DB's "On the Money" Mock Draft
by DBroncs1414 on Jul 11, 2011 7:34 PM EDT
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I hate doing it this early, I usually tell myself to wait until after the college bowl season, but I think this would be considered circumstance to bend the rules (Damn you lockout!). As with all mocks this early, don't buy into the order. O, and the title is a complete joke.
1. Miami Dolphins: Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford: Again, Don't attack the order, its pretty irrelevant. I don't think this team will be good at all as I said in my Projected Division Standings post. If they play this bad, it will mean Sparano is done, Henne is done, and new regime with the 1st pick always leads to a new QB.
2. Cleveland Browns: Quinton Coples, DE, UNC: I liked the Sheard pick, but they'll probably need a more prolific rusher. Coples fits such a role. QB was considered, but I don't see Holmgren giving up on McCoy yet, he's got massive wood for him still.
3. Redskins: Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma: John Beck project ends as quickly as it begins. If they pick this high, without the first pick, I think Shanny will have his choice of Barkley or Jones, and as of now I'm leaning towards Jones.
4. Tenessee Titans: Justin Blackmon, WR, Ok St: They need a WR for Locker if they want him to be successful. Britt just cannot be trusted to play 16 games a season with all his bone head decisions. Blackmon may not be athletic enough to get the hype for this high of a pick, but he's very reliable and would be a perfect match for Locker.
5. Carolina Panthers: Alshon Jeffery, WR, South Carolina: Why not bring in the local boy? The Panthers have some young talent developing at WR but none with this amount of potential. Cam would be very happy and he fits the Chargers WR mold Rivera and Chudsinski are bringing.
6. Oakland Raiders: Marcus Forston, DT, Miami: He will test like a Raider and I would be hella surprised if he's not a Raider (unless he actually plays well on the field). Maybe Al Davis will be smart enough to wait till later for him, but he did draft Demarcus Van Dyke in the 3rd.
7. Seattle Seahawks: Matt Barkley, QB, USC: Barkley joins Carroll again, USC Reunion! Thankfully there are no recruiting violations and what not they could break in the NFL!
8. Minnesota Vikings: Matt Kalil, OT, USC: I think an OT could go higher then here, but with some good QB's at the top the OT's could be pushed down. OT may not be this team's biggest need next year, but McKinnie's getting up there, Loadholt may thrive being kicked inside, and I don't think the Vikings have an OT with Kalil's pass pro potential.
9. Buffalo: Jonathon Martin, OT, Standford: Top 3 QB's are gone so they'll go a different route. The draft should be primed for OT and QB where they're picking, so they can probably get a day one starter at either position with their first pick.
10. Cincinnati Bengals: Jerel Worthy, DT, Mich St: He'll need to actually produce on the field for this, but 10 is more realistic then the #2 overalls I've seen on this website.
11. Denver Broncos: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama: He has to refine some things to be a high pick, but with Nick Saban as his coach I wouldn't bet against it. Champ's getting older, Cox has potential but not sure if he can be the "#1 in waiting." Squids a nickel back and Goodman's days are numbered in Denver. CB will be a need but just because of that doesn't make it a guaranteed a high pick. This org proved they'll consider BPA ahead of need, however need always has a factor.
12. San Fransisco: Jared Crick, 5 tech DE, Nebraska: Justin Smith is getting older, and while I think he can produce for a couple more years it may be in the 9ers best interest to get a talented 5 tech to get ready for Smith's eventual departure, since good talent at the position is near impossible to find.
13. Kansas City Chiefs: Mike Adams, OT, Ohio St: I don't think Albert will do enough to prove he's the LT of the future, and believe the Chiefs will get Adams for LT and slide Albert to the right.
14. Jacksonville Jaguars: Vontaze Burfict, LB, AZ St: Not sure if this is a good scheme fit but if a talented guy like this falls in Smith's lap I would be surprised if he passed him.
15. Arizona Cardinals: Brandon Jenkins, 3-4 OLB, FSU: I think he's athletic enough to stand up, and I'm banking on the Cards getting a QB to make them pick this low, so pass rush has got to be the pick, and Jenkins has good value.
