Some Duck's Mock Draft: 1.0
by Bestjagfan on Mar 7, 2010 9:37 PM EST
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PrintAfter a while without mocking, I'm back for my post-combine four rounder. Before the combine it was "average joe's," now its Some Ducks. No explanations in the post, but I'll be happy to explain my thinking in the comments below. Remember I like to change things up here and there, just keep that in mind... As usual, all questions, statements, ideas and rapings are encouraged, as it makes us all better. Without further rambling...
1. St Louis Rams: Sam Bradford, Quarterback(Personally I hate Bradford, but I just see the Rams taking him)
2. Detroit Lions: Gerald McCoy, Defensive Tackle
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Ndamukong Suh, Defensive Tackle
4. Washington Redskins: Russell Okung, Offensive Tackle
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Rolando McClain, Inside Linebacker
6. Seattle Seahawks: Jimmy Clausen, Quarterback
7. Cleveland Browns: Dez Bryant, Wide Receiver
8. Oakland Raiders: Derrick Morgan, Defensive End
9. Buffalo Bills: Anthony Davis, Offensive Tackle
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: Eric Berry, Safety (No, not a homer pick. Discuss it in the comments if you want homeys.)
11. Denver Broncos: Jared Odrick, Defensive End
12. Miami Dolphins: Dan Williams, Nose Tackle
13. San Francisco 49ers: Joe Haden, Cornerback
14. Seattle Seahawks: Bryan Bulaga, Offenisve Tackle
15. New York Giants: Earl Thomas, Safety
16. Tennessee Titans: Brandon Graham, Defensive End
17. San Francisco 49ers: C.J. Spiller, Running Back
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Mike Iupati, Guard
19. Atlanta Falcons: Jason Pierre-Paul, Defensive End
20. Houston Texans: Kyle Wilson, Cornerback
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Golden Tate, Wide Receiver
22. New England Patriots: Sergio Kindle, Linebacker
23. Green Bay Packers: Bruce Campbell, Offensive Tackle
24. Philadelphia Eagles: Perrish Cox, Cornerback
25. Baltimore Ravens: Jermaine Gresham, Tight End
26. Arizona Cardinals: Brandon Spikes, Linebacker
27. Dallas Cowboys: Trent Williams, Offensive Tackle
28. San Diego Chargers: Jonathan Dwyer, Running Back
29. New York Jets: Demaryius Thomas, Wide Receiver
30. Minnesota Vikings: Brian Price, Defensive Tackle
31. Indianapolis Colts: Charles Brown, Offensive Tackle
32. New Orleans Saints: Sean Weatherspoon, Linebacker
Round 2
1. St. Louis Rams: Donavan Warren, Cornerback
2. Detroit Lions: Mike Johnson, Guard
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Carlos Dunlap, Defensive End
4. Kansas City Chiefs: Damian Williams, Wide Receiver
5. Washington Redskins: Taylor Mays, Safety
6. Cleveland Browns: Patrick Robinson, Cornerback
7. Oakland Raiders: Dexter McCluster, Running Back/Slot Receiver
8. Seattle Seahawks: Maurkice Pouncey, Guard/Center
9. Buffalo Bills: Rob Gronkowski, Tight End
10. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mardy Gilyard, Wide Receiver
11. Miami Dolphins: Sean Lee, Linebacker
12. New England Patriots: Brandon LaFell, Wide Receiver
13. Denver Broncos: Dezmon Briscoe, Wide Receiver
14. New York Giants: Lamaar Houston, Defensive Tackle
15. Carolina Panthers: Devin McCourty, Cornerback
16. New England Patriots: Jahvid Best, Running Back
17. San Francisco 49ers: Eric Norwood, Outside Linebacker
18. Houston Texans: Ryan Matthews, Running Back
19. Kansas City Chiefs: Morgan Burnett, Safety
20. Pittsburgh Steelers: Terrance Cody, Nose Tackle
21. New England Patriots: Corey Wootton, Defensive End
22. Cincinnati Bengals: Ed Dickson, Tight End
23. Philadelphia Eagles: Ricky Sapp, Defensive End
24. Green Bay Packers: Ciron Black, Offensive Tackle, Guard
25. Baltimore Ravens: Amari Spievey, Cornerback
