ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd calls Brandon Marshall the best player in the NFL!

by durst on Mar 4, 2010 2:16 PM EST

Today on ESPN Radio, talking head Colin Cowherd first said Marshall was the best player in the NFL, then changed it only slightly to "most unguardable" in whats become a "passing league". He said teams would be crazy not to give up a first round pick for a proven player.

This interests me because about 3 weeks ago, I created a post on BOTH Denver's and Seattle's Sportsnation site. Asking this question:

Will offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates trade for Brandon Marshall?

by durst on Feb 19, 2010 7:12 AM PST Comment 51 comments

New Seahawks offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates has went on record with his intentions. He plans to create an offense similar to the one he learned under former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan.

Could this mean a trade for a current Bronco's WR?

Brandon Marshall comes with both talent and concerns, but with Houshmandzadeh one year older, and Nate Burleson being an UFA, perhaps Pete Carroll can be convinced to trade one of our two first round picks for the troubled but talented wideout.

Poll Do you think we should trade for Brandon Marshall? 3% yes, and I would trade our #6 pick 7 votes 43% yes, but I would only trade our #14 (formerly denvers) 96 votes 53% no, I would not trade for Brandon Marshall 120 votes

223 votes | Vote

Poll should we trade Brandon Marshall to Seattle? 11% yes, but only for their #6 pick 25 votes 13% yes, and give us back our #14 pick 28 votes 37% yes, but we need a first and a 3rd 81 votes 37% no, we should keep not trade Marshall 80 votes

214 votes | Vote

Poll

So now that Marshall has been given a 1st round tender, and can be had for the right offer (Denver has option of matching any offer, or receiving a first round pick as compensation) Do we think Seattle should go after Brandon Marshall?

Yes, Trade the 14th pick for Marshall

23 votes

No, he is not worth it

12 votes

35 votes | Poll has closed

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Good thing Cowherd is an idiot.

Wouldn’t wanna chalk drivel up like this to anyone who reads at above a 2nd grade level..now would we?

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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions

Colin Cowherd is an asswipe, albeit entertaining at times.

…But I don’t see why Seattle wouldn’t trade the 14th pick for Marshall, especially if they’d seriously consider Dez Bryant if he’s at that spot. His production is impossible to argue against. I mean, 100+ catches with Kyle Orton at QB?

"Trolling" is a crutch used by people who can't stand to hear a negative opinion or fact about something they like.

by Fearless Frog on Mar 4, 2010 4:47 PM EST reply actions

I bet people are going to go listen to his podcast though, so he is doing a good job.

If people are willing to play listen to the idiot, the idiot will keep getting paid to talk.

by Phantaskippy on Mar 4, 2010 5:09 PM EST reply actions

Cowherd is an idiot

This morning, a caller asked him if the Lions tampered with Stafford by negotiating a contract before the draft. He said yes. The dude has no clue.

by ninjasocks on Mar 4, 2010 5:17 PM EST reply actions

Cowherd isnt smart, but I enjoy listening to his dumb metaphors

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 4, 2010 7:36 PM EST reply actions

I agree

also, to me he seems a lot better on sportsnation than the radio…maybe its because of beadle

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by Gobroks on Mar 7, 2010 3:28 AM EST up reply actions

I'd wouldn't give up a 1st and change for Marshall

I don’t care if he is God on Earth, he and his prima dona status isn’t worth it.

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by TheTealDeal on Mar 4, 2010 8:16 PM EST reply actions

You're stranded in a lifeboat on the ocean...

Cowherd and Skip Clueless and with you. You have a gun, but it only has one bullet. What happens next?

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 4, 2010 10:22 PM EST reply actions

shoot Coward and beat Skip with the gun

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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 4, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions

I'd go this route too

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 5, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions

Shoot yourself

for getting into the situation in the first place.

by ninjasocks on Mar 4, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions

exactly one and done

by dbcouver on Mar 4, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions

hell no because they will still be alive and torture everyone

by PCISteeler on Mar 5, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions

Yeah, that is a bit selfish

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 5, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions

Line em' up

by Phantaskippy on Mar 5, 2010 2:53 AM EST up reply actions

The two fer one, well done

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 5, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions

Why isn't Brandon worth a first.

I have argued in the past that Brandon is worth a first and third. His production is unparalleled when you consider the offense and QB he is operating with. He is a proven winner on the field. Much more desirable than an untested rookie and really young. No question his production is worth a first round pick.

