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To the Fans: What are your Expectations?

With knowledge of your schedules and seeing some of your roster, draft picks, and free agency pickups, What are your expectations for your favorite team's record? Lately, i've been curious about other fan's outlooks even if they are hopelessly homeristic, I made up that word. If you state the record or record range, a.k.a. 8-8 to 9-7 or even 9-7 Wildcard berth, and maybe a couple reasons why, like: Because we are playing the chiefs 2 times a year or whatever.

 

I guess i'll start with my team: Jacksonville Jaguars

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My optimistic Prediction (Homeristic): 10-6, #1 Wildcard berth

My real Prediction: 9-7, #2 Wildcard berth

Explanation:

   The Jaguars, recently, have not won the divison due to the unknown players,Matt Schaub w/ Andre Johnson, Peyton Manning, Chris Johnson. I find we somehow find ways of getting into the playoffs, except last year (Horrible 0-4 ending). The Jaguars have a lot of young players at core positions. To be specific, Offensive line and Defensive line. The Jaguars are strong at RB, LB, and I expect also DT. However the glaring weaknesses are Secondary, Quarterback, #2 WR, 4-3 LDE. The Jaguars are forced to start alot of rookies because of the exponential roster turnover of last off-season. That is why Tyson Alualu, Eben Britton, Eugene Monroe, and Derek Cox have recently started. I expect a more consistant team, the 2009-10 Jaguars were a rollercoaster of highs and downs. Examples: 0-41 in Seattle, 24-22 in New York vs the Jets. I cannot predict our divisional record because the Jaguars play very oddly against them, whether its beating Indy with 300+ rushing yards or going scoreless against Tennessee. I believe the season will be most affected by the result of the first game vs Denver and need I say Tim Tebow.

 

But that's my opinion, nothing more, nothing less. feel free to criticize, admend, post your own expectation.

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Packers

Homer=16-0, Super Bowl victory
realistic=12-4, first place NFC North

by Yankees10 on Jul 18, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Personally I really like the packers

I think you guys will make a run in the playoffs

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 18, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i remember your draft needs

You needed a OT? I forget who you drafted even though I was at the Draft. Did you address that position?

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 18, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes they did. They got Bulaga (am i wrong?)

They did a good job I believe addressing there needs.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 18, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt. I think it will help greatly however I think rodgers still needs to work on getting rid of the ball quicker.

and even knowing when to though it away. That being said hope the line does its job this year.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 18, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Bulaga will have a steep learning curve?

The Jaguars had two rookie bookends so I guess there might be some.

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 18, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am really not sure. I mean I could guess but that would be all it is.

I think he will catch on fast as he is pretty smart guy if I remember from all the talk. He seems to be a quick learner anyway.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 18, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quick question

How are you possibly a fan of the Green Bay Packers, the New York Yankees, and the Los Angeles Lakers? Might you be a bandwagon enthusiast?

by motown313 on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I'm surprised.

I’ve never met a bandwagon enthusiast that actually just came out and admitted their problem. They usually try to come up with some fake reasoning why they follow the teams they do. The respect points you gained from your honestly cancel out the disrespect points you earned for being a bandwagon enthusiast. You’re OK in my book, buddy.

by motown313 on Jul 23, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

most likely cuz I've called him a bandwagoner an infinite number of times already

He already came up with the “Wagon excuse” already, but he’s OK in my book too. He knows….

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 27, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice this is a good idea.

Actually I had done predictions for each team based on looking at there schedules and going off of that mostly. I was typing it up after getting the results and lost the whole post I was doing and had a good amount of it done (probably half the teams). SO yea I gave up lol. Still have the predictions but not the write-ups.

Ill say for your team I did have you guys record at 10-6 now that I looked at my board of predictions. I don’t think they are that homeristic. I had you and the Texans with the same record and since I used a formula I can see who I had you winning and losing to and you lose one more game in division I believe it was (may have been conference) and they get in the wild care instead. Now obviously I have that difference being one game I could very well see you getting in the playoffs this year and being wrong about the texans winning that one more game.

Mine was maybe two homeristic but yea lol. 15-1. Yea it won’t happen if for no other reason because of Polian but I think we could do it based on our offense only being better this year and D being upgraded as well. We haven’t lost anything. I think it will probably be 13 or 14 wins though if I am not homeristic.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 18, 2010 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Even though I have negative spin on all things Colts haha

Unless horrific injuries gets some starters or particularly Mr. 5-Head, I think the Colts will be as good as they usually are 12-4 I guess would be my thought

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 18, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

see for me being a colts fan and all at this point I start there lol

Maybe thats wrong and probably is. I just see our offense better with getting Gonzo back and D better with freeney healthy again and mainly Bob and our CB healthy again. I really like what I see as we basically from last year just added two proven first rounders if you think about it. as neither exactly played last year.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 18, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can agree with that

Unless something significant has changed, you should expect the same

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 18, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd agree with that.

12-4 seems right for the Colts. Hate saying it, but it’s true.

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by TexansDC on Jul 19, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Giants defense shall return to being average at worst

and world domination will commence. Bow, to the Giants balls or else you will tremble at our throbbing dominance.

Eli Manning (yes, quincyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, the same Eli Manning that adorns your bedroom in all fat head glory wearing lipstick and a mustache) will improve again on his “career” year as the WR’s come into their own. In case you still think we may actually give a rats ass about Plaxico Burress…Hakeem Nicks, Steve Smith and Mario Manningham are thy named selves who will wreak havoc on any insane secondary dare to step forth in front of them,

The 3 headed monster at DE will become healthy and dominate again, as Osi now is at full strength having trained along the foothills of Mt. Vesuvius on nothing but clean air and Viagra. Block him if you dare NFL LT’s. Justin Tuck will overcome the dirty bastard’s cheap shot, and once again discovers his Strahan’ness. Matthias Kiwaunuka will be his usual above average, scrap eating hyena self. And our rookie (once again quincyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy) Jason Pierre Paul, oozing in pure raw athleticism, will show potential of a descendant of Jor-El. He’ll be in the New Giants Stadium for awhile.

