Too Early, Incredibly Inaccurate Mock with Incorrect Draft Order

You don’t see Alfonzo Dennard or Jared Crick as first round prospects?

LG is a possibility for GB, unless T.J. Lang takes over and dominates (unlikely).

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 2, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions

Either of those guys could go in the 1st

I don’t know if Crick will be a 3-4 DE or a 4-3 DT, Dennard might have been a better pick for the Eagles at 24 than Jenkins but I went with the better known prospect. Your boys are hard to pick for…I went with Potter because of his versatility.

by ENsDad27 on Jul 2, 2011 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions

I hope Crick goes to a 3-4 team.

I don’t want another Adam Carriker situation.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 3, 2011 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions

Amen to that

by RediculousAM on Jul 9, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions

The Colts early picks are squeaky clean guys

so despite being a good fit for value and position, I’m be surprised if they took him.

I like Broyles, great route running/hands and extremely productive, fits what the Colts like.

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by shake n bake on Jul 3, 2011 12:22 AM EDT reply actions

him being Floyd

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jul 3, 2011 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Broyles is my ideal Colts pick, dead on.

I see Michael Floyd as more of a Pittsburgh pick. He has the size that they lack at WR and he could be the heir apparent to Hines Ward.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jul 3, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions

Except we are the same when it comes to character.

Especially after last season.

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Jul 3, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions

I wouldn't say that Michael Floyd

is a great character issue, he did drink and get behind the wheel but I do think his poor judgement is behind him.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jul 3, 2011 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions

that was his 3rd legal issue with alcohol though

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jul 3, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions

Driving issues are more serious issues than they used to be

See Stallworth, Donte.

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by ct17 on Jul 4, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions

I still don't think one issue totally makes the issue a huge deal though.

Especially if a player has shown he has matured (Ravens fans love to beat that drum in regards to Jimmy Smith).

by Doc Scratch on Jul 5, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions

he blew a .19 and got popped for underage drinking last year too

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jul 5, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions

Jimmy hasn’t had any issues in 2 or 3 years now, so I would say he actually has proven that. I am with you though that some of the drinking stuff can be taken a little far. It just happens in college and young athletes are still human and will make mistakes. I’m not saying it’s ok and they should definitely be more focused somewhere else, but I don’t think based on just the drinking violations that it means they have true character issues. It’s more of just being young and dumb. Teams just need to do their homework on the players and find out if it’s real character issues or young and dumb because there is a difference between the two.

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by AV23 on Jul 5, 2011 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions

WR

I tend to agree that they would likely pass on Floyd given that there will be other options of equal value. I’m a little concerned about Broyles’ size. I have been very impressed with his on the field performance, but need another year to watch him. Right now, I might put Jeff Fuller a little ahead of him. I wouldn’t complain about either one though.

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by invisibulman on Jul 5, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah you never know how teams have them ranked. Broyles looks like he will be best suited in the slot where Fuller and Floyd are potential #1’s. I have heard people lower Fuller because he’s not fast, but he played extremely well against Patrick Peterson when they played. That game sold me on him.

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by AV23 on Jul 5, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions

Collie was thought to be a pure slot guy, but the Colts started using him on the outside last year

his game speed is way better than advertised.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jul 5, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions

doesn’t Collie still play in the slot the majority of the time though?

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by AV23 on Jul 5, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Obviously, the prefer to play him in the slot, but with all the injuries we had last year I remember him playing outside on several occasions. He did just fine outside. I think he is good enough to do either.

I agree with shake about his game speed. I also think he slimmed way down and got a lot faster last year from the year prior. I noticed it very early in the season that he looked a lot more fit and it really showed on the field.

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by invisibulman on Jul 5, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions

it was really noticeable when White was running the same routes

White has pretty good timed speed (4.49 combine 40), but obviously was a step slower than Collie.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jul 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions

looking at his highlights from last year I only saw two plays in there where he was on the outside and one was in a situation where they were bunched and the other was isolating him. Not saying he never does because you have watched him play more than I have, but it just looked like to me that he still plays slot the majority of the time or at least the times he’s effective.

