2011 Senior Bowl open thread
by Dan Kadar on Jan 29, 2011 3:52 PM EST
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PrintAfter a week of highly publicized practice sessions, the Senior Bowl game kicks off today on NFL Network. Use this as your open thread. The game starts at 4 p.m.
What to watch for:
- Jake Locker's accuracy, especially when he's not mobile
- Which other QB steps up (My guess: Greg McElroy)
- Von Miller's all-around game and if he can hold up against the run
- Will Cameron Jordan translate a great week of practice to game day?
- Ditto for Leonard Hankerson
- The breakthrough offensive tackle with Gabe Carimi out today
- Does Titus Young live up to his own hype?
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What do you guys think of Colin K?
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I like him alot
I think he is the most underated QB this draft
everyone talks about Locker Mallett Gabbert
I like this kid over all of them
by Archie Barberio on Jan 29, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not to big on running QBs but he looks talented.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's a pitcher
And still trying to perfect his throwing motion. He isn’t an intellectual type but he can play as well as anyone from the BCS schools
Status: Boss
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Big fan of him
has a great bullet pass and fits well in the coryell I think.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
4-3 I believe
but I see him being a better 3-4 DE than say clayborn.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
he's played DE and DT for Iowa
but started the last two at DT. 3-4 DE or 4-3 3-tech.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"In science, 'fact' can only mean 'confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent.' "- Stephen Jay Gould
by shake n bake on Jan 29, 2011 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Jake Locker
Here we go. Plenty of receiving and blocking talent for him now.
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Interesting
That Castonzo is playing LG today. I wonder if that’s out of necessity only.
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Nice play
by Greg Jones there. I like his instincts a lot.
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Hankerson looking pretty good.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I feel bad for the North O..
They have the worst play caller in the NFL as their OC…
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
Who's calling it?
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bob Bratkowski
Bengals OC..
Most bengal’s fans can tell you what the next play will be, he’s that predictable.
Only Brat does an end around to start the game than do a screen for a 3rd and long.
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Only?
You
Must not know who Mike Mularkey is.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I probably shouldn't complain
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm dissapointed with the rules.
There’s a lot of man-press in the NFL, how does this get the CBs ready for the transition.
I think Hankerson would make more spectacular catches in man-press and at the same time the CBs will have more opportunity to shine.
Of all the rules, that’s the stupidest one. I can understand no 3-4 or heavy blitzes.
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Who comes up with this stupidity?
Don’t they realize that with off-cover the whole game that the CBs and DLs won’t have much opportunity to show what they really can do in a game?
I would prefer a one-man blitz.
This way, it can be 5 rushers vs 5 OLs, sometimes.
Acho kills Solder there. Pointed out Solder’s issue playing to the inside.
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I don't have NFL Network at school...
…any highlights so far?
Von Miller
Solder
Castonzo
Sherrod
Carimi
Hankerson
Running Backs
Jordan
MIller – Has looked good in two series. Playing linebacker
Solder – See just above
Castonzo – Playing LG, haven’t noticed anything
Carimi – not playing
Hankerson – Decent. Catches with his pads except on the TD catch.
Running backs – Locke looking good. Too early for anyone else.
Jordan – Hasn’t done anything.
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Ugh
Does DeAndre McDaniel have to act like a dick after that hit?
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well it could be worse
he could have pushed his gf down the stairs again
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Jan 29, 2011 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I think McDaniel
will be the first safety to go, even if he is a dick.
by cwbys on Jan 29, 2011 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As I've been saying, no way Solder is first rounder
Cause stuff like that happens where he gets beaten by a quicker faster guy
I always felt that but was his weakness
But wouldn’t be shocked if he goes late 1st
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He's got Bruce Campbell written all over him.
ENORMOUS body and athletic, but lacks any and all technique and is a project!
Haha, Bruce Campbell.
I haven’t thought about that guy even once since the last draft.
by Fearless Frog on Jan 29, 2011 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
The Raiders haven’t either.
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by Dan Kadar on Jan 29, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want to see
if Hankerson can get separation off press-cover not off-cover.
I read that Vince Young
can get separation. I think he goes before Hankerson.
Yeah he got separation all right.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Been surprisingly impressed by Stocker's blocking
But not his ability to get separation. Hasn’t been able to get away from Casey Matthews.
Jake Locker looks lost so far...
he’s looking more like a 3rd Rounder. Christian Ponder looks good except for the fact that he still hasn’t recovered from his injuries and keeps throwing floaters with the hang time of a punt.
Dear Passionate fan, I know you are passionate, but please reply with a logical answer or I will ignore you.
I’m sorry. Jake Locker cannot look lost or bad. You must find excuses why others around him are playing poorly.
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Yeah.
He just needs to play with 6’8 receivers who 45’ vertical jumps. That’s all he needs!
by Richard Hill on Jan 29, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
i have been saying it forever that Jake Locker is way overrated...
people will yell at me for saying this but Cam Newton is a way better passer..its not even remotely close
I blame the play calling.
But I’m a bengals fan and know the stupidity of bob brat.
Hopefully my picture doesn't show my bias.
The whole Bengals coaching staff as a whole is pretty miserable.
I can’t believe that they actually gave Lewis more power instead of firing him outright. I thought he was going to be canned years ago.
by Fearless Frog on Jan 29, 2011 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Appreciate the Sarcasm haha...
Wow, this QB draft class is some garbage.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 29, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Every player has a huge risk. It seems like there are no sure things in the class. Even after Bradford last year you know what you were getting with some guys.
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Agreed
Hopefully next year will be a lot more different, this Draft class is comparable to the 2006 Class, it’s all smoke and mirrors hyped by the ESPN Media Machine. It’s predominantly a Defensively stocked draft.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 29, 2011 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
He's not Clady or Jeff Otah or anything
But he does have the bulk that they do and some agility. Could be a good mid round pick
Jake Locker should aim to one bounce the ball to his WRs
that way he’ll get it to them in or around their eyeline
by Sheffieldbengal on Jan 29, 2011 4:53 PM EST reply actions
Because it's Nascar's offseason.
Hahaha
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 29, 2011 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Colin McCarthy
nice tackle. I’ve been high on him for a while.
Damn
Great throw by McElroy. I really think he can be a solid WCO QB.
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Devine is a midget
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 4:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Smart move by McElroy
he knew he had an offside and took a shot down field.
The only problem is that he threw it too late.
Poor idea running Devine in goal line.
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by Dan Kadar on Jan 29, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Why is Devine running between the tackles??
by ENsDad27 on Jan 29, 2011 5:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No clue. Awful coaching. I understand giving guys their chances, but this is giving Devine zero chance to succeed.
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Devine at least still has the greatest HS highlight reel I’ve ever seen.
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Devine looks like a 3rd down scat back and nothing else
Shouldn’t be a high pick. I’d say rounds 5-7
Surprising South is up 17-0
I thought the North team far and away had the better roster.
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Blocking by DJ Williams was impressive
And with his receving abilities, he could be Jermaine Gresham of this draft. Wouldn’t be surprised if he leapfrogs Rudolph…
That run play
Solder looked excellent. He got to show his strength and footwork.
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He'll be a good Center, too undersized to take on the Albert Haynesworth and the Suh's of the world at Guard.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 29, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
How do you figure? He’s 6’2, 280-285. Eric Steinbach is 6’5, 295, tops.
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I think he will play Center
& I think he has the frame to put on a lttle more weight. I think he is solid now tho
That seems to be the overriding feeling on Hudson. I wonder why he didn’t practice some at center this week.
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I don't know
& if he can’t play center I would have to agree that he is small for an NFL guard but I think he would still be pretty good
Short Career though
The Physicality of the league wears down undersized players faster.
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by TerpsAllTheWay on Jan 29, 2011 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Mayock gets paid by agents to name drop.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 5:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
hasnt stood out either
i think hes slightly overhyped. hes a good player but hes not particularly dominant at anything.
Kendricks had a nice catch HOWEVER
The south D completely blew their coverage on him. No one was even within 15 yards of him when he caught the ball.
Son of a bitch
Off topic – My beard got caught in the zipper of my hoodie. Man, that hurt.
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by Dan Kadar on Jan 29, 2011 5:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
not at a tv but
How’s kerrigan looking out there?