16. Detroit: Travis Lewis, LB, Oklahoma: A very versatile LB who I think would be a great fit for Schwartz. Could make a push to be the top LB, even over Burfict.
17. Houston: Kenny Tate, S, Maryland: I don't know if he'll go this high or if Safety is a big need in Houston, but this secondary could use a huge boost and a Safety of Tate's caliber can help increase the play of their CBs.
18. New York Giants: Matt Reynolds, OT, BYU: I think Beatty will get his shot for LT, and Reynolds will be the RT of the future.
19. Cleveland (from ATL): Jeff Fuller, WR, Texas A&M: I'm not sold on Little, but even if he does develop who's behind him? If a WR of Fuller's caliber is available wherever their ATL pick is I can't see them pass.
20. Dallas: Stephen Gilmore, CB, South Carolina: I think Jenkins could bounce back, but Newman's getting older and I don't know how much longer they can lean on him.
21. Saint Louis: Michael Floyd, WR, ND: STEAL! He's had a lot going against him since he's been at ND (Golden Tate, sub par QB play) and still has had a very respectable career. He has the potential to dominate at every level of the passing game despite not being a burner. He's got some character issues but well worth the risk here.
22. Indy: Ryan Broyles, WR, Oklahoma: With uncertainty of the WR position beyond 2011, Broles (who's a perfect fit for Indy) could be their pick.
23. Tampa Bay: Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama: May not be their biggest need, but I think he can spell Blount well like he did Ingram. I also question how well Blount will do this year as the full time RB, and how much longer Cadillac will be a 3rd down back. If Richardson falls this low I think he'd be a great pick.
24. Green Bay: Donte Paige-Moss, OLB, UNC: He won't be as good of an all around 3-4 OLB that MAtthews is, but he should help take off pressure.
25. San Diego: Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas: I don't know how many of their WR's they'll bring back, but if they lose a couple Childs could be a good replacement, he's got the size they like at WR.
26. NYJ: LaMichael James, RB, Oregon: LT's likely playing his last season, and I don't know if they can bank on Joe McKnight to be the guy to be the 3rd down back for Green. James would fit the LT role nicely.
27. Philly: Chase Minnifield, CB, UVA: I think the Eagles are not as much of a lock for Asomugha as people think, and may adress the #2 CB spot in the draft next year.
28. New England: Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina: Not too familiar with him, but from what I've heard he should be a good pass rusher in a 3-4, which the Pats really need. Knowing BB though this pick will be traded.
29. Baltimore: Kniles Davis, RB, Arkansas: Big year for Kniles last year and I think if he can build on it he could sneak into the end of the first. Ray Rice is awesome, but McGahee and McClain may not be back. Davis would be an excellent choice at this spot if such a scenario unfolded.
30. New England (from NO): Kelechi Osmele, G, Iowa St.: BB isn't afraid to pick interior OL in the first, and with some uncertainty in NE's interior OL a steal like this would be a perfect BB pick.
31. Chicago: Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers: If Sanu can show more from the outside the numbers WR spot, he could go higher. For now Chicago lands one of the best playmakers in this draft at a position of need.
32. Pittsburgh: Alameda Ta'amu, Nt, Washington: If the Steelers win the SB, I don't see Hampton coming back. If he's gone they need NT, and Alameda is the perfect fit.
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Meh
Adams is fine I suppose, with so much uncertainty around OSU I don’t think he’s gonna go that early though. I have him rated more towards a late first.
Would much rather have Burfict or Jenkins and continue to build around the defense.
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At 13 best OT is a good choice IMO
Although I think KC is low and Denver(hopefully no bias) is high
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jul 11, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It may be a bias
but its not like 11 is saying much, last year that would mean 6 wins and that’s where I think they’ll be around.
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meant to say its not bias
my bad, I stand by the 6 wins
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But at 13
I think QB is a bigger issue then OT is, and I like the crop of OTs next year much more then this year.
Meaning, that in the 2nd there should be guys we can find to fill a LT role, because honestly finding an elite pass blocker is overrated, I don’t think the last 5 SB winners had one.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 11, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
QB?