26. Arizona Cardinals: Nate Allen, Safety
27. Dallas Cowboys: Jon Asamoah, Guard/Center
28. San Diego Chargers: T.J. Ward, Safety
29. New York Jets: J.D. Walton, Center/Guard
30. Minnesota Vikings: Kareem Jackson, Cornerback
31. Indianapolis Colts: Daryl Washington, Outside Linebacker
32. New Orleans Saints: Chad Jones, Safety
Round 3
1. St Louis Rams: Navarro Bowman, Outside Linebacker
2. Detroit Lions: Arthur Jones, Defensive Tackle
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Larry Asante, Safety
4. Kansas City Chiefs: Jerry Hughes, Outside Linebacker
5. Oakland Raiders: Vladmir Ducasse, Offensive Tackle
6. Philadelphia Eagles: Ted Larsen, Guard/Center
7. Cleveland Browns: John Jerry, Guard
8. Buffalo Bills: Jevean Snead, Quarterback
9. Miami Dolphins: Danario Alexander, Wide Receiver
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: Eric Olsen, Center
11. Chicago Bears: Tony Washington, Offensive Tackle
12. New York Giants: Sergio Render, Guard
13. Tennessee Titans: Donald Butler, Outside Linebacker
14. Carolina Panthers: Arthur Jones, Defensive Tackle
15. San Francisco 49ers: Reshad Jones, Safety
16. Denver Broncos: Joe McKnight, Running Back
17. Houston Texans: Rodger Saffold, Guard
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: O'Brien Schofield, Outside Linebacker
19. Atlanta Falcons: Jerome Murphy, Cornerback
20. Cincinnati Bengals: Darrell Stuckey, Safety
21. Oakland Raiders: Geno Atkins, Defensive Tackle
22. Green Bay Packers: Jeremy Williams, Wide Receiver
23. Philadelphia Eagles: Mike Neal, Defensive Tackle
24. Arizona Cardinals: Dennis Pitta, Tight End
25. Arizona Cardinals: Riley Cooper, Wide Receiver
26. Dallas Cowboys: Kade Weston, Defensive End
27. San Diego Chargers: Torrell Troup, Nose Tackle
28. Cleveland Browns: Micah Johnson, Inside Linebacker
29. Minnesota Vikings: Shawn Lauvao, Guard
30. Indianapolis Colts: Myron Rolle, Safety
31. New Orleans Saints: Vince Oghobaase, Defensive Tackle
Round 4.
1. St. Louis Rams: Jon Asamoah, Guard
2. Detroit Lions: Brandon Ghee, Cornerback
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Jamar Chaney, Outside Linebacker
4. Kansas City Chiefs: Anthony McCoy, Tight End
5. Washington Redskins: Armanti Edwards, Athlete
6. Seattle Seahawks: Hall Davis, Defensive End
7. Cleveland Browns: Kam Chancellor, Safety
8. Oakland Raiders: Rennie Curran, Outside Linebacker
9. Buffalo Bills: Boo Robinson, Defensive Tackle
10. Jacksonville Jaguars: George Selvie, Defensive End
11. Chicago Bears: Syd'Quan Thompson, Cornerback
12. Miami Dolphins: Aaron Hernandez, Tight End
13. Tennessee Titans: Barry Church, Safety
14. Carolina Panthers: Jordan Shipley, Wide Receiver
15. San Francisco 49ers: Jason Fox, Offensive Tackle
16. Denver Broncos: Eric Decker, Wide Receiver
17. New York Giants: Ben Tate(Underrated running back. Whatever team takes him in the mid rounds gets a steal.)
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Kendrick Lewis, Safety
19. Atlanta Falcons: Andrew Quarless, Tight End
20. Houston Texans: Walter McFadden, Cornerback
21. New England Patriots: Kurt Coleman, Safety
22. Cincinnati Bengals: Jermaine Cunningham, Defensive End
23. Philadelphia Eagles: Andre Roberts, Wide Receiver
24. Green Bay Packers: Thaddeus Gibson, Outside Linebacker
25. New York Jets: Mike McLaughlin, Inside Linebacker
26. Arizona Cardinals: Brandon Sharpe, Outside Linebacker
27. Dallas Cowboys: Chris McGaha, Wide Receiver
28. San Diego Chargers: Anthony Dixon, Running Back
29. Philadelphia Eagles: Mitch Petrus, Guard
30. Minnesota Vikings: Tim Tebow, Quarterback
31. Indianapolis Colts: Matt Tennant, Center
32. New Orleans Saints: Brandon James, Athlete
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Like the Ben Tate and Lamarr Houston picks, especially the Houston one.