See Ball, Get Ball. Quarterback Has Ball, Sack Him.
8-19-2010 Hell froze over, Painter has perect passer rating
by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jan 29, 2011 5:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
FYI
I’m going to step off the computer to eat dinner shortly. I’ll be back sometime in the third quarter.
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Greg Jones was held by Watkins
on a screen pass, wasn’t called. If he wasn’t held he would’ve made a good play.
Kerrigan's stock has gotta be skyrocketing
He’s top consideration now. And the guy he beat, DeMarcus Love, looked lost. Get that guy a map!
Demarcus love, gets beat again
Although he holds and gets called for it. If not for the hold, Kerrigan has another sack.
Love again, moves to guard, gets destroyed on the play
by Sione Fua (Sp?) although Dalton ran for good yardage.
McElroy and any QB that wasn't playing
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He throws a pick.
Not his fault at all. Uses his mobility to move up in the pocket, makes a good throw and hits Kendricks in the hands, but the ball bounces right off them and up. Picked by KJ Wright (sp?)
And apparently Stanford's kids aren't that smart...
Sherman never shoulda jumped the route with 6 seconds to go! He must be getting some kind of waiver for scholastics!
That actually sounds pretty difficult
Basket Weaving may not be that complex, but imagining doing it underwater holding your breath in a shark tank! Now that’s a workout mentally and physically!
Ronald Johnson beat Sherman on a double move.
More of Sherman’s fault, stupid to fall for that with a desperation heave with 6 seconds left in the half. Johnson was wide open, but Dalton didn’t have the arm strength to get it to him, he had to stop and Sherman was able to recover and break it up.
Yes it was Hankerson
Sam the MAN! GIANTS WIN THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!
by loyal2therams on Jan 29, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
If Buffalo doesn't take Von Miller at #3
Then they’re loosing the pass rusher they desperately need.
South>North
This finally puts that age old argument to rest.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 5:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ulysses S. Grant
Begs to differ, bitch
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 29, 2011 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
Haha.
Take it easy tiger.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 5:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm just kidding, bro
Can’t men be men and respectfully lob insults at each other these days? Like that scene in the barbershop in Gran Torino… Reminds me of high school.
Anyway, I meant no offense
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 29, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
+1
And for the record, Robert E Lee was the better General by miles. Ask any military historian or civil war buff, Grant was Lee’s bitch. However Grant had a plethora of men and supplies to throw at Lee. Anyway….
LOL
Is that so? Lee ordered Picket’s Charge (much to the chagrin of Picket and all involved soldiers with brains). That move on the chessboard was the single worst of the entire Civil War, and coincidentally, the event horizon for the South’s doom.
Now, what was Grant up to at that very same time? Why, he was figuring out who to get past the Confederate blockade of the Yazoo River by digging a fucking moat in the adjacent swamps so he could siege Vicksburg. Goddamned ingenious. Grant and Sherman get heat for destroying everything in their path (Total War), but goddamn did it work.
God Bless America.
Yours’ truly,
A history major
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Absolutely cannot beat SBNation
for the ability to wander so far off topic so Quickly :)
Rec Bird
Just try to STOP US
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 29, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly choosing between Grant and Lee is kind of like choosing between Bill Walsh and Bill Bellicheck
Either way you wouldn’t mind having one of them. Of course Bill Walsh is better.
Kellen Moore is awesome
Katie Mcgrath is our savior
my dog <3
Jennifer Beal
wasn’t she in flashdance?
by Sheffieldbengal on Jan 29, 2011 5:54 PM EST reply actions
If anyone is around
And has general draft questions, fire away and I’ll answer.
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Where do u think Phil Taylor will go ?
Frenobillsfan
by cencalclassics on Jan 29, 2011 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
He helped himself this week. Maybe as early as late round two. Plays in a big position of need.
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Von Miller has had a very good day
I have thought he was not worth the hype but I am starting to come around. Do you think he will excel in the NFL ??
Don't forget
Practices for Texas Vs. The Nation start tomorrow, I think.
