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Christian Ponder NFL Draft Scouting Report

Christian Ponder

6'3, 227 pounds | Quarterback | Florida State

Accuracy:Ponder has very good accuracy in the short passing game.  He has the ability to throw his target open, allowing them to gain extra yardage after the catch.  Ponder has good ball placement but his questionable arm strength impacts his intermediate accuracy.  In the long range passing game, Ponder is inconsistent but has shown he can deliver a nice bucket pass.  I do have concerns about his deep accuracy but feel confident he can be an effective down the field passer.  Ponder is impressive when it comes to delivering an accurate ball on the move.  His accuracy can be attributed to his commitment to setting his feet and body towards his target.  From my evaluations, Ponder is the most consistent and accurate passer in this quarterback class. 

Arm strength:This is the area of most concern for Ponder.  While watching the film his throws had a tendency to float to the target.  It was evident on the 10-12 yard outs and hitch patterns because defensive backs routinely were in a position to make a play on the football.  The ball just appears to take a long time to get to the target with little zip.  There were also several deep balls that were under thrown; he may struggle to hit speedy wide receivers on streak patterns.  All these observations were in 2010 games but when I put on a 2009 game I noticed a lot more zip on his throws.  This season he battled an elbow injury that could have impacted the power he was able to generate.  Overall, after looking at the tape I feel that Ponder has an average arm but can make NFL throws.

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Decision making: Ponder possesses an excellent feel for the quarterback position.  He has a lot of savvy in his game especially when executing screen plays.  His ability to effectively decoy on screens allows for his target to pick up an extra couple yards.  Ponder was calm and collected as he made his pre snap reads and showed he could identify potential blitzes.  I was pleased to see that Ponder was comfortable going through his progressions.  He routinely set and reset his feet while going across the field looking to his secondary targets.  While a lot of quarterbacks tend to lock on to their primary target, Ponder is able to influence the defense with his head and eyes.

Field vision:Ponder does a good job diagnosing what the defense is trying to throw at him.  He has the presence to identify pre snap alignments and potential blitzers.  After the snap he is comfortable going across the field with his progressions.  He doesn’t panic when his first read is covered and quickly looks to his secondary reads.  The most important skill Ponder possesses is the way he anticipates his throws.  He gets the ball quickly out of his hands and before his target makes their break.  He trusts that his wide receivers will run the correct route.  His anticipation is going to be the key to his NFL success because of his limited arm strength.  While he does a nice job reading the defense this is still an area he could improve.  In the past, he has shown that he will make poor decisions and force a ball or two.  Overall he does a nice job processing post snap information.

Mechanics: Florida State’s offensive system allowed Ponder to get comfortable taking snaps from under center.  On his drop back, Ponder takes solid balanced steps while keeping his head on a swivel.  He holds the ball tight to his frame and above his breast plate which avoids wasted motions and results in a quick release.  Ponder does a great job setting his feet and body towards his target which allows him to deliver an accurate football.  The one word that describes Ponder is consistency as he regularly has sound technique.

Pocket awareness:
Ponder is calm and unflappable under pressure.  He feels the rush and can move around the pocket while remaining focused down the field.  Ponder does a good job resetting his feet and body after he is forced to navigate the pocket.  Defensive coordinators also need to be concerned with Ponder’s ability to use his feet to pick up yardage.  He has the athletic ability to escape the pocket and pick up big chunks.

Games Viewed: Maryland, Miami, UNC, Miami ’09, UNC ‘09


Final word:I really like Christian Ponder as an NFL quarterback prospect.  He doesn’t have the physical attributes like others in this draft but he has a better feel for the game.  The things that will really hold him back are his arm strength and injury history.  But overall he has the accuracy, fundamentals, and anticipation to succeed as an NFL quarterback.  At this point I would only select Ryan Mallett and Blaine Gabbert ahead of Ponder and that is due to their upside.  Ponder is a 2nd or 3rd round talent that is more polished but possessing less potential.  However, he has the tools to be a successful quarterback in the NFL.

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Ponder seems like he's safest QB in the draft

I dunno where he’ll go but I don’t think its out of the question for him to be drafted in the 20’s by a team trading up.

I’d say he’s a great fit in San Fran.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 7, 2011 12:19 PM EST reply actions  

I agree w/ the fit for SF.. he has ideal skills for a west coast offense.

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by Jon Dove on Feb 7, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he would work really well with Harbough too.

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by Nole93 on Feb 7, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Totes

Both accounts, QB is the one position that teams seem comfortable reaching for across the board. I can see a team like SF or someone moving up late in the first to grab him. The Packers and the Steelers (the Jets too for that matter) don’t really have addressable holes late in the draft and they’d probably just be content to get an extra player.

by Omar Little on Feb 7, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Bills at 34 maybe?

