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The Clay Matthews Effect on the 2011 NFL Draft

I think we've all seen the NFL and the copy cat league it is known for. Clay Matthews has drawn a lot of credit for the Packers recent success, including their Super Bowl victory. His dominance was unmeasurable. Think about what the Packers gave up to get him in the 09' draft. An early 2nd rounder and 2 early 3rd round picks. At the time it was a lot to give up for a team that missed the playoffs. Now look at the payoff! Ted Thompson is hailed as a genius to foresee what Clay Jr. would become.

The Clay Matthews Effect- the belief that a pass rush LB can dominate a game from multiple spots on the field and have a direct effect on the overall outcome of the game.

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How many teams right now are thinking that there are no franchise QB's in this draft? There could be a few. Now think about how many teams believe that if they just get that pass rusher they are set and ready for a playoff/Super Bowl run, look what it did for Green Bay. Think Clay Matthews, then consider that Von Miller is the most hyped/talented 3-4 rush LB in the draft. If the Bills are planning on taking Von Miller and some other teams behind them don't think there is a franchise QB in this draft, then a trade up scenario becomes a serious reality.

The following teams may be in the running for trading up to the #1...Bills, Cardinals, 49ers, Texans, Patriots, and the Chargers. The Patriots, Chargers, and Texans already have the franchise QB, and they also have the ammo to move up to the #1, they just need a Clay Matthews type player.  The Bills and 49ers may think they can get to the playoffs with Ryan Fitzpatrick  and Alex Smith, if they just had a dominating pass rusher on the opposite side of the ball.

Can you imagine the Patriots or Chargers with a dominating pass rusher?? Yikes! What about the Texans! These teams have the picks to get this deal done. I know, Belicheck doesn't trade down? Do you think he's tired of dominating the NFL without winning another Superbowl? Do you really think that he is just gonna keep playing the trade down game?

The only thing that these teams need is a dominant pass rusher, and you saw what the Clay Matthews Effect did for the Packers. I can just imagine the discussions between coaches, owners, and GM's right now, "if only we had a dominant pass rusher like Clay Matthews we could...", or in the Patriots and Chargers case, "if only we had taken Clay Matthews in the 09' draft...".

The Cardinals have a potentially dominating defensive line heading into next year with Dan Williams, Campbell and Dockett. What would their defense become if they get a Clay Matthews type pass rusher?

So why not trade up to the #2 with the Broncos? Well, the first reason would be that maybe they don't want to trade out of that spot. If you get the choice of taking Dareus or Peterson, and you already had a couple QB's on your roster, would you trade out of that pick? The other reason to trade up to the #1 is the very fact that many teams may try to target the #2 pick all the while another team may be planning on leap frogging it up to the #1. This forces even the Bills to have to investigate moving up, unless they are comfortable with taking their chances.

Call me crazy, but to me this scenario playing out is high on the probability list. Two things must happen for the Clay Matthews Effect to occur. First, a team must believe that Von Miller will be as dominating as Clay Matthews. Second, that team must believe that the Bills are ready to take him at the #3 spot.

For those of you Panthers fans that are Newton/Gabbert lovers...if the Panthers put it out there that they were going to take one of these fellas, and no one called about a trade,then maybe the Panthers believe they can get their "franchise QB" even if they trade back.

Also, if the Panthers are putting it out there that they are investigating Bowers, I would take that as they are looking at trading down to at least the #5. I would also say they are expecting to pickup a DE other than Bowers. With the Panthers recent history, another DE is being targeted if they are dropping hints that they are interested in Bowers. Think Robert Quinn, Cam Jordan, Ryan Kerrigan, and Aldon Smith.

 

Panthers GM Hurney hinted that no one is calling, well what if that has changed and multiple teams are calling? If teams are sold on Von Miller being a superstar waiting to happen, then a bidding war may ensue if the Clay Matthews Effect takes hold.

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I know, Belicheck doesn't trade down?

Really now.. Last year he traded up and down

How bout Ware? Hali? Harrison? There are more than just 1 good rush LB

Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!

by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 26, 2011 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

but only because you mentioned D. Ware.

by CaliCowboysFan92 on Apr 26, 2011 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point was it's a copy cat league...

and some pretty good teams only need a dominating pass rusher. Also, for those teams drafting early that don’t believe the available QB’s are franchise guys. Better to draft an impact pass rusher that can have a monster impact than a “solid” starter.

by jdough on Apr 27, 2011 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh so its a copy cat league and every 3-4 team switched cause of Matthews

Not to mention every rush OLB is in that position because of Matthews? No.

If you are picking early there is no safe pick.. not QB(Russel) not OLB

Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!

by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 27, 2011 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The league was shifting to 3-4 way before Matthews entered the league.

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by John Stephens on Apr 27, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Last time I checked edge rushers(OLB or DE) have been very valued for a very long time.. but that must be because they KNEW at some point Clay would play OLB

Cassel out, Andrew Luck in!

by BAMFSpecialOps on Apr 27, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clay Matthews is Clay Matthews

there is not another one in this draft.