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Dan
hard question: Where do you see Locker going now?
by Sheffieldbengal on Jan 29, 2011 6:30 PM EST reply actions
Who has sucked today
Allen Bailey. Had a below-average week of practice. Now he’s being pushed around by Lance Kendricks.
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Which O-line position would you guess that Love & Ziemba play ??
A lttle argument over on HH about the two
Stanzi
was showing a little command in that last drive.
he's showing how he swings
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Falcons take Hankerson or I'm eating a bullet.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 6:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Well only if we pick up Ray Edwards or the like in FA.
We pick so late and his stock just rocketed.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 6:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ponder has been my favorite QB out of this draft all season.
Injuries and all. FSU had a pourous O line.
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by Ball Hawk on Jan 29, 2011 6:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
he is def worth a gamble
but in what round?
by Sheffieldbengal on Jan 29, 2011 6:58 PM EST up reply actions
He's a QB
Locker taking a dump may allow Ponder to skip into the late first.
Gotta say I’d rather role with Ponder than Locker.
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Hell...I wouldn't rule out top 20
people thought Josh Freeman was a 2nd-3rd. I doubt any team aside from teh Bucs thought he’d be as good has he’s been this early, but it only takes one team.
And there’s plenty of teams with poop at QB
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I am looking forward to Feb 10th
I’m a big Cam Newton fan, doubt that many agree but I think he will be a stud in the NFL
If his head is screwed on right Cam Newton will be a great NFL QB.
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by Frederick0220 on Jan 29, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Has his moments, but then again will do things to make you dislike him
Def has accuracy issues. Like how Mayock broke down his throwing style, comparing it to his infield baseball throwing technique…
As far as I've observed, Locker's mechanics are not the issue at all.
It’s kind of perplexing why he’s as inaccurate as he is.
by Fearless Frog on Jan 30, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
He made a lot of good throws until he sailed the last one
I’d take him at 25 for the Seahawks.
Yes, we have a coupon.
by Crystal for DH on Jan 29, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't take him until the 4th round.
He is the next Boller.
Painfully inaccurate.
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by Frederick0220 on Jan 29, 2011 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Who was the genuis that thought
the Bills and Bengals should couch this game?
Better yet,
Who thought Wade Phillips should coach in the Shrine game?
HA!
After today, what do you like? He’s shown almost nothing.
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His performance...
wasn’t as bad as you are making it out to be, imo. And anyways, I don’t put much stock in the game.
@foryourhandicap
Yeah...
…it’s not about how he performs on the field. It’s about mechanics, not actual production.
by Richard Hill on Jan 29, 2011 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
It seemed like Ponder & Locker
almost exchanged draft positions with Ponder moving up quite a bit & Locker moving down by the same
Ponder has bad arm strength though but then again you don't need much in a WCO.
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So, Winners & Losers?
i think Ponder wins a little
Locker loses
Phil Taylor wins as the no.1 3-4 NT
Allen Bailey loses
by Sheffieldbengal on Jan 29, 2011 7:15 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, Hankerson too.
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by Frederick0220 on Jan 29, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
Von Miller is a winner.
But we already knew that.
Stanzi impressed at times.
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by Frederick0220 on Jan 29, 2011 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
does Cam Jordon win?
or does his no real show in the game counter his good practices?
by Sheffieldbengal on Jan 29, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
How in the hell is Matt Millen employed by both ESPN and NFL Network
Its bad enough that he is on one
to make the rest of them seem smart
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How did Curtis Brown do?
Can’t find anything on him and how he performed.
BTSC Obituaries
OldManSteeler, ominously died two days before Superbowl 123 where the Ravens are set to attempt their 7th superbowl win, facing the Detroit Lions on Sunday. He was 86. His last words are are said to have been "MALOR CAN SUCK IT!!!". Like friends and family, we can only guess what this could mean.
by Tim Mullhaupt (HSS) on Jan 29, 2011 10:18 PM EST reply actions
What happen with Carimi
Anyone know why he didn’t play?
by cryinsilverblustars4eva on Jan 30, 2011 2:23 AM EST reply actions
I believe he was held out with an injury?
by Richard Hill on Jan 30, 2011 2:58 AM EST up reply actions
an ankle
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown." -Carl Sagan
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