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2011 NFL Draft top 75

This is a year-round NFL Draft site. As such, now would be a good time to release our first 2011 rankings.

After the jump, you'll find our initial top 75 overall players. This list will be very fluid throughout the summer as we go back and re-watch games from last year with a specific eye on juniors and sophomores.

I encourage all of you to pick this list apart and offer your own. That's what this site is all about: informing and educating each other about the pro prospects of college football's top players. An asterisk next to a player means they are a junior.

This initial ranking does not include redshirt sophomores. That means Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck and Virginia Tech running back Ryan Williams are not included.

Small-school players like Grambling defensive end Christian Anthony weren't included. I'm not going to act like I know a ton about small-school guys, but will research them more leading up to the start of the season.

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1. A.J. Green | 6'4, 200 pounds | WR | Georgia *
2. Patrick Peterson | 6'1, 211 pounds | CB | LSU *
3. Robert Quinn | 6'5, 270 pounds | DE | North Carolina *
4. Julio Jones | 6'4, 210 pounds | WR | Alabama *
5. Jake Locker | 6'3, 226 pounds | QB | Washington
6. Travis Lewis | 6'2, 230 pounds | OLB | Oklahoma *
7. Allen Bailey | 6'4, 288 pounds | DT/DE | Miami (Fla.)
8. Ras-I Dowling | 6'2, 200 pounds | CB | Virginia
9. Adrian Clayborn | 6'3, 282 pounds | DE | Iowa
10. Prince Amukamara | 6'1, 200 pounds | CB | Nebraska
11. Bruce Carter | 6'3, 230 pounds | OLB | North Carolina
12. Jared Crick | 6'6, 285 pounds | DT | Nebraska *
13. Jonathan Baldwin | 6'5, 220 pounds | WR | Pittsburgh *
14. Marvin Austin | 6'3, 305 pounds | DT | North Carolina
15. Cameron Heyward | 6'6, 287 pounds | DE | Ohio State
16. Da'Quan Bowers | 6'4, 280 pounds | DE | Clemson *
17. Kyle Rudolph | 6'6, 265 pounds | TE | Notre Dame *
18. Greg Romeus | 6'6, 270 pounds | DE | Pittsburgh
19. Chris Galippo | 6'2, 250 pounds | MLB | Southern California *
20. Anthony Castonzo | 6'7, 295 pounds | OT | Boston College
21. DeAndre McDaniel | 6'1, 210 pounds | S | Clemson
22. Michael Floyd | 6'3, 220 pounds | WR | Notre Dame *
23. Ryan Mallett | 6'6, 238 pounds | QB | Arkansas *
24. Jeremy Beal | 6'3, 261 pounds | DE | Oklahoma
25. Mark Barron | 6'2, 215 pounds | S | Alabama *
26. Armon Binns | 6'4, 200 pounds | WR | Cincinnati
27. Will Hill | 6'1, 200 pounds | S | Florida *
28. Aaron Williams | 6'1, 190 pounds | CB | Texas *
29. Rodney Hudson | 6'2, 283 pounds | G | Florida State
30. Gabe Carimi | 6'7, 315 pounds | OT | Wisconsin
31. Deunta Williams | 6'2, 210 pounds | S | North Carolina
32. Rahim Moore | 6'1, 195 pounds | S | UCLA *
33. Marcell Dareus | 6'3, 280 pounds | DE | Alabama *
34. Jurell Casey | 6'1, 300 pounds | DT | Southern California *
35. Christian Ponder | 6'2, 219 pounds | QB | Florida State
36. Mark Ingram | 5'10, 215 pounds | RB | Alabama *
37. Quan Sturdivant | 6'2, 235 pounds | MLB | North Carolina
38. Matt Reynolds | 6'6, 329 pounds | OT | BYU *
39. Greg Jones | 6'1, 228 pounds | MLB | Michigan State
40. Weslye Saunders | 6'5, 280 pounds | TE | South Carolina
41. Terrance Toliver | 6'5, 206 pounds | WR | LSU
42. Justin Boren | 6'3, 315 pounds | G | Ohio State
43. Austin Pettis | 6'3, 201 pounds | WR | Boise State
44. Kristofer O'Dowd | 6'5, 300 pounds | C | Southern California
45. Jacquizz Rodgers | 5'7, 192 pounds | RB | Oregon State *
46. Akeem Ayers | 6'5, 250 pounds | OLB | UCLA *
47. Jarvis Jenkins | 6'4, 305 pounds | DT | Clemson
48. Clint Boling | 6'5, 297 pounds | OT | Georgia
49. Curtis Brown | 6'0, 180 pounds | CB | Texas
50. Von Miller | 6'3, 240 pounds | OLB | Texas A&M
51. Stanley Havili | 6'1, 230 pounds | FB | Southern California
52. Luke Stocker | 6'6, 240 pounds | TE | Tennessee
53. Stefen Wisniewski | 6'3, 302 pounds | C | Penn State
54. Josh Bynes | 6'2, 239 pounds | MLB | Auburn
55. Lee Ziemba | 6'8, 310 pounds | OT | Auburn
56. Daniel Thomas | 6'2, 227 pounds | RB | Kansas State
57. Leonard Hankerson | 6'3, 215 pounds | WR | Miami (Fla.)
58. Noel Devine | 5'8, 176 pounds | RB | West Virginia
59. Stephen Paea | 6'1, 285 pounds | DT | Oregon State
60. Marcus Cannon | 6'5, 350 pounds | OT | TCU
61. Mike Pouncey | 6'5, 320 pounds | G/C | Florida
62. Greg Little | 6'3, 210 pounds | WR | North Carolina
63. Kai Forbath | 6'1, 192 pounds | K | UCLA
64. DeMarco Murray | 6'1, 214 pounds | RB | Oklahoma
65. Case Keenum | 6'2, 210 pounds | QB | Houston
66. Colin McCarthy | 6'3, 242 pounds | OLB | Miami (Fla.)
67. Joseph Barksdale | 6'5, 315 pounds | OT | LSU
68. Owen Marecic | 6'1, 244 pounds | FB | Stanford
69. Ahmad Black | 5'9, 185 pounds | S | Florida
70. Roy Helu | 6'0, 215 pounds | RB | Nebraska
71. Nate Solder | 6'9, 305 pounds | OT | Colorado
72. Jerrell Powe | 6'2, 340 pounds | DT | Mississippi
73. Montel Harris | 5'10, 200 pounds | RB | Boston College *
74. Alex Wujciak | 6'3, 255 pounds | MLB | Maryland
75. Jerrod Johnson | 6'5, 243 pounds | QB | Texas A&M

