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I know the "real" offseason hasn't started yet, but this is just a projection of where I think the teams rank. Only going to make one FA prediction: Nnamdi Asomugha to the Philadelphia Eagles.

 

Don't look at me like that, I know its stupid, but hey, I know you're bored of this lockout crap too.

Star-divide

1) Green Bay Packers - You win the Superbowl, you're number 1. They reloaded at WR and shored up their OL, and infused talent into the defense. They're ready to go again. 

2) Pittsburgh Steelers - Can't envision much of a drop off. Strong draft as well. 

3) San Diego Chargers - Redemption! Am I crazy? Yes! But they'll do it! Will go 12-4.

4) Baltimore Ravens - Defense is good for one more year before aging players decline. Emergence of Mt. Cody.

5) New Orleans Saints - Will take the South this year. Added firepower on D to go with explosive OL

6) Philadelphia Eagles - This high because of Nnamdi. Without him, they're in trouble. I think people have Vick figured out. He'll be dangerous, but won't come close to last year's remarkable run. 

7) New England Patriots - They and the Jets beat each other up. Patriots win out the division in a close one. Like 11-5 and 10-6 close.

8) Indianapolis Colts - The OL will keep Peyton (who happens to be good at football) upright, but I think we start to see signs of decline in this team. Fortunately, two of the AFC South teams have young QBs, allowing the Colts to split again with the Texans and take the division.

9) New York Jets - Go 10-6, make playoffs as 5th seed. Sanchise develops, but there a few key pieces that need to be resigned. Team is in trouble, offensively, if Santonio goes.

10) Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Made strides in defense. Josh Freeman's 3rd year will be a ground breaking one. New Orleans is too strong for them to take the division though.

11) New York Giants - Will go 10-6, this time making the playoffs. Philly goes 11-5. They split with Philly, but Philly sweeps Dallas, while the Giants split.

12) Detroit Lions - Will narrowly miss playoffs at 9-7. Huge leap forward for them. Problem is the secondary.

13) St. Louis Rams - Will win the NFC West at 8-7-1. Still a weak division, and has to play the NFC East this year. Still, a winning record is good enough. Bradford makes friends with Greg Salas.

14) Atlanta Falcons - Not buying that they're ready for another division title. Tampa Bay and New Orleans are too strong. Upgrades on offense, but I think they take a step back on defense.

15) Kansas City Chiefs - I think they also take a step back and miss the playoffs by virtue of my projected Chargers resurgence.

16) Dallas Cowboys - The secondary remains a big problem, and their pass rush needs more help across from Demarcus. Dez will emerge as the newest #1 WR, but Dallas still falls behind at 8-8 in the East.

17) Houston Texans - Definitely infused a ton of talent. Can see the DROY coming out of Houston, but a new coordinator on defense + transitioning to new scheme + probably no training camp = problems.

18) Chicago Bears - Bears take a bit of a downturn and the Lions take over 2nd place in the NFC North. By the way, people need to back the fu#k off of Jay Cutler. The dude had a torn MCL and doctors wouldn't let him go back in that game. People question his toughness, they forget the fact that he already plays with diabetes. So, seriously, please STFU. //randomrant

19) Miami Dolphins - I don't see the Dolphins making more of an impact than what they did last year

20) Jacksonville Jaguars - Still Garrard's team, but I think Houston does better than them. Take a bit of a backwards step, but will still challenge Houston for 2nd place

21) San Francisco 49ers - Will make a push for the NFC West crown, but the inability to beat St. Louis and getting swept by the NFC East puts them at 7-8-1.

22) Cleveland Browns - A sleeper pick of mine, they'll have a strong season. The Colt McCoy - Mohammed Massaquoi connection is strong with this one. Did I mention that all people named Peyton are good at football?

23) Seattle Seahawks - They certainly will have a much better OL now that Okung is healthy and they added Carpenter. However, I'm not sure how Whitehurst behind center will do. I have my doubts. Earl Thomas makes the pro-bowl. 

24) Denver Broncos - A huge jump? Yes, but I think that last year was a fluke. They improve by at least 4 games, but I think they get swept by both San Diego and KC.

