Who's Your Breakout Candidate(s)?
by DBroncs1414 on Jun 9, 2011 6:38 PM EDT
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PrintIn this boring offseason, here's another hypothetical to kill time until this lockout deal is done with. Who do you think will be a breakout player this year? He could be from your team, or any other team. Also, don't just toss a name out there, give reasons such as coaching change, scheme change, another acquisition, etc. that will make him better. More then one is welcome of course. Try and avoid rookies or guys that receive a lot of publicity, I'm looking for a guy on a roster right now we don't know so well. The more obscure the better.
For me, I'm gonna stick with my Broncos. I'm going to go with Robert Ayers. He was drafted by McDaniels as a 3-4 OLB, and being 270+ he wasn't a perfect fit there. He has pretty decent moves, mainly an effective bull rush, and he did well against the run standing up and should be just as effective or more as a DE in Fox's 4-3. Fox already said he likes him as his LE, and with Doom on the other side he should be freed up. Von Miller will also draw some attention, and if Ayers takes advantage of this he could put up the big numbers he is capable of. I also like how Fox mentioned he could kick inside on obvious passing downs and use his bull rush/power moves while Doom and Ayers fly off the edges, similar to how the Giants kick Tuck inside, although Ayers is no Tuck he could do well in such a role on nickel packages.
I hate going 2 in a row for the Broncos, but I'm going to throw Eric Decker onto this list. Drafted in the 3rd round last year, many thought the Broncos got good value and he could help the Broncos with the loss of BMarsh. However, many didn't expect the emergence of the Broncos WR corps and Decker didn't get many catches behind Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney, Demaryoius Thom and Eddie Royal. D Thom is hurt, Lloyd may not repeat as well, and Gaff is getting up there in age, so I think Decker will have a lot of oppurtunites this year. He's not going to be an all around beast, but I think if he gets the passes thrown to him he'll show he can be an effective #2 possesion WR.
For my 3rd, to help deflect the homer jabs, I'll go with Montario Hardesty. Its hard to put a kid that hasn't played yet on this, but I think he qualifies. I love Hillis, but the way he runs durability may be an issue, and splitting carries may be in their best interest. If he gets some carries, Hardesty could put up some good numbers.
Now I ask you MTD readers: Who's your breakout candidate(s)?
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Mario Manningham
tho its really not a ‘breakout’. Steve Smith probably will go on the PUP (tho I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a starter by game 1) and HAM when he actually lines up with an NFL WR to the other side of him, and not Derek Hagen, is really unguardable. Hopefully an offseason of working with Eli and learning more of the offense gets him better prepared too so he’s less of an idiot.
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Meh
I have trouble seeing anyone with a 944 yard season with 9 TDs breaking out.
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considering the way the season went
we didn’t see much of him
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Manningham is first guy I thought of.
I find myself on the edge of my seat everytime the ball is thrown his way. He’s got a frame and just a knack for making plays.
by Crackback on Jun 9, 2011 7:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Michael Crabtree
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He's got the talent to do so
I just question whether the QB will get it to him enough
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I'm just happy we got an offense that hopefully won't be run the first two downs then when its 3rd and 8 throw the ball.
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true true
Still needs someone to get it there when they do throw, and I have doubts on Smith and Kap’s a little raw.
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I think coaching will be enough for him to break out
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He's a first round pick that held out.
Does he really qualify within these parameters? He gets tons of media attention. If we’re going with 1st rounders though I’ll toss Beanie Wells out there too. He’ll be playing with fear as his motivator after the Cardinals drafted Ryan Williams. Presuming he is healthy all season it should be his year to finally shine.
by hadrarius on Jun 9, 2011 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your really high on this coaching staff
I wish them the best but college-to-pro rarely works out, if it even has
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take that last part back
it has, but again super rare, more busts then anything, even some who are better coaches then Harbaugh
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The last Stanford Coach worked out well
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Faulty comparison
Walsh had experience coaching in the league prior to being an HC, Harbaugh doesn’t
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The 49ers new coaching staff has 150+ years of combined NFL coaching and playing experience.
The whole “college to NFL” condition is incredibly overblown in this situation.
I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
And Harbamania. And the San Francisco Giants 2010 World Series season.
by Hoopers Judge on Jun 10, 2011 4:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't think it really is so
“overblown.” It rarely works and Harbaugh has been in the league as a coach only as a QB coach. From my understanding, he’s brought a lot of his Stanford staff, who do have NFL experience, but it remains to be seen if the coordinators can call plays at this level.
I still stand by the fact that better coaches than Harbaugh have come to the NFL from college and have failed miserably
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this is true
Harbaugh has surrounded himself with a lot of talented coaches.
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Joe Flacco
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
lol
seriously though, any Ravens or any other player we should watch?