I think Earl Thomas, unless he’s really the BPA there (could be…) probably is a no go. They still probably draft a safety in the mid rounds, but I’d only think in round one if they feel ET’s gonna be a great player (which is possible)
Mike Iupati, Trent Williams…even CJ Spiller (yup!) or Sean Weatherspoon (Jon Beason?) could be possible.
Render would be fine too..especially if they’re considering making Dave Diehl the RT
Master of the squeegee
Thanks
I came really close to giving the Giants Iupati, but I personally have Thomas ranked pretty high, so I just went there. I see what your saying though about why the Giants may not pull the trigger there.
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-Akrobatik
Iupati (or Trent Williams)
probably makes more sense, cuz then taking out Render in the 3rd..Jamar Chaney would be an excellent LB pick
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 7, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
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emphasis on Trent Williams…
Master of the squeegee
by FreeBradshaw on Mar 7, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Ha
I got ya. Williams fell hard a few months ago, but now he seems to be rising up boards again. I don’t think he is top ten material, but there is no way he lasts through the first.
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really cuz he’s a RT first and foremost..and that’s what I hope the Giants go after. Will Beatty is a LT (props to the teams that passed on him in 2009..’preciate it)
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by FreeBradshaw on Mar 7, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
I remember being high on Beatty and everyone calling me crazy. Looks like he turned out alright.
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-Akrobatik
I don’t see Buffalo going TE in the second. Too many other needs
Never confuse movement with action.
~Ernest Hemingway
Which I addressed
Tight end is such an underrated position. A good one can greatly help you offense, and the Bills need some weapons. Great to hear your thoughts on the other picks.
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Completely agree, and if Cody is available for the Bills in the 2nd rd (which you show hiim being), then I think the Bills grab him quickly. He would be a perfect fit, especially with how the Bills roster is now…
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
I agree about Cody
A defense front with Cody at teh NT and Stroud at the DE will be damn hard to run on.
Bills
Run a 4-3. I doubt Stroud will be at end.
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Bills are converting to a 3-4
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Damn
I am off my game. My B bro. Goes to show how far away from league wide news I’ve been with school.
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it's good, it was an odd move since more of their personnel seems 4-3 suited than 3-4
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Its one of the fads
Personally I like a 4-3.
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How will Pos. fare in a 3-4?
He is an amzing LB, but so is Vilma and he got manhandled in a 3-4. Think Pos. will adapt?
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Pos is a great LB
I think he’ll do alright if his team gets some good lineman to take up the blockers. Speaking of Pos., I think Sean Lee is the next version of him.
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Word
Penn St. just keeps pumping out linebackers.
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Linebacker U baby
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Vilma
Is a bit smaller, LBs gotta have some beef in the 3-4, interior ones anyway. Pos. is a good weight, he’ll do fine. Though I’d like him more roaming in a 4-3.
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Vilma was still real good for the Jets
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 8, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Bills
If they go defensive line in the early rounds, they will most likely grab someone with pass rush ability, something Cody seriously lacks. Bills aren’t horrible against the run when healthy. Their pass rush is anemic however
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lions wont take mccoy if suh is their
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You mocked your ass off with this one.
I’d rather see the cardinals take Weatherspoon than spikes in the first round. Also I highly doubt they will grab a safety in the 2nd round.
Still good mock though
Thanks
How is your depth behind your recently departed safety? I was thinking some fresh talent may ease the loss of a former pro bowler.
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Cards
The Cards traded for Rhodes, so no safety in the 2nd. Their needs are OLB, ILB and CB and yet you only have them taking an ILB. A WR is not a need, at all.
They need a QB to back up Leinart.
NT and OT are needs too. Can’t see them nabbing a WR and TE in back to back picks. Can’t see WR at all actually.
Spikes is a nice pick as he’s projected to be an immediate starter. He wouldn’t be under Whisenhunt although by mid season he could work his way into that spot.
Broncos.
I’m not in love with the specific picks, but – if you can explain/correct the whole two WRs thing – I think I can see where you’re coming from.
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With Brandon Marshall
Leaving ml, I gave the Broncos some receivers, figuring McDaniels will try to find a playmaker somewhere in the draft. I didn’t realize I had given you three offensive players though, thats my bad. Who would you have in mind in that situation in the fourth?
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I liked the Browns picks until I saw that we passed on Berry. No way we do that.
I also don’t see Chancellor in the 4th. Too high because he can’t cover and we need a FS more than SS.