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Anthony Castonzo was just nominated for the Rhodes Scholarship

So get ready for another year of discussion about this. Should be interesting to see what he does as he is far more of a NFL prospect than Myron Rolle (case in point, him being the highest ranked offensive lineman on this list)

by BigRedDog42 on Apr 26, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha, didn’t know that. Awesome.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea he's a freak

I know people in his classes and they all expect him to be a deadweight football player in group projects until he starts talking

by BigRedDog42 on Apr 26, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow, if the Colts jumped at McClendon (a non-combine invite) in the 4th for finishing undergrad+masters in 4 years while playing football

I can’t imagine how much they’ll love Castonzo.

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by shake n bake on Apr 26, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool

I was just thinking about which guys would be the top prospects in the 2011 draft.

This initial ranking does not include redshirt sophomores. That means Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck and Virginia Tech running back Ryan Williams are not included.

Howcome? It seems like they’re as likely to declare as the juniors.

Also, how do you feel about Terrelle Pryor as an NFL prospect? Does he have to convert to WR? I’ve seen Pat Devlin listed as a 1st round pick next year as well, so I guess you don’t like him so much? Or maybe you just haven’t seen a lot of him.

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 26, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I find it hard to judge guys based on a year.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see

Any thoughts on Pryor then?

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 26, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That bowl game perked my ears up. Still has a ton of work to do, though.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surprised to see Mike Pouncey so low

And I agree on the Kai Forbath ranking. Is anyone going to have the balls to take the best kicking prospect in a decade before the 4th round?

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Apr 26, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Pouncey is getting a position change from guard to center, so he’s kind of up in the air.

Forbath is money. The only field goals he missed last year were from beyond 50. I think he was 3-6.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not big. He’s not fast or shifty. Could change. Like I said, this is going to be real fluid.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not shifty?

Watch the national championship game again. Makes slight changes of direction at full speed.

by ct17 on Apr 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is the 2nd best RB on his team.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way

Ingram is better than Richardson

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

Richardson is a better NFL prospect.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta say

I thought Jurell Casey was about 60lbs heavier. Which would make him an orb.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

TV/N.Carolina

Well all we have to do is turn on our TV on Saturdays to watch N.Carolina.
Its seems from the look of things their defense will all be drafted in the top three rounds.
Sick.
Great Draft start to 2011.
Even though I pick only one correct regarding my beloved Bills the seventh pick.
K.Calloway/ROT to ROG
I do hope next year we get a few more correct.
N.Solder/ROT G.Carimi/LOT J.Moffit/LOG K.O’Dowd/OC
G.Romeus/DE C.Heyward/DE A.Clayborn/DE R.Quinn/DE M.Austin/NT
This is of course predicated on T.Edwards showing the success we thought he would based on picking him in third round three years ago.
If he does not deliver then we screw the above draft and go after J.Locker of Washington.

GO BUFFALO BILLS!

by Dziedzic on Apr 26, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

The crazy thing is I don’t have all their guys in there. If I expanded it to 100 there might at least one other guy.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good

Then we will get a couple of them in the second and third rounds.

by Dziedzic on Apr 28, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solder is a LT

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be watching them more

      I’ve been watching them more and more every year anyway, but now, damn

by dbcouver on Apr 28, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jake Locker too low.