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by AV23 on Jul 5, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions

bold statement: Jerel Worthy will be a bust

just feel it in my bones…

by vitzeng on Jul 3, 2011 2:25 AM EDT reply actions

3rd rounder in my eyes.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jul 3, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions

+1

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by James_C on Jul 3, 2011 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions

I have not seen much from him yet

We’ll see this year.

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by ct17 on Jul 4, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions

Don't know man

He was getting doubled and tripled yet still made plays, he definitely needs to work on his hands though.

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by ChiefWarPaint on Jul 8, 2011 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions

Amazing pick for the Ravens. I think Burfict is the best MLB prospect since Willis. IMO he is the ideal pick of any single person in the draft for the Ravens, just hopefully we are picking a little later than that.

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by AV23 on Jul 3, 2011 6:07 AM EDT reply actions

Well

no need to apologize for the draft order this time ENsDad!
….and a massive YES PLEASE to Manti Te’o at #32

Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 3, 2011 2:49 PM EDT reply actions

haha, thought you guys might like it

I thought the Giants were really good last year, it just seemed like improbable int.s/mishaps derailed your season, plus I think you guys had an extraordinary draft. As you know tho, draft order at this point is almost irrelevant.

by ENsDad27 on Jul 3, 2011 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions

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draft order at this point is almost irrelevant.

Yup. For all we know, your ‘skins could be picking at 32. All it takes is a nice little hot streak at the right time, plus a little bit of luck. An injury here, a bounce there, and everything’s up in the air.

As far as your mock draft goes, I don’t see anything that I think isn’t right. Not sure if Tenn will give up on a 1st round pick in Locker that easily, but who knows. Locker could get the “Jimmy Clausen treatment”

Also, not a fan of Marcus Forston. As a huge ‘Cane fan, I’m not very high on Forston’s skillset. Another that I don’t like is Nate Potter. From what I’ve seen so far, he doesn’t seem like a 1st round prospect to me.

‘Course, these opinions are all hogwash considering they haven’t played a down this year, but it’ll be interesting to see how things go.

Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 3, 2011 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions

reply below

by ENsDad27 on Jul 3, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

If the Skins are picking at 32

it will be because they ended up trading to get there…lol. I have Tenn. picking 1st but trading the pick to Arizona

Tennessee trades pick to Arizona for the Cardinals 1st & 2nd in 2012 & their 1st & in 2013.

I don’t think that they will give up on Locker that easily but I think he will struggle in his 1st season. I went with Forston because right now I think he is the best looking DT but that could easily change when the season starts. Potter I like because he can play all across the line & GB is really hard to mock, with their injured players coming back I am not too sure what their needs are.

by ENsDad27 on Jul 3, 2011 3:37 PM EDT reply actions

DE Ryan Pickett is getting up there in years. C Scott Wells is older as well. If James Jones doesn’t re-sign, we’ll need another WR at some point. James Starks still has plenty to prove at RB, as this will likely be Ryan Grant’s last season with GB. We still don’t have a clear starter at OLB across from matthews. Possibly another CB.

Does that help? A lot of these won’t be made clear until the games start though.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 3, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions

That definitely helps, thanx

I’ll keep those positions in mind for the next one.

by ENsDad27 on Jul 3, 2011 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions

No problem.

We have our bookend OTs for the next decade in Bulaga and Sherrod (hopefully) and Josh Sitton is a monster at RG. Aaron Rodgers is obviously our guy at QB.

Unless Finley gets hurt again or demands a ton of money, he’ll be our starting TE for a while. Greg Jennings – Jordy Nelson – Randall Cobb is our WR corps core, but you can never have enough pass catchers.

Tramon Williams and Sam Shields are a terrific young CB duo, although you can never have enough DBs. Nick Collins is a perennial Pro-Bowler and Morgan Burnett is the SS for the present and future.

The Claymaker has one OLB spot locked down, and we have our ILBs in Hawk and Bishop as well.

Crosby will likely be re-signed when the lockout is over, and Tim Masthay is our punter.

There you go. That’s probably more than you wanted, but it was fun talking about actual football.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 3, 2011 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions

No way Burfict slides

past Jacksonville.

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by rhettchrystal on Jul 3, 2011 4:22 PM EDT reply actions

I remember a lot of Jacksonville talk last year about picking LBs (not from you)

And they picked none.