25) Minnesota Vikings - The best of the cellar dwellers, it'll be a rough going for Christian Ponder, Joe Webb, or whoever the hell is under center

26) Arizona Cardinals - If they snag Kolb, they instantly jump about 10 spots. If not, this spot seems appropriate.

27) Oakland Raiders - Losing Nnamdi essentially means losing the essence of that defense. However, its still got some teeth with Richard Seymour, Rolando McClain, and Stanford Routt.

28) Tennessee Titans - That defense is strong, but could be in trouble if they lose Stephen Tulloch. Jake Locker is not ready for a starting role, so they better get a veteran in there.

29) Washington Redskins - It's a mess in the nation's capital. There are undoubtedly bright spots, and the team is talented, but I can't count how many times last year I said probably the greatest insult you can give a football team - "They aren't even trying."

30) Cincinnati Bengals - The only reason they're above the Panthers is A.J. Green. Still, any team with a new QB is going to struggle. WRs tend to struggle in their rookie years as well.

31) Buffalo Bills - Their defense is going to be much improved in the secondary and with the addition of Dareus, but I seriously have doubts about Aaron Maybin. They needed to upgrade their pass rush as well as their OL. I don't know if they did that.

32) Carolina Panthers - Why are they last? New QB. New head coach. No Steve Smith. OL still needs help. Probably no DeAngelo Williams. That's a recipe for disaster.

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As long as we are over the Raiders

I’m a happy man.

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by DBroncs1414 on May 18, 2011 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Speaking to Houston

has any team ever had a “successful” year after transitioning to the 34? I guess the Texans can’t get much worse on defense, but still…

by rws591 on May 18, 2011 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Packers moved to 3-4 in 09

and went from the 21st D in the league to second. Broncos 1st year as a 3-4 could also be termed succesful, they had a top 10 D. I don’t expect a dominant D from the Texans but if you move to the 3-4 with a successful DC in said scheme, it can work.

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by DBroncs1414 on May 18, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC most teams that switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4

Have a better defense in the first year, was a big story on AP when the Chiefs were switching to the 3-4

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by BAMFSpecialOps on May 18, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’re undervaluing the Colts. The team is actually very young and still full of talent. The biggest weaknessness for the Colts last year were injuries and the O-line. One was fixed via the draft. If a few key people return, the Indy is well position to win a Super Bowl. While I wouldn’t rank them with the Packers, who are crazy deep, they’re at least as good at Pittsburgh and better than New England and Baltimore.

by TrueBlue87 on May 18, 2011 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the Colts had a shot at the Super Bowl in 2012 but they failed to address strong safety and the run d will again be their downfall. If your starting SS is Aaron Francisco, you are not going to the Super Bowl. Period. This may have been the last year they had a real shot because I can’t see Reggie holding it together for more than another year or two.

On the other side of that, I think all the AFC teams are critically flawed and on any given Sunday the Colts may beat any of them, however I have the Saints as the clear #1 going into 2012 followed by the Packers and the Falcons may well be ahead of anyone in the AFC as well.

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by invisibulman on May 19, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take #2

For sure

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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on May 18, 2011 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

14) Atlanta Falcons – Not buying that they’re ready for a division title.

You do realize the Falcons won the NFC South last year.

Unless that’s a major typo and you wanted to write:

14) Atlanta Falcons – Not buying that they’re ready for another division title

Year two is upon us.

by Buffalo for Eternity on May 18, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

yup that's what i meant

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 18, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand why you would rank the Bengals so low and there is good reason, but I honestly think they'll surprise you next year.

That might be my homerism talking, but I think the youth movement going on will be great in the short term as well as the long term.

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by sexsalad on May 18, 2011 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I know I didn't make a popular decision 'round these parts with the bengals so low

but it was because the players that get the most out of training camp and offseason workouts are WRs and QBs. Exit Ochocinco and Palmer, enter Dalton and Green.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 18, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I fully understand why you would rank them near the bottom and I might too if I wasn't a fan of them.

I just think it’s very possible that they’ll shock people this year.