You may find this homeristic, but if you ask me to give a care, I have already donated it to a box of orphaned puppies, so tough luck broseph. All comers will have Big Blue nightmares and when you eat your lucky charms or alphabet soup, New York Giants will be what’s spelled out, and you will cry in the corner of your bedroom, as this will be a wasted season for all those not fans of the NY Football Giants.

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by FreeBradshaw on Jul 18, 2010 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Might I say

I like how quick the made up term, homeristic has spread haha

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't believe you made it up.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 19, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

No way the Jags make the playoffs because there are too many stronger teams in the AFC. Indy, Baltimore, New England, New York, Miami, San Diego, and Tennessee all seem much better. I also think Cincy and Houston have stronger teams. Sorry but I don’t see a wild card for Jacksonville.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 19, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I could see it.....

The Jets – It really comes down to how Mark Sanchez progresses and if that team develops chemistry and a pass rush.

Miami – How does Henne develop? Do their RBs make it through the season?

San Diego – Can they find an anchor NT? Does Cromartie not being there hurt them? Can Mathews produce or is that line to blame for last season? Can they handle tougher Oakland and KC since they aren’t 100% gimmies?

Tennessee – Did they fix their secondary? Can they replace VandenBosch? Can VY be the day 1 starter and thrive? Will CJ2K have a let down year as other 2K RBs have had? Can they stay out of trouble with the law?

Houston – Can the OLine keep Schaub clean? Can they run the ball? Can they make a freakin FG?

Lots of questions. Aside from Indy and Baltimore, I wouldn’t put anyone else as a lock for a playoff spot. Jacksonville isn’t bad either. They have a good roster….weren’t garbage last season…..

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by TexansDC on Jul 19, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m actually not sold on the Jets but I think they> the Jags.

Henne was pretty solid for it being his first time starting and I think he should be a good QB for their offense.

I think Morgan should replace Vanden Bosch. VB isn’t even good anymore.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 19, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saying

Somehow, a worse Jaguars team beat the Jets last year

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 20, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

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by TheTealDeal on Jul 19, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way

You can say Tennessee is more talented than Jacksonville now. I also see potential for that Titans locker room to fall apart next year.

San Diego has some problems on defense, and I don’t think their running game is going to produce what many are expecting. They could struggle, especially early, as they always do. If the Jags beat them, we will most likely have a spot over them.

Miami seems pretty solid. I like Henne as a young QB, and I think Marshall helps him grow up immensely. I see them getting a wildcard.

New York is in my mind a near lock for the division barring a meltdown from Sanchez. That defense is stacked. Outstanding secondary, I like David Harris inside, and Jason Taylor should have a pass rushing impact, and their defensive line just gets it done. Their offensive line is great, running game should be straight, and Sanchez growing plus the addition of Holmes is really going to help.

New England could falter, you never know.

Baltimore is stacked like New York. Could falter but not likely at all.

I think Indy is in the stages of the beginning of the end. That Superbowl loss was the beginning of a new era.

Houston could challenge, but I see Cincy disappointing. Bottom line its going to be a close race. Whether we are in it or not depends on our start imo.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 19, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You talk about how all these teams will fall apart, but why can’t that happen to Jacksonville?

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 20, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could
Whether we are in it or not depends on our start imo.

Like I said, we could be in the race, or not.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 20, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Diego still shouldn’t have a bad defense and will have an elite passing attack.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 20, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without Vincent Jackson....

I don’t see an elite passing attack.

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by TexansDC on Jul 20, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see him going anywhere. Yet.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good post TealDeal...

My predictions for Miami:
Optimistic: 12-4
Realistic: 10-6

We have added some key pieces that will help both sides of the ball. Brandon Marshall will open up the offense. Dansby gives us a playmaker on defense. Mike Nolan will make the defense more aggressive. They have some tough games on the schedule, but they have improved enough that I can see them winning 10-12 games this season.

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by The Earl on Jul 19, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I see a possible playoff run for Miami

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 19, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

We do have hard early part of the schedule,but we really did hang with some of the elite teams in the NFL

I.E The gameplan against Indy was perfect, its just that Peyton Manning is a beast and our Safeties and LBs couldnt cover.

And we put up a hell of a fight against the Saints.

I feel we have adressed our major needs, but many players on this team are very young, especially on defense.

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by Patssuck456 on Jul 24, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jaguars

Homeristic: 5-1 in the AFC South (Sweep Houston and Tennessee while trading with Indy)
Realistic: Wildcard birth comes down to the last game in Houston, who ever wins it gets into the Playoffs.

I don’t see how we’ll regress from last year considering we have a young roster. Last years rookies should progress, while this years draft adds more talent. I don’t think Garrard will play worse and will return to a similar ’07 form, especially with what should be improved O-line play.

In our division. Indy will continue to play well, but get no where near 16-0. Houston will continue to be “underachievers.” Tennessee will regress, the team just appears to be falling apart.

by rws591 on Jul 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Panthers.

Homeristic: 12-4

If EVERYTHING goes right, then don’t be surprised.

Realistic: 9-7

We have a lot of young talent, but not rookies. Everyone has had at least some experience. We have some relative unknowns on the roster who will make some noise. That said, our inexperience will hurt us.

Good bye #43. Good luck in Chicago.

by Flowing Willow on Jul 19, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

For the Broncos

I think the best bet is 8 or 9 wins. They have a much easier schedule then last year, their O is in their 2nd season of whats been called the toughest O to learn, and improvement should be expected as the passing game improved as the season went on. The D is also in the 2nd year of learning a tough 3-4, and I like Wink’s better because if Im right we’ll see more 3-3-5 against teams who pass a lot, and it worked pretty well against Indy when it was implemented after the 4th quarter. Also am more confident in the front 7 versus the rush with the new DL.

By no means to I think this team is a contender, but if the team is on the same page then this team could be in the playoffs.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 19, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I meant the 3-3-5 was implemented after the first

and when I said I dont think this team is a contender I meant not a contender for the SB. Jeez SB nation couldnt we get an edit button here?