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by MattRichWarren on Feb 7, 2011 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

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by Michael_Necci on Feb 7, 2011 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

we could see a jimmy clausen type drop for quarterbacks such as Locker, Mallett, Newton, and Gabbert. There is just a lot of unknowns w/ this quarterback class

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by Jon Dove on Feb 7, 2011 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

Ponder's going to make someone very happy.

I have him as my “most NFL ready” quarterback into the draft- and it’s not really even close. All of the other guys are based on “potential” and have either underperformed (Locker, Gabbert, etc, etc) or have skill sets that might not transfer to the NFL (Mallett, Newton, etc, etc). You know what you’ll get with Ponder.

by Richard Hill on Feb 7, 2011 1:15 PM EST reply actions  

Really?

Would you say that about Newton or Gabbert if Josh McDaniels or Charlie Weis were coaching them in New England? Cam Newton and Ryan Mallet have the best NFL ready arms in my opinion.

Thoughts on Ponder: In the Senior Bowl game, struggled with accurracy on the insde breaking route, the 9 and the 9 fade routes. (He consistently under threw Leonard Hankerson). Displayed average arm-strength on the deep out route. Ponder will have trouble completing passes when DB’s are in preess-man at the NFL level. Huge durability concerns.

Looks like a talked up system QB coming out of one of the football factories to me. Ponder is best suited to be a West Coast run around to make plays QB. A 3rd rd. or 4th rd. pick at the earliest to me. Ponder will probably develop into servicable backup and start some games in a pinch. His physical tools limit his upside.

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by Ravens One on Feb 7, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ponder struggles with the deep ball...

…but you can teach strength with weight room time. You can have NFL-ready strength with below-NFL level intelligence and decision making. I think Mallett and Newton struggle with that.

Yes, other quarterbacks have higher upside than Ponder- but if you asked me to put all of the quarterbacks in the draft on a field with a prototypical offense (Patriots/Colts/Steelers/Saints/Packers, not Eagles or Titans), I’d take Ponder. If you were the Eagles, Dolphins, Jaguars, Redskins, etc that value mobile quarterbacks, I’d go with Newton, but not if you want a typical offense.

by Richard Hill on Feb 7, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Method to my madness

I put McD, Charlie Weis and even Dick Curl in this conversation for a reason. RH, you talk about the young QB’s being ready right now and I talk about what they will be given stucture and good to great coaching. Does Tom Brady develop without Weis and Belichick to become an all-time great? The answer for me is no.

I just love these kinds of conversation that leave out the most important aspects of playing QB in the NFL at a high level——the ability to make throws on an NFL route tree. Do you want a game manager type or a prospects with the raw physical skills that tell when you watch them play……..all the physical tools are there. You think Ponder’s ceiling is higher than I do, okay. I saw Jimmy Clausen, Tony Pike, Tim Tebow, Dan Lefevour and Colt Mcoy as limited passers at the NFL level coming out in the 2009 draft. We both know how all those players faired in 2010. The eye in the sky……… never lies.

by Ravens One on Feb 8, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I'm not high on any of the quarterback prospects in this draft...

…I just think that at the end of the day, Ponder is the most NFL-ready and will have the most immediate success. He has lower upside than the other players, so if you have the benefit of sitting the quarterback for a couple seasons behind a veteran, then go with Gabbert, but if you need a rookie QB from day one, Ponder presents excellent value in the 2nd-3rd round as a game managing starter as you rebuild the franchise and wait for a real quarterback with upside to emerge in the draft.

Teams need foundations before getting a quarterback. That’s just the way it is. If I’m rebuilding through the draft, I take Ponder and rebuild the roster and 3-4 years down the road, I take the best QB in the draft so he’s not starting with nothing. Put Gabbert or Locker or Mallett on the field with nothing and they’ll produce nothing. By taking Ponder, you can put other pieces on the field.

by Richard Hill on Feb 8, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Great point

Might I ask if Matt Cassel would be Ponder in your example and a new guy would be the way to go in a year or two for the Chiefs?

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by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 8, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually think Cassel is an above average QB...

…and not just a game manager. He definitely showed improvement this season with a tight end (Moeaki), a running game (Jones + Charles) and a solid receiver (Bowe, sometimes). He also benefited from a solid offensive line. If the Chiefs get another solid receiver and another lineman (or two), you’ll see Cassel in the upper echelon of quarterbacks.

I don’t think he’ll ever be in the category of Manning, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger [maybe Matt Ryan in a year or two], but I definitely see him in the next tier with Flacco, Cutler, Eli Manning, Schaub and Romo. Cassel’s the guy who can have a great influence on the game (in a positive or negative way), but he’ll never take over the game.