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by Michael_Necci on Apr 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Go on.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think #5 is good. Once you get up into 5 through 1, it is hard to distinguish how much better one player is than the other, especially if they play different positions.

by terpfan812 on Apr 26, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Especially with a whole year of football to go. Plus if Dan were to do a mock draft, I doubt he’d have a receiver going first overall so you kinda gotta factor that in for what it’s worth.

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by Adam Stites on Apr 26, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right about the mock and a receiver not going No. 1.

I don’t have Locker rated higher because he’s been inconsistent and only a tools guy prior to last season. He showed flashes last year, which got him ranked that highly. But he has to do it for another year for me to be solidly sold on him.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he was accurate he’d be higher.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 27, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mallet i think could be a Snead type…He failed to come out and be a sure top 10 pick, elected to go back for another year of college and Snead destroyed his stock…I think Mallet could do that…Also i am a huge Luck fan but he may not come out

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by atlantalove on Apr 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Mallett didn’t lose his best two offensive teammates this season so he should be good. He also doesn’t have quite as inaccurate a throw as Snead seems to.

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by UZ on Apr 27, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree about Luck

        Playing another year under Harbaugh would be good for him.

by dbcouver on Apr 28, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sincerely hope Black and Will Hill stay in till 2012

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by jawsaints on Apr 26, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

How ’bout WR Torrey Smith from Maryland? The dude was 6th in the nation in all-purpose yards with 182.67 yards per game.

by terpfan812 on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks, I’ll keep an eye out for him.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I highly suspect that Iowa's Clayborn

won’t be drafted in the top half of the first round. I’m an Iowa alum and think Clayborn has the talent of a top 15 pick as well as the history of play, but that weird arm condition he had will scare teams. Teams will overlook some injuries, but he wasn’t supposed to be able to play sports. The guilty plea for assault won’t help either, and teams seem even more concerned about getting “high character” guys than ever. The team that gets him will be more than happy, but I think he’ll be waiting awhile before his name is called next April.

by Dr. Jay on Apr 26, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

That is all very interesting, thanks. This is the kind of stuff I love to get.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear Dan

In a vacuum I completely understand the love for Clayborn, he’s a monster that can play end in any kind of defense and work against the pass and run with a high motor. There’s nothing to dislike based on his play alone. I hope teams focus on that instead of the arm or character “issues,” as there’s a difference between a guy who’s a bit of an asshole and a guy who will be in legal trouble.

Since we’re talking about the Hawkeyes, how do you feel about their other draft eligible players? Most of Hawkeye nation feels like their defensive lynchpin is safety Tyler “Motherf*cking” Sash (if you haven’t seen the graphic, google it). Based on his play and what I estimate his measurables at, he looks like a mid-round pick, but I haven’t heard any commentary on him so I have no idea what to expect.

by Dr. Jay on Apr 27, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thus, draft eligible

I don’t expect him to leave, but if he’s viewed very highly be NFL scouts that could change fast.

by Dr. Jay on Apr 28, 2010 3:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

That assult was down graded to disorderly conduct.

If Kirk Ferentz isn’t going to suspend him for the assault, then there must have been certain circumstances that weren’t heard in the public forum. Adrian has been nothing but a model citizen as a Hawkeye otherwise.

by somerandom on Apr 27, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jacquizz Rodgers | 5'7, 192 pounds | RB | Oregon State

I don’t know if the rankings are legit or not – no idea. But can we nickname this guy “Jacuzzi?”

by Toddius on Apr 26, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I call him the Rodgers brother who is better.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our lists differ a bit

For one, I think more highly of Barksdale… and I couldn’t go anywhere near 75 deep at this point. But I think this can agree this this could be a bitch of a year for teams seeking OL help.

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by Conjunction on Apr 26, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

This will be a tough OL year. I don’t like Barksdale as much yet because he’s played on the right side. It’ll be interesting to see if he’s moved to the left, which I think he is going to be.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Right

He will leave Mizzou. Him being left off this list is crazy. He is likely to throw well over 4000 yards and well over 20 TDs. I wouldnt be surprised to see him go higher than any QB. He has more pure talent than Bradford (Not saying he is a better player at this point, there is a difference.) at this point, then Bradford had as a Sophmore.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

Mallet, Locker, Ponder, Luck would all go ahead of him if they entered.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way

Your telling me, 6’2 Ponder, will go ahead of 6’5 240 lb, 4.5 40, dead on accurate, throw the ball 90 yards Blaine Gabbert. Him and Mallet have the most talent of any QB draft Eligible next year. The only wway they go ahead of them is if he doesnt come out. NFL scouts look for QBs like Mallet and Gabbert over guys like Locker and Ponder.

Where is your arguement? Ponder and Luck’s stats are not comparable to Gabberts and they both played on better teams. Gabbert was also injured for 3 or 4 games. This was also his first year starting. Even Locker’s stats dont compare to Gabberts and Locker had a ton of exp. coming into the year. I just dont see your point. Saying, “Mallet, Locker, Ponder, Luck would all go ahead of him if they entered.” says nothing. Give me a reason, Ponder and Luck are the 5th and 8th ranked QBs IMO.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont want to argue about it

Its just my opinion. All I have to say is you are a Missouri Tigers fan so….