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by sexsalad on May 18, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

In a division with Baltimore and Pittsburgh?

Shock some people no, win a few games probably

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by wangstu13 on May 19, 2011 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

with which QB?

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by John Stephens on May 19, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Little brother, or the rook?

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by Steel Spike on May 19, 2011 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

they both suck

Bengals have talent everywhere but the one position it’s a prerequisite to win. QB.

Only reason I’d agree with Bengals remaining cellar dwellers.

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on May 23, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Diego at #3?

Come on. Their special teams woes contributed to their excellent offensive and defensive stats in that they got the ball back quickly and didn’t technically concede points/yards on defense. They didn’t make the playoffs, and they aren’t the #3 team in the NFL. They’re barely top #10. I think you have the Colts too low, but then again I’m a homer.

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by Ben Savage on May 18, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Barely top 10?

That’s funny. A top offense and a top defense should be top 5. Believe it or not there’s luck in football and luck doesn’t define a team.

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by Drizzzy on May 18, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Diego not making the playoff last year had nothing to do with luck.

As long as Turner is the coach of the Chargers they will continue to decline, he inherited a really good Marty team and they have gotten worse every year since. Choices like sending Drew Brees away and replacing him with Rivers…Don’t get me wrong, Rivers is a VERY good QB, but its no coincidence that Drew Brees has a Super Bowl Ring and Rivers doesn’t (even though Rivers is on a more ‘talented’ football team). As for the running back, Mathews is no Ladainian Tomlinson nor is anyone else in that back field.

Letting Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill sit out for most of the season did what to help this team? I can see how some could say that the front office sent a message to the players like “No one is greater then the team”, but I think the players heard “If you play really well for us you will not be rewarded”.

Right now this team is STACKED with talent on both sides of the ball. They have one of the best Offensive units in the NFL, same with the Defense. However, their Special Teams is “Special” (like Jerry’s Kids) and the people calling the shoots (Spanos / Smith / Turner) are running them into the ground.

This team is noted for slow starts, coming on strong in Nov/Dec, then finishing every season with a wimper in the playoff (if they make it that far). It has nothing what so ever to do with the players either (IMO)…it is the leadership/coaching (or lack of) that is killing em.

When it is all said and done the most notable thing about this team will be there are one of only five teams ever to have a #1 ranked Offense and #1 Defense in the same season, and the ONLY team with a #1 O and D that DID NOT made it to the playoffs.

by DivineGrace on Jun 28, 2011 6:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Woah Jets at 9?

Are you kidding? Do you really think the Chargers are better than a team who made it to the AFC championship game AGAIN even after people said they made to many bad moves in the offseason by not bringing guys back? This is the same thing. People don’t thinkwe can bring back our guys but we are clearly a good enough team to win with them or with new guys.

Muhammad Wilkerson + Kenrick Ellis=
-Greatest two picks of all time
-Sleepless nights for Tommy Bieber

by JetKing55 on May 18, 2011 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

who did you lose to in the AFC Championship? Have you won a Super Bowl in the last 40 years?

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by seton hall and steelers on May 18, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Burn on you JetKing55

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by wangstu13 on May 19, 2011 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok that's just annoying to say but whatever...

I’m just saying that the Chragers are so unproven and random while we have proved ourselves with two championship games reached. And why are you so damn defensive I never said the Steelers don’t deserve their spot geez you’re just annoying.

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by JetKing55 on May 19, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like he had a bad day

Normally he’s a bit less sensitive and antagonistic.

Chargers are chokers. Just like the Cowporks, Bungles, and recently, the Patriots.

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by Steel Spike on May 19, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

who was questioning your offseason moves?

I thought u guys were early favorites for Superbowl game

by vitzeng on May 18, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats horrendous logic

then the pwoer rankings should be exactly how it was last year? that’s effing laughable. if you arne’t aware there’s an offseason in which teams can improve or get worse. Smh…

Oh and the Chargers ahd a much much much much much much much much better offense than the Jets with an actual QB and had a simialr defense.