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the Rams

Homeristic- 6-10

Realistic- 4-12

        With a couple of breaks going the other way we’d have had a couple more wins last year. Schedule is easier but we’re still in talent purgatory for at least this year anyway.

by dbcouver on Jul 20, 2010 3:52 AM EDT reply actions  

??

Is this a joke?

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you even have a 6 win scenario?

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you have to be a homer

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by dbcouver on Jul 23, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

there's 16 games,

and if one loses 10 games…one possibly may win 6, unless there is a tie.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is possible

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 27, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Broncos

My Optimistic/Homeristic Prediction: 12-4, AFC West Champions
My “Real” Prediction: 9-7, #2 Wildcard Berth
My Worst-Case Scenario: 6-10, Third Place in the AFC West

Explanation forthcoming at a later time…

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by ejruiz on Jul 20, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

We’ve heard your explanation enough, no offense.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually maybe you have but others have not therefore there is absolutely nothing wrong with him sharing.

Oh and there wouldn’t be anyway even if he had shared before as this post asks for one.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 20, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA!

You’re probably right, TRSS! By the way, where’s your Browns predictions?

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by ejruiz on Jul 20, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was a Broncos fan, now.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean where’s his Quinn prediction…I’ll submit it for him…0 Snaps

by Drexel Dawg on Aug 5, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patriots

Optimistic: 13-3, first round bye, Super Bowl berth
Realistic: 10-6, #1 Wild Card, eliminated in second round

Sure they’re not the Patriots of the past decade, but they sure as hell aren’t regressing. Call 2009 a mere setback, if you will. In spite of the Logan Mankins fiasco, they have gotten better, re-signing Wilfork and drafting a lot of studs in 2010.

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by R_Adragna on Jul 20, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

That sounds pretty reasonable.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not jumping down your throat

but you admit this isnt the Pats we know and love/hate, but you havent regressed? Care to elaborate because to me that equals regression

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think what I should have said was this:

The Patriots are not the domineering Super Bowl favorites that they were, but they are always in the hunt for the playoffs every single year. And with the players that they have right now (mixture of those who have been there & made it to the top and a hungry crop of young players with the potential to make great things happen), it’s very hard, to me at least, to say they’re regressing at this time. If and when they stop becoming playoff contenders, that’s when I think they’re regressing and stress a dire need for a fix-up.

I hope this fixes it up. I apologize if you’re still befuddled.

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by R_Adragna on Jul 27, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lions

Prediction: 6-10

The Lions are arguably the most improved NFL team this offseason, which bodes well for us, as it means we’re finally headed in the right direction. However, since we were so pitiful before the offseason began, it means we can only really hope to be mediocre at best this year. We’ve got a lot of young talent, but they ain’t gonna develop overnight.

Team strength: Receiving unit
We’ve got one of the best WR’s in the game in Calvin Johnson, and finally added a quality #2 guy in Nate Burleson. Bryant Johson was some kind of terrible last year, but the guy’s had a solid career and I don’t expect him to play so shitty this season. Add to that a (hopefully) improving Derrick Williams, our third round pick last season, and the addition of Tony Scheffler to pair along with Brandon Pettegrew in two TE sets, and you have a quality group.

Team weakness: Secondary
Quite frankly, there are still a number of weaknesses on the team, but the secondary is the most glaring. We have a budding star in FS Louis Delmas, but besides that we’ve got essentially nothing but rejects from other teams. Our projected No. 1 CB, Chris Houston, wasn’t good enough to play Nickel for the Falcons, CB Dre Bly was deemed washed up by the rest of the league, and CB Jonathan Wade wasn’t even good enough to make the roster of the almighty RAMS. Add to that the fact that our current projected starter at SS is C.C. Brown, who’s claim to fame is starting for the Texans during the Carr years, and you can see why this is the worst secondary in the NFL.

Conclusion: If Stafford has a breakout season, and Jahvid Best plays up to expectations, the Lions could have a really good offense. The Defensive line actually looks strong, but the rest of our D is shaky at best. We should (hopefully) be able to put a lot of points on the board, but our Secondary is so atrocious that every QB who plays against us is going to look like Peyton Manning.

The season hasn’t even started yet, and I’m already saying “there’s always next year…”

by motown313 on Jul 21, 2010 4:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Curious about the Lions O-Line

I like the skill position upgrades. Love the D-Line upgrades . Questions still abound about protecting Stafford. If you do that then 6-10 is very realistic. Fill me in on your thoughts.

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by lifelongvike on Jul 21, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

The addition of LG Rob Sims will be a TREMENDOUS help to the O-line as a whole. Jeff Backus and Dom Raiola have caught a lot of shit from non-Detroiters, but the whole reason they haven’t performed the way they should is that they have had a non-stop revolving door at LG, highlighted recently by all-shitty first teamer Manny Ramirez. Backus and Dom have had to constantly try to compensate for bastards like Ramirez, which makes their job a helluva lot tougher. Sims was rated as the seventh best G in the league last season by PFF, so it would appear that we finally have the quality LG we’ve been looking for forever.

Stephen Peterman is a solid, underrated RG, so the only real question mark is at RT, where we have Gosder “McBusty” Cherilus. The guy has been extremely underwhelming considering his talent, and if he has another poor season I completely expect us to replace him at season’s end. We drafted T Jason Fox in the fourth round this year out of Miami, and though he likely won’t be able to contribute this year, he hopefully will be ready to take the reins from Gos at the end of the season if he continues to choke on dicks.

So overall we have a mediocre, but not bad, Offensive Line. Sims should give us a huge boost and finally allow Backus and Dom to actually focus on their own assignments.

by motown313 on Jul 21, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just pointing this out, but the writer here doesn’t like cursing on this site.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

I dont either which is why I love a lot of these SB nation sites, including my home MHR. Its just annoying and when u say it to prove a point it makes you and your point look stupid.

