Rock out with your mock draft out: 3k
by Dan Kadar on May 19, 2010 6:43 PM EDT
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PrintThere are few SB Nation people who I consider cooler than 3k of Turf Show Times. Three reasons:
1: He's an NFL Draft fiend.
2: He frequently links to MTD.
3: He puts a ton of work into his mocks.
If you want to see a combination of all three, check out his 2011 mock draft here. Doing a mock draft this time of year accomplishes only one thing: It fills your heroin-like need for draft goodness. Because of that, I have a hard time ripping his draft order (Jacksonville first, Minnesota over Baltimore in the Super Bowl). It's also hard to criticize who he has going where.
For this exercise, we'll hit on some players I don't have ranked in my top 75 who he has being drafted. And some explanation on my part.
- 1. Jacksonville Jaguars - Andrew Luck | QB | Stanford
Why he is excluded: In the initial top 75, I didn't include redshirt sophomores. Specifically, because I haven't seen quite enough of Luck. However, the evaluation process at MTD is non-stop. Someone is sending me Stanford games to check out, so expect some Luck talk throughout the spring/summer when I get to it.
12. Tennessee Titans - Sam Acho | DE | Texas
Why he is excluded: I don't think he's quite the playmaker Sergio Kindle and Brian Orakpo were. There's a certain explosive ferocity missing in Acho's game. He's solid, and that's it. He's in the next group (coming soon!), however.
18. Arizona Cardinals - Nick Foles | QB | Arizona
Why he is excluded: Foles is the next junior quarterback in my QB rankings. His frame is good, but he comes from a gimmicky spread offense. His pocket presence is very questionable. Also this.
30. New Orleans Saints - Evan Royster | RB | Penn State
Why he is excluded: Slow feet. It's harsh, but true. A running back with slow feet won't get very far.
43. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Todd Pinkston | OT | Pittsburgh
Why he is excluded: He's in the next grouping of players. I don't dislike him, but I'm not blown away.
49. Houston Texans - Nate Potter | OT | Boise State
We he is excluded: See above. Potter's upside is greater than Pinkston's, though.
53. San Francisco 49ers - Don'ta Hightower | MLB | Alabama
Why he is excluded: There were moments in the four games Hightower played last season that he looked better than Rolando McClain. That's high praise. But he's coming back from injury and moving from outside to inside linebacker. He has to show his worth before I rank him.
54. Green Bay Packers - Ryan Williams | RB | Virginia Tech
Why he is excluded: Williams didn't make the cut because he's a redshirt sophomore. But it will be interesting to see how many less carries he gets this season now that Darren Evans is back from injury. It should be noted that Williams has missed time this spring with a bruised knee.
62. New Orleans Saints - Mark Herzlich | OLB | Boston College
Why he is excluded: We left Herzlich off because he missed all of last battling cancer. When he's on, he's a top 20 player. He'll just have to prove it again this fall.
64. Minnesota Vikings - Derek Wolfe | DT | Cincinnati
Why he is excluded: Right now, I don't see a lot in Wolfe. He's not overly powerful or athletic. There are several other tackles better – Jerrell Powe, Jarvis Jenkins, Drake Nevis.
But this is all the fun of doing mocks in the spring and summer. So I encourage all of you to continue putting up mocks in the FanPosts.
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I don't wanna be a douche about order
But seriously, Jacksonville first? I’m not saying we go to the playoffs this year, though we have a chance, but we win at least 7 or 8 games worst case scenario.
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Great work though
Gotta give respect to a two rounder in May. I just don’t see some of the things he has happening.
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7 or 8 games worst case scenario.
Ha! Yeah right. I see that as the best case. You don’t have a good QB, and your WR group is sub-par as well. Throw in a lack of pass rush and a somewhat weak secondary, I don’t see much good about this team.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 19, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Most teams ‘appear’ to improve over the offseason. When you hardly do anything to improve…
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 19, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't saying they 'appeared' to improve
I’m just asking how did they regress. The Jaguars are one of the youngest teams in the league with almost 10 rookies having significant roles last year. How does a team full of rookies go from playoff contender to first overall? I’m not saying they’re Super Bowl bound, but I just don’t understand the regression everyone expects.
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If I'm remembering Football Outsiders' number correctly they believe Jacksonville seriously overachieved last year.
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by shake n bake on May 19, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently I'm not
they have the Jags as about as good as their record (a soft 7-9)
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by shake n bake on May 20, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
also as another example, football reference has their expected wins last year at 5.5
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that must be what I was thinking of
pythag wins. They were outscored by a greater margin than is normal for a barely under .500 team.
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by shake n bake on May 21, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Slim
You and I both know you are talking out your a**. Come on man. There is no way we got worse, like Adam said. The only major contributor we lost from last year was Torry Holt, and he didn’t even contribute any TDs. We have a pro bowl running back, a stable of wide receivers, and David Garrard is average at worst. How do you define good QB?
Our two 2nd year tackles will be better after promising first years. The interior of our line should be at full strength health wise.
We have some playmakers developing in Zach Miller and Mike Thomas.
We added talent to the defensive line, a top five middle linebacker, which will give us the best group of starting linebackers in the AFC South, and Derrick Harvey is entering his third and likely highly productive year. Like the offense, we didn’t lose anyone who contributed anything to the team last year.
How did we get worse?
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I just don’t see where your wins will come from, the titans and colts are good and the texans might be better than you too, so that is a tough group of games. Plus you all played a cake schedule last year.
It also wouldn’t surprise me If MJD gets hurt and garrard starts regressing
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 20, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
You know we wouldn't listen to you,
when you say one of the reasons we wouldn’t win is that we have crap WRs. I think the “general consensus” is that Mike Smis-Walker is a good WR, maybe not elite or great, but good. And when do we care if we have Great WRs? I mean aren’t we the Jaguars, the team who wants to run the ball? I also think you’ll have to account for that messed up way we play week to week. I think we’ll do far better than the raiders, lions, bears, seattle, and all.
As for pass rush, you are must not of seen the 4 draft picks we spent on our defensive line. One of them you’d probably actually know, Austen Lane, you might develop into something later.
Lets be real and not act on pre-existing opinions.
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Austen Lane, who* might develop into something later.
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+1 Teal
Pre-existing opinions was the word I was looking for.
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MSW is an average #1 at best but a good #2 at this point. he might turn into a decent #1 this year, but as it stands, you really have a #2 option and a slot guy (thomas)
As for pass rush, you are must not of seen the 4 draft picks we spent on our defensive line.
you fail to mention that you didn’t get a pass rush specialist before the 5th round. the first 2 picks along the D-Line were DTs. yes, those guys can make an impact on the pass rush but if you expect Smith and Alualu to vastly improve your pass rush, you are way to optimistic.
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Well it can't get worse can it? Haha
Don’t forget about Kampman by the way. Yeah, yeah, I know, he had ACL surgery and we’re way too optimistic.
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by Adam Stites on May 21, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. I still think first overall is extremely pessimistic, but .500 to me for the Jags would be a bit optimistic. I see about 6 wins.
I guess you can say it can’t get worse…but the pass rush got significantly worse in 2009 with only losing an aging paul spicer. I mean at this point you might think it has to get better, but that is not a guarantee.
Kampman I believe is fading…even before the injury. In his last 19 games played, he has 7 sacks (averaging less than 6 per 16 games). He was fading at the end of 2008 too.
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You'll have to excuse us
if we hope for a better than 7-9 record
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Real fans don’t need a reason.
Its fine if you hope for better than a 7-9 record. that is perfectly fine. whether or not that is realistic or will happen…well, thats another story
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Prepare to be very disappointed
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 23, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I would say, looking at your team, 7-9 is not a terrible option. some sources thought the Jaguars overachieved a bit last year. Yes, there were some improvements in the offseason, but this year you have a much tougher schedule, and may not be enough improved to overcome a tough schedule.
8-8 I would be extremely pleased as if I was a fan. 7-9 would make me happy. 6-10 would disappoint me a small amount, and anything less would ba a large disappointment.
