down on Bruce Campbell
he scares me. They really don’t need another LT bust. Got the potential to be fantastic though.
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by shake n bake on Mar 15, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He wont be there
I wouldnt be surprised if he goes in the top 5 to be honest. Maybe wash at 4 or KC at 5.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I can dig it
Right now its down to Dan Williams and McClain, so since McClains gone this makes sense. Although I dont see Graham goin that high. I now that they reached for Tyson Jackson last year, but he was a top 20 pick, while Graham is at best a late 1st rounder
I suppose so
if you have Graham as a late first rounder.
I’d have Graham going to my Giants if he was there, so he ain’t slipping that far.
It was either McClain or Graham to the Chiefs, and I chose the pass rusher over the ILB
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Giants
I like your alternatives better than your pick. I feel Spiller would be like Beckum (and every other TE they have had) – physical talent, but does not have a place in the playbook.
Nice job letting Dallas think they are going to get Iupati, then snatching him away at the last moment.
This is too good!!!
You go to everysingle mock and bash it and you come up with this? No words.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
The only reasons I'm not going to bash this mock is because:
a) The Seattle picks rock
b) Appreciate the love for Walter Jones
c) I actually also think the Rams should take Clausen
But I will say there’s more than a few highly unlikely picks.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
and..
you think I care about the “likely” picks? There is no such animal as likely picks anyway…most don’t have a relative clue until about 3-4 days before the draft (less so if the #1 doesn’t sign a dude first)
I know what 90% of the mocks are out there that throw out the same BS all the time…
I gave some different picks, and some rational for them. Like the Graham pick, the Chiefs can’t rush the passer for their life…Brandon Graham has been giving OL’s hell for about 3 years now. Derrick Morgan’s not a 3-4 OLB, Jason Pierre Paul may be a bust…so that leaves Graham.
What else? Earl THomas? The Browns could use a safety AND corner. ET can be either.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It's true none of us really have much of a clue
But still, we can make educated guesses based on needs, scouting reports, draft trends throughout history, team tendencies, etc.
And although Clausen should be the Rams pick, he’s not going to be. And safeties never go that high. And Graham simply isn’t that good and if they’re looking for a pass rusher to play the OLB in the 3-4, he isn’t even the top guy. And I know you’re a Giants fan so you know a lot more about the team/roster/needs than me, but why do they pass on Haden? Who do you guys have that’s so amazing you don’t take the best CB in the draft at 15? Corey Webster? Aaron Ross? CB is arguably your biggest need and you pass on the best one in the whole draft?
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
actually..see, that's where your not a Giants fan
Webster and Terrell Thomas are a solid corner duo, Terrell THomas in his 2nd year was very good last year..one of the defenses lone bright spots. Webster was among the team’s walking wounded, but in 2008 he was actually rated one of the better CB’s in the NFL
Aaron Ross is always hurt, but when he plays..he’s solid too.
CB is not really a need at all, maybe a middle round pick to be a DIME CB, or maybe solidify the nickel spot if Aaron Ross is kept at safety where he played last year towards the end (then got hurt again)
The Giants could stand to not draft a CB at all actually, safety is their need as they started CC Brown and Mike Johnson last year, who were atrocious.
I’ve given my rational for Spiller.
Why would I not put Clausen as the #1 if I didn’t think he’s gonna go there?
Graham isn’t that good? Graham isn’t just a senior bowl/combine workout warrior. This dude was unblockable for any of the top OT’s in this draft who he faced. He’s probably the best pass rusher in the draft.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Safety?
But you guys have Kenny Phillips and Antrel Rolle. Looking at the roster, I still think CB is, if not the biggest need, one of the top 2 or 3. Safety seems just fine.
As far as Graham goes, I like him a lot. Just don’t think he’s a top 5 talent.
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Nope.
Kenny Phillips can, and will not, be relied on. Coming off IR last year for a potentially career threatening injury…I doubt he’ll be relied on. He may start, but he ain’t gonna play a bulk of the snaps..they’d be very..very dumb to rely on him like that.
Giants have basically 1 1/2 safeties. And 3 solid corners.
Signing Rolle filled their greatest need, but probably need #2 is another safety.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
None of your CBs are even close to what Haden probably will become.
This is going to happen a lot if you pass on Haden. Screw his 40 time.
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That's a punt return
and Jackson, when we’re actually looking at offense vs. Defense…burned CC Brown, who is a safety and sucks.
Keep trying…Giants don’t need a CB. They could use one..maybe they take Haden if he’s BPA, but its not a need.
