Biggest Non-QB Busts
by Jonathan Loesche on May 6, 2010 8:45 PM EDT
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PrintH/T to witty for suggesting this in the JaMarcus Russell thread. Since almost all of the major draft busts are QBs, time to devote some time to other positions
Biggest OT draft bust.
Tony Mandarich
Biggest RB draft bust
Any Penn St RB taken before Larry Johnson
Biggest WR draft bust.
R. Jay Soward
Biggest TE draft bust
I can't remember his name, he was taken by New England in 2002 1st round out of Colorado. (editor: Daniel Graham)
Biggest DE draft bust.
Biggest DT draft bust.
Biggest LB draft bust.
Brian Bosworth
Biggest CB draft bust.
Rashad Anderson
Biggest S draft bust.
Roy Williams
Biggest K/P draft bust.
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Dez Bryant
wow that really added something.
Never assume skill at bouncing a ball makes you smarter than the guy who built the court.
When there's a WILL there's a WAY
And Roy Williams was an elite player for a couple of years
but then he went downhill real fast
2009 BTB Fantasy Champ... Deal with it
I'm not sure about elite
He was kinda inconsistant and was good some games, sucky in others
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Real fans don’t need a reason.
I still laugh thinking about how good we made out in that trade
Even when the trade happened Lions fans were ecstatic. We had absolutely no idea how a team could think Roy Williams was worth that much. Good times.
Jamaal Anderson would be the DE in my opinion
Roy Williams is no bust. I’m sorry even know the Pro Bowl is kind of BS, your not a bust if bust you make one, especially five. Also Sebastian Janikowski isnt a bust its just a really really really stupid pick.
I'd consider Courtney Brown for biggest DE bust
just because he was the number on pick as a DE
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Dimitrius Williams
first round pick who was in training camp for one day then just ran away
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on May 6, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure how much of a bust someone is
when they are named team captain on both teams he has played on
He was a team captain but still a bust, not a good player
just a great locker room guy
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on May 6, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
He is know as a blocking tight end
I don’t know where this hate is coming from he is one of the better blocking tight ends in the NFL he just doesn’t catch a ton of balls every year.
Couldnt agree more
Hes a great player, hes just in an O that doesnt throw to TE’s. Hes THE best blocking TE in the league, IMO, and hes the only reason we could run, cuz we had to run the ball to the outside since we couldnt run it up the middle
Seriously? Kellen Winslow JR anyone?
Anthony Becht? Bubba Franks?
I mean Graham isn’t even the TE bust of his draft. Would you rather have Graham, Shockey or Jeremy Stevens as your TE in 2010?
All 3 were first round picks
You don't think Becht, Steven or Franks are busts?
Even Shockey, given his in ability to stay on the field is getting closer to bust then all pro…
No not at all
Becht has played 10 years, Franks made three Pro Bowls. I dont know who Steven is. Do you mean Jerramy Stevens? And Shockey a bust? Are you kidding me? He only was one of the best TE in the league a couple of years ago.
I would say Stevens is and maybe more than Graham. Shockey is a good player but was overhyped and overdrafted. there are very few “busts” at the position, especially at the level of some other positions, but a lot of major disappointments.
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Graham's a great blocker. Shockey's a very effective player, when healthy.
He steps to the left, he steps to the riiiiiiight. That Amos Roberts, he'll make you look shite!
I agree. I would say graham is a very good blocker, but not great. I still wouldn’t totally call him a bust. like I said, many TEs that we may label as “busts” are just disappointments. when drafting a TE that high, many turn out to be at least somewhat of a disappointment. even some of the major diappointments turn out to be solid players. I think stevens is the biggest “bust” because he was never all that good.
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Before his injury in 2007, Shockey was an excellent TE.
He was over annoying with his mouth on the field, other then that he wasn’t overhyped or drafted at all.
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by FreeBradshaw on May 9, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
My Rankings
Biggest OT draft bust. Alex Barron
Biggest RB draft bust. Darren McFadden
Biggest WR draft bust. Rae Carruth
Biggest TE draft bust. Ben Watson
Biggest DE draft bust. Andre Wadsworth
Biggest DT draft bust. Steve Emtman
Biggest OLB draft bust. Huey Richardson / Vernon Gholston
Biggest MLB/ILB draft bust. Brian Bosworth
Biggest CB draft bust. Rashard Anderson
Biggest S draft bust. Don Rogers
Biggest K/P draft bust. Russell Erxleben
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by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on May 6, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions
alex barron, really?