The problem comes off the field. If you give him the big salary will he revert back to a problem player or a satisfied player. This is the only issue. If Baltimore or Cincy or Any team in the bottom half of the draft thinks he can be a great locker room guy they should absolutely give up their 1st for a player of his age and caliber.

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by lifelongvike on Mar 5, 2010 11:01 AM EST reply actions

Brandon's claim to fame.

Marshall became the fifth player in NFL history to post three straight 100- catch seasons as he totaled 101 receptions for 1,120 yards and 10 touchdowns. Over his four seasons in the NFL, he has 327 catches for 4,019 yards and 25 TDs.

Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes

by lifelongvike on Mar 5, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions

He's got horrible intangibles

Two years ago, he punched a TV and tore up his arm. Last year, he gave the coaching staff the middle finger during training camp and gave up on the team for the last game of the year (which could have got them into the playoffs). He’s got a pretty big rap sheet and he’s had all sorts of problems with coaches and QBs. Whoever trades for him is also going to have to sign him to a giant contract. Who knows how he’ll produce once he gets paid.

There are tons of talented and young WRs (Travis Henry, Matt Jones, etc) that let off-the-field issues get in the way of their production. Marshall may not turn out like them, but his character concerns definitely prevent him from reaching his potential.

by ninjasocks on Mar 5, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions

Marshall has the talent to be metioned with the top WR's

But the off-field problems are more than enough to turn teams away. He’s going to end up getting restless and/or greedy and want more money (ala TO), or even more likely he’ll pull some stupid sh*t and get suspended and leave his team in a bind.
I cannot stand this guy because of his role as instigator in the Darrent Williams tragedy. But even without that hanging over his head, he’s a turd. (ninjasocks laid it out pretty well)

to make the jump to the next level, Odrick said today he needs to work on one area. "Just being more violent overall,'' Odrick said. "Play the game and play it right, violently.''

by APerfectStar on Mar 5, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions

Seattle has 2 firsts

They can afford to part with one of them

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 6, 2010 7:58 PM EST reply actions

I don't think they'll have to

The Broncos tendered him knowing that any team (including those with very late picks in the 1st) could sign him away with a poison pill contract, so you have to imagine that they will accept something less than that. There also don’t seem to be a lot of other teams interested.

As I see it, the price starts at a late-1st and goes down from there.

by ninjasocks on Mar 7, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions

What kind of poison pill exists in an uncapped year.

The standard poison pill was to offer an amount in the first year that would bust the trading teams cap numbers. What provision is available now?

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by lifelongvike on Mar 7, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions

The same one that was in Burleson's contract

You throw a couple of extra years on the contract and make the whole guaranteed if fulfill certain conditions. You could write a contract for a player that includes 3-4 extra years on the end with an inflated value and then include a clause that the entirety of the contract will guaranteed if the player plays 5 games in any given year in the state of Minnesota. There are no cap implications, but the injury risks alone will prevent any team from making that kind of investment in a player.

by ninjasocks on Mar 7, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions

Why would I offer anyone that deal?

Why would anyone offer Marshall a guaranteed long contract? The idea of a poison pill is not to poison the team that is offering the contract it is to make it impossible for the other team to match. A much harder thing to accomplish in a non-capped year.

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by lifelongvike on Mar 8, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

I'm not sure you understand

Here’s a link to wikipedia that explains the poison pill in Burleson’s contract:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poison_pill#Sports

In the wake of this contract offer, similar clauses have appeared in other contract offers, including a contract offered to Vikings wide receiver Nate Burleson by the Seahawks, which, with irony fully intended, was structured as a seven year, $49 million deal. The contract given to Burleson had two vengeful poison pill clauses in response to the contract offered to Hutchinson. Firstly, it stipulated that if Burleson were to play five or more games in the state of Minnesota during any single season over the life of the contract, the entire $49 million would become guaranteed

Any other team in the NFL can offer Marshall a contract for say 8 years, $100 million with only $20 million guaranteed (really just a 5 year contract with an extra 3 years that they don’t intend to pay because he’ll restructure or be cut before then). They then include a clause in the contract that states that “The entire contract shall be guaranteed if Marshall plays more than 4 games in any one year above 4000 feet elevation.” That means that, if Denver matches, they’d have to guarantee the whole contract, but that the team writing up the contract wouldn’t. Burleson’s contract was written exactly like this (a 7 year contract that was restructured to drop the last 3 years off).

by ninjasocks on Mar 8, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions