Updated 2012 NFL Draft quarterback rankings

by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 10:00 AM EST in 2012 NFL Draft

WACO, TX - NOVEMBER 19: Robert Griffin III #10 of the Baylor Bears celebrates a 96 yard touchdown pass against the Oklahoma Sooners at Floyd Casey Stadium on November 19, 2011 in Waco, Texas. (Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images)

Look what I saved for last on the rankings updates. Pretty tricky, right?

Anyway, No. 1 and No. 2 remain the same with Andrew Luck of Stanford and Matt Barkley of Southern California. You probably expected as much. What you'll see different (after the jump) is that Robert Griffin III has catapulted Landry Jones of Oklahoma for spot three. Griffin, at times, has been a sensation while Jones has had his struggles. Brandon Weeden from Oklahoma State was also moved up. If he weren't already 28, he'd probably be at four here.

All day tomorrow I'll have the new top 100 coming out in a few different chunks. The top 10 is going to look very different than it currently does.

1. Andrew Luck | 6'5, 235 pounds | QB | Stanford * - Prospect notes | Profile

2. Matt Barkley | 6'2, 220 pounds | QB | Southern California * - Prospect notes | Profile

3. Robert Griffin 6'2, 220 pounds | QB | Baylor * - Prospect notes

4. Landry Jones | 6'4, 220 pounds | QB | Oklahoma * - Prospect notes | Profile

5. Ryan Tannehill | 6'4, 220 pounds | QB | Texas A&M - Prospect notes

6. Brandon Weeden | 6'4, 224 pounds | QB | Oklahoma State

7. Nick Foles | 6'5, 245 pounds | QB | Arizona - Prospect notes

8. Brock Osweiler | 6'8, 240 pounds | QB | Arizona State *

9. Tyler Wilson | 6'3, 220 pounds | QB | Arkansas *

10. Geno Smith | 6'3, 210 pounds | QB | West Virginia *

11. Austin Davis | 6'1, 221 pounds | QB | Southern Mississippi

12. Kirk Cousins | 6'3, 205 pounds | QB | Michigan State - Prospect notes

13. E.J. Manuel | 6'4, 245 pounds | QB | Florida State

14. Ryan Lindley | 6'4, 215 pounds | QB | San Diego State - Prospect notes

15. Russell Wilson | 5'11, 210 pounds | QB | Wisconsin

16. Case Keenum | 6'2, 210 pounds | QB | Houston

17. Sean Renfree | 6'4, 225 pounds | QB | Duke *

18. Kellen Moore | 6'0, 187 pounds | QB | Boise State

19. G.J. Kinne | 6'2, 215 pounds | QB | Tulsa

20. Patrick Witt | 6'3, 220 pounds | QB | Yale

21. Alex Carder | 6'2, 224 pounds | QB | Western Michigan

22. Chandler Harnish | 6'2, 220 pounds | QB | Northern Illinois

* denotes underclassman

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Does anybody else feel bad for Weeden?

If he were a few years younger, he’d be a 1st rounder.

In any case, I hate EJ Manuel, he shouldn’t even be on this list. Can’t disagree with anything else.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 23, 2011 11:18 AM EST reply actions

Exactly

That’s why I think he will slide several rounds. If he is there at the 4th, I’d like the Broncos to pull the trigger and grab him as a backup.

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by Fabio Broncos on Nov 23, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions

Backup?

He would be a better player than Tebow, although that isn’t saying much.

by Riddlah. on Nov 23, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions

Ok, I won't discuss this pointless stuff with you.

I’ll just respect your opinion.

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by Fabio Broncos on Nov 23, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions

I agree

by Cup Noodles on Nov 24, 2011 8:07 PM EST up reply actions

I understand that he will drop but considering there are QBs that play into their 40s he has the potential to play for at least 10 years.
On that basis someone might consider a 2nd round pick if they like him.