And I base the LT thing off of Haley, I read some quotes before the draft saying Albert needs to improve, and I’m not sure if he will. Besides the Steelers, I would say the LT’s who won SB’s are heads over heels better then Albert right now, even Diehl.
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That was just coachspeak, Haley says that about every position
Regardless everybody pegged us for drafting a Tackle in the first, and unsurprisingly we did not draft a Tackle, again.
And my point was those Tackles were good, but not ELITE. Which means you don’t need that to actually win the big one, and you especially don’t need to draft them early.
I would also say Albert was better then Clifton, who is over-the-hill, Starks and Bushrod. Shoot he’s better then Clady who gets away with the most holding calls in the league but that’s another debate entirely :p
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 12, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
But this all stems from the fact that you have us selecting Adams who I don't like that early.
If it was Martin, Kalil or Reiff I probably wouldn’t have that much of a problem with it.
But then this is another year away, football needs to start already.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 12, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
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…. He’s not better then Clady, I hope the “:p” alludes to sarcasm.
It’ll be a wait and see I guess. When Doom posts 6 sacks on him alone I wonder if Haley will be saying only “coachspeak.” /kindasarc.
as for your second comment, Adams could be a top selection if he puts on weight, he reminds me of a less athletic Tyron Smith. Martin and Kalil would be great, but likely out of your draft range. Reiff I see as only a RT, and I don’t see the point of drafting one wen you can just kick Albert over who would be more then enough there.
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Lol doom getting 6 sacks?
In you’re dreams. Clady is overrated to the max he had a fluke of a rookie year and has since disappeared. Hali serves him up like breakfast, you’re just lucky the league has told the Refs not to call holding penalties anymore.
Tyron Smith? Even worse then I thought, Tyron was probably the most overrated player in last year’s draft, and I’m a Trojan fan. I think you’re underrating Reiff just a tad, but we’ll see when NCAA rolls around who’s right.
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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 12, 2011 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Clady overrated?
I’ll agree he took a step back, but I can’t judge Clady harshly for last year, he played after having a surgery where every expert said he wouldn’t be able to play at all that season, and although it wasn’t a pro bowl performance it was admirably good. I expect to see 08 Clady next year as long as he doesn’t play too much basketball.
I didn’t like Tyron Smith either, but he did go 9th overall. Reiff’s good but as I said I don’t see LT potential (i.e. Bulaga) and that will cause him to fall (like Bulaga).
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I think with so much uncertainty
he’ll leave as soon as he can. It all depends on how next season unfolds, as in if Albert doesn’t take the next step an LT like Adams could be a necessity. I understand what your saying though
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Ravens
I just don’t see us going RB in round one. I like Davis as a player, but just don’t know that there’s that much value in going RB round one when we still have a young stud entering his prime. I like our late round RB we picked up late and we got some back ups that may be able to hold down the back up role. I really think we go MLB, maybe OLB (depending on Kindle), or S if any are worth picking around our pick. I’m sure Ozzie is looking at both Upshaw and Hightower because he is an Alabama alumni and still has close ties there. I personally don’t see us using a 1st on a C, but I would rather draft Brewster over a RB.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I don’t see Te’o, so he would be the likely pick if you don’t have him being picked, but you may have left him off because I heard he could be staying at school. Hope he comes out though and would hope we trade up for him or Burfict.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Fair enough on RB
I don’t think its your biggest need either but if Kniles can repeat/improve from last year he may just be too tempting to pass. I don’t have Upshaw and Hightower in the first because I think they will both have Brandon Spikes like offseason, which will lead them to drop. I had Kenny Tate go early and I don’t think any S’s are worth it there.
As for Te’o, he’s not going pro next year, you can bank on that.