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You dont want to give facts?

Why not? It doesnt matter if im a Missouri Tiger fan, Im not the only person that thinks Gabbert will get drafted high. He is pretty much a lock for a 1st round pick, barring injury.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calling him a lock to be a1st is pretty silly considering everyone thought Clausen was a lock for the 1st and how did that end up.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure he could get injured but he isnt comparable to Clausen

He has the talent NFL teams covet. He is similar to Bradford in that regard. Also, Id never heard of Clausen being a lock as a 1st round draft pick until after the year was over. Never beleived that or heard it before that. Did i think he would go in the top 10, yeah. But never once thought of him as a lock before the year and I dont think many did.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point was

You shouldnt really ever call somebody a lock to be a 1st round so early, especially a QB.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ill make you a sig bet...

If you are going to be around. Barring Injury and death, Blaine Gabbert will be a 1st round pick when he comes out. Ill make my sig anything you want it to be.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never bet anything on Snead

Do you own someone yours on Clausen?

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me

I would never bet my signature – the draft and the nfl in general is too much of an uncertain thing. W/the exception of Bradford and Tebow, every QB dropped pretty far this draft.

by Naptime! on Apr 27, 2010 6:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

I wasn’t trying to be a tool and rub anything in, I just remember a lot of discussion and bets being thrown around – I wasn’t sure if one of them had to do w/Snead’s draft status.

by Naptime! on Apr 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he would go alot higher

Im shocked he didnt. To me, he still has more talent than Tebow, Clausen, and McCoy. I guess thats why im not a GM.

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by darwithabar on Apr 28, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think

Snead is more talented than Tebow, Clausen and McCoy? Wow im glad I didnt get in a discussion about Gabbert with you.

by Yankees10 on Apr 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still cant beleive him and Stull went undrafted

but someone like Clausen or even Pike would get drafted as high as they did.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've

Always thought Pike was garbage. I saw his huge fall coming.

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because Pike is Garbage

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by darwithabar on Apr 27, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it’s because Stull sucks.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 27, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that why Clausen fell to the 2nd round?

Because I remenber you swearing that Bradford would never go over him.

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by darwithabar on Apr 28, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I said Clausen is better but this is off subject. Stull still sucks

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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 28, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont know if I will even be around here in a year or 2.

Most likely I will be but we dont need to have a bet over it. The thing is I never did say he wasnt going to be a 1st rd pick from the beginning, I just think that if he were to enter the draft next year then he would go behind the four I mentioned.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its just doesnt make sense to say Ponder and Lcuk would go above him.

They dont have the Accuracy, arm strentgh, or the numbers. Your point was just invalid and doesnt make sense if you want give a reason. It makes me think you were just saying it to say it without even watching most of those guys. Ponder going over Gabbert is the equvilent of Daniels going over Sanchez. It just doesnt make sense.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIGHT NOW I have Ponder over Gabbert because of what Ponder looked like last year before his injury. Check out the North Carolina game. He tore a very good defense up.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really, Because Gabbert had a much better year and it was his first starting

Gabbert had almsot 10 more TDs, Almost 1000 more yards. I know Ponder is a good QB, but Gabbert is the much better pro prospect.

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by darwithabar on Apr 27, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess at the moment, I’ll just agree to disagree. Now that could change, but as of April 26, I like Ponder better.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 27, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Pro Prospect?

Thats my only case, I will even give Ponder the better QB right now. I just dont see how he is a better pro prospect. He is generouslly 6’2 and doesnt compare as far as velocity, zip, and accuracy. Thats my only point. Im not discrediting your opinion or anything.

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by darwithabar on Apr 27, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not trying to be a dick here, and I’m not saying you should base this solely on stats. But Ponder’s completion percentage was 68.8 percent last year compared to Gabbert’s 58.9.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 27, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know

Ponder was also a jr, compared to Gabberts first year seing the feild.

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by darwithabar on Apr 28, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You just said Ponder doesn't have the accuracy Gabbert does...

When there’s absolutely nothing that suggests that.

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by mittens on Apr 28, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gabbert plays a much weaker schedule of defenses, look it up.

Plus Ponder is the smartest qb in the country and plays in a pro offense with pro reads.

by Bud Elliott on Apr 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not giving reasons because

 I dont want to get into a whole big arguement about something thats a year or potentially two years away.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The last thing I am going to say about the subject

Is Ponder is the only one that Gabbert might be better than, but im sorry I just dont see him going over Locker, Luck and Mallet.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see him going over Mallet

But Locker got a mid round grade for a reason. If he would have got that 1st round grade (In a weak QB draft) he would have come out. Mel Kiper said Clausen would go in the top 10, just because he thinks Locker would, doesnt mean he will.

Also, If you state something like that, back it up with atleast a reason. Saying you dont want to get in an arguement is a scape goat at best. Back it up, or people wont take you seriously.