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by SteveUK on Nov 23, 2011 1:02 PM EST up reply actions

Weeden=Chris Weinke 2.0?

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by Joeb'n777 on Nov 23, 2011 1:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

it's not just how many years they'll get out of him...

it also makes it harder to judge how good his play really is. It’s like when you see 26 year olds in AA baseball tearing things up, but they are considered non prospects. Being more developed physically and mentally, along with being more mature, etc… gives him a huge advantage when going up against guys that are 20.

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by uclatroy on Nov 23, 2011 2:09 PM EST up reply actions

That's it

“You can’t teach new tricks to an old dog”.

The older the player joins the NFL, the more difficult for him to learn the game. He is a stud, but I can easily see him sliding to a 4th round.

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by Fabio Broncos on Nov 23, 2011 2:36 PM EST up reply actions

Not really.

It was his choice to wait on college football.

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by Omaha Sun on Nov 23, 2011 2:48 PM EST up reply actions

yep

by Cup Noodles on Nov 24, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions

I feel bad for EJ Manuel

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by Rorschach44 on Nov 23, 2011 5:15 PM EST up reply actions

ha. I just said that because I'm a Miami fan.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 23, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions

Here we go!

this should be fun.

I just put Griffin over Jones in my most recent mock, so clearly I agree with the change. While a lot of people are saying it’s an indictment on Jones I think its more praise for Griffin, and I don’t think it has everything to do with Baylor’s win over Oklahoma.

Also, I gotta say I don’t think Geno Smith is too low, and I doubt he comes out this year, but I’m a big fan of his. I know it wasn’t an overall perfect game, but the numbers he put up against that LSU defense are extremely impressive. I think for next year’s draft, he’ll be a top prospect, IMO.

Finally, what the hell happened to Ryan Lindley?

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by DBroncs1414 on Nov 23, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions

Lindley= Bad mechanics versus good competition

See week 4 vs Michigan

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by Joeb'n777 on Nov 23, 2011 11:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Lindley has always been just ok.

I think it says more about the player above Geno Smith than him.

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions

Just Wondering

What is your take on Denard Robinson. Do you think he’ll stay for another year at Michigan? If he gets drafted, what position would it be for?

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by Detroitnr1 on Nov 23, 2011 12:31 PM EST reply actions

Hope you don't mind me jumping in,

But in my opinion, Robsinson certainly should stay another year but will consider leaving because Hoke is trying to implement more of a Pro-style offense where the QB is more of a passer than a runner, and that doesn’t fit Robsinson. Anyways, he should be a RB/WR prospect depending on which he’s better at, and maybe a Returner too. I just think his passing is too poor, I don’t think he could ever get close to the level of Vick’s passing.

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by BlackPack-fan on Nov 23, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions

Agree

I am really hoping he returns(I am a Michigan Fan) cause not only would it help the team but would help his draft stock a lot. I think we will have to see just how much he improves as a passer before we write him off as a QB.

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by Detroitnr1 on Nov 23, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions

His throwing mechanics leave so much to be desired that he's going to have to change positions.

And before someone states Tebow as a counter example, I ask you this: would any current general manager/player personal decision maker take Tebow right now as a QB? Not only do I think the answer is no, we know for sure John Elway wouldn’t.

by Jason Hirschhorn on Nov 23, 2011 4:06 PM EST up reply actions

I don't think he'll even seriously consider coming out

I think the team means too much to him to leave early. I also think he’ll want to stay to get his degree, he comes off as that type of guy.

In regards to where he plays at the next level I think QB is completely out of the question. First off he he’s to short, and his accuracy isnt even close to NFL level. That said, I can see him as an effective slot receiver a la Antwan Randle El. He’s got to good of athleticism and work ethic not to do something at the next level.

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by Joeb'n777 on Nov 23, 2011 12:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

I wouldn't completely rule out QB

We have to see what he can do next season if he does return(Which I both hope and think he will). His size might give him a disadvantage but not prevent him from playing QB. In my opinion it’s just too early to tell.