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I am serious. I think this is going to be when the Flacco takeover begins. He will surpass 4,000 yards and around 30 TD’s this year as he leads Baltimore to the 32nd pick in the draft.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
alright fair enough
not your typical one but if he puts up those numbers I’d call it a breakout
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As far as other players, I will go with Terrence Cody. He is going to be a future pro bowler. He has slimmed down significantly and has everything you want in a 3-4 NT.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Yeah I expect big things from him as well
he’s not just a big body, and I agree slimming down should only help. what’s he down to now?
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Cody wouldn’t reveal what his weight was (said he is waiting till training camp to do so) but did state he is alot lighter. Take a look for yourself.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
damn he looks alot better
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 10, 2011 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
The black shirt could be a little deceiving (black makes you look slimmer) but I don’t think he looks anything like he used to. The guy says he has been working out realllllly hard twice a day 6 days a week. I can only imagine that going through a routine like that for someone his size that he is going to be losing alot of body fat.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he comes into training camp at 325-330.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Supposedly he has been cleared for contact by multiple doctors in the Baltimore area, so once training camp starts we could see him in pads from the beginning.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Ah
Yeh, that’s good to hear, no one wants a football career to end like that, division rivalry aside.
I wonder how well he’ll play this year. Coming off that type of injury, still technically a rookie, the lockout…not a good situation.
He definitely will be one of if not the most interesting guys to see in camp. It’s looking like there is some real progress in the CBA, so hopefully they get that cleared up. I remember hearing nothing but good things about how he was doing in camp last year and I really hope he comes back the same player. He could be a huge boost to our defense, but it’s a little hard to realistically believe he will be the same player.
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I really wanted him on the Packers.
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heck I am curious too
that guy could be a beast as a pass rusher
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Not everything
He needs to work on his leverage for sure
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 6, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
You can't say the same thing every year
Then when you hit it go, “SEE I TOLD YOU!”
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by John Stephens on Jun 10, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, Joe has improved vastly across the board each year, so I am sort of right when I say it. But now is the time…
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Dustin Keller
He’s flirted with stardom, but I think his talent is so obvious that those of us who watch him regularly keep wondering when he’s going to start dominating games. Now that Sanchez is in his 3rd year, and settled into the offense, Keller will be emphasized more.
by Crackback on Jun 9, 2011 7:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Have to +1 that.
For myself, I think that another Jet, Dwight Lowery on D should breakout. Whether at safety, or playing some nickleback because Kyle wilson doesn’t improve, this guy is oing to be just a playmaker. He already has. Last year, he sealed two or three games for us alone. I think a full year at safety, (since we probably won’t bring back Eric Smith AND Brodney Pool) will really bode well for him. He could become the ballhawking safety we haven’t had in a while. I’m looking at you, Kerry Rhodes!!!
Oh, and I also think that Mike Wallace will become a for sure top 10 reciever. Even if Hines Ward does come back, he is practically done and might see much less throws his way. I don’t see a big stepup for Emmanuel Sanders or Antonio Brown (they might need some more time), so I think Wallace could become a more complete reciever and catch around 80-90 balls for, say, 1300-1400 yards.
I wouldn't call Wallace a breakout candiate
He had 60 catches for 1,257 yards last year
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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Wallace is already a top 10 WR
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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 10, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cmon that's a stretch.
Off the top of my head: Larry Fitz, Andre Johnson, Santonio Holmes, Reggie Wayne, Miles Austin, Vincent Jackson, Sidney Rice, maybe Braylon Edwards, too, are all easily better than Wallace. Oh and Brandon Marshall, too.
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I think if you put Braylon on the Steelers he gets those stats of Miuke Wallace's and maybe even better.
Stop talking up Wallace like he’s been a beast for a while because he hasn’t…give him a few more years.
Mike Wallace is a beast man, what are you talking about? He is a game breaker. I would take Wallace over Austin, Holmes and Edwards for sure.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
It took Holmes 4 years to break 1,000 yards
And he had problems with drops. Wallace got there in 2. As a 3rd round pick. In 5 seasons Holmes has scored 26. In two Wallace has 16.
He belongs
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I agree. He is the biggest playmaker at WR next to Desean Jackson. And the difference between him and Jackson is that Wallace is capable of running the full route tree and is often used across the middle, Jackson isn’t as much.
As soon as Wallace can master running all the routes, he will be an elite WR. I hate the guy because he is a Steeler, but he is as dangerous as they come. Luckily the Ravens know how to contain him.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
That's not that hard when you play the role Wallace does.
He’s a good deep threat with good hands. That’s why he only has 60 receptions and over 1200 yards. The guy AVERAGES 21 yards a catch, and 6 YAC. A good deep threat yes, but he’s a one trick pony at this point, not a top 10, all around receiver.
by lifeinthepit00 on Jun 13, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
How many Steelers games did you watch this season? Not many apparently. Wallace took huge strides forward in his route running this year, as only a second year WR, mind you, being compared to all 5+ year vets. He took on a lot of screen passes and crossing routes that he turned into huge gains with his speed.
He will always have a high yards/catch because he is so damn fast and every bomb thrown to him he is already in the endzone. Can you blame him for that?