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Yeah if these were the cases come draft day then i wouldn’t see us staying put. We move our 1st pick around a lot and if this was the case we more than likely would drop back some spots, but obviously you aren’t mocking trades, so just got to go with what you got.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
thanks
a couple of these I thought were perfect trade scenarios but at this time I just can’t do it
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by DBroncs1414 on Jul 11, 2011 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Broyles a lot, but I understand the people wanting a higher upside guy.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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That could happen
They may trade down for a guy like him, but he reminds me a lot of Anthony Gonzalez coming out, though I like Broyles more
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he reminds me more of Collie
Gonzalez has great timed speed in addition to being very fast on the field, while Collie and I expect Broyles won’t run great 40s, but get through their routes quicker than many guys with more raw speed.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Jul 11, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont see the jets picking a RB in round one, gta go with either a pass rusher, safety or maybe a wr but dont see a RB
Those positions of need were not of good value there.
Sanu was but he’s like Brad Smith, I don’t see you guys getting 2 of them. If McKnight can show some semblance of being a 3rd down back this will likely change but until then its quite possible
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Here’s to hoping Jared Crick’s season justifies sucha high pick, and that Alfonzo Dennard makes it into your next one.
Paige-Moss is not a bad pick at all.
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O crap forgot Dennard
I like him for the late first. I still like Gilmore and Kirkpatrick more but he’s easily my 3rd CB. Thanks for the reminder. Glad you liked the Paige-Moss pick.
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And 12 may be a bit high for Crick
but with the demand of 5 techs we could see it.
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Niners don't need a new 5 tech
Soap does a great job in stopping the run and he is improving on his pass rush. Hopefully we sign McDonald and he can win the starting job from Soap and Soap moves to NT if/when Franklin leaves. Smith isn’t on the decline in fact he is the best 3-4 DE in the NFL at this very moment. But then again it takes a while for a DE to get up to speed.
Now for my own opinion on the 5 tech. Why don’t people draft a DE from a 4-3? They have that natural ability to get to the QB and given a few years to develop could get strong enough to shut down the run.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
I don’t know we got a guy named Haloti Ngata who’s pretty good.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I would vote Ngata for best DT in the game
3-4 or 4-3, he is so good. No way Smith is the best DE.
As for drafting 4-3 DEs for the 3-4 DE postion, it has been done. Watt was a DE. The main thing a DE in a 3-4 must do is occupy blockers. If they can rush the passer from there it’s a added bonus. Most 4-3 Des are pass rusher 1st run stopper 2nd. And there is such a huge possiblity in size. A 4-3 De could be anywhere from 5’11 248 to 6’6 300. DTs on the other are more likely to be chosen is they already do most of those things already.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
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by Steel in FL on Jul 12, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Numbers prove otherwise
Ya obviously you aren’t going to get a 5’11 248 guy to play DE in the 3-4 but the heavier bigger ones. I just believe that if you are going to send a guy to rush the passer he might as well rush the passer instead of just occupying blockers.
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
If you want them to rush the pass in the 3-4
move to 4-3 or draft better OLBs. Or CBs cause in order for the 3-4 to work the DEs have to be doubled team for the offense to have any success. And thus they will need time to get to the QB.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
Your question could be its own post
There seems to be an obsession with the 3-4 DE “occupying blockers”, because that is the way many 3-4 coaches run it. But it does not have to be done that way. The original 3-4 defense of Parcells and Belichick won the Super Bowl with George Martin, a 4-3 RDE, playing 3-4 LDE. And he was not out there occupying blockers; he put up respectable sack numbers out there.
I think sometimes “occupying blockers” becomes an excuse for why a defender can’t get off the line. No one wants to say “he stinks”.
Want to see a little guy fight off blockers, put on some tape of Robert Mathis. It’s fascinating the way he can hold off some big RTs. Or watch Giants’ tape of Strahan and Tuck. Tuck is as skinny as the goalposts, but you can’t move him out of the way. No reason other DEs can’t learn the same thing. It’s all technique and strength.
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I thought Ngata was a DT
playing NT when you guys were in a 3-4 and DT in the 4-3
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
He plays everywhere on that team.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
Does he play OLB?
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Wouldn't doubt he could.
Have him play like Ware with very little drop backs in coverage. Although I think he may be able to play in coverage too.