"Your favorite kind of cake can't be birthday cake, that's like saying your favorite kind of cereal if breakfast cereal."- Parks and Recreation
mandarich
Bounced back and was a good OG for the Colts, dont know if Barron can make that transition
Barron is still the starter at LT, I know he may get moved or cut this yr, but even after drafting
jason smith with the 2nd pick overall, they kept Barron as the starting LT. I vote Mandarich.
and DE I vote underwood. (even though Wadsworth and Courtney Brown were picked much higher)
Barron
has been a starter at OT every year he’s been in the league. He’s not a star, but he’s hardly a bust.
Another tackle to consider is Mike Williams
- 4 overall by the Bills in 2002. Now a backup RT for the Redskins.
Actually sounds kinda familiar. Number 4 overall, tackle, Big 12, has dealed with weight issues, last name “Williams”.
Just kidding Redskin fans!
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
He'll be fine
but thanks for handing us the best tackle in the last 2 drafts (in my extremely biased opinion)
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Yeah
I know. Time will tell but in my very limited & humble opinion I think the Redskins made a huge mistake in passing on Okung, congrats on an excellent draft.
Mandarich on colts<<Barron (minus penalties). With penalties, Mandarich on colts<Barron.
There is also the whole thing about hype and expectations.
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there has to be someone who sucked worse than barron and mandarich..
Mandarich probably takes the cake though because he was billed as the best prospect ever and then when he had to stop taking steroids was terrible. So as far as hype and expectations, it’s tough to give anyone the nod over Mandarich
exactly. bust is not just who sucked the most. it is about expectations. it is about expected production vs. actual production.
this is why I think Charles Rogers was a much bigger bust than R Jay Soward. people knew some of soward’s off the field issues. he was also a guy who was talented but never blossomed in college like Rogers. that is why he went 29th overall. there were fairly high expectations, but not like Rogers. Rogers was compared to Randy moss, because of the TD record. Looking back, Rogers looked like such a sure thing; elite physical skills, ridiculous college production, etc… he was drafted #2 overall but was every bit as bad as Soward.
Mandarich had ridiculous expectations though. He was expected to be a complete animal. He was drafted #2 overall, over barry sanders, Deion Sanders, and Derrick Thomas. all those guys were considered sure things b/c they had all the tools, and were outstanding college players…especially sanders. the expectations were incredibly high by him and in some ways, he doomed himself to fail by building up his reputation by doing stuff like challenging tyson to a fight…it was nearly impossible for him not to be a disappointment with the kind of expectations he set.
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Agreed.
Rogers was a much bigger bust than Soward.
Mike Mamula is another good bust I haven’t seen mentioned..
possibly.
He did have a few good seasons. wadsworth was drafted higher and was worse. It is sometimes hard to clarify between a bust and a disappointment but I would call Mamula a disappointment. Wasn’t bad but not worth the pick.
I think also people consider the fact that in a vacuum, in this NFL, he wouldn’t have been drafted as high. he was a “workout warrior” and those guys are not top 10 picks anymore. He was not this surefire guaranteed player that top 10 picks usually are. the expectations were also not extremely high for his draft position. Because he wasn’t an elite college player, the expectations were honestly not as high as those for guys like Joey Galloway, JJ Stokes, or Derrick Alexander.
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Ben watson was actually a better player than Graham in New England…and he was drafted lower.
You know how you say you ca’t judge a draft class until at least 3 years later…DMac and Gholston only have had 2 years in the league.
Barron…besides penalties he is not a terrible player. Barron right now minus the penalties is better than Mandarich ever was…plus there is all the hype about Mandarich
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Actually, it would be another Lions receiver
Mike Williams. Charles Rogers at least displayed brief flashes of brilliance on the field his first couple seasons, Mike Williams did absolutely NOTHING. I still have no idea how Mel Kiper possibly thought he was the best player in the draft at the time.
I never saw much from Rogers.
Also, it is about expectations. the expectations were much higher for Rogers, because
a) he was a sure thing
b) he was a ridiculously good college player
c) was taken #2 overall
Mike williams did nothing…but you can say the same with Rogers.
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Personally, real BUSTS only happen in the first dozen picks or so.
Those are guys that the team drafting them is counting on to make a major difference.