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by Detroitnr1 on Nov 23, 2011 2:54 PM EST up reply actions

Height is less important when it comes to mobile QBs.

Obviously he’s rather light too, which is more of the concern, but I think height can be a bit overstated as an issue for QBs who are as mobile as Denard is. The normal issue with height is that a short QB won’t be able to see over the line. Given how often these QBs play out of the pocket, it’s less of an issue. Again, the issue with Denard is his weight (the 193 he’s listed at is way too light for an NFL QB) and that he doesn’t possess even adequate throwing mechanics. Given those issues, I think WR is his most likely NFL position.

by Jason Hirschhorn on Nov 23, 2011 4:11 PM EST up reply actions

+ 100

Denard Robinson is a NFL slot WR. The Randle El comparison is a great one.

by Ravens One on Nov 23, 2011 8:59 PM EST up reply actions

I got him pegged as a 3rd down back

For all the reasons BPF said. I think he’d be more useful than Dexter McCluster.

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by dbcouver on Nov 23, 2011 6:29 PM EST up reply actions

As mentioned above he's to light

Also, I can’t see him providing a whole lot in the way of pass protection (given his size for one)

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by Joeb'n777 on Nov 24, 2011 9:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

Yes, I think he stays for another year at Michigan. No clue what he is at the next level. Given the way he can move around, I wouldn’t be shocked to see him tried at running back.

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions

Just an Idea here

Lets just say for the sake of argument that he declares this year and Tim Tebow is the starting QB for the Broncos.

Lets just say Robinson gets drafted by the Broncos in lets say the 3rd round. Then the Broncos could have both him and Tebow on the field at the same time. You would never know what play was going to get called.

Robinson could run it or throw it, he could option it to Tebow and vice versa.

This would give the Broncos the ultimate wildcat offense.
Not a Broncos fan, just thought it would be a good fit.
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by Detroitnr1 on Nov 23, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions

This sort of sounds neat, but I doubt it could work at the NFL level. College, sure, but maybe not in the pros.

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions

I can see all the QBs from 1-9 being potential starters one day

and I think Kirk COusins and EJ Manual have a shot too. Solid class.

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by Rorschach44 on Nov 23, 2011 5:17 PM EST reply actions

You might be right about 1-9. I don’t think all nine of them will come out, though.

I don’t like Cousins’ arm, so that’s why he’s so low.

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions

Is it the wrong shape for you?

I think he has one of the stronger arms in the class. His accuracy drops him down.

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by ct17 on Nov 23, 2011 11:37 PM EST up reply actions

I heard Cousins makes a fart sound with his arm when he throws the ball

I see why Dan doesn’t like it, tho I myself appreciate such things.

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by Rorschach44 on Nov 24, 2011 8:42 AM EST up reply actions

I doubt anyone other than Luck or Barkley declare this year

Griffin and Jones could both easily be in both the Heisman and nati races next year. Maybe not but they could decide to stay as many underclassmen may. There’s not as much of a hurry to leave other than getting through the rookie contract period earlier.

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by dbcouver on Nov 23, 2011 6:33 PM EST reply actions

You might be right. I have the feeling Griffin will stay at Baylor.

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 9:04 PM EST up reply actions

Think Griffin stays too

First of all, I think he wants to return to get his degree. In addition to that, he will be a front runner for both the Heisman and the 1st overall pick next year. He will also get a shot at a better bowl game for Baylor.

All of this applys to Landry(“Lance”)Jones as well.

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by Detroitnr1 on Nov 23, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions

If I'm not mistaken

Robert Griffin III has or will have his degree. Stay in for a Heisman and risk injury?

by Ravens One on Nov 23, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions

I think he already has his bachelor’s and wants to start law school.

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions

True that!

by Ravens One on Nov 23, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions

Is Russells height his biggest detractor?