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by John Stephens on Jun 13, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll agree with this. Wallace ran almost as many intermediate routes as he did deep routes.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
stop hating on Miles
I think Wallace is a gamebreaker, reminds me of DeSean but bigger
I wanted him that draft so badly, great fluffin pick
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hakeem Nicks, Dez Bryant, Desean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Steve Smith
Wallace would only start on the Redskins in the NFC East
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Roddy While is probably better then all of those mentioned, save for maybe Fitz
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Agreed, I just forgot Roddy White.
If I had a list, I bet I could name 20 recievers better than Mike Wallace. The dude only has had one great year, I wouldn’t call him elite yet.
Greg Jennings
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Santonio Holmes, Vincent Jackson, Sidney Rice, and Braylon Edwards
good joke
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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 12, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought the joke was Mike Wallace
tho Edwards is pretty funny and you know about Holmes
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Sanchez must be bad if he can't perform with two of the top 10 receivers...
by Always Sunny Next Year on Jun 12, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
he is
tho he doesn’t have two top 10 WRs.
Holmes is pretty good, I’d say top 25. Edwards is garbage tho.
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by Rorschach44 on Jun 12, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
How is Holmes better?
Please point out the 1000 yard season he had while in the same exact offense. Or the season where he had 10 TDs.
And no, not Braylon Edwards.
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by John Stephens on Jun 13, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d take Derrick Mason over Edwards.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
I would too
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by John Stephens on Jun 13, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I recd it because it had to be a joke.
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It’ll have to be for another team, but…
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The guy already played great last year, so this does not count lol. You guys got yourself a hell of a TE there. Ozzie REALLY wanted him.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
I'll try
but the main point for this was hidden gems currently on the roster
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Jerome Simpson - new #1 for Cincy
Dalton will have to throw somewhere and AJ Green will take some time to get to full speed per rookie norms
on that note, Jermaine Gresham should be huge in helping Dalton as well
On defense, some LB or CB from the Lions – their frontline is brutal enough to make work easy for the rest of the team
Well, Levy is the only LB the Lions have.
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I have a feeling since Brandon Graham is hurt that Ricky Sapp will do pretty good things under Jim Washburn
I love this pick
I had been thinking this for a while and was wondering if anyone else thought so too. I think Sapp is a perfect fit in Washburn’s system. I’m excited to see what he can do.
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Break out player for the Cardinals - WR Stephen Williams, 2010 rookie UDFA.
This is of course based on the presumption that the Cardinals employ an actual nfl quarterback this season. All bets are off if they don’t bother. Last season the Cardinals wide receivers got pretty banged up. The top 3 guys (Fitzgerald, Breaston and Doucet) all missed games and played through injuries. Fitz only missed preseason but was not 100% for the first quarter of the season. This opened up opportunity for the guys lower down the depth chart. Williams is 6’5, 208 and super fast. If Breaston is allowed to go he may take his place as the #2. Doucet is a slot receiver. If Breaston is kept I see Williams finding his way to the field in 4 receiver sets which the Cardinals play a lot of. I’m still not buying that they will become a run heavy team regardless of what they did in the draft. I’m not going to guarantee he’ll get 1000 yards or anything but I honestly think he has the potential to win the starting receiver spot opposite Fitz if the circumstance occurs and that’s pretty good for an undrafted second year player.
I like Williams, I really do
He has a great skill set, and the potential is there, but when it came time to play for real it seemed like he just couldn’t put it all together. Although the QB situation didn’t help. It would be a real shame if he only shines in preseason and fades out like Onrea Jones did. I think he can become a real weapon though if he puts it all together. I think he improves, but I still see him as “under construction” this season. I think Roberts will be the breakout candidate at WR. He turned it on towards the latter half of the season, and he looked good against Dallas, even if most of his yards came on that TD pass. He’s my candidate at WR, unless Demarco Sampson comes out of nowhere and tears $hit up! lol
by lifeinthepit00 on Jun 13, 2011 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Injuries could be the open door for Williams
Doucet finished the season injured. There are concerns with Breaston. Roberts is the next guy in line I agree. If Williams gets the chance I can see him blowing up big time though. I really hope he doesn’t turn into another Onrea Jones. Housler is the guy I see cutting into his time the most.
Hmm...
That’s a tough call for the Packers. Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, B.J. Raji, Desmond Bishop, insert street FA here, and even James Starks all had sort if a break out year last season. Shields was an UDFA who turned into one of the best nickelbacks in the league, and everyone saw what Starks did down the stretch.
How about Mike Neal? Cullen Jenkins is probably gone, so that opens up a spot on the DL. Mike Neal showed some promise last year before getting hurt and missing most of the year. Morgan Burnett could fit into this category as well. He showed some ball-hawking potential as the starting SS to start last season, but he too went on IR. He had a lot of work to do to become a complete player, and he still has to beat out Charlie Peprah, but he could be primed for a big sophomore season.
Other than that, most starters will be returning and most of the rookies taken this year are developmental picks. Randall Cobb, however, could be pretty impressive in his first season.
