Final 2010 NFL mock draft
by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:45 AM EDT
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PrintThe 2010 NFL Draft is set to begin Thursday night at 7:30 PM ET. You've read and digested enough mock drafts over the past several months that you've probably reached a point where you've got mock draft indigestion, which is why we're going to get right to the point with this.
I did not project any trades, because attempting to project a trade is like attempting to project the next time you get a cold. I'm just as happy the mocking is over as you are, folks. Let's have one last mock debate, get through this as a community, and then wait with bated breath for Thursday night to arrive.
| RD | NO | TEAM | PLAYER | POS | COLL |
| 1 | 1 |  |
Sam Bradford | QB | Oklahoma |
| The Rams need a franchise signal-caller. Bradford has the highest upside of any QB available this year, and he's healthy to boot. He's a great fit in St. Louis, where the comfort of a dome will accentuate his best trait - accuracy. Keep him healthy, and Bradford will return that franchise to prominence. | |||||
| 1 | 2 |  |
Ndamukong Suh | DT | Nebraska |
| You'll hear whispers that the Lions are considering taking Russell Okung; don't buy it. Jim Schwartz and Martin Mayhew are experienced personnel men that consider player value before positional value. This pick is going to be a defensive tackle; the only question is which one the Lions go with. Gerald McCoy might be a better fit, but it's Suh that profiles as the more dominant player in late-season trips to Lambeau Field and Soldier Field. | |||||
| 1 | 3 |  |
Gerald McCoy | DT | Oklahoma |
| They'll take whichever defensive tackle the Lions don't, and be thrilled to do so. The Bucs moved back to the traditional one-gap Tampa 2 scheme under head coach Raheem Morris, and McCoy has the penetration and athletic skills to be a dominant force in the mold of Warren Sapp. | |||||
| 1 | 4 |  |
Russell Okung | OT | Oklahoma State |
| There's a chance Washington could take Jimmy Clausen here, but that seems a bit luxurious given Donovan McNabb's presence, Dan Snyder's impatience and the utter atrocity that is Washington's tackle position. Okung is a very safe investment that will excel on the left side in Mike Shanahan's zone-blocking scheme. | |||||
| 1 | 5 |  |
Bryan Bulaga | OT | Iowa |
| Scott Pioli is a curious dude. There are better players here that would give the Chiefs much better first-round impact and value, such as Eric Berry and Rolando McClain, but safeties and inside linebackers rarely go this high. Pioli will take the safe route at a value position, taking the hard-working tackle in Bulaga. | |||||
| 1 | 6 |  |
Trent Williams | OT | Oklahoma |
| The run on OTs has begun, and it is imperative that the Seahawks get a long-term blind-side protector for Matt Hasselbeck and Charlie Whitehurst. Williams has soared up draft boards thanks to Michael Oher's brilliant rookie season, and could go even higher than this. He's an excellent fit in Seattle. | |||||
| 1 | 7 |  |
Eric Berry | S | Tennessee |
| Mike Holmgren is running the show now, and while there's a good chance that the Browns could target Clausen here, I don't think that will happen if Berry is on the board. Berry's an outstanding prospect with immense talent, and he'd act as Eric Mangini's defensive quarterback for the next decade-plus. | |||||
| 1 | 8 |  |
Jason Pierre-Paul | DE | South Florida |
| Al Davis is rollin' the dice here, folks. He may be crazy, but he's not stupid, and it's far, far too early to go with Bruce Campbell. The Raiders picked up Kamerion Wimbley earlier this off-season, and JPP would team with Wimbley to give the Raiders serious speed to get after Philip Rivers. | |||||
| 1 | 9 |  |
Anthony Davis | OT | Rutgers |
| With the top three tackles off the board, this is an interesting decision. Clausen seems to be out of the equation. Dan Williams would give the team a nose tackle, but might be a reach here. Adding athleticism to the OLB group makes sense, too, but again, there just isn't value here. We haven't heard much negative coming out of OBD regarding Davis, and that may be a good thing. His attitude and maturity need work, but the Bills' need for a left tackle outweighs those considerations. This is the best value pick, as well. | |||||
| 1 | 10 |  |
Jimmy Clausen | QB | Notre Dame |
| Sometimes, the right decision is also the hard decision. The current Jaguars regime is on thin ice, and the team is frequently mentioned in possible relocation talks surrounding Los Angeles. If Jack Del Rio wants to stay Jacksonville's head coach, he needs immediate impact. Then again, David Garrard is not the future, and they have no one waiting in the wings. Clausen is the right pick for this team. | |||||