I’ll even go as far as to say bleeping stuff out (ie:&%#^!!!!!!) is even more annoying. Plus, not everyone on here is an adult I’ll wager so lets keep it family friendly

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 21, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m no adult but I still use those words. haha

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I’m glad the guys at Pride of Detroit don’t have a stick up their @*% like you do.

Before you get all annoyed, realize that I’m joking. Just poking fun, buddy.

by motown313 on Jul 21, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I realize

but its still immature and makes u sound stupid

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 22, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

joking or not be careful there.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 27, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and like TRSS said try not to cuss as it is not necessary.

a slip here and there is one thing but just keep an I on that.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 27, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you guys still have KO SIMPSON?

He’s worth millions, you know

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by UZ on Jul 21, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I AM WORTH MILLIONS!

“Wasted” doesn’t properly describe the way he must have been feeling that night. Yeah, we still got Ko, who’s competing with C.C. Brown for the Safety spot alongside Delmas, though it seems doubtful he’ll beat out Brown for the job. He sure as hell ain’t making millions now.

by motown313 on Jul 21, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sold on Stafford, your O-line, or your DE’s. Just sayin

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree on Stafford

Im tired of people talking about any of the 1st round QBs from 09 like theyve proven something, they’ve proven nothing. None of them had anywhere near a decent TD:INT ratio, and the only one who did have a winning record had absolutely nothing to do with that record.

Now, dont get me wrong, I think they all have potential, but people are making something out of quite terrible years, even if their rookies

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly like Freeman the best. He shows more potential and looked better last year.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

Look at how that team did without him. Leftwhich couldnt buy a win yet this kid comes in and wins a respectable 3 games. Its quite possible if they didnt start Freeman at all they might not have won a game

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 23, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Leftwich's fault

At all. The three games he started were against Dallas, the Giants and Buffalo. He almost threw for 300 yards and 3 TDs, yet they lost. Dallas and New York were levels above Tampa Bay last year, so they didn’t have a chance there.

Freeman beat Green Bay, which was nice, but he didn’t complete 50 percent of his passes, though he threw for three TDs. His other wins were against the Seahawks, who were horrible, and against a resting Saints team.

Don’t get me wrong, I really like Josh Freeman. Last year he was my favorite high round QB coming out. I just hate how wherever Byron has been he has taken loads of unfair blame.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 23, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not one game did he win

and as you said, a rookie QB starts against GB and doesnt even complete half his passes and wins? To me that just proves how bad Byron is.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 23, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That

Went right over your head. Byron did well in all of his games, yet the team lost. Freeman does bad, but the team wins, later in the year. Byron didn’t do anything to lose, and Freeman didn’t do too much to win.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 24, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, I looked at his stats and wouldnt say they are really good

Dalls he had one Td and a good amount of yards, and against Buffalo he did throw 3 Td’s but he also threw 2 picks, not what you want out of your vet QB. Take into account to how many attempts he had in those games and his stats are even less impressive. Yes I agree he played on a terrible team but its not like he was a one man show, he wasnt good at all, I’d say he was average.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 24, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Word

Thats all I’m saying, he played average. On a team that doesn’t completely suck, a QB playing average would not cause him to be benched. Morris made a decision to bench Leftwich thinking he could salvage the season, a knee jerk reaction made by a very young head coach.

Byron was without a doubt average, but he didn’t hurt the Bucs those first three weeks. We agree

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 25, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would say below average

but by know means should he inspire confidence in the first 4 games with the Steelers

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 25, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Allow me to quote myself:
If Stafford has a breakout season

Emphasis on IF. Obviously I wouldn’t have included that if I myself was sold on him.

I also don’t understand how people expect a 21 year old to step in from day one and look like Peyton Manning. Speaking of Peyton, you may remember that he threw more INT’s then TD’s his rookie season as well.

by motown313 on Jul 21, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Allow me to explain SB nation to you

if you press the option “up” under my comment, you’ll see it doesnt refer to you. I was responding to TRSS’s comment.

I realize about Peyton Manning trust me every team who’s rookie QB under performs points to him. Just like I can say maybe Jarvis Moss can still have a breakout season because James Harrison didnt have his till his late 20’s, but Im not. I take the stats before me and what I saw and make my anlaysis. Did I say Stafford or the others were a bust? No I was just speaking about all experts and fans who are banking on them improving, they could but its far from garunteed.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 22, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok..ok lets calm down.

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 27, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see it

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 27, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vikings

Vikings return all starters. The draft solidified the RB position with Toby Gerhart.
Improved the secondary with Chris Cook at CB. Free agency saw the addition of a long kick-off specialist. I expect 2 more touchbacks per game.

Two questions exist.
1) offensive line. Injury plagued last year along with two new starters. If the veterans stay healthy and the new guys play well with the veterans then it is hard to see many losses on the schedule.
2) Secondary. The extent of Injuries to Griffen and Winfield are still unknown. Secondary will probably improve in the 2nd half of the year for this reason. Offense will carry the team.

 I see two division losses ( Green Bay and Chicago). I forecast 3 non-division losses for a 12-4 record and the division crown.

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by lifelongvike on Jul 21, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Buffalo: 5-11, 8-10th spot in the draft

This last place in the NFL business that the media has been selling since the off-season began is just simple BS.

The team has mediocrity at QB, but they don’t have JamarcASS Russell or someone who will actively lose you games.
They have an incredibly solid interior line (Wood, Hangartner, Levitre), with only one hole at LT that they’re plugging young guys into hoping for luck. (doubt it’ll work, myself. the rest of the line is much more solid than they’re given credit for though.)
They’ll have three of the best RB’s in the game assuming Spiller lives up to even half his potential.
They’re still returning one of the best secondaries in football, a unit that racks up interceptions like nobodies business.

Trust me, they won’t be winning more than 6 or 7 games next season, but this is NOT the worst team in the league. They only lack a better QB, (I have to re-iterate, Trent Edwards isn’t a bad QB but a mediocre one. Mediocre QB’s can win you a few games in a season, but rarely lose games on their own) a proven Left Tackle, and a bit more experience and help on the front seven of the defense. Not nearly enough holes for 1-15 and the first pick in the draft.