He’d be a nickel corner if Aaron Ross is a safety.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
You are so wierd dude
When I first joined this site you said KP was the best and his career wasnt over and he would be back. Now, He cant be relied upon? Also, you have been all over different players at different times. Youve mock a handful of dudes to the Ginats and then you just switch them and act like you have no options to choose from. Brian Price is on the board, why not pick him? Also, please stop saying you dont need a CB, 6 weeks ago you didnt need a LB because you had all these guys you guys drafted in the middle rounds but then you mention Sean W. I just dont know what youll say next.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
I said that a player coming back from IR is A-OK and will play 100% of the snaps like nothing ever happened?
Sure.
And I never said the Giants didn’t need a LB.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
DENIAL
As a Seahawks fan, I’ll gladly admit basically every single position is below average. And you can’t even admit that your CBs are below average? You’re either a) very biased, b) very stubborn, or b) very delusional. Which one it?
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Well e)
which is composed of c) and d)
c) this Seahawk fan doesn’t know what comes after b
and d) I actually watched the games, the corners are solid, the safeties couldn’t cover a blade of grass
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Oops, I had to b's
But yeah, you’re insane. Go ahead and pass on Hade and watch him turn into a top 5 corner. Your loss man
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
This is my 5th or 6th mock
I’d probably choose Haden if I did an “official mock”.
You aint a Gints fan..so I really have no clue what your complaining about.
I’ll make sure to give the Seahawks Spiller at #6 and Tony Davis at #14 just for you next time
They could go Haden of course, He’d be a BPA type pick. They’d struggle to find playing time for him…but you already knew that since you seem to know who’s on the Giants?
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't mind Davis at 14
But please not Spiller!
I’m not complaining. Like I said, the I love the Seattle picks in the mock. More like, arguing.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
You have no clue what you're talking about
The Giants CB’s are one of the strongest positions on the roster. Sheridan sucked as a D-Coordinator and he’s mostly to blame for all of the blown coverages last season (his schemes didn’t translate well on the field, thats why he got Fired..duh), that and C.C. Brown being a spectator rather than a safety. Webster struggled a bit but was also nagged by injuries throughout the season. Webster and Terrell Thomas (WHO?) yes Terrell Thomas are 2 pro-bowl caliber corners, and we’re fortunate enough to have Aaron Ross, a former 1st rounder as our nickel. The Giants have several positions that are below average but CB is not one of them.
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by I_Formation27 on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
You did say that.
My first mock you told me KP was awesome and that he would be back. When I mocked you spikes in the 1st round once, you swore you didnt need a LB and that the DT were the problem. Like 3 weeks later the Panthers embarrassed you guys.
You're inventing ways to alter what I said
You said KP sucked this whole year…
..I said he didn’t friggin play at all…so yea, little different there.
He’ll be back. He’s coming off IR from a degenerative arthritis issue. Microfracture surgery. Anyone would be an idiot to expect him to be 100% for 16 games and play all the snaps.
I doubt I said we don’t need a LB at all.
And yea, the DT’s were the problem…they were all hurt. Not a talent issue.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 19, 2010 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I didnt say he sucked all year
I said you needed a safety, and he did play some this year. You change your mind all the time man.
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
p.s., I like Earl Thomas on the Gints anyway, in round 2 were gonna see if they really do nee to draft a LB cuz Jon Goff is gonna play. They don’t need another linebacker this high if he plays like they think he can.
I’d rather them go with Vince Oghobasse or even Phil Taylor (Giants need to get fatter on the D line)
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Well yea
“They don’t need a LB if he plays like they think he can play”.
He uh…didn’t. He’s still an option, but he didn’t distinguish himself.
So I stand by what I said then and now…..cuz its the same.
And yea..you had no clue at all that Kenny Phillips was out all year. You said hte Giants safeties suck, including Kenny Phillips.
…why must you say that I keep changing my mind..yet, you are the one doing so?
Don’t answer that..cuz I really don’t care.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 20, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
How am I changing my mind
First off, lets not get comabtive, im sorry if I have and Ill fix that. All I said is the Giants safeties suck and no I didnt know he was out all year until after you told me. However, How can you hold it against me for saying they suck if you say they do too. I already told you I must have been wrong about KP because he didnt play.
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
nowhere near arguable. CB is NOT a need, and definitely not in round 1. Smoke much?
