Is The 2nd Round The Best Place To Find A Quality RB?
The success of recent 2nd round picks Matt Forte, LeSean McCoy, Maurice Jones-Drew and Ray Rice combined with the devaluation of RB's league-wide has led a lot of draft observers to conclude that the 2nd round is the "sweet spot" for finding a RB. You get a good player, without using a 1st round pick on a position which is less valuable (in many minds) than it used to be and has a short shelf life. The 2012 draft is fairly weak in terms of early RB talent, especially once you get beyond sure-fire top 10 pick Trent Richardson and likely 1st rounder Lamar Miller (assuming he declares). But there are still a few decent prospects who should hear their name called in the 2nd round. What's the likelihood that 2012 will produce the next Forte, McCoy, Jones-Drew or Rice?
Not so surprisingly, the 1st round RB's put up significantly more yardage than their 2nd round peers. In fact, the difference between a 2nd and 3rd round RB has been nearly half that of the difference between a 1st and 2nd round RB. One thing that stands out here is that the production difference comes mostly from rushing, and not receiving. In other words, either 1st round RB's tend to be bad receivers or successful 2nd/3rd round backs tend to be especially good receivers.
Another way to look at the production of these RB's is by their per-game rushing & receiving yards. Take a look at the number of RB's, by round, to average 70+ total yards from scrimmage per game:
As you can see, more than half of 1st rounders and less than a third of 2nd round RB's drafted between 2001-2010 have put up 70+ YPG. Other than the 4 aforementioned 2nd rounders, only Clinton Portis, Travis Henry and Ben Tate have achieved this milestone. In the same time period, there have been 12 2nd rounders and 5 1st rounders who have averaged less than 50 YPG.
And while the success of 2nd round RB's has been greater in the last 5 years, finding a quality RB in the 2nd is still a 50/50 (or worse) proposition. Check out the 2nd round RB's from 2006-2010:
People focus on the top 4 guys but seem to forget all about the 6 (7 if you include the perpetually hurt Hardesty) duds.
As far as the 2012 draft goes, here are 3 guys who, if they declare, I expect to see go between picks #33 and #64:
David Wilson (Virginia Tech) - Unlike most of the successful 2nd round backs of the last 10 years, Wilson doesn't have much experience as a receiver. However, he does have an attractive skillset which is sure to get his name called fairly early in next April's draft. Wilson is likely to be the fastest RB at the combine, with the speed and explosiveness to be a big play threat every time he touches the ball. He'll draw some comparisons to both Jahvid Best and Chris Johnson, but his running style reminds me most of Ahmad Bradshaw. He has some untapped potential as a pass-catcher and should be able to help out immediately on kick-returns
Chris Polk (Washington) - While Wilson is flashy and will generate plenty of buzz at the scouting combine and pro days, Chris Polk will likely fly under the radar a bit. He's a well-rounded back who doesn't really catch your eye in any one area. He's got good size but isn't the prototypical power-back. His speed is adequate, but some scouts and draft experts will consider him to be lacking the needed burst to succeed in the NFL. His lateral agility is pretty good for a bigger guy but he'll never remind anyone of Barry Sanders. His hands are solid but his lack of explosiveness and poor route-running make him an underwhelming option as a receiver. That said, Polk is a productive back who could make an excellent #2 option in a 2 back scheme. He does enough things "pretty well" to have a good shot at NFL success and while he doesn't have the best physical tools, he's got good awareness and instincts which allow him to get through holes quickly and break the occasional long run.
LaMichael James (Oregon) - Most people are familiar with the diminutive James by this point. Listed at 5'9 185, James will get dismissed as too small to withstand the rigors of the NFL. Which is probably accurate. While Jones-Drew and Rice are also small backs, James lacks the frame to put on weight and his lower body isn't nearly as thick as theirs. It's very unlikely that James ever becomes an every-down back, or even the primary guy in a multi-back scheme. He's a true change-of-pace guy in the Darren Sproles mold. If he can stay healthy, James should find success in the NFL as a receiver, returner and occasional runner.
What other RB's are likely to go in round 2? Who will be the most successful 2012 2nd round RB?
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James has actually added weight already he’s up to 195-200, plus just because he’s small doesn’t mean he plays small
doesn't play small but is still small which is a problem for the NFL
MJD and Sproles are obvious exceptions but they are exceptions, not the rule. btw, this comes from someone who greatly likes Oregon RBs
Don’t forget Rice. He’s 5’7 or 5’8
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by floridafalcons#63 on Nov 30, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't know what the hell to look for with Running Backs anymore.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 28, 2011 4:10 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
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by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Ones with healthy feet
And two good ACLs
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6"4 265lbs apparently only works for 2 years as well
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overrated
Note: Frank Gore
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I was thinking about it
A lot of running the ball has to do with the O-Line and blocking. I guess instead of looking at YPC should look at Yards after contact or see how many tackles a RB can beat before being taken down.
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I've seen plenty of David Wilson and I've seen Bradshaw his whole Giants career
probably the last RB I’ve ever thought Wilson would be compared to is Bradshaw. I mean its not even close. Wilson just explodes through any sliver of a hole and is tough to bring down. Bradshaw bobs and weaves for hours and most of the time F’s himself out of a big gain by doing it, tho of course he gains more yards then he should on other carries.
Wilson probably shouldn’t ever try and do what Bradshaw does either, he’s way too gifted an athlete to think he’s 100lbs heavier then he is.
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Chris Johnson and Jamaal Charles are who Wilson best resembles
but he’s really a lot more powerful then either and probably could thrive in a less gimmicky zone blocking scheme then those two.
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Charles is a good comparison
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I like both David Wilson and Chris Polk
I think both have a lot of potential at the next level. A few others like Montee Ball and Pead may have a chance but not sure they will go in round 2.
Thank you for this
I’ve maintained for awhile that Running backs are worth it in the first round, this isn’t proof or anything, but makes me seem like less of an idiot than before
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People focus on the top 4 guys but seem to forget all about the 6 (7 if you include the perpetually hurt Hardesty) duds.
I wouldn’t dismiss all of those guys as duds, particularly Brandon Jackson. He never turned into a great runner, but he is still a valuable piece for any team. He’s a terrific blocker and a very good pass-catcher out of the backfield.
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