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Is there really any other choice?
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I was thinking the same thing...it's got to be Neal
Although the close contender in all of this could be a toss up between James Starks and Sam Shields. Both got some extra hype in the playoffs, but now with a full year under their belt could really begin to shine.
The extra bit for Starks is the health of Ryan Grant. If Grant doesn’t have the same power and speed he once had Starks could quickly step up and take a big place in this offense.
by PackApologist on Jun 14, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
The thing is that Shields already broke out last year, as far as Packer fans and opposing WRs are concerned. And Starks had a few weeks of stardom and most fans know his name. Neal never got to show his stuff.
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Greg Hardy, DE, Carolina Panthers
Showed flashes of greatness last season, but was held back by the lame-duck coaching staff. I fully expect Rivera and McDermott to set him loose and the team to have one of, if not the best DE pass-rush in the NFL with he & Charles Johnson, with a bit of Everette Brown thrown in.
by Ol' Uncle Munnerlyn on Jun 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
I like that call
I’ve heard good things about him and that he should only get better, and that he’s a reason the Panthers may let Johnson walk if he costs too much
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My feeling is there is no price the Panthers won't be willing to pay for Johnson.
He’s a beast. And I like the call for Greg Hardy to break out. I can see it.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Jun 10, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sorry but I can't buy that first part
they were clearly willing to let a HOF DE walk, what makes Johnson different? And I’m not saying the Panthers are a “cheap” franchise, I think frugal is a better word and makes me feel they won’t get into a bidding war for him
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That's incorrect
The Panthers reportedly made a huge offer to Peppers. Peppers had no interest in resigning. They could have bought him an island of his own and he still would have walked. It wasn’t about the money. And just because they aren’t wasting money on guys like Haynesworth doesn’t make them frugal. It’s a common misconception. Look at some of the extensions they’ve handed out. Other than Peppers, you’d be hard pressed to find a top tier player they’ve “allowed” to walk.
by BusyBeingAwesome on Jun 13, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Jimmy Graham, TE, New Orleans
Guy is the next coming of Antonio Gates. Only thing holding him back is the Saints’ offensive system. Too much spreading
The media's all over his junk so its not a complete hidden gem
but I expect a big year too
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Break out player for the Chiefs
Offense: Tony Moeaki, the second target most of last season he finished the year with 550 yards and 3 touchdowns as a rookie tight end including this memorable image:
Defense: Brandon Carr, the second CB in a great defensive backfield, was target often this year and he steadily progressed as the year went on. He has better size, speed, strength than Flowers, who received most of the publicity, and if he continues to mature i expect him to breakout in the form of interceptions this season. He has many passes deflected but couldn’t haul them in.
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Not a big fan of Carr
but I think Moeaki can be a beast
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Brandon Carr is one of the most underrated CB’s in the league. The dude is a beast. Him and Flowers is one of the best combos in the NFL for sure.
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I like Flowers a lot
Carr I’ve felt is not as good. Not that he’s bad, not at all, but I just despise his ball skills. I know its only a youtube video but watch 0:45 and 1:48, you see 2 plays where he is in a great spot to make a play but lets Lloyd catch it. If Carr improves in that aspect, it will be a breakout season and he’ll be a beast, but until I see that I don’t think he’s terribly underrated.
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The 1:48 play he isn't in great position.
He is covering the outside / deep ball and our 3rd string safety, Donald Washington, Is inside. Washington never turns for the ball and Carr is forced trying to go through Lloyd to get to the ball. Lloyd shields Carr with his body and makes the catch on a ball placed perfectly.
:45 i can’t analyze because i don’t know the route ran by the receiver or the coverage that Carr was playing. It could have been a cushion coverage by the CB that Lloyd hot routed into a slant and caught easily. Never know with a quick highlight like that.
Also the point of this is to take people that are less known or less liked and bring a spotlight to their talent. Carr has always had the measurables and he is learning to read routes and react much better. Now he just needs his hands to come around and hold onto the football.
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by ChiefsfanJon on Jun 11, 2011 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions
My comment was in response to Malor saying he's the most underrated
and I said that he wasn’t because for the reasons above he shows he’s not a very good CB yet. I said he can improve and if he does he’d be a breakout, I’m with you.
On the plays, yeah the S should’ve made a better play but Carr came back on it because it was a lob route and when he is in the air behind Lloyd, he hangs up there and doesn’t make a play, I wonder if he lost sight of the ball…
for that one I also agree it was a quick play, but the point of that one was Carr was there and it appeared as though Carr could’ve made a play.
My argument isn’t that he’s bad, not at all, my point was he has sub par ball skills and I think those plays hint toward Carr’s lack of ability to make a play on the ball. If he improves there I’d consider it a break out
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Agreed.
But ProFootballFocus is very impressed with the season Brandon Carr had. And he has the raw athletic skills to be a top notch corner at 6’ 207 and with a 4.4 40 time.
