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Tampa Bay Bucs: Serious Team Needs in 2012


Other than all-new coaching at Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator, and Secondary Coaching. Seriously. This has been a baaaaaaad year.

Need listed by position from QB onward:

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Quarterback: While Josh Freeman has certainly slipped from his sophomore year, he still has the skill sets to be a franchise QB. The depth concern is there with backup Josh Johnson demonstrating this year why he's still riding a bench... and I think this off-season Josh is a free agent who might jump elsewhere. The Bucs can't draft too high, but they could look at bringing in a long-term project in the later rounds.

Need: Low Projected Draft Spot: Sixth Round

Running Back/Fullback: Blount is a bulldozer with leaping abilities. He's the first real yard-gaining threat on the team since Cadillac Williams' rookie year. The problem is that he's currently used in running situations ONLY: the Bucs do not like to have him out there in passing plays... even though the guy they've sent out there - Lumpkin - may be a decent catcher but a lousy ground gainer. You'd want to keep defenses guessing pass or run play, and obvious personnel changes like that don't help. A third-down alternate-type RB would be an option here, someone akin to Warrick Dunn. It depends on the needs (cornerback!) the Bucs have that are higher priority (CB! CB! CB!), which would force the need at RB down into the mid-rounds of the draft. I'd like to believe that a good smallish-fast-durable scatback RB can be found by the Third Round...

Need: High Projected Draft Spot: Third Round

Wide Receiver: The Bucs still don't have a Marquee-name receiver that would strike fear into the hearts of defenses, that's true. But the WR corps we have - especially Benn, Williams and Stroughter as the major guys - are still young and show room for improvement. If Williams can get back on the same page with Freeman, and stop dropping passes... well it'd be 2010 all over again, which would be nice (understatement). If there's anything wrong it's lack of experience (the oldest guy is now, what, Michael Spurlock?!), so drafting ANOTHER young receiver might not be a good idea. Unless it's a sure-fire, lights-out, speedster-with-hands WR that can catch 10 TDs a season GUARANTEED, the Bucs shouldn't be wasting a draft pick here.

Need: Low Projected Draft Spot: None

Tight End: There's a love-hate problem with Kellen Winslow IMHO. I love that he's a great receiver, that he can get yards and first downs. I hate that the passing game seems to over-rely on him especially in Red Zone situations where the opposing defenses triple-team him and snag those painful INTs. It's like we're constantly trying to force touchdowns his way (damn you fantasy leagues). Past that, the team needs at TE are pretty low right now, having used this year's draft to snag Luke Stocker. If depth concerns are here, they can be better resolved through free agency.

Need: Low Projected Draft Spot: None

Offensive Tackle: In 2010 the Bucs had a patchwork offensive line and it worked. In 2011 we had a more stable lineup and it's not working as well. Left Tackle is anchored by Donald Penn, who's actually underrated and does play reasonably well. The problems are 1) the Right Tackle currently anchored by Jeremy Trueblood who is not the best choice for OT, and 2) healthy reliable backups. The Bucs should really consider going after a Right Tackle, which can be had in the mid-rounds of the draft as the more-valued Left Tackles get taken off the boards first.

Need: High Projected Draft Spot: Third to Fifth Rounds

Offensive Guard: Our starters here - Davin Joseph and Jeremy Zuttah (for the most part) - are pretty good. Problem is that Zuttah might be better suited to play Center, especially if/when C Faine departs the team (which I think is this offseason as a FA). Depth concerns would definitely crop up, and it would also be a question of how well our current OGs - Ted Larsen especially - continue to play/stay healthy.

Need: Middle Projected Draft Spot: Seventh Round

Center: Jeff Faine may leave, but Zuttah can slide over from Guard without a problem. The concern here would be for future development. Not really needed.

Need: None Projected Draft Spot: None

Kicker: Connor Barth is still playing well as the FG kicker (with Punter Koenen taking care of kickoffs). All things considered, drafting a Kicker is more of an indulgence than a need, and the Bucs can rely on the UFA part of the draft to sign a decent kicker on the cheap without wasting a pick that could take care of higher needs.

Need: None Projected Draft Spot: None

Defensive End: Bucs just used two top draft picks in 2011 - Clayborn and Bowers - for DEs. Clayborn is proving to be a solid pass-rusher pick and Bowers is now coming off the knee injury concerns and showing signs of being a beast himself. Backup depth is with solid veterans - Bennett and Crowder - and in most respects drafting here is not a priority.