FACT: There’s a luck factor in football
FACT: It changes drastically year to year
FACT: The Chargers were top 5 in letting the elast amount of yards and were top 5 in scoring points.
Do Jets fans do anything BUT complain?

by Lolmoarpl0x on May 19, 2011 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

top 9 certainly isn't bad

I thought the Jets had a decent draft, but nothing really special. You guys could stand lose Braylon Edwards, Antonio Cromarties, Santonio Holmes, David Harris, and Brad Smith. Each of those guys is an impact player, and each loss hurts.

I think you guys lose the division to the Pats by a game. The only 2nd place team I have in the top 5 is the Ravens, who I project to go 11-5. I have you guys going at 10-6. In fact, you’re the highest 10-6 team I have in these rankings.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 19, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the Chiefs will be a better team this year

What the final W-L shows I’m not sure

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by BAMFSpecialOps on May 18, 2011 8:00 PM EDT reply actions  

92378419238471973410239487-0 would be better haha

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by BAMFSpecialOps on May 18, 2011 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

currently I have the Chiefs missing the playoffs at 9-7

Ravens and Jets take up wildcard spots with SD winning division

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 19, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still don't understand why everyone loves/hypes Kevin Kolb. Whatevs, though

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by 4QB on May 18, 2011 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think he's great, but I think he can be solid

better than skelton, hall, anderson. a happy fitz is a dominant fitz.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 18, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but is he really THAT better? I think he's average and is more a Kyle Orton type than a healthy- on his game Matt Hasselbeck type

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by 4QB on May 19, 2011 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Orton quietly had a very good season

He made Lloyd, a below average receiver, to someone who led the NFL in receiving for quite some time. Orton suffers from his rep.

I think Kolb can be a very solid game manager (nothing more). But that will allow the Cards to contend for the NFC West, which is why I say bump ’em up 10 spots to right around where the Rams would be.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 19, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kolb is a bum

check PFF.

Also, Skelton has upside and could potentially be a solid game manager type QB while Kolb will remove the vertical element of their offense with his noodle arm.

I really think Arizona have a talented enough roster to challenge in the NFC west, but the Rams own the division (no homerism) purely because we have a QB and two Bookend Tackles.

Defense may be suspect for STL, but offensively the nucleus is there to win the division.

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on May 23, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Klob is a bum

Orton>Klob

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by Rorschach44 on May 23, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ravens

I am not sold on the Chargers still until they prove it. Every year they are ranked in the top 5 and every year they disappoint. I think that’s right about where the Ravens fit in. I think you have to put Pitt and GB ahead of us, but we are just as good as the rest. I don’t however agree that we only have one more year of good defense. Will we miss the presence of Ray and Reed when they are gone? Absolutely, but we still have some young guys to build around. Ngata is the best DL in football and Suggs is one of the top OLB in the game as well. I expect Cody to break out,we have a potential shut down corner in Jimmy Smith and the rest of our CB’s are very underrated and all under 28. I would say that is not a bad core to build around. Also Reed is a pretty honest guy and believes he is as healthy as he’s been in the past couple off-seasons and I expect him to play at a pro bowl level for at least another 2-3 years.

by AV23 on May 19, 2011 12:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Also we are very young on offense now and can add some pieces to the D in the next couple years. Not counting Jimmy, I believe we have drafted 7 defensive players in the first round. Two are arguably the best to ever play their positions with Ngata being another potential one and all of them have been to multiple pro bowls except for Duane Starks who was still a good player and key contributor on our super bowl team that was one of the best defenses to step on the field. We haven’t missed yet on a 1st round defensive pick and I would say it’s a safe bet that we will find some replacements.

by AV23 on May 19, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Man I feel bad

Every time we have a power ranking I just go to the bottom to find the Niners.

Kellen Moore is awesome
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by manraj7 on May 19, 2011 1:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Funny thing about what you said for Baltimore is that people outside of our fan base have been saying the same exact thing since 2005, yet the age problem never shows up. Ray will retire far before he can’t go 100% anymore. He has 2 more years left and Reed has stated he could play another 5 years.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 3:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, you have to admit that sooner or later it's going to catch up. (I guess replying to AV23)

I think that year is not next year, but the year after…hence me having the Ravens 4th. And I never said that would affect the way the Ravens played the game. They’ll still be locked and loaded to go, just with new players.