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umm, yes DTs will improve the pass rush
As for DE’s I will state that i expect Kampmen to get 5ish sacks and well I have no hope for Harvey but I do expect a vastly better pass rush, by our standards
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by your standards, yeah I can see it improving, but by NFL standards, not much.
I am not saying DTs won’t improve the pass rush, but being realistic, even a first round DT is not guaranteed to make a significant impact on the pass rush. There have been 36 DTs taken since 1999 and only about 8 have made a significant impact rushing the passer their rookie year. that is 22%. Some guys that made a small impact ended up being great players though (haynesworth, marcus stroud).
To think that Alualu is guaranteed to improve the pass rush is way to optimistic…sorry. players who were better, more talented coming out, than alualu have made less of an impact. the guys who ended up making an impact were truly elite talents like Tommie Harris, Kevin Williams, Gerard Warren. Physically, and as a prospect, Alualu is nowhere near them (though I am not one of those overly critical of the pick). He could be a good player in the future, but to count on significant production and pressure from him this year is highly optimistic looking at the history of DTs drafted.
also, during the same time period (1999-2009) there were 31 DTs drafted in the 3rd round. I had a lower standard of making an “impact” for them…basically making a significant impact at all as a 3rd rounder. However, only 5 out of the 31 really made any sort of impact (16%).
There is an outside shot one of them makes some sort of impact with your pass rush, but not a particularly good one. history is not on your side. your subject line says the DTs will improve the pass rush. the actual chances (based on similar test subjects) is less than 4% that they both improve the pass rush in any noticable manner. not good odds…
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I stand that the DTs we have, will improve our pass rush
The measure of improvement will be shown (if at all) during the season.
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Real fans don’t need a reason.
you can stand by that. That doesn’t make it logical at all or right…but at least you are sticking to your guns. maybe they will buck the trend and both make a significant impact next year…at 80 to 3 odds. they will have all the opportunity to do so.
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Austen Lane, you might develop into something later.
Exactly. LATER
Alualu will probably be kinda good, but I don’t see anyone else doing anything this first year.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 22, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
1 pretty good WR doesn’t make a good group of WRs.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 22, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Just reading your comments
It’s painfully obvious that you don’t watch the Jaguars play. It’s ok, if I wasn’t a fan, I probably wouldn’t. Of the 32 teams they’re definitely in the bottom 3 of interest from a national perspective, so I get it.
But for a team you know so little about, you talk way too much.
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I love when people don’t address what you say.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 23, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
you mean, kinda like they are making a man out of straw, attacking it and refuting it?
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exactly
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 23, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
perhaps not necessarily regressing
but other teams improve more
and TheRealSlimShady is right about scheduling.. that is a big factor
I don’t see how Carolina could possibly be #6 with a top 5 easiest schedule and our offense/defense (only question is at QB, but Moore or Clausen should perform admirably), but I can understand the concept of team self-implosion lol
Schedule
Is overrated. Year in and out teams are great one year and bad the next. You can’t judge how hard your schedule is going to be off of past results without a grain of salt.
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You can’t expect to get such an easy schedule again though.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 22, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If you win the games you should and upset the ones your told you can't
it comes to a winning record. Thats what you have to do regardless of schedule
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by TheTealDeal on May 22, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
What does that have to do with the Jaguars?
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 23, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What does it not have to do with the Jaguars
It applies to all teams. Schedule doesn’t matter if you win games
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by TheTealDeal on May 23, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If you are elite yes. If not…
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 24, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
but only the truly best teams even win all the games you should. for a league average team, you often don’t always win the games you should. you may get an upset, but it will be offset by blowing it to a bad team.
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Thats true
but the winners find a way to go over .500
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by TheTealDeal on May 23, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah…I mean obviously…
the question remains: are the Jags that type of “winner”?
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yeah. their schedule last year was below average in toughness and this year it is top 5 in toughness (when compared to 2009 records)
I do believe that a lot of teams improved.
personally, I only see 3 guaranteed wins and another 3 that they could win. I put them at 5-6 wins personally.
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Unless you're talking about Jacksonville
Carolina’s schedule was the second toughest in the league, behind only Miami.