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by darwithabar on Apr 27, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have two shits

if you take me seriously or anyone else for that matter.

by Yankees10 on Apr 27, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both of you can stop now. Or I can ban you from the site. Either/or.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 27, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not gonna get into that

All im saying is if you will say that, why not back it up with something? Im not trying to “diss” on you.

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by darwithabar on Apr 28, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gotta put Luck as the #1 QB

he may not be able to throw like Locker, Gabbert or Mallet (lol..90 yards…) but its that pro style offense thing.

For the same reasons, at least in theory, that I take Clausen over Bradford…I take someone like Luck over these dudes.

Or at least when talking about the #1 overall and with hopes that the guy starts right away.

Plus coming from Stanford and playing under Jim Harbaugh?

All these others are nice developmental QB’s…but especially Gabbert, playing in that Mizzou offense, just like Bradford…I’m skeptical.

I think Bradford’s success..and how quickly he shows success…will go a long way with how teams see someone like Gabbert (at least the smart teams).

Cuz his stats get inflated a lot in that offense.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Honestly NFL teams dont really look at stats much when it comes to QB’s. Just look at Chase Daniels stats or Graham Harrells. Both had incredible stats, both went undrafted.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Daniels is only 6 ft tall (If that)

Harrell played for the Red Raiders, they threw the ball close to 70% of the time. Alot of different reasons go into that, none that are comparable to Gabbert.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats just not true

Stanford ran alot, so of course his numbers will be lower. But Mizzou actually runs the ball alot. They ran close to 50%. Same with alot of spread teams. If anything, the numbers are evened up by the pro style offenses deep routes and post patterns. Mizzou doesnt run the same spread that Tx Tech runs, where they throw the ball 65% of the time. Its more like 55%-45%. Same with Oklahome. I think the year Bradford went crazy, they ran the ball 43% of the time.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

inflation more meaning the accuracy numbers

the way the O is run, it just opens a lot of stuff up.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Example?

Im not sure I understand, they didnt throw the ball more than Arkansas. Their offense is not comparable to Techs. I know you watched the ball game where all they ran was that damn screen but that isnt how they played all year. They didnt throw that screen 1/4 as much all year as they did in that game. I bet they ran that route 3 or 4 times a game at most, but in the Navy game, they ran it like 18-20 times (I dont know why).

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

its the same offense that they had with Chase Daniel

except now its Blaine Gabbert and he’s 6"4 250, cannon arm, and runs a 4.5.

Either way, I see him looking to the side lines and not making pro reads for himself.

He’s got the physical talent. But he’s not taking the right classes.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You havent watched Mizzou football that much, have you?

Your talking about the Big 12 championship arent you? Ive only seen them do that with Daniels constantly. This year, Gabbert audibled out of plays himself and only looked over a couple times. We have been over this before. I know you havent watched much Miz football because its not on nationally, so I understand why you would think that.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe..we'll see

but you kinda do seem like the Notre Dame homers creaming over Dayne Crist.

I’ll be watching more of Mizzou this year simply cuz of Gabbert now..that’s for sure.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should

lol, you’re just as big a homer as TRSS, but anyways…

Dayne “Christ” Crist is actually my 3rd rated QB. I think people will be impressed with this guy. I have him above Locker. Ive seen Christ play in HS, Ive watched his tape from ND practice and I think he could sneak into the 1st round next year too. I think next year could be the deepest QB draft in a long time and as many as 5 could go in the first 40 something picks.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

This coming from someone wrong about every pick but one in the first round. I was also the first to call Mike Iupati and Jerry Hughes in the first (Back when Dan had Iupati as his 2nd or 3rd OG). Snead and Gabbert are even comparable. Gabbert is the poster boy of the NFL QB GMs crave. Snead is a guy with potential, but obviously he didnt live up to it. Im not the first person that thought he would go in the first. Obviously, its only my opinion. However, alot of people share it.

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by darwithabar on Apr 27, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's true

But as Mizzou homer….I’d think you wouldn’t want Gabbert to be like Snead.

He’d go undrafted.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 27, 2010 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

He just wont

He has to much talent. He was the number rated QB coming out of hs for a reason. He is already mocked in the 1st round by alot of people. It isnt farfetched to say he will be the first QB taken anymore than it is to say Mallet wil be.

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by darwithabar on Apr 28, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow about calling ME the homer.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 27, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vince Young isnt even comparable to Gabbert

they are to different of QBs. VY doesnt have the accuracy that Gabbert does.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gabbert and Mallet do throw the ball 80 yards.

Ive seen him throw the ball 65 with ease, and ive read he has thrown it close to 80 in practice. Maybe 90 was an exageration, but they by far have the strongest arms coming out.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jamarcus Russel, John Elway, Matthew Stafford, Vinny Testeverde

Alot of people. Whats your point?

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does matter when you're being evaluated by NFL scouts.

Id say its one of the top 2 or 3 things they look at. Bradford wasnt a lock to be the 1st pick until he proved his accuracy.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this comment is over a month old

But I don’t agree with arm strength as being a top 3 thing scouts look for in a qb. I think things that come before that are accuracy, decision-making, intelligence, leadership, mental toughness, and work ethic. Not comparing any qb’s here, but how many of these did Jamarcus have? How many did Peyton have? Obviously best and worst case scenarios but I would put all of those before arm-strength.