| 1 | 11 |  |
Earl Thomas | S | Texas |
| Denver's tough to get a read on, not only because Josh McDaniels makes a ton of seemingly crazy personnel decisions, but because he drafts the same way. He comes from a New England system where ball skills are valued above all else, and Denver's defense needs playmakers. Thomas is a great fit here. | |||||
| 1 | 12 |  |
Derrick Morgan | OLB | Georgia Tech |
| Miami doesn't have much in the way of needs. After adding some serious talent to the offense in the form of Brandon Marshall, the Dolphins could choose to add to its OLB position, where Joey Porter and Jason Taylor have departed. Morgan is a good fit schematically and a solid value selection. | |||||
| 1 | 13 |  |
C.J. Spiller | RB | Clemson |
| Mike Singletary needs to fortify his offensive line, particularly at the OT position, but no one's available here. Instead, he'll choose to pick a back that makes average lines look incredible in Spiller, who teams with Vernon Davis, Frank Gore and Michael Crabtree to make Alex Smith one of the richest QBs in the league. | |||||
| 1 | 14 | |
Dez Bryant | WR | Oklahoma State |
| After trying and failing to land Brandon Marshall, the Seahawks instead select the player that's been compared to Marshall in Bryant. Pete Carroll won't be concerned with his diva attitude, not only because those things don't concern him, but because they're so desperate for talent out west. Good value, good fit, huge upside. | |||||
| 1 | 15 |  |
Rolando McClain | ILB | Alabama |
| If McClain is available at No. 15 overall, this pick is a total no-brainer. The Giants have a gaping hole at middle linebacker after the departure of Antonio Pierce, and McClain is not only a great value selection, but the biggest-impact player that the Giants could possibly choose here. | |||||
| 1 | 16 |  |
Brandon Graham | DE | Michigan |
| It was bad enough with Peyton Manning in the division, but now the Titans need to contend with Matt Schaub and the high-powered Texans passing attack, as well. They'll need a pass rush to do so, and Graham is the most polished pass rusher available this year. He'd start right away for Jeff Fisher. | |||||
| 1 | 17 | |
Sergio Kindle | OLB | Texas |
| Singletary still can't get his tackle, and as he's already added a playmaker to his offense, he might as well give it a shot on the defensive side of the ball, too. San Francisco really needs to address its pass rush; Kindle is a great scheme fit, is a tremendous athlete and plays physically, all which will be endearing to Singletary. | |||||
| 1 | 18 |  |
Joe Haden | CB | Florida |
| Depending on what happens with Ben Roethlisberger, this is a Steelers team that is poised to turn it around quickly. Pittsburgh's pass defense was highly average last season, and adding Haden to the return of Troy Polamalu would make the Steelers' defense a dominant unit once more. If Big Ben sits, they'll need that defense to be dominant. | |||||
| 1 | 19 |  |
Kyle Wilson | CB | Boise State |
| The Falcons made their big free agent splash when they signed Dunta Robinson to a huge deal, but if the Falcons are going to keep up with the Saints in the NFC South, they'll need to slow down Drew Brees. Jerry Hughes makes sense, but adding a physical corner to play the slot and return punts makes a great deal of sense, too. | |||||
| 1 | 20 |  |
Maurkice Pouncey | C | Florida |
| Already boasting an elite passing offense, the Texans could stand to firm up the middle of its offensive line, as well as add talent to its defense. Pouncey is a great value pick here, fits in well with Gary Kubiak's offensive system, and can start at either guard or center as a rookie. | |||||
| 1 | 21 |  |
Jermaine Gresham | TE | Oklahoma |
| It is absolutely imperative that the Bengals add receiving talent to this team, because it is beyond ludicrous that the team can't pass the ball effectively with a solid offensive line and Carson Palmer under center. Gresham is the best receiver available here. | |||||
| 1 | 22 |  |
Jared Odrick | DE | Penn State |
| Bill Belichick spent the 2009 season toying with 4-3 looks after the trade of Richard Seymour; I sincerely doubt he wants to do that again. He needs as much 3-4 talent as he can get this year, and Odrick is a good start. He'd start alongside Vince Wilfork and Ty Warren on a once-again-solid three-man defensive line. | |||||
| 1 | 23 |  |
Jahvid Best | RB | California |
| People are projecting pass rushers and offensive tackles to Green Bay, but Ted Thompson is a man who likes to stockpile offensive skill talent - just look at his receiver position. It's about time he starts doing it at running back. Best is the absolute best player remaining on the board and gives Green Bay's lethal offense a home run threat on the ground, something it currently lacks. | |||||