He strikes me as an accurate passer and willing to sling it. Do you think he projects to a starter? I bet he does.

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by dbcouver on Nov 23, 2011 9:09 PM EST reply actions

Yes, it’s the height thing.

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions

I have Griffin over Luck and Barkley

Barkley has impressed lately with some of his throws from the pocket. Luck is overhyped and I don’t like how he plays under duress in the pocket.

by Ravens One on Nov 23, 2011 9:21 PM EST reply actions

I’m less concerned about how Luck does under duress and more so about how he does with pressure. We’ve seen it the last two years in Stanford’s two biggest games (both Oregon).

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions

i have talked about this with so many people about Luck

My concern with him is how he responds to pressure. Two different things i look for with responds to pressure and two different skill sets that you must have to be elite… and i question this with Luck.

1. responds to pressure
A. Can a quarterback escape and make a play down field (IE Romo excells at this)
B. Can a quarterback sense quick pressure make a choice and get ride of the football for positive plays

2. skill sets in the pocket
A. can feel the rush and not look at the rush
B. Stays composed under pressure and body language is calm as if he is in a 7 on 7 drill

Luck seems rattled with pressure
Doesn’t have Escape artist skills to get out of a jam and make a play down field.
Eyes come off down field recievers with pressure

This pocket traits trouble me and lead me to believe he will be a good quarterback and not a great one…. NFL quarterbacks that are fearless in the pocket and can stand in there is all the time in the world and are calm or escape danger… THOSE are traits of the real elite quarterbacks.

It just seems like alot of group think when it comes to Luck. It is sad because i think he could be really good. But i see Chris Chandler….NOT John Elway.. And Chandler was good i mean he made a Super Bowl and a few Pro Bowls.. but he wasn’t great…. but he was very good… That is what i see when i look at Luck.

Honestly i think RG3 could very well be a better quarterback because he is more dynamc… and can project the football at all levels of the football field with crazy accuracy along with the ability to make plays when the play breaks down…. i see him as a smarter Tony Romo …( know many will compare him to Vick or Newton but unlike them he is more established as a passer at this stage in his career)

I also like Tyler Wilson alot…. something about him reminds me of Tom Brady in terms of decision making and ball placement.. love his game.

by Shankdiddy on Nov 23, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

i meant to add to B

B. Can a quarterback sense quick pressure make a choice and get ride of the football for positive plays

Romo sucks at this aspect lol

by Shankdiddy on Nov 23, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions

This is a good post

I am in complete agreement on Luck. To expand on Luck:

1. I don’t think he throws a clean ball consistently (tight spiral).
2. His velocity on intermediate and deeper throws is spotty giving college DB’s time to react and jump routes (see recent
    USC game) in my opinion.
3. I don’t see a wow passer, the kind that Luck is being associated with like a young Elway coming out of Stanford.
4, I don’t think Luck will be able to “drive it” down the field in the NFL. Is he doing on the collegiate level?
5. Luck’s in a WCO system that I don’t think challanges him vertically enough as a passer to warrant all the hype. I’ve
    seen other less celebrated QB’s put the team on their backs when in a hole against good competition. Luck has
    recently disappointed on a big stage, twice, with the Heisman hanging in the balance!

by Ravens One on Nov 24, 2011 12:50 AM EST up reply actions

when i say this i don't mean to sound like Luck will be a bust cause i am not... however

I think that the quarterback that is the “once in a 25 year” type quarterback was drafted already by Carolina in my opinion….in terms of being “unique”

I just think Luck is getting on warrented hype…. kinda like Newton got alot of negative hype… when the truth for both players was always closer too the middle than any extreme.

This “group think” hive mind type thinking in sports and the media is brain numbing. I often wonder how so many people can’t see this….

Don’t get me wrong i think Luck is the safest choice at number 1. But i don’t think in the end he will be the best from this draft class.