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by King of the Cassel on Jul 3, 2010 7:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

No

That is for sure…..

“No one could throw as far as…..BILL BRASKY!”

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This, I would say, is based on what the player is right now. Gabbert could be a guy that gets much higher. This is in no way set in stone.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

He isn’t including redshirt sophomores

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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 27, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

For me, it wasn’t about whether or not a player was going to come out early or not.

With Gabbert, obviously he has a projectable frame and looks the part. But he was shaky at times last year with a good bit of talent around him. I’ll be interested to see what he does this year. He’s one of those guys who could climb up this list in a hurry.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true

and I know what you mean. His injury didnt help and the fact that this was his first year starting. To be honest, he doesnt fit Mizzou’s offense at all. If he would have went to a pro style system, his numbers would probably be better.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it means anything to you, I’ve heard him compared to John Elway…

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ive heard it to

He is the fastest 6’5 240 QB ive ever seen. Im excited for this year, but we just dont have the talent around him for him to compete with TX or OU. Tex has a damn good QB, probably future number 1 pick and OU is always stacked.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

just one O-linemen in the top twenty?

by Dr. Cowboy on Apr 26, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like a weak class at this point. Could change though. I have to give the O-line guys a better look leading up to the season.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two words...

John Clay.

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by texwestern on Apr 26, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

What makes him different from the other enormous Wisconsin running backs?

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that he has 30 pounds on them?

6’2, 247 (Clay)
versus
5’11, 220 (Hill)
5’10, 194 (Calhoun)

and I’d say that he’s a much more intriguing prospect.

by Richard Hill on Jul 15, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Noel Devine 58?

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by smileyman on Apr 26, 2010 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The size scares me.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that how tall he is?

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by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 27, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not true, It is a deep year.

Dan was pretty tough on them IMO.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s deep, I’m just not sure the quality is there. Seems like a lot of second and third round guys at this point.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Reynolds is going to be a stud

I wouldnt be shocked to see 3 or 4 OT go in the top 10-15 picks. I guess that wouldnt be much deeper. I thought it was deep but I could be wrong. I will have to give them a closer look.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree. I admittedly don’t pay a ton of attention to sophomore offensive linemen. Should I? Sure, but I can only take so many notes.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I know, I dont either

Im just a huge fan of Reynolds and Boling. I want the Chiefs to draft one next year.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t disagree. Really interested to see how he develops this year. He really gets to the ball in a hurry.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Mallett's in my top five

As I said on another SBN board, he has everything you’d want in a pure passer. Jeff George kinda had that, except he had those problems between the ears. Mallett doesn’t seem to have that issue, and he’s also blessed with size that dwarfs Drew Bledsoe.

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by burntorangehorn on Apr 26, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I want to see Mallett take something off his throws. He has the same problem a lot of rocket-arm guys do in that he’s always throwing super hard all the time.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's probably a valid criticism

Petrino’s the type of guy who can work on that with him, thank heavens. But he’s been able to hit the short routes pretty well too, so he probably doesn’t have to take too terribly much off for the NFL receivers.

I really do think he’s set to be in the conversation for the top five next year, at least to a greater extent than Julio Jones will be. Both have a little work to do, although Mallett certainly has more momentum.

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by burntorangehorn on Apr 26, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Dan

Good job buddy. I just have a couple issues. Blaine Gabbert! His arm is just as strong as Mallet, and he is more gifted athletically. With less exp. than Mallet, he threw for almost as many yards and had a comparable QB ratings, and he was injured for 3 or 4 games. Also, Dareus, Boling, and Reynolds are way to low. Otherwise, its a pretty acurate list. Also, When can I start Scouting Reports? I know alot about a couple prospects in this draft and I think my reports could be very in depth and accurate when you compare them to this year. Let me know.

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by darwithabar on Apr 26, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh God it starts again

Now I have to learn even more names of which, only 7 will end up on my team….

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by Willgfass on Apr 26, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

haha

I know what you mean – but doesn’t it make you feel like an educated fan;)

by Toddius on May 4, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Foles

Whats your thoughts on Nick Foles? I doubt he would enter the draft but I was just wondering what your thoughts on him are.

by Yankees10 on Apr 26, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s certainly in the next group of junior quarterbacks.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 26, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I threw

Together a rough top 16 that I’m going to expand on for BCC. Would like to know what you guys think. Top 16

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by Bestjagfan on Apr 26, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Quarterbacks

I’m not really interested in their overall rank now, but rather the talent and where I see them headed. Being a Bills fan, I’ll be looking at QB’s closely this coming season.

I like Christian Ponder the most when it comes to the intangibles. I think he’s got the “it” factor going for him. And he’s accurate. Watching him versus UNC, it was almost unreal how many times he put the ball exactly where it needed to go in the strike zone. Most of his incompletions that game were due to receiver drops. He’s got mobility and is smart. Ponder has some injury concerns, and I’m not certain exactly where I grade his arm strength, but I know that I would be happy with him leading my football team.