| 1 | 24 |  |
Mike Iupati | OG | Idaho |
| Andy Reid typically drafts college tackles to play guard for him, but I think he'd make an exception for Iupati (who could play right tackle in a pinch). Iupati is the best all-around guard this year by a mile, and pairing him up next to Jason Peters on the left side would free up Todd Herremans to play guard or tackle on the right side. | |||||
| 1 | 25 |  |
Kareem Jackson | CB | Alabama |
| Absent a safe tight end pick here - watch out for Aaron Hernandez, by the way - look for the Ravens to address their cornerback position. Jackson is a physical player that hits big, is smooth on the field, and comes from Ozzie Newsome's Crimson Tide roots. Seems like a no-brainer to me. | |||||
| 1 | 26 |  |
Jerry Hughes | OLB | Texas Christian |
| Desperate for pass rush help, the Cardinals take a guy who happens to be one of my favorite prospects in Hughes. There's a chance Hughes is gone by this point, but the Cards need so much help at linebacker that they'd snap him up in a heartbeat were he to be available. | |||||
| 1 | 27 |  |
Charles Brown | OT | Southern Cal |
| Dallas is a tough team to get a read on. They need help at safety, but this year's crop of safeties is so deep that they should be able to find a starter there in the second or third round. Instead, they decide here to hedge their bets on new left tackle Doug Free, taking a solid citizen with solid talent in Brown. | |||||
| 1 | 28 |  |
Ryan Mathews | RB | Fresno State |
| This is another easy pick to make. If any of the draft's top three backs - Spiller, Best and Mathews - are available here, A.J. Smith is almost certain to snap him up. Mathews may be the best fit of the three, as he complements Darren Sproles very nicely. | |||||
| 1 | 29 |  |
Demaryius Thomas | WR | Georgia Tech |
| Sure, they traded for Braylon Edwards last season and Santonio Holmes last week, but neither is considered a long-term solution at the position. Thomas has big-time talent, could see the field quickly, and will be afforded time to develop a rapport with Mark Sanchez. | |||||
| 1 | 30 |  |
Dan Williams | DT | Tennessee |
| Minnesota really needs to address its porous secondary, particularly with Green Bay in the division, but Dan Williams is too much value to pass on here. Pat Williams isn't getting any younger, the team lacks depth behind third tackle Jimmy Kennedy, and this would solidify the interior of their defense for years. | |||||
| 1 | 31 |  |
Rodger Saffold | OT | Indiana |
| Charlie Johnson had a solid season at left tackle last season, but the presence of a certain Manning dude may have made him look better than he really was. Saffold is a solid pass protector with solid potential, allowing Johnson to slide to RT, or guard if they're comfortable with Adam Terry on the right side. The Colts must run the ball more effectively if they hope to win another championship with Manning. | |||||
| 1 | 32 |  |
Brian Price | DT | UCLA |
| The Saints were pretty average against the run last year, and it's pretty obvious that if there's one side of the ball they need to address, it's the defense. Price is great value here, good schematic fit, and would help the Saints defend the run better in a run-heavy division. | |||||
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No way
that Best goes before Matthews with his injury history, in my opinion.
Not saying the Best is a great or not so great RB
But I remember a RB that fell because of injury concerns, he is still pretty good. Peterson. I know I sound like a homer for saying it but just saying.
by hickenizgriz on Apr 20, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I am hearing the opposite. Take it for what it’s worth.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
same here
especially with Iupati, Hughes, and Brown still on the board
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
i think it depends on how hes used, if they draft him to get 25 touches a season were gonna be looking at another brian westbrook, draft him as a compliment back who doesnt get too many touches like Ahmad Bradshaw he wont be as bad. But that said, I dont see him as a first round player in the first place.
by gatorempire127 on Apr 20, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not a walking injury like some other guys.
He dislocated his elbow in ’08, but only missed one game.
He missed spring practice prior to the ’09 season after having surgery on that elbow, as well as on his foot.
And, of course, he had the major concussion, which he sustained about a week after the minor concussion.
