Winners And Losers From Barkley's decision
For weeks, even months, fans of teams in need of a franchise QB have been salivating over the number of options to pick from in round 1 of the 2012 draft. While Andrew Luck has been the consensus #1 pick in 2012 for nearly a full calender year - ever since he announced he would return to school - Matt Barkley had established himself as a top 10 pick. While Robert Griffin III had a phenomenal season, capped off by a Heisman trophy win, many still considered Barkley to be the 2nd best QB prospect on the board. Unfortunately for teams seeking a new signal-caller, Barkley is headed back to college. Here are the top winners and losers from today's decision:
Robert Griffin III - Assuming the Heisman trophy winning QB declares (a matter still very much up in the air), he immediately becomes the unanimous #2 QB on the board. Barring a terrible performance at the combine, or teams getting cold feet if Griffin is a bit shorter than expected, Griffin stands to be a top 5 pick. There are even grumblings that he could leapfrog Andrew Luck atop the 2012 board. While that seems a bit extreme - at least right now - there is no doubt Griffin will hear his name called very early on Day 1.
Ryan Tannehill/Landry Jones/Nick Foles - The 2nd tier of QB prospects instantly become 1st round considerations if they weren't before. The draft is very much a good example of the principles of supply and demand. Once Luck and Griffin are gone, teams will get antsy waiting around for the #3 QB to come off the board. It wouldn't surprise me to see one of these guys go much earlier than many think. Tannehill or Jones might even sneak into the top 15.
Minnesota Vikings/St.Louis Rams - Whichever team holds the #2 pick in the draft immediately sees a big demand for their pick. Far more teams need a franchise QB than will be able to find one via the veteran free agent and trade market. Going into the draft, there figures to be at least 4 or 5 teams desperately in need of a long-term answer at QB. The only way to ensure you get a premier prospect (Griffin) is to leapfrog all the other QB-needy teams. One would think the price tag in any trade just went up.
Brian Hoyer/Matt Flynn - Young veteran QB's buried behind superstars. Both Hoyer (restricted) and Flynn (unrestricted) will be free agents at the end of the year and both figure to be options for teams who will be unable to get Luck or Griffin. Flynn seems almost certain to leave the Packers and Hoyer could probably be pried free from New England for the right price. With one less young QB option available, these guys could see an increase in the demand for their services.
Kyle Orton - As sad as it might sound, Orton will most likely be the best "established" veteran QB available in free agency. It's possible the Chiefs decide to keep him around, but they probably won't be alone in bidding for Orton. He could provide a good 1 or 2 year stopgap for a team who doesn't want to reach for a 2nd or 3rd tier guy in the draft.
Losers:
Seattle Seahawks - Beyond the Pete Carroll/USC connection, the Seahawks seemed like a pretty good landing spot for Barkley. Their offense would have been a good fit for him and they are arguably a franchise QB away from being a serious NFC West contender. Seattle has been winning too much lately to have been in position to draft Barkley, but they won't even have the chance to trade up for him now. Furthermore, the increased demand for 2nd tier guys could put the Seahawks in a tough spot if they end up drafting in the middle of the 1st round. Do they reach for a QB? Do they wait til round 2 and take a lesser prospect and hope for the best? Tarvaris Jackson isn't the answer and Pete Carroll needs to find a better QB if he wants to stick around for awhile
Washington Redskins - The Redskins have needed a QB since the days of Mark Rypien. They have missed on three 1st round QB's since Rypien (Heath Shuler, Patrick Ramsey, Jason Campbell) and were in prime position to get either Griffin or Barkley. Now they will have to try to trade up to get get Griffin - not as good of a system fit as Barkley would have been- or settle for a 2nd rounder (or pass altogether).
Miami Dolphins - Pretty much the same story as Washington. The Dolphins aren't too far away from being a contender but need a better QB than Matt Moore. Few teams have invested as little in the QB position as the Dolphins. Since 1990, the Dolphins have only drafted 7 QB's. They waited too late to find an heir to Hall of Famer Dan Marino and have missed on questionable 2nd rounders John Beck, Chad Henne and Pat White. It's tough to see the Dolphins being able to win the AFC East with their endless parade of journeymen and fringe starters.
Cleveland Browns - Depending on whether or not Mike Holmgren, Tom Heckert and Pat Shurmer believe in Colt McCoy, the Browns could have been a player for Barkley. With Griffin almost certainly off the board by the time the Browns are on the clock, McCoy probably survives another year as Cleveland's starter.
Who are your big winners and losers from Barkley's decision?
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What is the perception of Hoyer around the league?
As a Pats fan, I’ve seen a lot of encouraging flashes. He’s looked better in his opportunities than Cassel ever did. But there’s a big difference between a better than expected back up and a viable QB prospect. What do you think teams would offer?
the thing with that though is everyone knows what happened with Cassel
whether or not it’s deserved, Hoyer will be downplayed due to the connection to the Pats franchise
Yeah
Its cause of Matt Cassel and that Hoyer plays for the Pats. Thats why he’s getting all the hype.
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Gotta be the 2nd tier QBs
Just like last year, when Luck staying in school allowed a ton of guys to fly up draft boards with increased attention. Would guys like Locker, Ponder, and Gabbert have been picked where they were had QBs not been at an almost insatiable demand last year?
This year’s 2nd tier should get a lot of focus.
The only difference I can see from ‘11 to ’12 is that where Luck and RG3 will probably dominate the discussion, last year’s QB class was always in flux in regards to who was the best.
I agree.
I wouldn’t say RG3 was the biggest winner, since he had a shot to go before Barkley anyway.
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It's a tie
I think Griffin III and the team with the second pick are equally winners. Griffin because he is now clearly the second best QB and the team with the second pick because someone like Washington or Miami might be willing to give up a ton to get him.
Sucks for the teams that don't need a QB, because that's one more spot that a team that would've taken Barkley go ahead and take
another player that those teams could have used.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 23, 2011 9:12 AM EST reply actions
Yup
It slides everyone behind him up in the draft. Its starting to get even more interesting as a draft: the draft order is far from set since teams are winning (Colts) and the strength of schedule tie-breaker is still in flux, plus the end of the bowl season and the combine always changes our perceptions of some players before its over.
by carolinapillpusher on Dec 23, 2011 10:54 AM EST reply actions
Who is the biggest winner from Barkley's decision?
Potentially The St.Louis Rams. With The Colts win against Houston; Barkley returning to USC, and several teams needing a QB, The Rams could be close to taking advantage where the supply of QB’s is lower, and the demand is high. If The Rams find themselves in the #1 slot; let’s just say they will have a lot of interesting offers.
Adam Schefter said the asking price might go up to
3 1sts and 2 2nds….or even 4 1st round picks. Ridiculous.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 23, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
That Is Just
Hard to comprehend! Even with the new rookie wage scale; who would give up that much for one player ? 3 1st round picks and 2 2nds? 4 1st round picks? Jesus Christ!
So with the Colts winning
This becomes very interesting!
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what about other potential #1 overall picks?
I’d say Matt Kalil just validated his decision to come out. Lets say a team like the Vikings get the #1 pick. Do they sit at #1 and trade down to say…#3 overall, or do they stay at #1 and take Kalil cuz they’re not dumb enough to think that the team drafting #2 will pass on him.
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by manraj7 on Dec 23, 2011 11:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
wait another year for what?
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by Rorschach44 on Dec 24, 2011 7:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Redskins
They missed on three 1st round QBs because Ramsey and Campbell had no business being in the first round to begin with.
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