Need: None. Projected Draft Spot: None

Defensive Tackle: The middle of the D-line was the focus of the team's draft two years ago. While Gerald McCoy has shown some injury problems, the other top pick Brian Price has shown to be a decent force in the middle (when he's healthy as well). The biggest concern here is keeping these guys healthy. Regarding the backups, Roy Miller is still young (2009 draftee) and not too shabby but still needs to improve. The other issue is the very recent waiver pickup Albert Haynesworth: once a very feared DT, his last two stops with the Redskins and Patriots were disappointments (oy vey). While he's shown some motor during his brief stop with Tampa, if he stays with the team that questionable motivation has to be fixed big time...

Need: None. Projected Draft Spot: None.

Outside Linebacker: Arguably the biggest disappointment of the defense this season. Quincy Black re-upped with the team and quickly lost the ability to tackle guys. Geno Hayes showed up for 2-3 games and then fell into the Bermuda Triangle. Past Dekoda Watson, the Bucs have no depth with the LB corps. The big argument right now is whether the Bucs should draft a Cornerback first or if all the best CBs are already taken to go after best-available OLB...

Need: Very High. Projected Draft Spot: Second Round.

Middle Linebacker: Getting Mason Foster in this year's draft was considered a good thing. But considering the overall bad play of the LB corps and the defense as a whole... It may be that Foster needs another year or two to really get things going right. The real concern is depth: the LB corps looks pretty meager when counting the roster. Would bringing in another young MLB work, or should the Bucs pursue a decent-value FA as mentor/reliable backup?

Need: Low Projected Draft Spot: Seventh Round.

Cornerback: Welcome to my nightmare, and the nightmare of 20,000 Bucs fans crying in the wilderness. While there's been a combination of factors - the coaches' attempt to shift away from a Cover scheme to a Man scheme, the failure to develop the middle-round picks like Myron Lewis, injuries and off-field woes, etc. - the simple fact is that the CB corps is facing the departure of Ronde Barber to retirement (he can't play forever), and the possibility of Talib facing prison time for a shooting incident back in Texas. There is almost no depth or talent here past Talib (who isn't as good as he needs to be anyway). There's not only a need for best available rookie CB in the First Round, but the Bucs really have to pursue decent talent in the FA to add a veteran with skills... The good news with having a losing season is that Tampa's now looking at a Top 10 pick... and that the way the draft is setting up a good Corner can slip to the Bucs with little fuss...

Need: Very High Projected Draft Spot: First Round

Safety: The other other problem with the defense. In theory, our starters - Tanard Jackson, Sean Jones, Cody Grimm - are supposed to be good. In practice... Jackson needs to avoid off-field distractions, both Jones and Jackson need to re-learn the art of TACKLING, and Grimm is showing the sad habit of season-ending injuries. The bigger problem is that the Bucs' needs elsewhere - Corner, OLB, ROT, RB - may keep the Bucs from drafting high enough for a reliably good Safety to fix our woes here. On the other hand, the drafting of Safeties in recent years has not been a priority across the whole league, so the odds of good ones slipping down isn't too frightening. The Bucs should consider an aggressive FA push to find a value veteran as well...

Need: High Projected Draft Spot: Fifth to Sixth Rounds

Punter: The Bucs already have Michael Koenen, the BEST FREE AGENT SIGNING IN TEAM HISTORY (kinda: Hardy Nickerson was more Plan B than Free Agent so...). No need.

Need: None. Projected Draft Spot: None.

SO there we have it. Bucs should be looking at this kind of draft:

First Round: Cornerback

Second Round: Outside Linebacker

Third Round: Right Offensive Tackle

Fourth Round: Traded

Fifth Round: Running Back

Sixth Round: Safety

Seventh Round: Best available value pick

Compensatorys: Depends on what we get.

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Very detailed but concise, good for our mocking purposes.

"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."

by ct17 on Dec 14, 2011 11:46 PM EST reply actions  

We could take a good prospect at MLB (Kuechly maybe if the top 2 cbs are gone) and slide foster to Will

Rounds 1 and 2 had better go CB/LB or LB/CB. I’m hoping LaMichael James is still around when we pick in the 3rd. I agree with moving Zuttah over to C, but then LG becomes a bigger need than RT, and I’d really, really like to jettison Trueblood. Oh well, can’t do everything in one year. We’re likely stuck with him for 1 more year.

We have way more major holes than picks. I wouldn’t mind a trade down for more picks, and we’d better hit free agency hard this offseason.