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/03/24/hey-cb-shut-em-down/
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by ChiefsfanJon on Jun 12, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
you gotta give that guy some love right there nobody talks about Carr and he shuts his man down every week
I know I was impressed with how good he was with Flowers on the other side
I love what the Chiefs are doing, I really respect that franchise
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
great point
I know from my experiences as a Cowboys fan poor safety play can burn a cornerback and leave him out to dry
I think you guys got a great player in Berry, but opposite of him doesnt look so hot
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ball skills?
You mean leading the league in Passes Defensed isn’t ball skills?
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 6, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks Dan
you got any gems we should look out for?
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Juice Williams.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Can I pick Austin Collie again?
Seriously though, can I? Seem to be a lot of people doubting his return at the moment. Reggie Wayne is on the decline and Collie has proven to be far superior to Pierre Garcon. Not sure he will overtake Wayne in yards this year, but I would not be surprised at all if Collie is #2 in yards and leads the team in TDs.
Sticking with the Colts…
I’m going for a deep sleeper on offense with Delone Carter the rookie RB out of Syracuse. Addai may or may not be back and I’m willing to call Donald Brown a total bust at this point. Carter is the power back the Colts haven’t had since James Mungro, but more talented. I could see him collecting a few hundred yards half a dozen TDs.
On Defense I’m going to go with Kavell Conner. He showed some flashes last year before getting injured. Clint Session really struggled at times and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Conner overtake him. The Colts weakside LB usually racks up a lot of stops, so if Conner wins the job outright he could be a triple digit tackle guy.
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Since everyone is saying players on their own team
I will go with Emmanuel Sanders. He got off to a slow start of his rookie year with Ben sitting out. However, as the 3rd WR, he finished out really strong. I expect he takes a huge leap forward this year and a bit of focus is shifted away from Ward. My guess is he has somewhere around 70-80 catches for 800 yards and 5 TDs.
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70-80 catches as the 3rd WR? You are talking about the Steelers offense, not the Colts. You guys don’t pass enough to have 3 guys with 70+ catches. Ward will see around 70, Wallace should see 70-80 and Sanders 40-50 is my guess. You guys run the ball too much to have your 3rd WR see those kind of numbers. I could be wrong and he could possibly do it, but only way I see that happening is if Ben is throwing 575 passes this year OR Ward/Wallace get hurt and Sanders steps in.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
You should do some research
In 2009, Ward, Holmes, and Miller all had 70+ catches with Wallace sliding in with 39. Our offense is now a run first team and has been moving more and more that way parallel with the league. Yes, last year we were 8th in rush attempts, but that is heavily slanted towards the first weeks of the season without Ben. In 2009, we were 18th in rush attempts.
And, if you read my comment, my belief is that Ward’s roll will diminish in the offense this year. That will open up a lot of catches for Sanders and Brown. Instead of the 475 pass attempts, I assume the Steelers will again have 525+ like in 2009. With 525 pass attempts, there is definitely a chance for him to get 70.
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by John Stephens on Jun 10, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
*now a pass first
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by John Stephens on Jun 10, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
No need to get chippy bro, don’t get worked up about it. And I didn’t even think about Miller. If I would have, he would have been thrown into my comment as another reason why I don’t see Sanders getting 70-80 catches like you states.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
I wasn't really chippy, or at least I didn't mean to be
The way I see it is this way, with 525 passes and take Ben’s 63% completion rate you get about 330 receptions.
So my layout would look like
Wallace 60-70 recs
Sanders 70-80
Miller 50-60
Ward 40-50
Brown 20-30
Mendy & Co. 40 – 50
If you take the middle ground everywhere you get 310. Then add in the misc. catches and you are at about 10-25. So, just about 330. I really do not think that is implausible.
After week 5, Sanders had 24 catches in 7 games. I think that is 100% attributed to his work with BB. And had he had him the entire season, I think he could have had a 40 catch season, just the same as Mike Wallace. I think Sanders will shift into the #2 and Ward will drop back to a #3 and we will see him dominate teams that are focusing too much on Wallace and Ward.
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by John Stephens on Jun 10, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Where do Sweed’s 75 catches play into this? The guy is going to break out……again.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
I won't bank on him
But if he does make the team, I’d reduce Sanders and probably take Brown down to 10 recs.
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by John Stephens on Jun 10, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Brown is just as likely as Sanders to break out. Both have skills. Sweed should be relegated to dusting the tops of the lockers.
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Sweed has the most raw talent of any WR on this team
All he needs to do is put it all together and stop dropping passes and he will be a star.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 11, 2011 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
They do
But Sanders is miles ahead in route running and blocking. I really like both of their potential, but Sanders is ready to be good now.
Sweed has been worthless so far, but he has the most potential to be elite.
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by John Stephens on Jun 11, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Pettigrew has already been found
Hard to hide a guy his size.
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Then why doesnt he show up on any top 10 TE lists?
He was top 5 in receptions and yards. I forget where in TDs. But no one talks about him.