This issue with quarterback evalutions is that the talking heads all evaluate backwards…. they talking about systems and arm strenght and accuracy…. but before you can get too that aspect of a quarterbacks game they have to be able to be composed enough to pass the football… and from the “eye ball test” the quarterbacks that have excelled have all looked calm and collected in the pocket even with all heck breaking lose…. example… Joey Harrington, this guy looked great at Oregan (with no one in his face against lesser competion)… But a NFL pocket is crowded and the Defensive cordinatoors entire game plan is too disrupte that quarterback and make him get happy feet… and the good quarterbacks… the really good ones aren’t phased…

Like Tom Brady is fearless even though at times he gets sacked .. yet he stands in there and is calm in the process

I firmly believe Cam Newton is still simi clueless about reading defences… YET he is able to function because what little he does no as a rookie he is able to process because he is sooooo calm in the pocket and IS fearless while all of his focus is down field….(which i pointed out pre draft i felt he was the most advanced of all the quarterbacks pre draft for that reason regardless of system he played in)

It is my belief that pocket skills Make or BREAK a quarterback and if a quarterback is shaky in that department the entire team senses it… when you see a quarterback curl up and go down because he is scared (this doesn’t bold well)… but the quarterback that is poised and calm almost always excels.. almost always… regardless of system of level of experience… if your good at that you will be good.

If i am a evaluator i would look at this on film really close with Luck because in all of the games he has struggled in it was this trait that screamed out too me >>> something isn’t right here…. not for all the hype he has recieved…. troubling troubling trait

by Shankdiddy on Nov 24, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs

I like Andrew Luck as a prospect too

I see Luck closer to a Matt Hasselbeck from a ceiling perspective and Hasselbeck’s been a good pro but not “revolutionary”. I do disagree about Luck being the safest. I’m going with Griffin. Griffin’s off the chain athlectically, has a cannon for an arm, apperars to have all the intangibles from the neck up and is a great kid off the field. I see some young, pre- CFL Warren Moon in RG3’s game.

This "group think" hive mind type thinking in sports and the media is brain numbing. I often wonder how so many people can’t see this….

This is a problem. The dumbing down of the reader and the listener by the American Media. The truth of the matter, the media can get away with it, to a degree, because some of the fans can be told what to think and will not do their own due diligence. I look forward to the talking heads spinning the conversation on these prospect as time moves forward and the Draft proceess approaches. I really get a chuckle from it all.

It is my belief that pocket skills Make or BREAK a quarterback and if a quarterback is shaky in that department the entire team senses it… when you see a quarterback curl up and go down because he is scared (this doesn’t bold well)… but the quarterback that is poised and calm almost always excels.. almost always… regardless of system of level of experience… if your good at that you will be good.

You just discribed Blaine Gabbert at Missouri and down in Jacksonville.

And please don’t get me started on the Cam Newton conversation taking place during the pre and post Draft process this past draft. I am physically ROFLMA at the pundits as it relates to Cam Newton’s success.

by Ravens One on Nov 24, 2011 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I do disagree about Luck being the safest. I’m going with Griffin. Griffin’s off the chain athlectically, has a cannon for an arm, apperars to have all the intangibles from the neck up and is a great kid off the field. I see some young, pre- CFL Warren Moon in RG3’s game.

The dynamic i am refering to is the fact that the media spin on Luck is that he is the best in this coming draft. And if you pick RG3 at 1 you better hit on him regardless…. i say that because EVERYONE will give any GM that drafts RG3 over luck a hard time….. EVEN if RG3 comes out on fire there will be those that say it was terrible to pass on Luck…. and that will last be a choice that stays with their careers forever….. so from that stand point Luck is the safe pick because a GM can say “well everyone in the world said he was the safe pick and soon to be great one it was smart to chose him”….. so from that point of view what GM is going to be brave enough to pass on Luck for RG3?