Running backs get dinged. Best will be dinged. But Brian Westbrook was dinged a lot too, and in retrospect, he was worthy of a higher pick. Best is more explosive than Westbrook.
It’s not like he’d be GB’s primary runner, either – that’s why Ryan Grant is on the team. Brandon Jackson will see action, too.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
quick question
It’s not like he’d be GB’s primary runner, either – that’s why Ryan Grant is on the team. Brandon Jackson will see action, too.
If that’s the case, then why use a 1st round pick on a developmental prospect for a team in position to compete for the big time? That’s why I’m not a fan of the pick.
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
Because there’s absolutely nothing developmental about Best. He’s ready to step into an NFL offense, take 10-15 carries a game, and make a bunch of big plays for someone. That’s what Green Bay currently lacks from their running game.
You’ve got to have playmakers in this league. Thompson knows that – it’s why he’s stockpiled at WR (as well as J. Finley) for Rodgers. That’s why I think if Best is gone or they pass on him, they’ll go with Hughes to line up opposite Matthews.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
good reasoning
I can’t argue with your logic, I just think he’ll continue his need based strategy
"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."
It wouldn’t surprise me either way, really. And in this particular scenario, there’s nothing but excellent options for GB as it is.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you about Best being an excellent weapon for the Packers.
Pretty well every RB has been injured in college. Ryan Mathews has missed as many games as J. Best. Hardesty, Gerhart, and McCluster have missed more games than him.
The RB that is counted on to carry the load year in and year out does not exist anymore. The job is just too punishing. Best is a great part of a committee IMO.
Very well written responses Brian.
If the Packers don't go OLB, OT, or CB
I will be pretty mad…I think Best is a special player but just go back and watch the Steelers and Cardinals games and you can see that we have other MAJOR holes
by tmoneyttime1 on Apr 20, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
My philosophy is get your special players early, and fill your holes later.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Colts
Good selection for the Colts. If Brown goes earlier, they’ll take Saffold.
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McCourty is the other guy I'd think is likely in that spot
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by shake n bake on Apr 20, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If Pittsburgh ends up with a choice between Haden, Iupati, and Dan Williams...
it will have been a good day.
If Williams drops that far
AZ will take exactly 2.3 seconds to draft him.
They are who we thought they were!
by Jesse Reynolds on Apr 20, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
AZ was the team that I had the most difficulty with. I just think their need for a pass rusher trumps their need for a lane-clogger. They can get one of those later.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree
We generated a lot of sacks last year without good pass rushing LB’s. Our dire needs are NT and ILB. A good NT would better free up Calais Campbell and Darnell Dockett whom both had 7 sacks a piece.
Also signed Porter. And OLB can be addressed later versus an NT.
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by Jesse Reynolds on Apr 20, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Porter’s an older guy though. Still not much of a future at the position.
Plus, I think you could pick up a guy like Al Woods in the third round and he’d be just as effective for you at NT.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
True Porter is old,
but most people are forgetting that we drafted 2 OLB last year. Cody broke his wrist early in the year and our fifth round pick showed promise. They were both converting from college DE to NFL OLB. We can afford to pass in the first round on OLB, and take NT or ILB. IMO I think Williams or Witherspoon would fit BPA and need.
Weatherspoon, Williams and Cody all on the board still
I don’t think they go OLB either. Probably take Weatherspoon, but if not then a NT.
I agree to an extent – I think LB trumps NT for them, and I think this could be Wetherspoon
I was born in Buffalo, and NO, it's not a suburb of New York City
Weatherspoon would be a real solid fit inside for them.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I would be a verrry happy camper with Weatherspoon
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by Jesse Reynolds on Apr 20, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Pioli will not take Baluga.
Seriously.
It’s either Berry or trading down with someone who wants Berry.
I sure hope you are right
With the Browns sliding back towards respectability, I would love to see them not get Berry.
why? because you don’t want him too? so many chiefs fans say that he won’t take bulaga but will take a safety early. I just honestly don’t see why they are so certain. If anything, I see it likely he takes dan williams or trades down and takes williams.
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Yeah, I see that scenario as more likely than Berry, too. Pioli’s a positional value guy.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…KC fans still think that Albert will be this Elite LT…They have their Heels dug in the sand with what they want and not what will happen or should happen…at least the ones I talked to.