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
Make him play CB
would be funny
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
Yes he actually has lined up at LB. We move him all over, but he does see a good amount of time at DE. He can play whatever technique you want him to and what’s scary is they are saying he has dropped 20 or 25 pounds which makes an already quick lineman even quicker.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Next year you will see him at CB
people will be like WTF
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
lol that receiver would piss his pants. I would probably run the other way. He is definitely one of the most physical freaks we have in this game. When we had Adalius Thomas we did throw him out at CB , so if we can throw a LB out there the next step is to try a DL.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
I would just call Time out
or fake an injury
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
yeah or motion yourself to the other side of the field.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
You would have a valid excuse though
"Hi my name is Cliff Harris and I am here to lock [site decorum] down" - Cliff Harris introduction at his Freshman Orientation
Reporter : "What do you remember about the BCS title game"
Cliff Harris: "That we lost"
If the Bucs sign Nnamdi, then i might accept your pick
If it's lonely at the top, I'd rather be alone
cause the closest people to ya, the ones who gonna do you wrong
Reynolds is an old fart, I don't see the Giants copying the Eagles draft strategy
they already drafted an RT of the future with Brewer who I don’t think is any less of a prospect then Reynolds anyway.
Passing on Trent Richardson, Steph Gilmore or even one of the WRs there is a mistake.
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
I'm not hating the pick this early
If they decide McKenzie is done, there is a hole at RT. And I could see the Giants liking a more mature player.
The strike against this pick is that the Giants give their draft picks lots of opportunity to cut it. Even though Brewer is only a 4th, if they like him they could groom him for awhile.
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun."
There will not only be 6 OL drafted in the 1st round.
This mock addresses OL talent earlier than most but there has to be a cause and effect, and ebb and flow when it comes to the amount of DL talent taken early last year. You can’t allow for that much talent to stroll thru the door and not counter it. I think OL will be a featured attraction early and often in next years draft and some guys will get over drafted because of it. Teams, smart teams at least can’t allow for things to get too far out of hand.
by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jul 12, 2011 8:17 AM EDT reply actions
I don't see the Steelers drafting an underperforming project if Reiff is still there
Or even DeCastro, for the matter
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jul 12, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions
Good job with the order. You nailed it
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 12, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions
why do I get the feeling you only truly agree with one pick?
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Like the pick for a Steelers
I think you will see the Steelers take one or two DTs next year.
Back on the Sweed train. Choo Choo!
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Nice early draft. It's still too early for my schitzophrenic brain to put 1 together.
Even if we go WR I doubt we go with Floyd It’s pretty hard to figure right now what position looks good for the Rams, our FA period will dictate that as with anyone. Our needs are so stark that any that aren’t addressed this year by default would jump to the top of next years needs. We got 2 WRs and a TE in the first 4 rounds this year and if that’s not enough, we probably will have a new FO being we ignored our O-line and DTs and OLB needs once again.
Floyd will have a damn fine NFL career and would be great value possibly at 21 but this FO seems way too committed to the 4 pillars bullshit to stray.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
Your first point is why I hate doing mocks this early
Like my Broncos, we don’t know if DT will be our biggest need next year. Maybe you go a different route away from WR, but honestly your teams future is all Bradford, and if a Floyd caliber WR makes him better I don’t see how you pass. Thanks for the feedback
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I would rather stay away from 2012 mock draft talk but
I am against a RB pick for the Jets, since I expect Shonn Greene to be very effective as a 70-30% starter, and ecspecially LaMichael James with his off-the-field problems. In general I don’t like first round RBs since you can pick a sure player later in the draft that can still contribute the same as a first rounder could.
Fair enough
I’m not going to make everyone happy. The chances may be slim you go RB but if your FO values a 3rd down back high wherever they pick and LT does retire/Joe McKnight shows nothing they could go that route sooner rather then later
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Bears vs Steelers would be the most boring SB ever.
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
For a Ravens fan
It would be an awesome Super Bowl, IMHO
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by seton hall and steelers on Jul 12, 2011 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Niners Ravens would be better
Think of the puns
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All that needs to be said…
Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years
Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.
There could be more
oh the possibilities. I’ll call the NFL to rig it.