It is my opinion that i think RG3 will shoot up too 1b in this coming draft as the season develops…. and after he kills the combine he will build even more steam toward the logic of him going first being more realistic… right now it is too early to say… but if he plays out the way i think and he is healthy… i would take RG3… with solid season by Newton some will say “hey this type of player is the future”.. and it wil be easyer to validate that selection.

by Shankdiddy on Nov 24, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Great thoughts

i say that because EVERYONE will give any GM that drafts RG3 over luck a hard time….. EVEN if RG3 comes out on fire there will be those that say it was terrible to pass on Luck…. and that will last be a choice that stays with their careers forever….. so from that stand point Luck is the safe pick because a GM can say "well everyone in the world said he was the safe pick and soon to be great one it was smart to chose him"….. so from that point of view what GM is going to be brave enough to pass on Luck for RG3?

You bring up another important flaw in the talent evaluation process. It should be about the homerun for these GM’s and not playing it safe. Talent should trump! What you’re saying is that job security has become increasingly more important to some Franchises than picking the best available talent. Flawed, indeed.

with solid season by Newton some will say "hey this type of player is the future".. and it wil be easyer to validate that selection.

Cam Newton has changed things. The sheer size, arm-strength/talent to attack to all 5 field zones, willingness to look down the gun barrel in the face of pressure, force of personality, increasing command of his offense and elite athleticism to escape pressure is a combination of talent that is very rare! Hank Aaron would call Cam Newton a homerun. Just sayin’.

by Ravens One on Nov 25, 2011 1:23 PM EST up reply actions

talent evaluation has almost become PC

You bring up another important flaw in the talent evaluation process. It should be about the homerun for these GM’s and not playing it safe. Talent should trump! What you’re saying is that job security has become increasingly more important to some Franchises than picking the best available talent. Flawed, indeed.

GMs face alot of pressure and they have to be able to justify their actions years down the line… making a RG3 selection over Luck a pressure packed choice… where as picking Luck even while your gut tells you to pick RG3 is safer for job security (atleast that is the feeling i am getting)

There are so many mindless “follower” type thinkers that hear how great luck is … i myself looked for myself and i do think he is going to be good… but not a homerun, sure thing, knock it out of the box, HOF… i think he will be pretty good. But i would not be at all surprized if Andy Dalton turns out to be a better pro only because skill set wise i don’t see a unique talent when i look at Luck.. i just see pretty good player… mentally i don’t see the pocket skills to lead me to believe he will be instinctive

by Shankdiddy on Nov 25, 2011 1:45 PM EST up reply actions

You just discribed Blaine Gabbert at Missouri and down in Jacksonville

i talked about this pre draft with the Bills nation and Panther Nation….and i spelled out Newton and how he should project into the pros almost too the letter

It is my belief that instinctive skills can not be taught… a running back having vision… a defensive back locating the football….quarterbacks pocket awareness .. Gabbert never displayed skills in the pocket and infact he has shown the same panic type of body language he had in college……

Sometimes people don’t seem to be able to accept what they see on film instead the look at stats and scouting reports… and that is a very small aspect of a quarterbacks evaluation process in my humble opinion

by Shankdiddy on Nov 24, 2011 7:12 PM EST up reply actions

True that!

Sometimes people don’t seem to be able to accept what they see on film instead the look at stats and scouting reports… and that is a very small aspect of a quarterbacks evaluation process in my humble opinion

They see it 3 years late when the Franchise is Drafting another QB, setting the wheels in motion for an up and down next 4-5 years.

by Ravens One on Nov 25, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions

This is some of the best dialogue I have read recently...

Great work to both of you. RG3 “wild card” status adds such a great element to next years draft, that is, if he decides to come out.