I like Bulaga as a prospect, but I think Okung is one of the top 5 overall players easily and maybe top 3 after Suh and Berry. However, I have encountered chiefs fans that have said they would pass on Okung to get berry. Personally, I like berry but there is a lot of risk taking a safety that high. If I was totally just building a team (like expansion) I would take Okung 1 million times out of 1 million.
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I’m fairly certain the same Chiefs fans would have taken Aaron Curry or B.J. Raji instead of Tyson Jackson, too. They’re not wrong in wishing that in either case.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Ain't no way in the world
That Ozzie Newsome would take Karrem Jackson over a Sean Wetherspoon or Mount Cody who would better BPA’s than Jackson . Perrish Cox and Patrick Robinson are also better prospects in my opinion.
I think it’s VERY arguable that Jackson is inferior to Weatherspoon and Cody in the BPA argument.
Cox would be a great fit in Baltimore as well.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you might be wrong, Ravens One. Jackson is the third best CB in the draft this year, and maybe the most physical. He is tall, long arms and can stick with the WR really well. I agree that it will be tough to pass on Weatherspoon and Cody, but Jackson could start right away man. I like the pick.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Okay
If Jackson is the 3rd best would be he be the BPA for us in your opinion?
If the draft worked out this way, I would probably see the Ravens taking Dan Williams. Alot of good things have been said around Baltimore about him, so I think he will be a top 20 player on Ozzie’s board. But they also have high regards for Jackson as well. Both would be very nice picks in the first round.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
I very nearly put Williams here, actually, given the shake-up your DL has seen this off-season. I just think Jackson is a better prospect and a better fit schematically.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No problem with it at all. We really have no idea what these teams are going to do. So anyone that sits here and goes “no way in hell we so and so passes on this guy” really doesn’t know anything. These mocks are a shot in the dark towards the later picks and most of the time, mocks are created off need when a team like Baltimore lives by BPA.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Truth be told
I be pretty happy with any of the prospects mentioned. Nice Mock Brian and rec’d.
I think he would go Jackson because of the physicality of jackson where he is much better than Robinson or Cox. Look at some of the corners he has had. Rod Woodson, Baxter, Chris McAllister, Corey Ivy. A lot of their CBs are stout and instinctive. that is a good way to describe Jackson. he is fairly big for a CB and is stout against the run.
And I think pat robinson is overrated a bit. I would not draft him in the first. elite physical skills, midround tape. He just never put it together on the field.
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Can't disagree with your analysis
Very sound.
Best to Packers. No
1. Packers wouldnt take a RB in the 1st rd when they have needs at CB, OT, OLB.
2. Best is not worth a 1st rd pick. Talent-wise he probably is, but the guy is an injury waiting to happen every time he touches the ball.
Ted Thompson just doesn’t strike me as a need-based drafter. Sorry. He did it last year, but I don’t think anyone predicted Jordy Nelson, Brian Brohm and Patrick Lee the year before.
I’ve already addressed Best’s perceived injury risks. I don’t think they’re nearly as major as they’re made out to be by the masses.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless
Of his past draft tendencies and Bests perceived injuries as a Packer fan I don’t the Packers would draft him, especially with Mathews on the board. I’d rather have a guy like McCluster in the third.
Its amazing how Rolando McClain is such a no brainer...
yet a select few have them passing on him.
Grandy's making me randy
The Giants would be foolish
to pass on McClain if he is available. In fact, I would think about trading up in front of the Broncos for him!
Bob Sanders is starting to make me rethink my SBNation ID!
by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I would...but that's not Jerry Reese's MO
he considered tradeing up for DHB (I know…) or Jeremy Maclin last year, but only cuz they had 2 extra picks. Those fell through..and they ended up with a better player anyway in Hakeem Nicks.
I don’t see them trading at all from #15.
McClain’s obviously #1. CJ Spiller, maybe not so obvious….would be #2, and then Mike Iupati is #3.
I’m re-signed to Iupati being a Giant….I gotta gut feeling the top 2 are gone.
Grandy's making me randy
by FreeBradshaw on Apr 20, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it is going to be Spiller...
I hope the Giants get McClain. But I think Denver will take him.
I don’t like the Spiller pick because it is not your biggest need, but, at the same time, it makes sense. Jacobs is HUGE and needs breaks. Spiller could be amazing up there.
No one needs McClain more than the Giants (IMO).
oh, I am a Colts fan, so I root for the Giants a lot!