For the Redskins,
I’m nominating a DL that only played in 20 games the past 2 years, and was inactive for the final four this past season. As a highly touted newcomer, he has been slow to catch on with the Redskins, producing just 53 tackles and 6.5 sacks in his extremely limited playing time. The ‘Skins have tried to find ways to utilize him to increase his productivity— he’s played mostly in nickel packages during 3rd down pass-rushing situations to date. Yes, I think this might be the year that Albert Haynesworth steps up and makes a name for himself.
Really though, I think that this year will be the year that we start to hear about 2 2009 draft picks. Kevin Barnes, CB, selected in the 3rd round out of Maryland and Jeremy Jarmon, DE, selected in the 3rd round of the supplemental draft out of Kentucky.
Adam Carriker?
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I think DJ Moore will have a good year
Navorro Bowman is another to watch
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DJ Moore nice pick
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 10, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ISAAC REDMAN!!!!!!
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Hard to break out when you already are in the HOF.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
He's not in the HoF...He IS the HoF!
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Whoops!
Don’t know why the pic didn’t post…
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Really?
You couldn’t post a pic of him from the Superbowl that he lost last season? lol jk jk
by lifeinthepit00 on Jun 13, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s not from the SB, that is a preaseson game I believe
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by John Stephens on Jun 13, 2011 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, preseason
When he got all his carries.
I thought he was a great runner and thought they would bring him out for a bigger role during the actual season.
Last year he was huge on 3rd down. I think he went like 9 for 10 on 3rd and short with a 3.5+ average. Pretty insane.
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by John Stephens on Jun 17, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Johnny is correct
Redman came to us the draft after that SB.
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by Steel Spike on Jun 14, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Not someone who is new in the league but
I think Brodrick Bunkley could have a huge year in Washburn’s system in Philly. Its the same type of defense he was in Florida State and he was a monster.
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good stuff guys
for my team I will say Sean Lee on defense, the kid oozes talent and flies around the field
offense I want to say Felix Jones but Dez Bryant is also going to be a monster
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 10, 2011 2:19 PM EDT reply actions
ha!
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Two from the Steelers
Limas Sweed will drop all the concerns about him being a bust after a huge season this year and Isaac “The most interesting man in the world” Redman will have a big year as our #2 RB.
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by seton hall and steelers on Jun 10, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
For Pats
Possible Offensive breakouts: Taylor Price, Brandon Tate, Aaron Hernandez
Possible Defensive breakouts: Jermaine Cunningham, Brandon Spikes, Pat Chung
RIP Seve
Hernandez?
Wasn’t he a big weapon last year anyway?
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Brandon Tate for sure
i only listed one on offense and defense but Brandon Tate was on the list right after Jerome Simpson
Jermaine Cunningham
he needs to show us why he was picked so high, he has the skills to be a good pass rusher
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 11, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Beanie Wells
If he can stay healthy he could easily be a top ten back. All the talent is there for a monster season.
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If
He is putting up 100+ yards every week, no one is going to steal carries from him.
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No
Beanie Wells is primed for a breakout season. He had an injured knee last season and suffered an allergic reaction to whatever they pumped into it. Tim Hightower is in the doghouse over fumbing troubles. Ryan Williams is unlikely to steal the spotlight as a rookie. Whisenhunt likes to bring rookies along slowly when he can. Stephens-Howling is awesome but not built to be the #1 running back.
Bestjag how've you been?
its been a while. I love that pick as well, I thought he was more talented then Moreno in 09 but hated how injury prone he was. If he can stay healthy he’ll be awesome
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Been good bro
It has been a while.
Yeah, I was pulling for the Jags to draft him his rookie year. I have no reason too, but I’ve always pulled for the guy. I’d love to see him have a monster season.
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I like your Ayers pick
My favorite DE from three drafts ago. Handled blockers well. Thought he would be a great LDE.
For the Giants, I have high hopes for Kenny Phillips. Has the physical tools, still learning the nuances of the game.
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Jermaine Gresham or Jordan Shipley
Maybe both, but I’ll lean more towards Shipley. The guy doesn’t drop anything.
I say both
they are perfect for that offense under Dalton
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Not from my team and I don’t know if he would count, but I will say Matthew Stafford. I think if he stays healthy he will put up some big numbers and he has the weapons around him to do it.
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I hope he does
Ive been rooting for him since he got drafted
guy just needs some OL help
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. He’s a guy I’d really like to see succeed. He has a lot of talent, has the weapons, but just has gotten really unlucky with some poor offensive line play. His game against Cleveland in his rookie season really got me rooting for him
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For the Dolphins I’m gonna go with Koa Misi. Second year in Mike Nolan’s system, Bryan Cox on board as a pass rush coach, and other teams focusing on Cameron Wake and Karlos Dansby will result in significantly more than the 29 tackles and 5 sacks from last year.
good pick
Misi was coveted that draft by the Dolphins so I expect big things from him
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by Archie Barberio on Jun 12, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
For the Rams
I say it’s Donnie Avery, the guy is a pretty good player if he’s healthy and was showing some promise in the Preseason before he got hurt. If he can stay healthy then he’s the speed demon that we need to stretch the field. Look for him to have some good numbers this year.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
I would say Mark Clayton as well. I think he is going to thrive in your system with Bradford only getting better. The guy has potential to be a 70-80 catch player for you all. I was really upset when he got hurt last year because I would love to see him live up to his first round talent that he just couldn’t do in our system.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Clayton
The Rams really suffered when he went down last season. He was turning into the go to guy there.