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by UZ on Jul 21, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Couple questions

1. What are your thoughts on drafting Spiller? He’s a beast, of course, but it seems like you guys already had quality backs on your roster.

2. Why did you guys take Troup in the second? I gotta admit I was scratching my head about this pick, it seems like if you guys wanted your NT you would’ve taken Cody, though quite frankly I think it would have made more sense to draft a OT like Charles Brown, Vlad Ducasse, etc.

by motown313 on Jul 21, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, you don’t have mediocraty at QB. You have a pile of crap.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by Patssuck456 on Jul 24, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your RBs are best in the game? Lynch and Jackson are solid and Spiller hasn’t proven anything.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lack of OL, DL, and QB are the reasons people think your team is the worst

and if you look at every team that drafts in the top 5, they have the same problems as well. Say what you want about your interior OL but its the OT’s who are the most important, and you lack heavily there, to heavy for your “incredibly solid” interior OL to handle. And I completely disagree on your QB assesment, they are not mediocre, they are atrocious.

For the record, I dont think your the worst, but I think your divison will seriously kill you and youll be lucky if you dont pick first overall.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 21, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't seen Steeler's, so:

Best case scenario: 16-0, Super Bowl win
Worst case scenario: 8-8
Realistic scenario: 10-6, 2nd in division, playoff WC

by TomlinsPuffyJacket on Jul 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont

See the Steelers going 16-0, even in the brightest of best case scenarios.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 21, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call that the Homeristic prediction

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Jul 21, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even

Homeristic predictions have to have some little sliver of being possible. Saying the Steelers can go 16-0 is just crazy. Thats like saying the Jags are going 16-0. Love the Jags, but its just not happening.

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 23, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha I know you know that that is beyond Homeristic

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by TheAngelsColts on Jul 27, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my defense

I meant the 16-0 as best case because, technically, thats as good as they (or anyone really) can do. If I was a Ram’s or Lion’s fan, I’d still say that, although I don’t think there’s any way in hell that will happen for any team this year. If I was to say a realistic best case for us, maybe 13-3.

For my realistic prediction, I refer you to this breakdown:
How many games will Steeler’s win in 2010

Of course, anything can happen and change your team’s fortunes overnight, but I’m just trying to have some fun and keep sane during the offseason

by TomlinsPuffyJacket on Jul 22, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s what I got out of that article;

“I am a Steelers homer!”

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 22, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Bestjagfan on Jul 23, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leftwich sucks, and you were an 8-8 team last year. So…

It is crazy to call 8 and 8 WORST CASE.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 21, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, by my logic above, I should call worst case 0-16.

And I didn’t use last year’s standings at all, I compared us to all of the teams we’ll play, strengths v. weaknesses, etc., and I feel confident that we’ll do no worse than 8-8.

Also, just a hunch, but I see Dixon as the guy while Ben’s out.

by TomlinsPuffyJacket on Jul 22, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be surprised if the Steelers won 8 games

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 22, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

If they win a game with Leftwhich, they’ll be lucky (he didnt have one win last year as a starter). Then they get Cleveland after a bye and go on a grueling road trip in which they could drop all 3. This Steeler team could quite honestly limp out the starting gate at about 2-6, and thats giving them a win over a Cleveland team that beat them last year.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 23, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a big diffirence between playing for Tampa

compared to playing for the Steelers. Like the best OLB tandem in the NFL anchoring a top ten D. The Bucs arn’t any where near as talented or experienced as the Steelers. If Leftwich can give us some Dilfer like performances. we’ll be fine.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Jul 25, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, an 8-8 team w/o there QB will be fine.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 25, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

This isnt the 08 team were talking about here. You dismissed your best WR and now have to rely on an aging WR who I doubt can handle being the #1, and a 2nd year player who is probably better in the slot. Limas Sweed wouldve helped here but he’s gone for the year. That with Leftwich as your QB I really doubt you win a game other than TB. After that, as I said you go on the road after Cleveland and face ATL, MIA, and NO all on the road, with Roethlisberger still getting into midseason form. And your not playing with the same D in 08 either. Sure, You have Troy, but the rest of your D has been showing their age.

Your gonna start off slow, and the Steelers will really have to lean on their unproven run game if they want to bounce back. Really, I see little reason for optimism for your team especially starting your schedule off the way it does, and the chances of playoffs are very slim considering you have Balty and Cincy in your division. I think their is a better chance of the Steelers drafting top 10 than there is of them making the playoffs.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 25, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great explanation.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 25, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friendly Bet to settle the argument?

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Jul 26, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lets do it.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 26, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

count me in to

I got one over on Bleacher report as well

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 26, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright

I’ll bet you the Steelers win more than 8 games. If I’m correct you will put in your signatures “Don’t doubt the Pittsburgh Steelers”. The more wins the higher the praise entered into the sigs.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Aug 6, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Aug 6, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that was the worst case prediciton for your team

not so confident in the prediction? BTW I realize its not yours but ur comments here make it seem like you agree.

by DBroncs1414 on Aug 6, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have a clue what our final record will be

I am supremely confident it will be better than 8-8.
And I stick by my bet on a count of this

I would be surprised if the Steelers won 8 games

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 6, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can do a second one with you since you didn't say that.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 6, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make it 9

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by TheRealSlimShady on Aug 7, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

done

That work for you bronco?

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 8, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

RSS

you and I will do 9 wins or better. Broncs you and I will do playoffs

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

by Steel in FL on Aug 11, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

sounds good

just to make sure, what exactly are we wagering on this bet

by DBroncs1414 on Aug 11, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Realistic?

I mean, are you factoring in the schedule or do you just think your team should be a 10 win team? I honestly think your going into the bye week 1-3 even if you had Big Ben, then you got Cleveland which you shouldnt sleep on, remember what happened last time, then you go on a grueling road trip in which you could lose all three games. I wouldnt be surprised by that schedule you start the season 2-6. The rest of the schedule aint that tough (but its far from a cake walk)but its hard to recover and get a 10-6 season with a WC berth after that.