Bob Sanders is starting to make me rethink my SBNation ID!
by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 20, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Love Kareem Jackson to Baltimore
This guy reminds me alot of Chris McAlister back in the day. Be amazing if Ozzie could snag Jackson and Cody in the first two rounds, that is some serious Crimson Tide.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
You're definately not afraid to go on your own...
I actually really like the Jags pick! If He is there, they should pull the trigger.
I don’t think Anthony Davis goes in the top 10.
Everything I hear and read says the Chiefs are NOT going OT at 5 – in fact their fans may revolt!
If he is available, I think the 49ers will grad Haden at 13.
I don’t see Atlanta going CB…
Why Jackson over McCourty at 25?
I just can’t fathom the Jets going WR, especially is Dan Williams is still on the board (which is highly unlikely, even though he is overrated).
And is Charles Brown is a bit small for a Dallas OT, isn’t he?
Bob Sanders is starting to make me rethink my SBNation ID!
by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions
Because he is the only REAL NT in this draft worthy of a first round pick
Because of more teams moving to the 3-4, there is a premium on the NT (just like the RE in a 4-3). The NT has to be a certain size with a certain level of strength – Dan Williams has that…
I have him going to the Dolphins at #12, but he is by no means the 12 best player in this class. Find some “boards” just after the college season ended and on many of them, Williams is a late second rounder.
Now, I don’t want to be misunderstood – Williams is worthy of a first round pick and the Browns, Bills, Broncos, Dolphins, Chargers, Ravens all need a true NT, but his position is moving him up draft boards, not his talent.
I hope that makes sense…and these are just my personal feelings. I’m no scout
Bob Sanders is starting to make me rethink my SBNation ID!
by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 20, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah!
I know how to say it…
Dan William’s position is increasing his stock, not his talent. Teams need his position, not necessarily him.
But I would not be upset if I needed a NT and my team picked him (unless we were passing up Suh, Berry, or McCoy)!
Bob Sanders is starting to make me rethink my SBNation ID!
by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 20, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said
Very valid points. The only thing I would disagree with is that because a true NT is so rare in the league, that when you find a potential one in the draft, you inflate his status much higher because of your need for him. And yes I am aware that I just completely reiterated your argument, the only difference I see is that I see it as a good thing which I am perceiving you as disagreeing.
I’d liken it to the NBA in the early 2000’s. Because there were so few true centers in the league, the value of a good one increased exponentially. However because the position is such a gamechanger compared to others, it made elevating the center’s value worthwhile.
So I would say that his talent at an elevated position is what is moving him up so many boards.
I wouldn't say it is a bad thing per se...
but you aren’t getting as much value for the money. Williams may end up getting Joe Haden type money, even though he is only as talented as Charles Brown.
It is not a real big problem, it probably isn’t fixable, but is he going to be the BPA in the first 20 picks? NO!
I like your last statement.
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by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 21, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
No way in Hell
that the Chargers let Dan Williams pass them by.
If Williams makes it down passed 26 than he will be picked by the Chargers.
Matthews is great, but NT is a bigger concern
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by princeton11loveshalos on Apr 20, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
I view them as equal concerns, and Mathews is the better prospect, at least in my eyes.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this. I also think the Chargers will look at their D-Line and this draft and realize they can get a decent back in the second round, a Dwyer (he could fall) Hardesty, or Tate. I definitely like Matthews better but they may view this as “we need a NT and there are very few in this draft”. I feel that they will try to come out with a top Flight NT in this draft, or someone who can start right away. The only guys I am sold on as immediate impact players at NT are Cody and Dan Williams, and I am not sure if they want to gamble on Cody being there when they next pick.
It is possible in the 2nd they go after a Cam Thomas or Linval Joseph, but personally I do not think these guys will be immediate impact players (just my opinion). The question remains: Is the difference between Matthews and a Hardesty (or dwyer or tate) bigger than the difference between Williams and Cam Thomas (or Joseph)?
If you view it as a significant edge as SD to Matthews/Thomas compared to Williams/Tate, I would say take Matthews. However IMO, if it is close in their minds, they should go with williams for the fact that a great NT is rare but no offense to matthews, but a Rotation RB is a dime a dozen. there are many starting RBs out there found in later rounds which usually isn’t the case with NTs anymore.
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I agree with not letting Williams pass...
I feel that Matthews is a reach at 28, but considering the NEED for Williams, he is a bit of a steal at 28. Much better than reaching for Cody at 28!