If the Chiefs are okay with that and compensate with increased talent to maximize his positive impacts/game, then he’ll be fine as the franchise quarterback. If you leave the offense as it is, Cassel will remain a frustrating quarterback with flashes of great performances and periods of awful plays.

by Richard Hill on Feb 9, 2011 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Just a little bit of a contradiction?
If the Chiefs get another solid receiver and another lineman (or two), you’ll see Cassel in the upper echelon of quarterbacks

I don’t think he’ll ever be in the category of Manning, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, Brees, and Roethlisberger [maybe Matt Ryan in a year or two], but I definitely see him in the next tier with Flacco, Cutler, Eli Manning, Schaub and Romo. Cassel’s the guy who can have a great influence on the game (in a positive or negative way), but he’ll never take over the game.

I see Matt Cassel as a career game manager. The playoff game against the Ravens convinced me, even with playmakers around him, he will still come up short. There are 3-4 plays in a game where if the QB makes that throw he defines himself as the guy. The Matt Cassel I have seen falls short of those traits and physical atrributes.

by Ravens One on Feb 9, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm looking at Game Managers...

…like Garrard, Campbell, Fitzpatrick, Sanchez, etc. Here’s a conversion table:

Manager + 2 Receiving Weapons = Tweener + 1 Receiving Weapon = Elite + 0 Receiving Weapons.

Give Cassel another WR, next to Bowe and Moeaki, and he’ll put up great numbers.

by Richard Hill on Feb 9, 2011 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

No problem with his arm strength

I’ll blame it on injuries, because watching the Senior Bowl he had good zip on his passes. Better than anyone else there except maybe Locker.

He definitely has the experience down. It feels to me like he has been at Florida State forever, I thought he took over for Charlie Ward.

by ct17 on Feb 7, 2011 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

He blew it badly on the first throw though

Underthrew it soooo much.

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by See Jay on Feb 7, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I love Ponder's mechanics.

Quick and snappy throws.

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by Fearless Frog on Feb 7, 2011 3:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Incredibly intelligent guy

Has all of the intangibles. I would love to have him on my team, but with Matty Ice hopefully being around for a while, Ponder will unfortunately be on the other sideline.

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by sportsfan4life2012 on Feb 7, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Colt Mccoy with better decision Making?

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by 4QB on Feb 8, 2011 1:44 AM EST reply actions  

Questions about arm strength?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Jar435rnc&feature=feedf_more

That DE plays on Sunday BTW. A healthy Ponder has plenty of arm for the NFL. It is definitely not elite, but he can make every throw without question.

The real issue with drafting Ponder is can he stay healthy? Can he change his mentality on the field and protect his body? If injuries weren’t a concern in football I think Ponder is the top QB prospect in this draft. We’ll find out in time though.

Cam Newton and Jake Locker have bust written all of them IMHO. I’ve seen athlete after athlete come and go at the QB spot in the NFL. You have to be able to handle the mental side of playing QB in the NFL just as much as you need to have that cannon of an arm.

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by moneyNOLE24 on Feb 8, 2011 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, this video proves an excellent point: he clearly has the potential to sling it a little bit

Ponder or Kaepernick in 2011? I mean, we've gotta take one of them, right?
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by kmb8488 on Feb 8, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That wasn't a very powerful pass...

…and I’m pretty sure an above average NFL CB would have intercepted, or at least knocked it away. Not very much zip on the pass- but it was perfect for what was needed. As I said, he’s going to make some team very happy if he can sit on the bench for a season and improve his arm strength.

by Richard Hill on Feb 9, 2011 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously?

That was a ball thrown on target 55 yds in air from a QB on the run throwing across his body while being chased out of bounds by an NFL DE.

 I’m pretty certain that throw speaks for itself.

by moneyNOLE24 on Feb 9, 2011 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Was he supposed to rope that thing in there from 55 yards out?

Not sure where your criticism is coming from here. It looked like a solid NFL-caliber throw to me.

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by kmb8488 on Feb 10, 2011 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Really hoping Miami trades down and nabs Ponder

Our new OC is all about accuracy and decision making, and Ponder certainly fits that bill. I don’t really care if he lacks elite arm strength as long as he can make all the necessary NFL throws.

Ponder’s accuracy and intelligence remind me of Joe Montana. Unfortunately, his injury history also reminds me of Joe Montana. Crap …

Ponder or Kaepernick in 2011? I mean, we've gotta take one of them, right?
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by kmb8488 on Feb 8, 2011 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

A QB reminding you of Joe Montana is a BAD thing?

Maybe I’m biased because I’m a 49er fan, but I’d be thrilled to get another Joe Montana as a QB>

by brundylop on Feb 19, 2011 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  


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