I also find it hard to believe that reed says he has 5 more years given his injury status. Lewis, 2 years MAYBE…LB isn’t exactly a very player friendly position to play, and I don’t care if you’re superman, it’ll take a toll on you.

Then again, I’ve learned never to doubt someone of Lewis’ caliber anyway, so perhaps you’re right.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 19, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also find it hard to believe that reed says he has 5 more years given his injury status. Lewis, 2 years MAYBE…LB isn’t exactly a very player friendly position to play, and I don’t care if you’re superman, it’ll take a toll on you.

Well, both of them are going to retire this year after they win the Superbowl, and I would be perfectly fine with that.

Did Reed show you any indication that he is being affected by injuries last year? I mean shit, the guy basically had a hip replacement, missed the first 6 games and STILL led the NFL in interceptions last year. He himself actually said he could play 10 more years. He feels healthy now.

As for Ray, he stated a few months ago that he will not play past 37, which would be 2 more seasons. Remember, this is Ray fucking Lewis we are talking about here, a top 3 ILB of all time. I think Antonio Pierce being done after 9 years got to you. Ray Ray is superman, and still shows it.

And San Deigo? Holy shit. That team chokes more than anyone. What is so freaking great about them? First of all, they can NEVER beat Baltimore or Pittsburgh, and they will have to go through one of us if they want to live up to that #3 ranking. Their running game is poo poo, and I don’t think their defense will play nearly as good as last year. You should move Baltimore to #3 and put NE, NYJ or NO at #4.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the baltimore stuff, can't disagree with you because im not a baltimore fan.

But I think I still have the right spot for them, based on projected records.

Also, c’mon Malor, don’t you remember my May power rankings from last year? I have to have some sort of twist, based on what I think happens. I knew people were going to shit on the Chargers pick and that’s okay. My reasoning for it stands:

They were number one in offense AND defense for quite some time. That’s without having VJax, Malcolm Floyd, and Ryan Mattews for alot of the season. Add in Bob Sanders, and it fortifies one of the few weak spots on their defense. Their biggest problem was ST, which lost them at least 4-5 games. I think they shored that up.

Last year, I hit on some projections and missed on some:

 I predicted that GB would do well, Balt would do well, Lions would do better, Broncos would suck, Minn would suck, St. Louis would do a little better, KC would do better.

Also predicted that San Fran would win the division and placed the Steelers in the 20’s…whoops.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 19, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're counting on Bob "Walker" Sanders to help?

Your reaching further than a dwarf changing a lightbulb. If he had even played a full season in the last 5 years, I wouldn’t say anything, but the guy has missed more time in the last 3 years than Troy Polamalu and Aaron Smith combined.

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by Steel Spike on May 19, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit...
your You’re reaching further

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by Steel Spike on May 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid Pennsylvania Public School System.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!

at least I caught my own mistake, dick.

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by Steel Spike on May 19, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!

at least I caught dick.

Eww man.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, I don't want to hear about your dreams, okay?

That’s private stuff, homey.

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by Steel Spike on May 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 19, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I think your twist is with teams like ATL and DET.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

One problem i have though is that our D gets called aging while nobody says a thing about Pitt’s D. Hampton-33, keisel-32, smith-35, Hoke-35, Farrior-36, Harrison-33, Clarke-31, Taylor-31 and Polamalu 30 with some big injuries the past couple seasons. Their D has more of their big time contributors that are 30 plus, but somehow it’s our D that’s aging. I think just like us they will find their replacements and already have some of them on the team, but I just don’t see how our D gets called aging all the time and nothing about them.

by AV23 on May 20, 2011 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our D only gets called old because of Ray Lewis who is still playing at a high level. Our only contributors who are 30 plus are Ray-36, Reed-32,Gregg-34 and Redding-30. The rest are in their 20’s so I just don’t understand how we are getting called old?

by AV23 on May 20, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're right, that's pretty unfair

I think what it is, for us non-AFC North fans, is that we consistently see Ray Lewis and Ed Reed as the faces of the franchise, and having seen them play at such a high level for such a long time makes one wonder how much left they have in the tank.