Micah Johnson in the 3rd would be fine but with the addition on Fujita, the Browns are very deep at ILB unless Dqwell leaves (which would give us a 2nd rounder)
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions
Ha
I’m a Bryant fan, so I see him as a top ten pick. Just my opinion, but the Browns have to find a number 1 receiver, as they don’t even have a real number 2 as of yet.
Chancellor is no doubt an in the box safety, I agree. But he is pretty good value in the fourth.
Micah Johnson is a thumper. Fujita is old, and doesn’t have too much left in him. Even if Johnson doesn’t start his first two seasons, I think in the end it could pay off. I see him being a better pro than college player.
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-Akrobatik
Like I said, I like the Bryant pick when it isn’t over Eric Berry
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
I know the Browns need receivers badly.
Browns have Elam as a box safety. We need a coverage one.
Agree on Micah being better in pros.
Fujita is barely 30. That’s getting kinda old but its not like he’s 33 or 34.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
He's 30
Which for most linebackers not named Ray Lewis is pretty old, and its not like he couldn’t use an upgrade in a few years, even next year. But yeah, he still has a few years left, and he’s not a bad player, but Johnson should compete for the job by his second season.
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Who is going to throw to him in Cleveland?
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The question right now is who is Quinn gonna throw to?
Our only Wr that’s any good is Massoquoi
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 8, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
Do Cleveland
Fans consider Robiskie a first year bust?
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plus the pick up last year
of Stuckey, who showed real promise with the Jets, but was obviously not worth as much to them as the opportunity to grab Edwards. I think the WR’s in Cleveland are young, that’s all. Give them some seasoning and a QB and they will be solid if not spectatcular. remeber, Miles Austin was a nobody before last year.
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no the QB needs receivers. Our guys aren’t getting open or making catches
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 8, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Love Brown and Washington
not a fan of Rolle that early. I don’t put much into 40s but he was WAY slower than the 3 safeties that Indy gets significant use out of in the D. Sanders and Bethea were burners at the combine and Bullitt ran well. Rolle wasn’t much faster than the ST/ emergency dimeback safety Jaime Silva. A deep half is a hell of a lot of ground to cover.
I can’t even find a scouting report on the DT you slotted Indy in the 4th and the places that at least ranked him have him barely in the top 20 DTs, so I think calling it a reach is fair.
In the 3rd I like love Matt Tennant and Jared Veldheer as Jason Worilds who I couldn’t find and who I think would be a good pick as high as 63 to be a Robert Mathis-style end. I like Asamoah, Ghee and Anthony McCoy a good amount as well.
For the 4th I’d do backflips for Worilds or Tennant, and like Moeaki.
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Noted
I came close to going offensive line again in the fourth, but thought the Colts would want to address their defensive line. I’ll adjust that.
Yeah, Mullins is a sleeper, but he shoots gaps pretty well. I admit it could be considered a reach. Imma fix that if you say the Colts would be okay going offensive line again.
I like Rolle as a player, but I see what your saying about the need for speed in a tampa 2. More for solid depth than anything though.
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on the Colts OL
I’ve did a post reviewing the Colts picks in about 15 mock drafts I pulled a while back and one I talked about had OL in each of the 1st 3 rounds. I wasn’t that hard on it. While that’s certainly excessive there are issues with every spot on the line.
LT: Charlie Johnson is a great guard, might be a good RT, but he’s barely a passable LT even with a very aware and quick releasing QB.
LG: Ryan Lilja’s has a injury history that reads like Bob Sanders’. He’s been in the league 6 years and has yet to start more than 6 games in back to back years. He started 16 last year.
C: Jeff Saturday is still the best player on the line, but you can’t expect that to hold on for a lot longer with him hitting 35 this summer.
RG: Kyle DeVan was playing in Arena League 2 last year. He was better than Mike Pollak, who he replaced, and could develop, but there’s a reason he was a total nobody until early last season.
RT: Ryan Diem I’ve been saying since 2008 (when his competition was the Hollow Shell formerly known as Marvin Harrison) that he’s the most washed up player on the roster.
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by shake n bake on Mar 7, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
point being
that OL needs to be addressed and while reaching isn’t going to happen and 2+ OL picks aren’t necessary, you can’t really go wrong with giving Indy value picks on the OL.
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by shake n bake on Mar 7, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
You can never have enough offensive lineman. I see what your saying. I fixed the fourth rounder, I was so close to going o-line again anyway. I just plugged in Tennant.
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take what I said and double it
Colts just cut Lilja.
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So the Colts need every OL position?
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
well kinda
but you could fill that need with a early pick and mid pick and a late pick.