Yugly.

by aakks on Dec 15, 2011 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

I think the Bucs prefer keeping Foster at MLB

I guess we gotta see who the next Head Coach is and what the defensive scheme’s gonna be…

Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!

by witty on Dec 15, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Word

Kuechly’s a tackling machine, and he’s got the perfect speed and field awareness to be an ideal MLB in the Tampa Two. Of course, depending on staff changes, the scheme may very well be changed- though I have to think we’ll still be running a 4-3 variant.

Seven straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.

by RookTakesYou on Dec 16, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Scheme changes with a new staff would completely throw a wrench in it

but considering our dline I think we’re looking at a similar (but hopefully more competent) defense. I just have a hard time believing we’d change to a 3-4 or anything so drastic after drafting an entire dline.

Yugly.

by aakks on Dec 17, 2011 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

What happened to building around Freeman??

6 picks in the first 3 rounds over the last 2 years. That’s what has been used on D. In the same span 1 second round pick(WR Benn) has been used on O. That is not building around the franchise QB like they said after he was drafted. We have been throw talent at the D and it’s still absolutely horrible. Mean while we leave Freeman to play with late round talent and players with character issues. I wonder why he’s struggling this year? How about throw more talent around Freeman and see if all of those picks we’ve spent on D get any better??

I would spent the first rounder this year on Offense and commit to Freeman. I would go with either OL/WR/RB.

O-line: We could use upgrades at RT and LG I’ve seen one “Franchise” LT in the draft so far but the other projected ones more like Stud RT’s. There are some great guards but we will be drafting to early for a G

WR: We have Mike Williams,Benn, and a couple Slot WR’s. A classic #1 would fit nicely with this group and force players like Williams to play better or loss his starting spot.

RB: We have Blount who is a monster but his style requires a second starting RB not just a 3rd down back. It’s like when we had Alstott he was best with Dunn to keep him fresh and D’s tired. Blount will be out of football in 2 years if he isn’t splitting carries plain and simple.

Right now I think our D is becoming a “Money Pit” with high draft picks. They should add some free-agents to patch holes while we see if those high picks develop into all-pro defensive players.

by Pirate25 on Dec 15, 2011 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

Considering the failures on defense, say to say there are needs there that outrank offense

especially considering 1) the Bucs are still not stopping the run well, and 2) the secondary is weak and getting weaker with Ronde’s eventual departure and Talib facing jail time next season.

to be fair it would have been nice if the Bucs drafted the likes of OT and RB higher the last couple of years, but we had a solid line working and still do with high draft picks like Davin Joseph and with nice FA finds like Donald Penn. In a better world, I would love to see the Bucs trade a few spots down from their inevitable Top-Ten draft spot so they can pick up an extra Second Rounder so they can take care of the CB first, and then see about an OT and OLB in the Second, freeing up a decent RB pick in the Third (we have the Third, right, it’s the Fourth Rounder we’ve traded away…).

Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!

by witty on Dec 15, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on all counts

Seven straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.

by RookTakesYou on Dec 16, 2011 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Freeman is struggling

because he is a below average NFL QB. The D is a money pit because the Bucs GM/staff are terrible talent evaluators. Other than Clayborn, not one draft choice has been good…imo.

by akbrown15 on Dec 18, 2011 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

What?

Freeman showed last year that he can be an above average QB, and he has all the tools to do so. This year is just a down year. Everyone says his mistakes so far are correctable.
Terrible talent evaluators? The McCoy and Price picks were both praised by experts when they happened. I’m sorry they couldn’t predict injuries on them. When both play, they show good play. If they can stay healthy, the sacks will most likely come.

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Dec 18, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

P.S. anyone got a good idea what kind of compensatory picks the Bucs will get?

I know, I get a little pissy about wanting to know the math on figuring out comp picks. I know it’s related to the value of FA lost compared to FA signed. Considering the Bucs didn’t pick up many FAs this off-season (just punter for the most part) and lost a few players to FA otherwise, I’m really hoping we get some high comp (4th Round plz plz plz) picks out of this.

Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!

by witty on Dec 15, 2011 3:56 PM EST reply actions  

I will have the final lists in a few weeks

But I preliminarily have the Bucs as a zero. You signed Koenen, you lost Ruud. No other players qualified for the equation. Cadillac Williams signed with the Rams for the veteran minimum.

"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue."

by ct17 on Dec 15, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Curse you Rams!

…sniff… but we need more picks!