And I won’t be surprised if he turns into that this season. He is a very, very good route runner.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Yea I would have said Clayton
But he pretty much had his break out season last year, he was doing pretty well before he went down and should get even better. The reason I chose Avery is because he has to prove himself this year in my opinion and prove we didn’t waste a 2nd round pick on him. If he can prove that he’ll be pretty good. Looking forward to seeing him, Clayton and Pettis in our new system.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
Denario Alexander was a stud last year as well in some games, I really like him coming out of college but injuries hurt his draft stock severely. Also gotta throw Amendola in there who was a Wes Welker clone last year with how many receptions he was getting in some of these games.
Bradford may not have a true #1 WR at this point (next draft is loaded with them) but he has a great group of #2 WR that could start for a bunch of other teams.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
I would choose Danario
But him being injury prone just makes it worse for me. If he can stay healthy then he could easily be our number 1 in the near future and as for Amendola he also had his breakout year last year and he should produce well this year, probably not as good as last year since we’ve got our WRs back and we got 2 more in the draft but produce none the less.
And I agree if Avery and Clayton stay healthy plus Danario and they brought in Pettis and Salas with Amendola, not that bad if you ask me.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
And I agree if Avery and Clayton stay healthy plus Danario and they brought in Pettis and Salas with Amendola, not that bad if you ask me.
Alot of potential in that group, and for a young, rebuilding team, that is all you can ask for. They should all turn out pretty solid since Bradford is on his way to stardom.
"No disrespect to Patrick Peterson and Prince Amukamara, but I just think I have better cover skills. They get tested a lot, and that’s for a reason. The other team sees something in their game that they want to attack, and me playing in the same league as Prince, we played the same teams and they didn’t attack me the same. So why does that happen?" - CB Jimmy Smith
Yea my thoughts exactly
I think Clayton will play the 1 while Avery plays the 2 and Pettis at the 3. If he can do well in it I think i could take Avery’s spot at the 2. I think Salas will eventually take Amendola’s spot but probably not this year. Should be interesting none the less.
Sam Bradford to Austin Pettis
Kinda has a ring to it
O'Brien Schofield, Andre Roberts, Greg Toler, and Dan Williams for the Cards
Schofield was putting it together pretty fast in a season that he wasn’t even supposed to play in. In each of his 2 starts, he put up a sack a piece. He finished with 12 tackles, 2 sacks and 1 forced fumble, in limited playing time. He has a good motor, a great mentality, and was able to put some pressure on the opposing QB. Something this D sorley lacked. He was the main reason the Cards waited until the 4th round in the draft to address the OLB position. The guy is going to be a BEAST.
Andre Roberts really struggled in the beginning of the season, but towards the end he really started putting things together and showed real promise as a WR. Good hands, good route running, great speed, and has all the potential to be a really good YAC receiver.
Greg Toler struggled as the starter opposite DRC last season, something not unexpected given his small school background and raw talent, but he showed he could play at a high level against the Saints in the 2009 playoffs. He has great speed and he plays physical, but you could tell he was still raw and without any real pressure on opposing QBs, he really struggled (along with the rest of the secondary). I think with Ray Horton as the new D coordinator and him being switched to a nickel role as a result of the Peterson pick, that Toler has the chance to breakout this season. A good scheme and a lesser work load would do wonders for his development.
Dan Williams was a beast in the second half of the season, and since he’ll be starting out of camp this season he’s primed to breakout. He’s a relentless player with an awesome motor, and I think he was the number 2 defender overall against the run by seasons end (article I read a few months ago that was on NFC West Blog on the ESPN website, and I believe it was referenced on Revenge of the Birds. I wish I had the link to post so I don’t look like some @ssho!e hyping up my team. lol). If he can beef up his pass rush a little bit, he could be one of the top NTs in the league by the end of the season.
I would have put Beanie Wells, but with his injury issues and soft mentality, I don’t trust him. There’s a reason they drafted Ryan Williams, and I’m not so sure it’s to strike the fear of fumble-itis out of Hightower. As far as other teams, I would have to go with Montario Hardesty, Ed Dickson, Golden Tate (depending on who their QB is though), Jordan Shipley, Danny Amendola (especially with McDaniel’s offense. See Welker, Wes), Jacoby Ford, and Louis Delmas.
Ok I was mixed up with some DVOA stop rates I saw with Alan Branch.
by lifeinthepit00 on Jun 13, 2011 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions
aka
my entire team… lol
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Toler breaks out as the nickel?