Other guidelines I use:
1. The earlier the spot drafted, the bigger the bust potential.
2. Major bonus points for guys who get into legal scrapes and get suspended by the league in addition to their lousy play. Yes, Lawrence Philips, I’m talking about you! Reggie Rogers DE of the Lions was another high achiever in this category.
3. Even more points for guys who are constantly out of shape, lazy, and seem to be constantly out of the line up for relatively minor injuries. Too many to name here.
4. The drafting team own a big part of the bust. Some of these guys were drafted in spite of numerous red flags, or poor investigation and evaluation by the team. Your list of busts should name the team, and if possible, the GM or persons most responsible for the pick. May their incompetence be linked forever with the player that they took. ie. Millen with Charles Rogers and Mike Williams; Mike Brown with Andre Smith not yet I guess.
5. The less games played the bigger the bust. Joey Harrington and David Carr at least kicked around the league a bit and provided some decent back up games for a few years as compared to guys like Couch, Akili Smith, Andre Ware. Robert Gallery is at least useful as a Guard, although I still think picking a Guard at # 2 is insane and a waste.
On the above rules I would nominate Reggie Rogers as the biggest DE bust. Check out this link to his stats:
http://www.nfl.com/players/reggierogers/profile?id=ROG505568 The Lions got one sack and eleven games out of this # 7 pick. He also scored high in the legal trouble categroy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Rogers which according to Wiki had already begun when he was a student. Due diligence!
NOTE: He was recently arrested in 2008 for DUI for the fifth time.
Ummmmm
Janikowski is far from a bust. In his 10 year career he is currently the highest scoring player in Raiders history. Last year he was 89.7% on field goals and missed no PAT’s. He also consistenly leads the league in touchbacks(a good advantage to a team) and also has a 78% field goal percentage in his career and is 99% on PAT’s all time. Not sure he was worth a first round pick, but the guy could be around the league 15 years when it is all said and done.
"We didn't lose the game; we just ran out of time." - Vince Lombardi
yea I dunno where dude invented that idea
I’d love to have Bassy kicking for my team, dude’s a damn good FG kicker.
I’d say Mike Nugent from the Jets was a bigger bust. He had 2 decent years to start off his career, but a 2nd rounder should be more then a 2 year player.
by FreeBradshaw on May 7, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No way Janikowski should be considered a bust
Considering the team just gave him the biggest contract for a kicker ever, he’s been a solid player and one of the few picks to pan out for the Raiders over the past decade.
Happy Raider Nation Independance Day: May 6, 2010!!!
biggest bust of all time at kicker…Mike Nugent. I hate to give the label o an OSU grad, but its true. he wasn’t a first rounder, but with kickers, they rarely get drafted that high. I agree, Janikowski is a great player…Nugent has trouble holding a roster spot.
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For Safety, I dunno how the hell Roy Williams is a bust at all.
Maybe he didn’t live up to the hype, but they’d hype a blade of grass to be a tree in Dallas, they don’t have much of a clue there.
If anything, Laron Landry is more of a bust. Michael Huff even more of a bust then him
Laron Landry
When Laron Landry is playing SS he is a stud.It is when he is playing out of position at FS that he struggles. He will excel in Hasletts D next year
Janikowski isn’t that bad – it’s just stupid to take a kicker in the first round.
For WR bust, how about Yatil Green. Taken 15th overall by Miami in 1997. Career stats total: 18 catches for 234 yards and no TDs in 3 years.
He has yet to miss an XP and has one of the strongest legs in the league.
by Brennan McCoy on May 8, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
TE
I’d say a stronger argument could be made for Joe Klopfenstein (taken #46 overall by the Rams, and now clinging to an NFL career buried on the depth chart in Buffalo) or David LaFleur (taken #22 by Dallas, and played only four years — but did have a fluke 7 TD season in his second to last year in the league).
I’d take Watson (and his high wonderlic score) and Graham (and his ability be an extra OT) any day over either of these two guys.
Eddie Moore
Is the biggest LB bust.
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Michael Haddix
In 1983 in a very deep draft the Eagles picked Haddix eighth overall.
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Rickey Dudley,
the Raiders first round pick in 1996, is the biggest TE bust of all-time. Much bigger bust than Watson and Graham.
Also, I don’t think that Brian Bosworth was the biggest LB bust. Mike Junkin, Cleveland’s #1 pick in 1987(fifth or sixth overall that year) was a much bigger bust. The Boz would have had a good career if he didn’t get hurt and have to retire early.
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