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by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 20, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t consider Mathews a need at all. He could go much higher.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Er, I’m sorry – reach*, not need.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Broncos?
Why take a safety? They signed two last offseason, and also drafted two pretty high. They also have josh barrett
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by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 20, 2010 12:58 PM EDT reply actions
Thomas can also play corner, and as mentioned, Josh McDaniels likes ball skills. That’s why they took Alphonso Smith a year ago, and I think it’ll make Thomas a very serious consideration for them.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You could be right, but
They also are very deep at CB. It just seems like they have too many holes to fill to use that high a pick on a guy who won’t play.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 20, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t disagree with that, but again, McDaniels isn’t a need-based drafter. He drafted Knowshon Moreno after signing, what 37 running backs in free agency last year? :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
We signed Buckhalter and LaMont Jordan
J.J. Arrington agreed to a deal, but was never signed b/c he failed a physical. Our RB’s before Moreno were Buck, Jordan, and Hillis. RB was a HUGE need going into last year’s draft, Knowshon just happened to also be BPA
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by Sayre Bedinger on Apr 20, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Not with Beanie Wells on the board
by The Licensed Pessimist on Apr 20, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
They signed two last offseason, and also drafted two pretty high
They signed 2 last offseason. the problem is that safeties break down fairly early and both are over 30 with dawkins being 36. I highly doubt dawkins is that good again and he has one decent year of production left AT BEST. Hill might have 2 years left but not much more than that
yes, they got a second round guy, and he showed promise but Bruton is a 4th rounder who didn’t show a lot and his ceiling to me is a solid starter at best. he would likely just end up being a very good backup in the league.
Josh barrett was a 7th rounder. I know these guys turn out sometimes to be good, but Honestly, I have not seen much out of him to think he is a guaranteed starter.
Thomas can play corner too. I know they got Alphonso smith last year but their 2 starting corners are over 30 and they have ty law playing too who is 36.
Now I am not saying this is where they SHOULD go, but I do see why they might do it.
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At the risk of sounding ungrateful good work, and thanks for having a little different mock.
IMO
As I said up top: Mathews and Williams were my considerations there. RB and NT I view as equal needs for that team, and I think Mathews is a better pro prospect than Williams is. It really could go either way in that scenario.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
my theory is if it is equal need, equal next best player (you can get), and equal talent, I go NT almost every time. it is very hard to find a guy who can play NT well and you have to grab those guys while you can.
Look at some of the best Nose tackles in the last 20 years: Ted Washington, Jamal Williams, Vince Wilfork, Sam Adams, Casey Hampton, Kris Jenkins. Most of these guys were taken High. the lowest was jenkins at 44. Jamal Williams was also taken high in the supplamental draft.
Point is, the guys that can truly dominate inside and have the body to do so are rare and rarely go low in the draft and are very successful.
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by bross09 on Apr 20, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I genuinely think Jax is gonna trade down
especially if they can do so to Philly’s spot on the board.
If Jacksonville stays put and drafts Tebow, they’ll get chided for drafting him too high (which is sad but true). If they can trade down to the Eagles spot and draft Tebow, they’ll be praised for managing a smart draft. If Jacksonville stays put and drafts someone whose name doesn’t end in Tebow, expect an announcement the following week of L.A. getting a new stadium deal done and a certain team from Florida (No, not the Bucs!) relocating there by 2012.
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I Just saw the 2nd round, and it is absolutely perfect (if, indeed, those players are available after round 1)
except for Houston!
Honestly, as a Colts fan, I hope Houston doesn’t draft a CB in the first two rounds, but if they don’t get one in the first…they will reach in the second!
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by SupermanWearsBobSander'sPJs on Apr 20, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions
Good call there. Houston's a terrible 2nd pick...
Given who went after…
Daryl Washington, Morgan Burnett, or even Amari Spievey (scheme fit) would be much better picks than Lamarr Houston.
Do like the Pouncey pick…not bashing that at all.
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I considered all three corners that went soon thereafter – Robinson, Murphy and Cook – with that pick. Just thought Houston was the better player.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do the Niners need another decent but not fantastic OLB in Kindle?
They already have Lawson, Haralson, and Brooks…
And do you really think Cox is not a reach at 49?
by Brendan Scolari on Apr 20, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
Physical corners are hot items this year. Cox isn’t a reach in the second round, and he adds return skills to the mix (though I realize that’s no longer an issue for SF).