Lewis is more well known than Harrison or Farrior, and Reed = Polamalu in terms of media attention.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 20, 2011 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think a lot of it is the media. You always hear them say that so fans of other teams get that perception as well. People see Ray getting older and think the rest of the D is when it’s really not and still has some superstars on it. No doubt it will hurt when he hangs them up, but I honestly don’t expect much of a drop off. We have a strong organization who has a reputation as one of the best talent evaluators in the league. Like I said before we still have the best D lineman in the game IMO, One of the best OLB’s, a potential lock down CB, and a lot of young solid players. Not to mention an extremely young offense who will only get better with time. I would say we are about as good of a position as you can be in when losing your franchise player soon.

by AV23 on May 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still think there is slight validity to the statement. Ray Lewis is one of the top 3 ILB, and maybe even top 10 defenders of all time. You don’t simply just replace him. Ed Reed is also an elite player who will be tough to replace. It may be only two players, but they are the back bone of your defense (more so Ray).

It reminds me of the Steelers in 2009. They were a great defense, but Troy was their dynamic playmaker. His presence on the field forces teams to alter their game plan, even if he is not 100%. Without him on the field things looked a lot different. They were not bad, just not as great as they usually are. That is significant IMO, because the Steelers and Ravens do not have blowout offenses like the Patriots, Saints, or Packers.

I see a lot of Ravens fans talking about having the youth to replace Lewis, but the talent will never be the same, because Ray was a 1 in a million player.

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by John Stephens on May 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely agree there. It’s impossible to replace arguably the greatest LB to ever play, but at the same time I don’t think we completely fall off the map. I think Ozzie will find another great MLB. Obviously he won’t be Ray, but I’m sure we find an elite one. I think we do have a good young group, but I don’t see Ray’s replacement on the team and my guess is that’s who we draft next year in the 1st round with a much better MLB class. I just get more upset over that we get called old and nobody says anything about you guys. Troy’s been banged up and quite a few of your key contributors are over 30. I believe our teams already have those replacements for those players or will definitely find them, but I just don’t like that we get that tag when it’s really not true. I think both our teams just have a defensive mentality and will always be at the top of the league on that side of the ball until something drastic happens in our organizations. When we lost Reed for the first 6 games we were ranked #1 in passing D. Not saying we are better without Reed because obviously that’s not true, but I just think we got guys who are always ready to step up and make plays.

by AV23 on May 20, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me people call us old all the time. That’s why I usually argue that youth isn’t everything. Just because you have a young team won’t make you good. It seems like veteran leadership and experience are oft ignored by fans. Someone like James Farrior is far from young, but being the signal caller in our defense is pretty damn important. He might get beat occasionally because of his waning speed, but he probably makes a few plays just by being in the right place unlike a young guy who still has things to learn.

As far as those first 6 weeks go, I think that is pretty misleading. I am not going to look up the numbers right now, but I don’t think any of those pass offenses were that great (one was against us without our QB, right?) I do recall that you all had major problems forcing turnovers those first 6 weeks. I am one of those believers that yards per game is the worst popular statistic in football. Things like turnovers and yards per attempt tell a lot better story (stronger correlation to winning).

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by John Stephens on May 20, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do people do this with San Diego every year? Is it some running inside joke that I am not aware of?

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by John Stephens on May 19, 2011 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I always say that the NFL and most people love the CCCP…………….Colts, Chargers, Cowboys, Patriots.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meant to tell you my GF got me seats behind home plate for the game Friday. Awww yeah.

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by John Stephens on May 19, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonderful, maybe you will get to see another game like last night. Stay there for 5 hours, watch us come away with nothing with bases loaded and 1 out. If you’re lucky, you will get to feel the air of about 7 combined wiffs from Luke and Mark.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we do that against the Nats I will cry.

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by John Stephens on May 19, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus they also for some reason think that LT is still making an impact there.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 19, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta at 14?