BTW I would like to say Im not picking on you, Im asking did you factor in the schedule in your prediction?

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 22, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So which part of Atlanta's vaunted D is going to give us trouble?

Or the Bucs? Balimore and Tenn are question marks. You really thing that adding Delhome is going to make Cleveland that much better?

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Jul 25, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think adding Delhomme makes them worse. The guy had a top 3 RB tandem in the league, a very good O-Line and better WR than they have in Cleveland…..and he was still trash. I cannot see him improving with what they have in Cleveland.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

1. Atlanta had a solid team last year (about the same as yours) and added Dunta and Weatherspoon to their D. Without Ben, I don’t see you all being able to win, especially because I think matt Ryan will have a big year.

2. Baltimore is better.

3. Tennessee is arguably better even if you do have Ben.

4. Cleveland should be a win buut they beat you last game while you had your QB.

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 25, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

TRSS did a lto of responding for me, but I'll answer your questions you asked me

I fail to see where I said Atlanta’s D will own you, but there’s a good chance the Falcon’s O will do that.

I said I give you the Bucs, but it won’t be handed to you. They are an improved team where as the same cannot be said of yours. Plus they gave a bunch of good teams a run for their money, and you play them with Leftwich, and his long motion with a weak OL in pass pro. That right there is danger. I’d think going with Dixon would be better as he can move around in the pocket and his motion is quicker.

Balty’s and Tenn’s question marks? I would contend your team has many times more than their’s. Balty goes into the season with a good WR next to Mason, and they have that run game and D if that doesnt work out as hoped. Tenn has a 2000 yard rusher, now content, and a VY who has made great strides last season and this offseason. Their D could be a weak point but not to the point where its in the bottom 10 of the league

Dont think Delhomme makes the Browns better, but I dont think Roethlisberger in his first game back while everyone else is in 4th game form is good for your odds (and btw I will say him coming back in 4 games is not guarunteed).

I will admit the Steelers are one of the best orginizations in football, but I will also admit they have fallen on hard times to no fault of their own. I think the Steelers in the long run will be fine but they come into this season in trouble and it will take a lot of luck for this season to end up as you predict

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 25, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Running have no luck against our D ruling out Turner

And outside of White and Gonzo the Great who do they have? The 05 D can slow that team down.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Jul 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your running D isn’t what it used to be. Check out the age of your line.

And how can you overlook Matt Ryan?

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by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 26, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you honestly think this Falcons O is a pushover

Then I dont know what to say. And if you still think you have that 08 D, I dont know what to say either.

And who do they have outside of White and Gonzo? How about this for a question: Who do you have to cover them?

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 26, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW they have Harry Douglas(s ?) back and he is an underrated slot receiver.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 26, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see him come back from the injury okay

but he wan’t exactly scary before it.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Jul 30, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ravens Homer record: 14-2
Ravens practical record: 12-4 first place AFC North.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

And a Superbowl victory.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

with so few losses

any guesses as to who those may be to?

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 25, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

At 12-4 I will say Cinci, NE, Pitt, ATL

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

NE, really?

Despite what anyone thinks (ie: in BB we trust) that team is regressing slightly, and you gave them a major whoopin at their house when it counted most. I can see the others but I have trouble seeing NE beating you guys. I agree with your record though, I see you between 11-13 wins

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 25, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I definitely think that we can still demolish NE, but I will never count Brady out. They might have lost that fire power they had in 2007, but I still think they are the best team in the division. They have had 2 very good drafts in the last 2 years also.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ravens go 8-8

and bow to the Cincy Bungholes

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 25, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, the Giants having no playoff hopes at all is really making you a Negative Nancy.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 25, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no doubt.

I mean, since everyone believes ESPN and all, the Giants don’t even exist in the NFC. I’m rooting for a team that doesn’t even play..at all!

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 26, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do you have against the Ravens? That Superbowl was 10 years ago, time to move on.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 26, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dude that whole Division can't release a grudge

The Cowboys still whine about how we stole The SuperBowl from them in the 70’s

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
We just dumped a problem WR just so we could draft another?

by Steel in FL on Jul 26, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

...or too little...

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing at all against the Ravens.

I just enjoy shooting down your homerism….

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 26, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not a homer, I’m a realist.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 27, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the G-men

I think the problem with them is everyone in the division either really improved or stayed better than the G-men. If the Giants were in any other division in the NFC, I think everyone would like them more, but I have trouble seeing the Giants go to the playoffs in that division

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 26, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

really....

who..might be these teams that improved? Unless teh NFC East expanded, I don;t see who really improved and leaves the Giants behind….

The Eagles stayed the same basically…when you factor in getting healthy, but they lost the franchise QB. Kolb is gonna be inconsistent his first year. Eagles fans would love for him to be Aaron Rodgers of course, and they probably believe he is already.

The Cowpokes stayed the same unless you count a rookie taking them over the top..so they really stayed the same. The Giants beat them twice BTW despite being as decimated by injury. Just cuz ESPN is penciling them in for the SB, doesn’t mean they’re going there.

The Redskins should be better…maybe. Shanny and McNabb got something to prove.

There’s no one in that division the Giants can’t beat, and with better injury luck they make the playoffs no problem. The defense is healthy, has an infusion of talent. Keith Bulluck is basically like getting a faster Antonio Pierce back (even with his injury and age, he’s still 2x the athlete Pierce was).

The young WR another year in the league. The RB’s healthy…yea…pretty sure the Giants are happy where they’re at.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 26, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jacobs has a good year then the Giants should be the 2nd best team in the NFC East.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 26, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who's the first?

There’s only one Giants in the NFC East.