As for Kindle, he fits the profile of a Singletary guy – good athlete, playmaker, tough. Singletary will find a way to use him. And let’s face it – Lawson and Haralson are just bodies at this point. They need more from the pass rush.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
re:
And let’s face it – Lawson and Haralson are just bodies at this point.
Why should we face it when it’s simply not true? Lawson had 7 sacks last year, 9th amongst 3-4 OLB’s, and was 8th in hits (10), and 12th in QB pressures (19). He is also above average in both pass coverage and run defense, so he’s absoutely an above average starter. If you don’t want to take my word for it look at Pro Football Focus’ player ratings, they have him above average in all three categories, and rated as the 9th best 3-4 OLB in the NFL.
Haralson is less versatile, being more of a pure pass rusher, but he had 6 sacks and 27 pressures, which was the 5th highest in the league amongst 3-4 OLB’s. Considering his 8 sacks in part of a season in 2008 as well, I think he qualifies as more than just a body.
And then of course there’s Ahmad Brooks who had 6 sacks in only 225 snaps, giving him the highest rate of sacks to snaps in the league (at least among 3-4 OLB’s).
Now are any of these guys Demarcus Ware or anything? No, but neither is Kindle. So I just don’t see the point of using a top pick to get another OLB, barring a Demarcus Ware or Julius Peppers type prospect being available, and there is no guy like that in this draft. I’m not saying it won’t happen, just that it doesn’t make much sense to me. These guys are absolutely not just “bodies”, the Niners had the 3rd highest adjusted sack rate in the NFL for crying out loud, the pass rush is excellent.
As for Cox, I just don’t see it. Draft Countdown has him rated as the 10th best corner in the draft. Maybe that’s too low, but I can’t remember seeing him ranked in the top 5 corners in many places anymore. I think he’d be available in the 3rd round at the very least, if not the 4th or 5th, so for me at least that’s a pretty big reach that I hope doesn’t happen.
by Brendan Scolari on Apr 21, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, this is completely moot now anyway now that y’all brought in Travis LaBoy. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 21, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Haha
He’s not that good though, or at least that’s my understanding. He’ll be the 4th OLB in the rotation, behind Lawson, Haralson, and Brooks.
by Brendan Scolari on Apr 21, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s OK. High-effort guy with some talent, great in a rotation.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
y is clausen out of the equation for the bills?, id much rather have him over davis
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It just looks that way. I’d be thrilled to have been caught up in an elaborate smoke screen on that one.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Estatic that Haden falls to us
and while I like Alualu I don’t think Keisel needs his replacement quite yet. He is a young 30 that is he’s only been starting for 2-3 seasons and could still be going. And we draft a DE in the 6th last and I’d like to give a chance.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?
oops forgot to say who I wanted
I thinkj we take Morgan Burnett in that case.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?
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I’m a Cowboys fan and, come on, everyone in the entire world knows that Jerry Jones doesn’t give two flips about “solid citizen”. He couldn’t care less, in fact he might view it as a sign of weakness.
The Cowboys’ actual pick in this situation would either be:
1) trade down to a high 2nd rounder
2) take McCourtney – the team strongly believes you can’t have too much depth at CB
The national media puts way too much emphasis on the “need” at tackle. The boys wouldn’t have released Flo if they weren’t confident in Free. No team replaces an LT that played a solid year unless they have confidence in the man behind him. Doesn’t mean they’re right, just means they aren’t going into this draft scrambling for a tackle. Flo didn’t retire, the Cowboys released Flo.
by Blue Eyed Devil on Apr 20, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
I’m aware of the Flozell situation. I mentioned right in the pick analysis that they didn’t take Brown to start at LT, but to hedge their bets in case they end up being horribly wrong about Doug Free. There’s nothing wrong with taking a talented young lineman. And you’re right about Jones not caring so much about character, but that wasn’t so much a part of the reasoning behind the pick as much as it was me just tossing that in there – Brown’s a good dude.
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by Brian Galliford on Apr 20, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Cardinals
You’ve got the Cardinals taking an OLB then a CB. They could certainly use both of these however, the top priorities in the draft this year are ILB and NT. You have them pass on Weatherspoon at #26. I don’t think that happens, unless they take a NT. Those are the 4 positions that need help on the defense. If they use all 4 picks in the first three rounds on them I’d walk away happy.
Only reason I had them passing on Weatherspoon for Hughes was b/c I think Hughes is a better player. Same with Dan Williams.
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