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by I_Formation27 on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
HAHA
A passrusher to the Chiefs would make too much sense. Here’s hoping they draft Charles Alexander at #5 overeall to complete the first all top 5 LSU bust defensive line.
lol
Really? Glenn Dorsey is a bust? Thats funny. DFind one player that matches his stats their first two years. You’ve proven you know nothing about football, schemes, and posistion responsibility.
by darwithabar on Mar 16, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
Glenn Dorsey is a total bust. I know you’re a Chiefs fan and will be very reluctant to call him a bust, but he is. Ask any non-Chiefs fan.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
He's a bad scheme fit, but he's useful and starting.
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by shake n bake on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Dorsey isn't as bust
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
If he was the 5th pick of the 2nd or 3rd round he wouldn't be
But as the 5th pick overall and coming in with all that hype, he is. Every time I have watched the Chiefs (which I admit isn’t a lot), the dude’s invisible.
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how many 3-4 DEs stand out in limited views?
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by shake n bake on Mar 17, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Type in "Glenn Dorsey" in google
and the first suggestion is “glenn dorsey bust”.
when you type in peyton manning the first suggestion isnt “peyton mannin bust”
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
if you type Lady Gaga the first suggestion is
Lady Gaga Hermaphrodite does that…… well bad example, but you get my point
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by shake n bake on Mar 17, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Last time I checked Lady Gaga didn't play football
And “[player’s name] bust” isn’t a suggestion for anyone who isn’t a bust.
Other players who have that as one of the top suggestions: Jamarcus Russell, Darren McFadden, Matt Leinart, Dewayne Robertson, Troy Williamson, Charles Rogers, etc.
And none of those guys are busts either.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
what by chance is the first suggestion for Peyton Manning?
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by shake n bake on Mar 19, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Seriously? Let me put you up on game. First off, DT historically take two or three years to develop. However, that wasnt the case with Dorsey, He developed pretty quick and was our most effective DT his rookie year. He finished the season with over 50 tackles. Only a couple other players currently playing have done that. Here are a couple that didnt do it there first year, Warren Sapp, Casey Hampton, Ryan Pickett, Fred Robbins, Pat Williams, Rocky Bernard, Sedrick Ellis, Corey Williams, Albert Haynsworth, Richard Seymour, Ty Warren, Vince Wilfork, Tony Brown, Every DT or DE on your favorite team, and so on. I could go on all day. Here are a couple players that had more tackles there rookie season Kevin Williams, Reggie White, Im sure there is more but you get my drift. No player on that list but Wilfork had as many tackles as Dorsey does in his first two seasons. Albert Haynesworth was none existence his first two years and he is one of the best DTs in the league. Glenn Dorsey is considered a bust because he plays on a bad defense and he isnt a pass rusher. This year, he had more than 50 tackles and he missed two games. BTW, those two games we were abused on the ground more than any other game. Glenn Dorsey is not a bust. McFadden, Carricker, Gholston, Greg Oden, Lawrence Jackson, Jamarcus Russel, Micheal Huff are busts. I understand you saw it on google so you think its true but if you dont even watch him or look at his stats how can you know. Some Chiefs that are busts: Ryan Simms, Sylvester Morris (Kinda), Junior Siavii, etc.
Also
You even admited you based this assumption off hype. Dont you think thats stupid and makes you look like you know crap about football?
but dude
Google suggestions says he’s a bust.
How can you combat that authority?
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by shake n bake on Mar 19, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
I dont think he is an elite 3-4 DE, however, I have to disagree when you say he is out of posistion. He was 4th in tackles among all 3-4 DEs. He isnt elite, but someone who calls him a bust is obviously media feed and gets there football knowledge from a thread or board somewhere.
well I don't think he has a better position he could be playing in a 3-4
but I think he’d be better off as a 4-3 UT playing the 3 tech.
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by shake n bake on Mar 19, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he is just a freak and could probably play CB and be the best one in the league
Kidding, na I agree. However, he is still our best player besides Jamal Charles and Brandon Flowers.
Hmm you put Dorsey above Hali? I agree he is a very good DE and he topped 50 tackles without a NT in the middle.
The first 3 picks of the draft will be defense. Pioli loves him some defense.
by ChiefsfanJon on Mar 19, 2010 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Your being a Troll dude
And im not gonna even respond to that., If you cant come up with a logical reason, your just trolling. Its exactly what you did to FB up there. You gave no reason of anything, you just showed a picture of a Kickoff return (????). Stop trolling please.
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Id say Hali is right there with him
Maybe you could put him above Dorsey but Dorsey is very important to what we do. As seen in the CLE and BUF games.