If Jacobs is normal, the Giants are unstoppable on offense.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 26, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s still the Cowboys as of now.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 27, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to argue

they won the division last year and played a great game vs. Minny

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mentioned the O, and although Im not a fan of Eli, I think they'll be good

but the problem I have is your D. Bulluck is going to be a terrible Mike coming back from an injury and being as small as he is. Your DL drastically underperformed, and that might have been because of injury so we will have to see. And your secondary was exposed for what they really are, nothing. Rolle will help but he is a classic case of a player being hyped up through the FA process. He is not as good as being advertised. Your D was extremely atrocious and if you think Bulluck and JPP patch up that 400 point allowing D than you are a homer. Put that on top of the division you play, and this could be a long season.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what teh media consensus is...and well...its just a quick glance over what

happened last year, and that’s it. No in depth as to who, why or what.

Bulluck is gonna be terrible cuz he’s small?? You must not know who Antonio Pierce was. Bulluck weighs 5lbs less then Pierce, and since Pierce was fat…it doesn’t matter. Also due to fatness, Bulluck would be faster then Pierce in his prime with one leg amputated, let alone one leg injury (which everyone who counts says is basically 90% healed). And he does all that other good stuff (heart, smarts, playmaking) as good as Pierce ever did. So…yea, we were pretty good with Pierce, and Bulluck is basically a faster Pierce, even at his age. So…yea…terrible, right.

Rolle is as good as CC Brown (no your words, but what you’re inferring)? That’s why the secondary was terrible. The safeties were incompetent. Deon Grant is another veteran who knows what he’s doing. If you think Rolle and Grant aren’t improvements…well, you probably think Kyle Orton is a good QB and you’re not gonna miss Brandon Marshall……

JPP? JPP doesn’t have to play a down for them to improve.

They removed the incompetent DC as well, who had the fire of an ice cube. They’re all healthy now (even Osi, despite this BS with his hip)..that was also a big reason. Tuck is their best player, and was reduced to half a man since Week 2.

The only way this season will be “long” is if they go on a long playoff run. Especially since Goodell isn’t implementing the 18 game season just yet.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re all healthy now

I never like when anyone used this as a reason why their team can improve, because injuries WILL happen again next year.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 27, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey...I figure that was the status quo here....

just regurgitate re-hashed BS and try and pawn it off as your own?

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yes of course

Am I being tried for plagiarism? What exactly did I regurgitate and try to say it was my own? Just admit your frustrated because someone doesnt agree with you.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

frustrated?

no..not at all..lol.

You’re regurgitating everything John Clayton said about the Giants BTW.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats funny

I dont read his stuff so quite a coincidence. But again, another great assumption.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

undoubtedly

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

JKin

I do read John Clayton, makes my blood boil. But I honestly skim through his mailbags to see if he wrote anything on the AFC West and other than that dont read him. I dont know why though he just says the Broncos sucks and everyone in the division is improving. I guess I feel your pain and Im sorry to have even made you think of him

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 27, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny how you spun it to my team

meanwhile in this thread were talking about yours. I guess its a desperate man’s last defense lol! If you wanna talk about my Broncos, reply to either mine or EJRuiz’s predictions. And I realize this started as a Ravens one but its clear its about the Giants now.

Bulluck is old, coming off a huge injury that occured late in the year, and has been called a tall lanky LB, thats what I meant by small. He’s not exactly a run stuffer you expect from your Mike LB. He’s not a guy who should be filling in the A Gaps. Everyone who counts says he’s basically healed? Is that why there were so many teams proclaiming Bulluck’s career should be over? And I fail to see where I said Pierce was any good anymore, I just said Bulluck is sure as hell not a starting Mike. Seriously no one came out saying Bulluck should be signed before he signed with the Giants and now that he is signed a Giants fan is here to defend him? Please leave your homerism at the door this is a conversation for realists.

You still fail to answer how your team’s D is improved. I’ll give you Sheridan wasn’t a good DC, but I don’t see how your team changed enough to stop allowing a gross 26.7 pts per game! Fewell did decent in Buffalo, coaching a D 31st in his 1st year, 14th in his second, and then 19th in his last. Nothing here shouts out at me that he is going to make your D good again. You defend your secondary and I applaud you for it, but honestly once the pressure stopped coming at QB’s at an amazing rate this secondary looked like crap. Sure a rush is a secondaries best friend but a halfway decent secondary wouldnt look as bad as they did.

So, how exactly is your D not going to allow 26.7 pts a game again this year? An average until proven otherwise DC and an aging LB who no one else wanted? Do you honestly hear your own homerism?

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...I suppose anything I say will be said I'm a homer.

But stay asleep on the Giants. Everyone else is.

WHY? I said it. Competent DC, the D was stagnant and predictable and played with no heart. Big problem was leadership last year, as in they had none. Rolle, Grant, Bulluck…that’s 3 vets. You think that doesn’t matter..well, I hate to bring your team into it again, but you must’ve missed the Broncos adding Brian Dawkins last year. Leadership adds a lot.

The Giants D has to be average. They went 8-8 depsite a horrific defense. If the D is average, they go 10-6 no problem last year.

But that’s just being a homer. So write off the Giants. Go head. Please, its better that way.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes but Dawkins brought great plays along with leadership

and I dont see Bulluck doing that. As I said I dont think Rolle is bad but I think the FA process hyped him up a bit as it tends to do. He’s good but he is strictly a cover Safety and not a top one at that. He sure as hell didnt deserve the richest Safety contract in NFL history.

And dont play the write us off card. You think anyone even gave the Broncos kudos last year? I remember John Clayton predicted us 3-13 and said he had trouble finding one win but bottom feeders always have a way of stealing a game or 2. Meanwhile we go 8-8 and we are hearing the same BS again this year.

And BTW, I called you homer because of your Bulluck analysis. No one I’ve heard thinks he will make a positive impact other than you. He’s old and is coming off a horrific injury (which occurred late last season, and ACL’s tend to take at least a full year or two to be fully repaired, ask Shawne Merriman) which u refuse to admit. Sure, he’s a great leader but a leader has gotta make plays too, and I just dont see him doing that.