(tries the big-eyed kitty look from the Puss-In-Boots movie)

Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!

by witty on Dec 16, 2011 8:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't see why you don't think Bucs would address RB until the 3rd round

if a good RB is there, they should get him. Blount’s good but a 2nd RB could really help this offense and help Freeman get back on track. Yeah, you guys need an LB and 2 CB’s real bad, but unless you guys are going to draft for need (which is a terrible way to draft) I don’t think its so easy to say that you’ll go CB round 1, LB round 2, then RB round 3. It could just as easily be RB, CB, LB or LB, RB, CB. Its pretty naive (and I don’t mean that offensively) to expect your team will address your needs like this

C'mon, join us, there's plenty of koolaid on the Broncos bandwagon for everyone!

by DBroncs1414 on Dec 16, 2011 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

RB is a far, far lower need than CB and LB

Ronde is likely retiring. Talib might be going to Jail. And we needed a corner even with those 2. Our best lineback is rookie Mason Foster. Hayes and Black are really, really bad. This team desperately needs more defense, and there are some great corners and lbs in the first 2 rounds. All we really need at RB is a good 3rd down back. They can be found in later rounds much easier. I hope we don’t see RB in the first 2 rounds short of an extreme BPA scenario.

Yugly.

by aakks on Dec 16, 2011 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I went with OT in the 3rd Round because our need for improving the O-line is also higher than getting a RB

seriously, though. I would love to see the Bucs trade down and pick up Second or Third Round drafts to fill the holes we have.

Time to shamelessly plug my book and short story!

by witty on Dec 16, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I can buy OT in the 3rd round

I could also buy doubling up on CB, LB, or grabbing a S.

I would also have no problem trading down for more picks.

Yugly.

by aakks on Dec 17, 2011 7:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it isn't a big need

but to draft a CB early just to draft a CB likely won’t happen, unless Claiborne falls to you guys. Same thing with LB. Its easy to say that as a fan but it likely won’t happen like that. That’s just the nature of the draft.

C'mon, join us, there's plenty of koolaid on the Broncos bandwagon for everyone!

by DBroncs1414 on Dec 17, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Well done witty

If James is available in the 3rd, I’d take him instead of O-line, and I agree with aakks that if both Claiborne and Kirkpatrick are off the board when we pick in the first that Kuechly would be our best choice (flip Foster to Will, and pick up a Sam in FA).

And yeah, it’d be great to trade down and pick up some extra picks if the opportunity presents itself.

Seven straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.

by RookTakesYou on Dec 16, 2011 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

Yea Lamichael James would be awesome in the 3rd

For some reason,Right now, if both Kuechly and Kirkpatrick were available(Claiborne gone of course), I would take Kuechly. I just have a gut feeling he will do very well in the NFL. I do know that gut feeling are not always the best thing though.

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Dec 17, 2011 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

It's hard to imagine Kuechly won't do well in the NFL

His stats from college are eye-popping, and he was playing for a pretty poor team. Butkus Award winners have a history of doing well also- there are exceptions (Aaron Curry), but look at some of the other recent recipients: Von Miller, Rolando McClain, Paul Posluszny, Patrick Willis.

Claiborne and Kalil are the only two players I would definitely pick above Kuechly to the Bucs. Kirkpatrick might inch above him if he has a great combine, but it would be tough to say no to Kuechly if he’s available.

Seven straight losses and counting- time to go, Raheem.

by RookTakesYou on Dec 17, 2011 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you serious about firing Rahim Morris ??
I guess we gotta see who the next Head Coach is and what the defensive scheme’s gonna be…

by ENsDad27 on Dec 17, 2011 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

Well the team has regressed this year,

and with all the talent the Bucs have, that shouldnt happen. Sooner or later you have to blame coaching. The team is undisciplined as heck, a lot of penalties everygame and guys are out of position all the time.

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Dec 18, 2011 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

That trip to England seemed like the point where everything fell apart

You guys were looking good before that game but afterward….. Surprised that Morris has fallen so fast, last year he was next great young coach.

by ENsDad27 on Dec 18, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

2010 was the anomaly....

….Bucs didn’t beat a winning team.

by akbrown15 on Dec 18, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Beat the saints

but they had nothing to play for.

Yugly.

by aakks on Dec 18, 2011 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Even before England though,

The Bucs didnt look very good at all against Detroit(the score was closer than the actual game was), Fell down by 20 to the Vikes in that game, and Barely beat the Colts on MNF thanks to a ton of penalties. The fire Raheem bandwagon wasn’t as big then because they were still 4-2. Point is, besides the Falcons, Saints, and Packers games, the Bucs have not looked that good all season.

No matter how much they are hyped, my teams always find a way to disappoint.

by thedudeofdudes on Dec 18, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  


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