Perhaps that is what the NFL needs, some younger, risk-taking, GM’s. Very Aggresive. Very much like MLB. Big-risk = Huge-rewards.

by jgibbsfan1 on Nov 26, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions

Thanks

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by Ravens One on Nov 26, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions

Excellent and Rec Shank

you hit it on the head

by Steve_Chiefs on Nov 25, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions

Don't know the Tyler Wilson kid

I’ll do my homework and get back to ya’.

by Ravens One on Nov 24, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions

this is why I like Russel Wilson.

He’s a Shorty but has ‘it’.

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by dbcouver on Nov 24, 2011 6:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions

I would have Kellen Moore in the top 10

Probably as high as 8. I’d also move Case Keenum up to around 10. I’d take them both over Smith, Osweiler, Davis, Manuel, Cousins, Lindley, Renfree.

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by NMVike on Nov 23, 2011 9:53 PM EST reply actions

Kellen Moore is 18

WRONG

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by manraj7 on Nov 23, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions

Lulz

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 23, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Your right, he should be 20

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by Joeb'n777 on Nov 23, 2011 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

Alright, can we tone it down with the Weeden hype?

I love the guy since I sometimes start him in fantasy, but seriously, he wouldn’t be a 1st rounder if he were 22.

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Nov 23, 2011 10:50 PM EST reply actions

Austin Davis sighting!

He is gonna be a late riser in the 2012 Draft.

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by RagingAlot on Nov 24, 2011 12:32 AM EST reply actions

Austin Davis is my boy.

He seems to me to be the unheralded, low round guy who will eclipse most if not all QB’s drafted ahead of him after a good 5 or 6 years. As far as Robert Griffin III, if he does declare I can see him being more competition for Andrew Luck and the 1st overall pick than anyone else thinks. His combine WILL be amazing all around, including I suspect his wonderlic. Luck isn’t Peyton, as much as people love to compare, he just isn’t. RG III makes a late, late surge and after his pro day solidifies his standing as the number one pick.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Nov 24, 2011 9:08 AM EST reply actions

I can't wait...

…till all you geniuses eat crow when Kellen Moore becomes another Drew Brees. He is the winningest, smartest, best reading QB in the history of college football. He is WAY better than Brees was and way smarter and a better QB than Luck. Luck has thrown 4 pick 6’s this year, two in the 4th qtr. Moore had NEVER thrown one. He is 2nd in TD’s and yardage and first in TD to picks EVER. He leads the nation in completion pct and would have ALL the QB records if Case Keenum did not have an extra year (6) of eligibility (9 more games).

Some of the mediocre QB’s you put ahead of him on this list are just ludicrous…and dishonest.

by HSridge on Nov 24, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions

LOL

by Yankees10 on Nov 24, 2011 10:31 PM EST up reply actions

HAHA!

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by Dan Kadar on Nov 25, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions

Crazy talk right where there

by Ravens One on Nov 25, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions

I'm so sick of the "everything Boise State" hype train

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by Joeb'n777 on Nov 25, 2011 6:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

saying Moore has a noodle arm is an insult to noodles

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by Rorschach44 on Nov 25, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I had to rec this ^^^^^

I laughed so hard.

by Ravens One on Nov 25, 2011 10:59 PM EST up reply actions

What about over cooked Ramen noodles?

Is it an insult to them because they’re not made here in the US? And they’re extra noodly, and very good I might add.

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by dbcouver on Nov 26, 2011 2:44 AM EST up reply actions

I once nuked ramen noodles without putting water in first.

Terrible smell.

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by Omaha Sun on Nov 27, 2011 1:47 AM EST up reply actions

some of the QB put of ahead of him are ludicrous

but he is not a top 5 prospect. I’m sorry he isn’t. I’m probably the biggest Kellen Moore fan but he isn’t a first rounder or 2nd. My guess is a 3rd or 4th. He didn’t play in the greatest of conferences and the best thing that he can do is go to the senior bowl dominate like he will show that he can make all the passes. Then celebrate.

by manraj7 on Nov 26, 2011 2:31 AM EST up reply actions