Oh man do I love your assumptions, there seems to be one on every comment unless its your trademark one liners. Because I dont like the Bulluck signing means I don’t like teams signing aging players. Wow you know me too well…. If you read what I said again, you will see age was only one factor, injury and not being a true Mike LB were also factors, ones that aren’t very minor. You honestly think if the Titans felt he could provide anything to their team they would bring him back? He’s a hero there and at the least could provide depth and as you keep pointing out leadership. Plenty of reports from NFL evaluators said they felt Bulluck was no longer good enough to play in the NFL, let alone start at Mike.

But of course, since I dont agree with you I’m a hater, which one of your one liners should I use?:

that’s cute.

or

that’s nice

??

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not the only one who thinks Bulluck will be good with the Giants.

maybe the only one here and now, but not even close to the only one. Many see it as a low risk, high reward signing, based soley on whether he’s healthy or not, which again…everyone who counts says the knee is fine.

The sad thing is most people don’t know who Keith Bulluck is, that’s why they write it off.

Like hmmm….say……Bulluck played MLB on third downs in Tennessee..and actually was quoted as saying he likes to play MLB cuz he’s not lined up on the weak side? Defenses can’t run away from you when your in the middle. He prefers to run downhill and take on the OG. Why would he prefer it if he coundn’t do it?

 Bulluck has rarely been injured in his career. To call the injury “horrific”, is simply overplaying it. The dude’s running around almost like it never happened. He got signed late, cuz he was still rehabbing until mid-July.

You don’t have to agree with me. But you obviously hate the Giants cuz your looking at the negatives of last season and translating them to this year, when they’ve ton a whole lot to improve the defense already.

Rolle doesn’t deserve that contract, but every other NFL safety wasnt’ a FA. He was the best available. The contract was matched by Arizona, but he chose to come to NY. So he was gettign that contract no matter what.

Safety was a big problem last year. The CB’s had no idea where they’re help was, ever. Now they have 2 veterans who actually have a clue about that, and that’s not even including Kenny Phillips who’s gonna be fine.

SO yea, you’re a hater.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

First off you keep mentioning everyone who counts

but I have yet to hear a report on that he is fully healthy and will be a great MLB. If you have a link I’d love to read it. And yes, I know who Keith Bulluck is. His hometown of Spring Valley is probably 15 minutes from my house and I know people from around the area. People recount his old HS days and I vaguely remember him at Cuse with McNabb. Not to mention he is a model of consistency in the pros. I’m not hating on him, I’m just pointing out that he as a Mike LB is not a good idea and him coming back from a knee injury doesnt bode well either. He’s got an uphill battle if he wants to make a positive impact on your team.

Again, another spot on assumption: I am a Giants hater. Didnt I clearly say above I knew you’d call me a hater because I disagree with you? I’m not hating. I’m just saying that the D is not improved enough and the team plays in the NFC East. I said I like the O, and I do whether or not Jacobs bounces back. I also said I’d like them in anyother division but with that D in that division I dont like the G-men’s season outlook right now. But your right, Im a hater, I just wish everyone would agree with you so no one would be a hater.

SO yea, you’re ignorant.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah.....ignorant.

must’ve struck a chord. Good evening, have fun.

Go New York Go!

by FreeBradshaw on Jul 27, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

O my bad

I thought I struck your chord by disagreeing with you? Weird for a homer aint it? Well, enjoy Keith Bulluck being your answer to your D, I know Kolb, McNabb and Romo will

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you would like to note,

You started with

SO yea, you’re a hater.

And I respond

SO yea, you’re ignorant.

So please explain, are you the only one allowed to put up immature comments? And once your chord gets struck, you call it quits? Ahh… Your invincible G-men would have found a way to pull out a win on a harmless online debate you so desperately seek.

And before I go, one last point. When you couldnt find a way to respond to one of my points against your D you tried to bring up my Broncos to spite me, yet please remind me how did that game go against our teams? Oh, no I shouldn’t bring up your losses because then I’ll be a hater. Silly me for looking at past events to help predict the future, what on Earth was I thinking?

I hope next time we can both act like were not 12 year olds in a text fight.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the NFC East is as good as everyone acts like. I mean, any of the teams could be good but there are a lot of questions there.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 27, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me, I live in the tri-state area so I hear about the NFC East every year being the best

and every year I say it’ll take a step back it does the exact opposite. I hope it does because I hate the hype the local media here and ESPN puts on it and the fans around here who regurgitate it.

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just sayin, there are plenty of tri-state areas. I don’t know which one you are refering to.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 27, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bad

NJ-CT-NY is the one I’m referring to. Its really a bunch of Ginats fans who when they do well say “wow we did that in the NFC East” and when they dont do well they say “Oh well if we didnt play in the NFC East” You get a lot of the same with Yankee fans and the AL East, gets pretty repetitive and annoying

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just sayin, the AL East is definitely the toughest divison in baseball but that is getting off topic.

"Young men, I have no doubt that you're gonna do well today. But I have 1 favor to ask of you... SAVE JIMMY JOHNSON'S ASS FOR ME!" Lou Holtz

by TheRealSlimShady on Jul 28, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the Redskins

Super Homer prediction 9-7
Realistic prediction 6-10
I think that the Redskins are a better team with a much better coach & I am really hoping to be wrong but I think they might be in the bottom third again this year. They have a brutal schedule, a new defense ( the 3-4 ) & still questions on their O-line, WRs, RBs & no real FS.

by ENsDad27 on Jul 27, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

The one thing I really like

is Shanny and McNabb together. McNabb has played with terrible WR’s and OL’s and still has had success. Shanny has had former cell phone sellers run for great seasons (Tatum Bell)

I dont agree with dismantling the 13th ranked D that suffered in the rankings because of a terrible O. the 3-4 might really hurt them, as I dont think they have the right personnel for it outside of Orakpo.

I agree with your assesment though. In any other division I’d say 7-9 leaning 8-8, but 6-10 seems like a good bet

by DBroncs1414 on Jul 27, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carolina Panthers

Homer: 10-6
Realistic: 9-7

Questionable defensive line, linebacker, and WR corps.

by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Jul 30, 2010 4:32 AM EDT reply actions  

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