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
There is two none Chiefs fans`
Anything else troll.
by darwithabar on Mar 20, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Free
Good to see you back up your words on other mocks by posting your own.
I agree that the Lions need secondary help over DL/OL.
You could just as easily swap the Bengals and Texans picks and still fill needs for both teams.
by G Fan in England on Mar 16, 2010 6:52 AM EDT reply actions
Pouncey will be plenty fat for the Eagles
I like the pick. Not disappointed at all. He is one of 4 people I would be satisfied with in the first round.
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With Dunlap, Mays and Wilson still there, no thanks on Brandon Spikes after that combine. He will be a great 2nd round pick, but no first.
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meh...
I don’t like Spikes either, but in a 3-4 scheme with the Ravens, Spikes seems like a good fit as he might be insane enough like Bart Scott Was and Ray Lewis is.
Dunlap I don’t like for your scheme either.
And the Jets are pissing me off with their claim to Giants stadium, so I stuck them with Taylor Mays..who I think stinks.
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 16, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Jags
Jacksonville (7-9)Rolando McClain-MLB Alabama- BASTARDS! McClain is still the best MLB in this draft, aside from what a youtube video of him in 3 games says. The Jags have no 2nd round pick, so they need to hit on this one. McClain is the BPA at this point
I love the pick and the comment
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is dropping Haden an average of about 10 spots in the draft because of a bad 40 time completely insane? Before, everyone had him going 7 to the Browns. Now, some people have him going in the 20s, some in the teens, and at the highest 10 to the Jags. A bad 40 time shouldn’t erase 3 years of excellence on the football field at Florida
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
I've had Haden at #7, Haden at #5
Haden at #15 and Haden at #16 (this time).
His 40 time was irrelevant in this mock (I would’ve wrote something in there if it did)
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not calling you out
But if you were to take 100 random mocks before he ran the 40 and 100 random mocks after he ran the 40, I bet he dropped about 8-10 spots. I personally think that’s just crazy, even if the position the 40 is most important for is CB.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
maybe there's a reason I had him fall?
Think a that? No.
But here.
Cleveland, I wanted to go with Earl Thomas. A safety or corner. They need both and can pick what to do with ET.
Jacksonville either Haden, Spiller or McClain. I went with McClain, he’s BPA.
11-14 don’t really need CB’s do they? Niners could, but from what I gather that OL is worse then the secondary.
For the Giants, you obviously don’t have a clue..I do, and yes…our CB’s are fine..safeties STILL not. So I went with the player that could make the offense (and special teams) less stagnant and more dynamic.
Just cuz Todd McShay or Bucky Brooks don’t make the picks where I got em…doesn’t mean anything to me.
I put players there, and made rational for it. I think its possible. Maybe doesn’t happen…but maybe either do other mocks?
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Like I said freebradshaw
I’m not calling you out. Just saying I think people are dropping Haden too much because of the 40.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
OK.
I didn’t drop Haden cuz of that.
I’d still go with basically this same mock again even if Haden did what he did today.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd change the Cards pick at the least.
And definitely the Ravens too. They don’t need MOLASSES.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes....
he’s still running it
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A good observation
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Winner of the 2010 Chad Pennington Award
Loving the draft
Very aggressive and I like it. I’m getting tired of mocks around the internet having players falling to teams in need of that position. For example, just because brandon graham fits the patriots, doesn’t mean hell be drafted by the pats. just because the eagles need a fs, doesnt mean earl thomas will fall, etc. etc.
Boom.
I guess some don’t like (or get the point)a change here and there.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
interesting.
Any reason why?
Coulda swore the Cards OL was OK, not great at all.
I woulda went Spikes, but he’s off the board.
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He said the same thing to me. I took a look at the current depth chart…..they have tons of defensive holes.
It's just our D has some big holes
A first round T would be great, because you are right about our line. But we have an excellent line coach who has turned lemons into lemonade and TE’s who aren’t good for much but run blocking/getting in the way. Our needs in the D are just too great, need a NT, LB’s, another CB (especially because of McFadden lack luster performance and his 5 mil salary).
They are who we thought they were!
Good to know.
and I guess I’m glad I didn’t go with Spikes :) Dude is MOLASSES.
As far as NT or LB, who’d you take?
Navorro Bowman to be the WILB Dansby was? Kyle Wilson?
Maybe Terrence Cody for NT?
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 17, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Normally I am not a big fan of Trent Williams, but that is a good value at #27.
He has OG experience and will be a very good RT when Columbo is done.
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