Jake Locker’s NFL projection really depends on how he progresses this year. Physically, he’s a linebacker/fullback playing quarterback. His arm strength appears above average, and his accuracy looked OK to me, but I don’t think anyone’s confusing him with Bradford or Clausen in that area. I’m not sure on Locker’s ability to work through his progressions, but I do think he carries the “it” factor so coveted by NFL teams. With continued improvement under Sarkasian, he could be the first pick overall. But I could see him easily not being the first pick, behind other quarterbacks, due to concerns I mentioned above.

Based on the Texas game, Jerrod Johnson is a first rounder. I saw him make too many half field and simplistic reads, though, over the course of the season to put him that high. I also though that his delivery was a tad elongated, but he put a lot of velocity on the football. His arm, stature, and athleticism are good, and his head is screwed on right. If he plays all year like it’s the Texas game, he climbs the board big-time.

I’m not really sure what to think about Ryan Mallett. The NFL’s blitz packages tear up most of the league’s immobile QB’s. I’d like to see more movement from Mallett. Like Dan, I also think he throws one speed: rocket. And I noticed some reports about immaturity around the time he had to make his draft decision in 2009-10. If those issues get resolved, and I think most of them will, I can easily see Mallett leapfrogging Locker as the top QB.

I watched Blaine Gabbert a couple times last season, and I thought that he was similar to Mallett, with a little less zip on the ball, but still a great arm. Gabbert was hurt, so I don’t have a good indication on his mobility. I also don’t have a read on his ability to go through progressions, or his intangibles. I’ll be watching though.

Andrew Luck has first overall pick written all over him, IMO. Good arm, athletic, and a good leader. We’ll see more of the leadership now that Gerhard moved on. I thought his accuracy was very good. He plays in a pro style offense, decidedly smash-mouth, with less receiving talent than other PAC-10 schools, yet Luck was very good. I think he’s the type of QB that can carry Stanford, or any other team, by himself, with the ever-coveted “it” factor. I helps that his head coach is a former NFL QB, and tough-minded. I also think Luck’s head is screwed on very tightly, and don’t see him coming out before he graduates.

I won’t comment on Pat Devlin, mostly because I haven’t seen him and won’t pretend to know anything about him, because I don’t.

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by Der Jaeger on Apr 26, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

See, I dont get it

Andrew Luck had the worst comp. % on that list, yet you praise his accuracy.

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by darwithabar on Apr 27, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luck plays in a Erhardt-Perkin style offense

Where most of his throws aren’t half-field reads. He’s also throwing the ball to receivers that aren’t seperating a lot. He’s also not throwing the ball a lot for a college offense (5 games where he threw the ball 20 times or less), so missing on a couple will screw his percentage up.

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by Der Jaeger on Apr 28, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting you pick Ponder first
I like Christian Ponder the most when it comes to the intangibles. I think he’s got the "it" factor going for him. And he’s accurate. Watching him versus UNC, it was almost unreal how many times he put the ball exactly where it needed to go in the strike zone. Most of his incompletions that game were due to receiver drops. He’s got mobility and is smart. Ponder has some injury concerns, and I’m not certain exactly where I grade his arm strength, but I know that I would be happy with him leading my football team.

Ponder had a problem with his back last year.. but his leadership is really fantastic..
If his name was beginning to be put on the Heisman lists when he stupidly damaged his shoulder. But the guy is all heart, and that is only equalled by his great brain.

What he adds to a team are phenomenal.. and I am sure we will see more of it this year.. when people start to pay attention.

by Mr. Seminole on Apr 28, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Oct. 22 game, where Ponder was 33 of 40, 395 yards, 3 TD's,

And brought them back from 24-6 to win.

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by Der Jaeger on Apr 28, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll get back to you later today on this one Der. Great comment.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 28, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

OK

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by Der Jaeger on Apr 28, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think I disagree with anything you said. I think I might like Locker a touch better than you, but that’s it. I haven’t watched enough Luck to form an opinion that strongly on him. Same with a guy like John Brantley.

On Jerrod Johnson: I think he’s a good quarterback coach away from being a very good player. I think he got exposed some by Oklahoma’s pass rush.

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by Dan Kadar on Apr 28, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't watched any of Brantley, really

Or Devlin. I saw Luck quite a bit. Direct TV’s PAC-10 network covered Stanford a lot, if anyone wanted to stay up that late. I did, and I thought that he was as good as made out to be. The only thing that concerns me is that Harbaugh plays a power game that doesn’t put a ton of weight on Luck’s shoulders. I don’t think we’ll see how Luck handles the consistent pressure of the offense resting on him until this season.

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by Der Jaeger on Apr 29, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one has really seen Brantley. I’ve only seen Devlin twice and he looked good now were they only two good games? I don’t know. I do agree with you on Luck 100%. Without the runner that Gerhart is it should be interesting to see how that Stanford offense goes. We could get to see what Luck is all about, or we could have some questions.