And I’m pretty sure teams have been coveting pass rushers since the damn of time. Or at least since LT was sniffing yay and breaking legs (probably before that, but who cares).

Clay Matthews is nothing new to the NFL. He’s a great player, might even be having a HOF start to his career. But he’s not having an effect on the league that’s anything new. Not in the least bit.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Apr 26, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Ladanian Tomlinson sniffs yay and breaks legs……..?

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by DBroncs1414 on Apr 27, 2011 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can't tell if that was meant to be a joke...

I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt because being a dick on the internet is overplayed.

That said, if this isn’t a joke, you need to stop making comments on fanposts about pass-rushing OLBs immediately.

I begrudgingly accept that Ladanian Tomlinson has the nickname he has, but he was not the first nor was he the best player to ever be called that.

by GiantNomad on Apr 27, 2011 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Dream Saints 2011 Draft:
1) Ryan Kerrigan
2) Mason Foster
3a) Drake Nevis
3b) Daniel Thomas
7a) Will Hill
7b) Alex Wujciak

by Alex Swift on Apr 27, 2011 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was a joke

Lighten up lol, the irony being not only are they both “LT” but that Tomlinson is far from a crackhead leg breaking pedophile

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by DBroncs1414 on Apr 27, 2011 9:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yes, he does.

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 28, 2011 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clay Matthews is Clay Matthews there is not another one in this draft.

Exactly.

But when was time damned?

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

Green Bay Packers: Super Bowl XLV Champions!!!!

by Omaha Sun on Apr 27, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

when dbroncs tried to make an "LT" joke

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 27, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah he's not too bright

in his mock he had the Raiders taking Van-Dyke at 48

by RyanTheRaider on Apr 27, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think you can insult anyone's intelligence

by their mocking of the Raiders drafts. Its not like the Raiders make sane picks every year and with every pick.

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by Rorschach44 on Apr 28, 2011 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much my exact thoughts

Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
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by John Stephens on Apr 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This thing is hard to follow

And FYI, the Broncos are more then willing to trade down from 2 (they said they like 5 or 6 guys at the top of the 1st, and they can get one and still trade down), and the Bills said “it would have to take rare circumstance” for them to trade down, so you may wanna fact check your theory.

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by DBroncs1414 on Apr 26, 2011 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

For the Bills go both ways

they won’t trade up either

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by DBroncs1414 on Apr 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

The demand for a dominant rush OLB is defintiely increasing...

And I wouldnt be surprised to see the Pats use their 6 billion picks to trade up into the Top 5 to get Miller or Top 10 to get Quinn. Also a Clay Matthhews Effect is the fact that Casey Matthews will likely get drafted higher because of Clay’s success.

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by BlackPack-fan on Apr 26, 2011 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorta like the Maurkice Pouncey effect?

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by John Stephens on Apr 27, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that too,

and that will continue to happen for years to come…being the younger brother of a star will help you w/o a doubt.

"I was looking at my résumé, feeling real fresh today, they rewrite history, I don't believe in yesterday."
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by BlackPack-fan on Apr 27, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why the hell couldn't my older brother get drafted?

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by John Stephens on Apr 27, 2011 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Von Miller is not Clay Matthews.

Clay Matthews is a freak of nature, a monster. He’s like 6’4", 260 lbs or something similar.

Aaron Curry was a bust the moment he took the field.
Draft wishlist: Jake Locker, Ryan Mallett, Marvin Austin, Gabe Carimi, Mason Foster, Stephen Schilling, Demarco Murray.
Free agency wishlist: Peyton Manning, Manny Lawson, LaRon Landry

by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2011 10:24 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

6'3 255 he's listed at.

Close enough.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

Green Bay Packers: Super Bowl XLV Champions!!!!

by Omaha Sun on Apr 27, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Clay was drafted at only 240 lbs...

And he’s put on 15 lbs since then and hasn’t lost any speed. I think Von (246 lbs) can put on 5-10 lbs without losing any of that remarkable speed and be a top-tier pass rusher. You know, he did win the Butkus award and has 28 sacks over the last 2 seasons. That doesn’t mean he will be as good as Clay (I don’t think he will) but Miller is 6’3" 246, and could get up to 6’3" 250 and then he’s virtually the same size as Matthews.

"I was looking at my résumé, feeling real fresh today, they rewrite history, I don't believe in yesterday."
-Kanye West

by BlackPack-fan on Apr 27, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean the LT effect?

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by Willgfass on Apr 27, 2011 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Clearly

It’s the LT effect. Who is this Clay Matthews guy lol. Oh, not a HOF like LT.

Die hard Giants fan since wide Right! I was 5...

by wangstu13 on Apr 27, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Wait,

Aaron Rogers didn’t have that much to do with Green Bay winning the Super Bowl?

I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.

by no1pipelayer on Apr 28, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Pfft.

He was holding us back all year. Clay should have been playing QB as well as LB.

Go Suns, Packers, Jays, and Huskers!

Green Bay Packers: Super Bowl XLV Champions!!!!

by Omaha Sun on Apr 29, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  


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