Good bye #43. Good luck in Chicago.
by Flowing Willow on May 21, 2010 4:21 AM EDT up reply actions
it's that Red Queen
Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen
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by shake n bake on May 22, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with you that they didnt downgrade but I disagree when you say Kirk Morrison is a top 5 MLB and that you guys have the best group of LB’s in the NFC South. I would take the Colts and Texans over your guys anyday
Name Your Top 5
Middle 4-3 backers.
Daryl Smith is one of the top three in the league outside, not being a homer there. Seriously underrated, always gets it done. Justin Durant has played well and is getting better season by season. With Kirk Morrison, thats a solid group on paper. Can’t judge them any other way, because the season hasn’t started yet.
Clint Session is a good player, though he plays on the weakside opposite of Smith, so I’ll line him up with Smith. Debatable, but I’d still take Smith. Gary Bracket? I’d take Morrison all day long. Philip Wheeler over Justin Durant? Yeah right.
Demeco Ryans is great in the middle. I think he is pretty underrated, though he has been recognized. Debatable with Morrison, but for this I’ll say Ryans. Brian Cushing showed promise last year, but I’d take Smith on the strong side 8 days a week. Then Durant is better than all the people they have in and out of the weakside spot.
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My top 5
1. Pat Willis
2. Jon Beason
3. Demeco Ryans
4. Ray Lewis
5. Jonathan Vilma
I still would take the Colts and Texans LB’s over yours. I think most non-Jags fans would. I also think you are overrating some of your LB’s.
I feel you
It all comes down to opinion. Like I said, we just gotta wait until the season starts. I like our group of LBs on paper, but I can’t plead too much of a case until they all show up together as a unit and stay healthy.
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I don't think i'd take the Colts LBs over the Jags
Maybe the texans.
but btw, the Jaguars are in the AFC south, not the nfc.
that you guys have the best group of LB’s in the NFC South
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Texans:
Ryans=Morrison (both equally good)
Cushing>Smith (smith the better tackler but cushing is a better playmaker with more upside whereas Smith is still as good of a player as he was in ’07 though not much better)
Durant>Danny Clark/Zac Diles
Advantage: Texans. I think the difference between smith and cushing will be bigger than the difference at WLB. Also think they have a bit more talented backups.
Colts:
Session>Durant
Brackett<Morrison
Wheeler<Smith
Advantage: Even. Starters a bit better with Jacksonville, Backups a bit worse.
Titans:
Will Witherspoon=Daryl Smith
Steven Tulloch<Kirk Morrison (not by much)
David Thornton/Winborn>Durant.
Adv: titans. better backups IMO.
the argument can be made, and definitely that they have the best starting 3, but LBs definitely do not play 100% of downs.
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You
Aren’t far from my opinion. Just saying I like our guys as a group, and I think they will be the best in the AFC South next year. Only time will tell.
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cushing flat out makes plays. Smith is a good player but he hasn’t improved in my mind since about 2007. He has become maybe a bit more instinctive but he has plateaued. that being said, he is still a very good player.
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no one would touch Morrison as a RFA for a 2nd round pick this offseason
while Brackett got a 5 year deal with a 12mil bonus. It’s pretty obvious who teams around the league value more.
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by shake n bake on May 21, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Ryans=Morrison really?
Ryans became one of the highest paid MLB’s in the league and teams were hesitant to give up a third rounder for Morrison.
You must really hate brackett.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 22, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm...
…the Patriots taking full back in the 2nd? A 4-3 DE in the 1st? Not a single offensive lineman?
Not a big fan of the draft for my team.
Quan Sturtivant would be a nice...
woulda been better if he was in the draft this year. I don’t think next year whether the Giants need him or not they’ll draft him anyway…but still. I guess every Mock from now until next April will be giving the Giants a MLB?
Just keep winning
Don’t be surprised to see it. I don’t think a 4th rounder is gonna keep you from drafting someone in the 1st.
I could see MLB, DT, RB, or O-line.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 22, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
most likely not.
they’ll sign a FA MLB instead.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 22, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
They might, but right now they haven’t.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 23, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
because its not the 2011 offseason yet.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 24, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just saying that you can’t act like its already a done deal.