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by tj.hendricks on Apr 30, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m interested in how Luck’s season goes as well.

Overall, doing some almost-May predicting, I think Luck stays in school, Mallett goes first overall, with Locker in the top 10, Ponder and also Johnson getting selected in the first round.

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by Der Jaeger on Apr 30, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not gonna rank the QBs until I see another year since they're so close and it's largely subjective

All I know is that teams that need franchise quarterbacks will get their chance next year. As a Jaguar fan I’m convinced we’ll be going QB in the 1st round next year and I’d be happy with any of the top 5 or 6 QBs in the nation.

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by Adam Stites on Apr 26, 2010 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice list Dan

and also love to see the discussion about Ponder. I’m a bit of a homer obviously, but Ponder is the real deal. Him, Hudson, and Bradham all have the potential to be first round, high second round picks. And to say he has arm strength and accuracy problems (darwithabar) probably means you haven’t seen him play much.

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by 1newplayer on Apr 27, 2010 1:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Some "small school prospects"

that I’ll be trying to keep an eye on this year

QB Pat Devlin Deleware
    November 20th they play Villanova, hopefully this is on ESPNU. Transfer from Pittsburgh.

QB Blake Bolles Northwest Missouri St.
    I will see him on September 18th when they visit Nebraska Omaha.

QB Arvell Nelson Texas Southern
  Transfer from Iowa. They play UCONN on September 11th.

RB Mon Williams Eastern Illinois
   Play Iowa on September 4th. Also play Tennessee St. November 6th hopefully on ESPNU. Florida transfer.

TE Schuyler Oordt Northern Iowa
  Play Iowa on September 25th. Play Missouri St. on November 13th.

TE Mike Higgins Nebraska Omaha
   I’ll see him throughout the year I live in the area.

G Benjamin Ijalana Villanova
   November 20th against Delaware. September 3rd they play Temple.

G David Arkin Missouri St.
  September 11th they play Kansas St., November 13th Northern Iowa.

DE Christian Anthony Grambling
  September 4th they play Louisiana Tech, November 27th they play Southern, I believe this game is on NBC. I watched him twice last year, he’s the real deal.

DT Kendrick Ellis Hampton
   Transfer from South Carolina, September 2nd they play Central Michigan.

DT D’Angelo McCray Eastern Illinois
   Play Iowa on September 4th. Also play Tennessee St. November 6th hopefully on ESPNU. Illinois transfer, was originally a TE.

DE/LB Jabari Fletcher Appalachian St.
  October 16th they play Citadel, November 20th the Florida Gators.

CB Cortez Allen Citadel
   September 11th they play Arizona. October 16th Appalachian St.

CB/WR Trumaine Johnson Montana
   October 2nd they play Northern Colorado. October 16th Portland St.

CB DeShawn Shead Portland St.
  September 4th Arizona St., September 18th Oregon, October 16th Montana, November 13th Northern Colorado.

S Mark LeGree Appalachian St.
   October 16th they play Citadel, November 20th the Florida Gators.

S Max Hewitt Northern Colorado
   September 25th Michigan St. November 13th Portland St.

S Eugene Clifford Tennessee St.
  Transfer from Ohio St., November 19th Eastern Illinois.

Hopefully ESPNU will pick up some of these games.

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by tj.hendricks on Apr 27, 2010 3:51 AM EDT reply actions  

good stuff TJ

might as well get to know these names….or at least Jaguars fans. 3/4 of these guys will be on their team next year.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 27, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just saying, Pat Devlin transferred from Penn State, not Pittsburgh

by terpfan812 on Apr 27, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad

I must’ve been thinking of Flacco while typing it out.

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by tj.hendricks on Apr 27, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, not to be nitpicky because it really doesn't make a huge difference but...

Schuyler Oordt plays Iowa St. on September 25, not Iowa.

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by Colteyes on Apr 27, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad.

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by tj.hendricks on Apr 27, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey bro, where you been?

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 27, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took a break from this site. I was getting irritated very easily and figured why not take a break.

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by tj.hendricks on Apr 27, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that will do it for me for awhile

talk to you guys after the season.

"That's not a weird stat. Rickie is a run-scorer," Yost said. "It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter," Yost told reporters. "See, you guys have no concept. He's a run-scorer. So there's nothing weird about it. That's what he does."

by Hyatt on Apr 27, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Hey Dan, I sent you an email.

Writer at MockingTheDraft.com. Does this make me a "Draft Expert"? lol.

by JP 23 on Apr 27, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Dan, what happened to me only saying Rudolph was good because of my ‘bias’.

;-)

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 27, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

That was like a year ago!

Mocking the Draft: Talking NFL Draft all year.

by Dan Kadar on Apr 28, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

It still happened! Haha

Scientific research has proven that you lose exactly 5.37 billion brain cells every time you listen to Todd McShay.

by TheRealSlimShady on Apr 28, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

given the lack of qbs in this draft

next years draft will lean heavy on qbs.

might be 6 taken in the top 10… or so it seems.

by Mr. Seminole on Apr 28, 2010 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

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