Don’t know how many people would agree that a downgrade in position puts anyone in line for a breakout season. Schofield is a great choice. Hopefully he and Williams make a big impact and sooner rather than later.
Is it really a downgrade?
Charles Woodson primarily played Nickel last year.
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Also, totally called the Gabe Miller pick. so yeah I'm awesome.
by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 6, 2011 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I really like Sam Acho for you guys too
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 6, 2011 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
For the Eagles
So long as the Eagles don’t sign Plax, look out for Riley Cooper. The Eagles red zone offense stuttered last year and the only receiver worth a damn in the red zone is Jeremy Maclin. Riley Cooper is huge at 6’3" and 225 pounds so he is a weapon in the red zone if he continues his development. Right now he is a guy that gets vertical but doesn’t run smooth routes but who knows what he can become with his type of talent. He is a fantastic blocker from the WR spot, he attacks the ball in the air, he has good long speed and good ball skills. If someone gets hurt or Andy Reid decides to use him in the redzone, prepare for Riley Cooper. Whoever has been scouting WRs for the Eagles since about 2006 deserves a medal, the Eagles are hitting on these guys right and left.
On defense you can pick any defensive lineman and make a case. Sean McDermott and Rory Segrest were functional retards and now they’re getting to work with Jim Washburn. When training camp ends, go see who is atop the depth chart at DT and pick them as a break out guy. Especially if that guy is Antonio Dixon.
The other break out on defense is Jamar Chaney, he started the last few games for the Eagles when Stewart Bradley went down and he did great against the run and okay against the pass. In the 4 games he played significant amounts of time he had 40 tackles, 4 TFL, 2 FF and 1 pass defended. The guy is super talented but slid in the draft because of injury concerns, if he can stay healthy he could become a top 10 MLB in the NFL next year, that’s how impressive he is.
And of course my personal man crush, Keenan Clayton. What a beast. All he does is make plays.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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Ok some more Niner breakout candidates
Offense:
Mike Iupati already a beast but with the Niners making the playoffs he will go to the probowl.
Anthony Davis hopefully Adam Snyder replaces Chilo Rachal at RG and last year Davis consistently played better when Snyder was playing RG.
Crabtree was already stated.
Alex Smith supposedly the playbook is a lot more QB friendly.
Baas a picture is worth 1000 words http://yfrog.com/cakgzncj
Defense:
Patrick Willis he had a down year last year so I will say he will have a breakout year or does this not count?
Navarro Bowman if Spikes is not signed.
Reggie Smith and Taylor Mays both should improve with decent DB coaching the last one sucked.
If I think of more I’ll comment about it.
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
yeah IMO the best LB in the NFL, probably doesn’t count for a breakout candidate.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Shoot that was gonna be my shoe in
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
lol yea I don't know about the Willis one
it’s like saying Bill Gates is an up-and-coming entrepreneur haha
Are we sure that he is not?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
The guy with the huge arms is our Center
The guy feeding him the butter is the LT. The guy in the background is a rookie. Talking about rookies why did we draft a guy named Kilgore. I thought we were going to try to keep Gore healthy
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Talking about rookies why did we draft a guy named Kilgore. I thought we were going to try to keep Gore healthy
lulz
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I like this lockout
Made a beast out of everyone on the team.
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Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Chargers picked this guy off the JETS scrap heap
I guess his breakout year was this year, but too many people still have no clue about Garay. I think he could be a probowler in 2011. Other Charger notables are RG 3rd year player Louis Vasquez, a absolute mammoth of a man that started as a rookie; and was about to breakout but was injured in 2010. Antonie Cason could be another, he basically stepped into the spot Cro left at CB and has been superb since assuming the starting role
Winning
I'm aware of Garay lol
but awesome pick for fans outside of the AFC West who don’t know who he is
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Junior Galette.
Will Smith will be out for the first 4 games. I see Galette breaking out in a big way. Adrian Arrington could make some noise, especially if Devery Henderson and/or Lance Moore don’t get resigned. If you haven’t already heard of him, Chris ‘Tusk’ Ivory, could have a solid year. He led our team in rushing last year with a huge rash of injuries hitting our RB corps. Charles Brown and Zach Strief on the O-Line could have good years, again, depending on how guys ahead of them work out contracts. Jonathon Casillas could be a good OLB, especially because he’ll only have to out battle rookie Martez Wilson in camp to start.
Mark Ingram-OROY
Cam Jordan-DROY
New Orleans Saints-2012 Super Bowl Champs
Junior Went to my HS!
He was a beast, although he was a WR then, nice to hear good things from him!
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by DBroncs1414 on Jun 19, 2011 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Vontae Davis...
He is really one of the top CBs in the league, but i think people are finally going to start to talk about him this season…
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Texans
Glover Quinn
Hes going to have a probowl caliber year at FS
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Sherrod Harris
Ill +1 it
but Connor Barwin is gonna beast out too.
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jul 13, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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