Get a starting LT early (like Brown or Saffold) a RT who will at least push for the job in the mid rounds (like Calloway or Veldheer) and a depth interior guy late.
The LT kicks CJ or Diem to RG, massively upgrading that spot, the RT pushes or replaces Diem and the late round interior guy backs up Saturday and Lilja.
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by shake n bake on Mar 8, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
After the 1rst your Dallas mock is pretty weak.
Jon Jerry is a much better value than Asamoah. Jerry can also play RT and is a 330lb beast. Asamoah is not the road grader type of OG we use. Besides you also have him going in the 4th.
We do not need DE’s and I do not even know who Kade Westen is. What school did he go to and why would he be worth a 3rd? Myron Rolle is the pick here.
Chris Mcgaha is not a 4th round pick. Since you did not give him to anyone I will take Arrelios Benn here.
I gave
You Asamoah for depth. He is versatile and can play right tackle.
Kade Western is a sleeper 3-4 end. Last time I checked Cowboys have a need for depth at end.
Benn, even though I left him out, won’t be there in the fourth. McGaha is a chains moving possession receiver, and not a bad route runner. That kind of player always has a spot on any team of mine.
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We do not need a chain mover.
We need deep threats at WR. Any WR we draft will have to be a quality KR as well. Jerry is better than Asamoah for the Dallas system. We do not need DE’s unless someone signs one of our RFA’s. I know Benn would not be there, I was just messing with you on that one. Instead give us taylor Price WR from Ohio. He has better size and speed. He is alegit deep threat and solid KR.
I thought
I had given price out. I checked and I didn’t. Your right, Price would make sense in the fourth. My bad about leaving him out. I consider him a second day guy for a patient team with a good receivers coach.
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Lions picks
not too shabby. I don’t get why you would give Arther Jones in the 3rd after we draft McCoy in the first and just traded for Corey Williams…
Defensive Line
Is the weakest position on the Lions. I gave you two tackles there to make it the strongest on the team. Plus Jones is great value in the third, as he used to be considered a first round pick.
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There is no way this scenario happens Bjf.
Come on, the Lions will have SL Hill, C. Williams, and McCoy all at DT. The position will be a strength right there and you add Jones on top of that? That does not make sense. They would happily take John Jerry at the top of the third round, he is a much better fit for the Lions O Line.
And Johnson OG is not worth the #34 pick. The Lions would take McCourty or Best there in your draft.
Mike Johnson
Is believed by some to be the best guard in the draft. Perfect spot in the early second. And sorry, but the Lions need to protect their multimillion dollar investment with an interior lineman who can contribute right away.
Yeah, Hill and Williams aren’t anywhere near elite. Williams is a nice player, but you know what I’m saying. With a defensive tackle rotation like that, you go from having the worst front seven in the league to around middle of the pack, and top ten only looking at the defensive line. Best way to build a defense is from the line up. Lions could score points at times last year. Give Stafford protection and he could have a breakout second year with CJ and Nate Burleson. Get the defense in order, Lions could be looking at 6 or seven wins next year.
I personally like the way the Lions draft turned out.
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-Akrobatik
why does carolina take a CB with their first pick...
i like jordan shipley in the 4th, but i don’t think he’ll last that long…
Shipley might slip because of his age and injury history.
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 7, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
In the situation you have your mock playing out
we’d take probably Cody, or even Atkins, then Tebow in the third, and either Jermaine Cunningham or Demaryius Thomas in the fourth.
The early bird catches the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
Cody
On a 4-3 team?
I thought Panthers fans were behind Matt Moore.
Thomas won’t last to the fourth, in fact I think I have him going in the late first to the Jets.
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-Akrobatik
We like big guys to clog the middle
Kemo was around 350.
We are behind Moore, but we need someone behind him on the DC. ;) Besides, Tebow is too much value there.
Thomas could fall, he has questions about his speed and route running, which won’t be answered because he broke his foot and won’t work out this offseason.
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by Flowing Willow on Mar 9, 2010 6:45 AM EST up reply actions
I feel you
On the Kemo thing. I still see Cody playing nose in the 3-4 though.
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-Akrobatik
Niners.
I hate the Haden pick, overrated and not a 1st round need for CB. At this point that #13 pick could be a Tackle, Safety, or Spiller. The 2nd round pick should either be another Tackle or Safety, depending on how the 1st rounders end up.
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Are the niners
A needs based drafting team? I tried to give you value. Haden is considered by many a top ten pick, and the niners need secondary help of any kind badly.