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by TheRealSlimShady on May 24, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe.....given the Giants history...
yes, it most likely is. They don’t draft MLB’s or really any LB that high.
If the defense is back to respectability next year, its basically in stone that they’ll just go with Goff or whoever it is
So as long as there’s a MLB mocked to the Giants..I’ll doubt it.
by FreeBradshaw on May 25, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
it depends on how the 4th rounder does. If the 4th rounder emerges like Elvis Dumervil did or Owen Daniels, then maybe the team doesn’t need to draft a guy for where you play in the first. It depends on how well the player does.
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the 4th rounder is not who they're counting on to emerge.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 24, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Wilkinson, Goff, Blackburn
one of the above. Most likely Goff cuz he’s very smart and likes to knock the snot out of people.
Dillard’s probably 4th in line there, but given a chance.
And yes, it doesn’t matter that no one knows who these guys are. If the DL is playing like it should, as long as the MLB can just make tackles, they’ll be fine. Goff hasn’t gotten much run, but he’s been groomed for the job since 2008.
They don’t need an elite player there. They got away with Pierce there all these years cuz he’s an extremely smart player.
by FreeBradshaw on May 24, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
of course I'd love if Wilkinson was finally healthy
and got the spot. Cuz he was athletic enough to cover Randy Moss downfield a few times in 2007. Giants could use that sort of athlete in the LB spot. But he’s never ever healthy.
by FreeBradshaw on May 24, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand the QB in the second for the Steelers
If we’re drafting at 23 it’s probably because Dixon or Left didn’t screw it up. So why would we go out and draft another QB?
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?
I would love the Rams pick-ups
It would plug holes we missed with this draft. Unless Selvie performs to potential, I think we’ll need a DE, OLB is a great second rounder if Ayres is still there. I was in the Cameron Heyward-Von Miller Camp but Clayborn is a sack machine with a high motor. Von Miller will probably not last till the second round either so this works for me. So you know what that means 3K.
Nice Job
but I think that the Skins will be going QB. With the young, talented QBs that will be available next year I think the Redskins will try & find that elusive “franchise” QB. If not, then NT would make a lot of sense. Both Devin Thomas & Malcolm Kelly looked good at times last year & hopefully will mature into good WRs with Kyle Shannahan being the new OC.
Mark Herzlich
There’s a small part of me that wants to see Ernie Sims fail with the Eagles. Why? Because perhaps Ricky Sapp and Herzlich could form a LB tandem around Steward Bradley. That’d be sick.
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There better be.
Lance Armstrong got huge publicity for his overcoming of cancer. Herzlich went through bone cancer, if I’m not mistaken, and yet is still able to play football. Just plain amazing.
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by Scott Kessler on May 21, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup
I doubt any teams pre-draft interviews will include questions on things like heart or leadership.
Or maybe teams will go the Myron Rolle route...
And question him “leaving” his team for chemo.
I guarantee some deuchebag comes up with a great question/comment like that.
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by Scott Kessler on May 21, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree…except comparing being a decent football player to winning the Tour De France 7 times, then coming back at age 37, a year older than the oldest ever winner, and finishing third.
Lance Armstrong had a tumor in his brain and in his lungs and became one of the greatest athletes in history.
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The best thing Armstrong did was appear in “Dodgeball”. I think it truly cemented his legacy. [/sarcasm]
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by Scott Kessler on May 21, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, Clayborn story
I’m a student at Iowa and sometimes my buddies or myself run into Iowa players around campus (or in the case of one player, the Christmas party at our apartment). Two of my friends were at the Fieldhouse playing basketball at the same time as Clayborn. Clayborn is listed 6’3" ~280, but they think he looks shorter. In one of his games, from outside the lane, he went up and dunked on a guy so hard that it turned heads all through the gym. Insane.
(though apparently TE Tony Moeaki, now of the Chiefs, was better at basketball than Clayborn)
Luck is probability taken personally, clutch is probability attributed to individuals.
Just how deeply can your senses be wrong? With some VR goggles, a camera and a touch on the back researchers were able to overcome a person's sense of being inside their own body.
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