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The order is truly irrelevant
I just looked at my post I put a link for at the Dolphins pick and did it through that
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I like GB getting an OLB,
they will see if Zombo or Walden breaks thru this season, but the chances are they both just play average wiith 3-5 sacks each, and GB goes for a rush OLB to pair with Matthews.
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Even if they do have a decent season
a Paige-Moss caliber rusher is hard to pass on, especially that late. A lot of 3-4 teams are developing the habit of “the more pass rushers the better.”
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I'm good with Worthy
Granted, a lot is dependent on Dalton’s play but if Worthy can solidify the talent worth picking him at ten overall, I can’t even be mad. The only real question left is who does he replace? I doubt he takes either of Sims’ or Atkin’s spots because both started putting it together at the end of the last season and were playing well. Peko is viewed as a team defensive leader, so I can’t see Marvin essentially replacing Peko a year later (all Mike Brown first-round picks start as a rookie unless it’s a QB).
I can’t consider an OT here, even if Whit is getting older. His play is still incredibly good (best LT in the league outside of Jake Long) even for his age. He can probably keep it up for a year or two before he starts to decline. I just don’t know where the Bengals would go here if it’s not Worthy. DE seems like an alright pick, depending on how Johnson plays out. The only realistic needs that I can see us having are CB and RB, both dependent on how our FA situation plays out now. We have the cap space to sign both Joseph and Hall but if we lose one or the other (and especially Adam Jones after that whole scuttlebutt he caused Sunday), then we have to invest in CBs again.
I like Atkins as well
but I don’t think he’s a Worthy like talent. Same goes for Sims. If Worthy puts up the stats his talent would suggest, I have trouble seeing them pass on less an equally talented player of a position of more need is available
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I know.
But I mean, we kinda did that this year when we opted for Green over Peterson.
by Doc Scratch on Jul 14, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Equally talented though
Green and Peterson, I didn’t have that in my mock. Things will change though obviously, we’ll see
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Don't think the Rams would select Floyd
He’s got character issues and the Rams have a zero tolerance policy for them.
In addition, we drafted 3 pass catchers this past draft.
I say we take either a RB (smh) Safety, CB, LB or DLineman.
Really dependent on BPA at that point.
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Zero tolerance policy may hinder such a pick
but honestly, no pass catchers you drafted have Floyd potential, nor do any WR’s on your roster now.
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I'd agree
but the character thing is the biggest no no.
In addition, I think SOMEONE will step up for us this year, and people will talk about RB as the biggest need next season. We are installing a 2 TE offense and I think that having a legitimate number 1 will be less of a concern, as long as our current guys stay healthy and can catch.
In addition, Danario Alexander will become a BEAST when his knee proves to be made of iron.
I wouldn’t be against Floyd myself, but the chances the Rams take him is in the single digit percentile range.
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I like the pick
I think the texans could go safety next year
but kenny tate has had issues with whether he is a SS or a LB. The fact that he is playing LB this next season may not help there.
I think the top saftey next year ends up being Ray Ray Armstrong.
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Nvm the texans probably dont need another safety
Just signed Daniel Manning and we Have glover Quin back there with him which means we should be good at the s POSITION
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List of Texans Needs: DT, LB, WR, Depth at other positions on defense
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Yeah well this was written after the Manning signing
and honestly, he’s more of a returner then a Safety. Probably not long term option
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Jaguars
A couple weeks ago I would of been fine with the pick but the Jaguars got Paul posluzny, and isn’t our pick on this mock a MLB? So if so, I probably wouldn’t think it’d happen. As for alternates, a DE, Safety, WR but its very speculative right now.
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by TheTealDeal on Aug 1, 2011 8:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I did this during the lockout
before Poz was signed
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Umm yeah... I'm pretty sure the only way the Dolphins pick first is if they trade up to that spot
I read your other post and it was about as off base as this one. The Dolphins aren’t a great team, but they are far from the worst team in the league.
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really?
if only they gave SB rings for your team’s 2nd stringers making up for your first strings crappy performance tonight, but com regular season, and I think the first half of tonight will happen more consistently
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