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Not sure why the Eagles would go Corner in the first
With weatherspoon on the board and our deficiency at OLB currently, would think he would go before anybody. I seen you addressed the LB position later on so that was good. Also the O line pick is definetely a necessity, but I see there was no addressing of the Safety position, but a WR taken in the 4th? You could probably move Myron Rolle up to the spot where we take Mike Neal, since our depth at DT is solid. You could probably drop the WR and DT out completely until much later, if we decide to address them at all. The 4th round would probably be either a RB to complement McCoy or another O Line man. That’s just my thinking though.
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Thanks
For the thoughts. I used to watch the Eagles more, but this past season I fell out of touch with them. I wasn’t sure what your situation was at defensive tackle, so I addressed it sort of without thinking. I was going to give you McKnight earlier on, but I figured you’d probably want to grab a bigger back latter on to complement McCoy’s slashing running style.
Do you like Leonard Weaver playing the role he does? A jack of all trades really.
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-Akrobatik
Weaver is a beast
So glad we resigned him. But he is still a FB so another RB will almost be a certain. We brought in this guy from the CFL, but probably only to see what he has got. We also have Buckley, but he is more valuable as a special teams contributor, plus he is a good third back. Big back would make sense in most peoples opinion but we also need a catcher. That’s just the way Reid’s offense works when it comes to RB. I would love Gerhart but someone like blount is not out of the realm of possiblity either. regardless, our biggest needs I think (in no particular order) are OL because of Jackson getting injured late and the Andrews’ situations. DE, because Parker is decent but a stud would really free up Cole. Safety, because we have Victor Harris/Sean Jones/and Quntin Demps which shows nothing. And of course OLB. We might be happy with fokou but a real playmaker there would be preferable. still a solid draft on your part though.
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Yeah
I see what your saying with the backs. Reid’s west coast o uses a stable of them. Need at least two if not three solid contributers.
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-Akrobatik
Montario Hardesty. Just watch
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by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 8, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
I keep hearing this name
But know nothing about him. Anywhere I can get some good info on him?
" There is no I in team." Phil Jackson to Michael Jordan
"Yes, but there is in win." Michael Jordan's response
'I have a question." Random Soldier
"Well I have an answer or a damn good lie." SFC Strader
Dan did a scouting report on him a few days ago.
Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.
by TheRealSlimShady on Mar 9, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Good job for the Vikings
I really can’t slight any of the picks. I’m not a Tebow fan but would be ecstatic to get him in the 4th. DT,CB, and G in the first three selections takes care of needs very well. The Vikings always go BPA but I’m not so sure Price isn’t the BPA of the first round.
Winning is not everything but it sure feels like it sometimes
Thanks man
Price could end up being a steal in the late first. I like him as a player.
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-Akrobatik
No complaints here
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It'd be nice
If we could get Selvie in the fourth. He used to be considered a first rounder, but fell as of late. Never know if he could break out in the pros. So many of the top defensive ends were drafted in the fourth or later.
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-Akrobatik
Yeah, I agree
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
Driver of the "Cut Reggie Nelson" Bandwagon.
Winner of the 2010 Chad Pennington Award
I wouldn't really be happy with a draft like this
I like Iupati from what’s left but from there I’m not pleased. FS is a bigger need than NT and I like Allen better than both Cody and Kendrick Lewis. I don’t think O’Brien Schofield is a 3rd rounder after he blew his knee out. I’d take Troup in the 3rd and and Gibbson in the 4rth instead
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Hampton
Is old man. Safety can be covered up with a good scheme, nose tackle, however, in the 3-4 can’t. Just my opinion, but I think a nose tackle is the pick to go with there.
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-Akrobatik
With the Ravens getting Boldin
Safety is a bigger need than NT especcially with Troy’s playing style
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
Yeah
But the Ravens and Bengals both run the ball better than passing it, meaning I’d rather have a strong and young front seven, especially the front three that are essential to the 3-4. You could make an argument either way, so I see your point.
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-Akrobatik
Our front seven is pretty strong
we had gone 33 games without a 100 yard rusher until Ray Rice the 2nd time around. but it still wasn’t strong enough to win the game. I’d much rather make them have to run on us than be able to throw
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
by Steel in FL on Mar 10, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you
Our viewpoints just differ. I’d rather stop the run and make a team beat me by passing the ball.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
My point is we already can stop the run
It’s in the passing game that we struggled.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
My point is
You won’t be able to stop the run without Hampton.
If hip hop is dead, then it happened the day that Dilla died.
-Akrobatik
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