I also don’t see how our defense took a step back. Besides John Abraham(DE) and possibly Mike Peterson(OLB), our defense is young and will definitely improve as they gain more experience. As long as we get a DE in free agency, I think we’ll have an above average defense. And with the addition of Julio Jones, the defense will have more time to rest and whatnot with the offense, hopefully, staying on the field for longer periods of time, allowing the defense to be more effective.

by saipol on May 19, 2011 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Terrible power rankings.

Just because you have the colts ranked poorly ;)

by RamblinWreck7 on May 20, 2011 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Think about where they will be once Peyton is gone in 2-3 years. Twenty or so would be a compliment to be ranked.

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 20, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

More like 5 to 6.

But we will draft a succesor eventually.

And arn’t these power rankings for the present?

by RamblinWreck7 on May 20, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they were running Painter out there maybe

they’ll likely have a better plan in place 3-5 years down the road. Peyton has mentioned 16 and 18 years in the league (this past season was his 13th) as likely points to call it quits and at the level he’s still playing you can’t call that unrealistic.

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by shake n bake on May 21, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton is overrated : )

"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith

by Mr MaLoR on May 21, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

but the Colts would go from contender to bottom dweller without him

hooray for inconsisency ; )

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by shake n bake on May 21, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was being sarcastic

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by manraj7 on May 21, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is

just tweaking me a bit

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by shake n bake on May 21, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

its true though

Peyton makes the team. If for some odd reason, i.e. he pulls a Lebron and decides to kick it in SF, the Colts could be in the running for Luck. Although I have enough faith in Peyton and the Colts to not let that happen.

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by manraj7 on May 21, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Peyton is running ultra-private workouts with him and the receivers

I don’t think he’s planning on going anywhere.

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by shake n bake on May 22, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

lies

don’t ruin my fantasy.

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by manraj7 on May 22, 2011 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

this!

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by NinjaZX6R on May 22, 2011 3:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once the Skins are able to start talking numbers,

no way he passes up on the $250 million deal Snyder will offer him

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by insertscreenname on May 22, 2011 4:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Washington.

Doubt SF would pay enough for him. And anyway, you don’t want Manning, he’ll ruin your franchise by using up 50% of the cap.

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by insertscreenname on May 22, 2011 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

9 more minutes guys

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by manraj7 on May 20, 2011 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

wonder how the rankings would change if nnamdi became a jet ?

bbi i’m surprised you put the eagles ahead of the giants . i think eagles will be average this year and its the giants division for the taking .
i also think if the jets lose holmes it won’t make a massive difference to our offence , we will go back to a more ground and pound game behind one of the best o-lines in football and keller will step back up like the first 4 game last year .
if holmes goes then we have enough cap to sign nnamdi. we mightn’t be able to pay him as much as the eagles but maybe he would take the same money as revis . instead of being avoided by every qb playing for the eagles maybe he might like the idea or actually making plays for a change . playing opposite revis is the only way nnamdi gets action next year .
if rex and mike T want him he will be a jet , full stop

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by tinley24 on May 21, 2011 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

meh the eagles beat us twice last year so they deserve to be ahead...for now

and I don’t know if I can comprehend revis and nnamdi on the same time.

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by BigBlueIntervention on May 21, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with Tinley, Giants look much nicer than Eagles

I don’t know if there are any rules to power rankings?
besides the champions and such being number 1, I wouldn’t rank a team like Philly highly because of last year in any way.
Giants would be MUCH higher than Eagles if I were to make my own.

Gotta say, nice rankings none the less.

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by Infemous on May 23, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most people had the Pats 10-6 or thereabouts last year.

If that means 14-2 and a #1 seed, I’ll take that.

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by insertscreenname on May 22, 2011 3:05 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The only issue I have is the Chargers ranked ahead of New Orleans. Drew Brees>Philip Rivers and that’s the only stat you need to realize why they should never be ahead of the Saints.

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by Alex Swift on Jun 22, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Pats at around 10-6 or 11-5 is fine with me

the offense will take a step back (doubt it can stay at a historic level in successive years, but Brady is pretty magical)
the defense is getting more mature but it is to be seen how Ty Warren and Leigh Bodden bounce back from missing a whole season

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