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by ct17 on Jul 4, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions

That doesn't mean they don't need one.

Gene is a BAP guy, and picks who is BAP on his board. If a linebacker was BAP he would of definetley been the pick. We don’t have a starting MLB or WLB right now, and I’m sure a free agent or two will be signed, but there is a high chance that it is a patch, until we get a young guy(like Burfict) to take that spot.

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by rhettchrystal on Jul 4, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions

Then by that reasoning.....

They could take Jayron Hosley if they have him rated higher than Burfict

by ENsDad27 on Jul 4, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions

Considering Alualu, well...

by Doc Scratch on Jul 5, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions

Burfict

is a top 5 guy, the only reason I see him then not taking is, because I feel he has an attitude. He has heart and loves the game, but if he gets pushed/shoved/blocked when he doens’t expect it, he’ll throw a fist. He missed a tackle on a QB, and headbutted him.

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by rhettchrystal on Jul 5, 2011 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions

"With the 32nd pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the New York Giants select..."

Ahh, I can’t wait to here those words.

by Robin's-meats-and-vegetables on Jul 3, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions

I for one feel the draft order is correct

but you know the Giants ain’t picking a MLB

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 3, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions

Nah, they're going DL again.

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by Omaha Sun on Jul 3, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions

we just might.

Osi is getting up there in age and he wants out or a big contract which I can’t see happening. Kiwi may never be the same and he’s an UFA. The only sure things we have at DE is Justin Tuck and JPP, it’s never a bad thing to have 3 DEs.

by GoffAttack on Jul 4, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions

Still waiting to hear why you think the Ravens will go 9-7…

Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years

Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 4, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions

they'll lose 7 games

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 4, 2011 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs

Worthy 3rd overall?

No, unless he puts up Suh numbers (which is unlikely). He’s talented but has yet to produce to the level his talent would suggest, and even that might not be top 5.

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by DBroncs1414 on Jul 3, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

If Matt Barkley and Andrew Luck go to the NFC West

then I’m done.

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by manraj7 on Jul 3, 2011 9:22 PM EDT reply actions

Troy Smith > than both of them.

Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years

Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 4, 2011 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions

He isn't going to be resigned

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by manraj7 on Jul 4, 2011 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions

Cardinals aren't giving up 2 1sts and a 2nd to move 3 spots.

That’s insane. Besides, they will get a QB as soon as free agency begins. Wouldn’t mind Troy Smith getting signed there. Better than what is there now. Only Skelton is worth keeping at all.

by hadrarius on Jul 4, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions

i dunno

as of right now, a 1st and 2nd to move up 3 spots is a small price to pay if your going to get Andrew Luck out of it. That’s basically what the falcons gave up to get Julio Jones, and IMO, Luck as a prospect >>>>>>>>> Jones

Keep Jose Reyes, Trade Fred Wilpon

by BigBlueIntervention on Jul 4, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions

Two firsts and a 2nd.

But it’s really beside the point. They need to get a quarterback now, not in the next draft. If they want to keep Fitzgerald they better show they are serious about resolving this problem. Waiting until the next draft is too late. It will cost less to get Kolb. Fitz is on record as wanting Kolb in AZ too. Sitting on their hands to get a QB could mean the best receiver in the league leaving town too.

by hadrarius on Jul 4, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions

Yes get Kolb to Az

would prefer that to Luck. Make Luck go to the AFC

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by manraj7 on Jul 4, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions

Giants fans find that reasonable

Since we gave up two 1sts and a 3rd to get Eli. Turned into Rivers, Merriman, and Kaeding.

It’s all just speculation now since we do not know what will happen in FA. If they do not get a QB now, even if Fitz leaves, you still need a franchise QB. If Skelton does not play well, Luck is a good pick.

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by ct17 on Jul 4, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm starting my petition now

No luck for the NFC west

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by manraj7 on Jul 5, 2011 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions

Love the Burfict pick, but no freaking way we are picking at 21, not with our schedule.

Flacco's first 3 years vs. Brady's, Manning's and Brees' first 3 years

Flacco threw for just 21 fewer passing yards than Brady and tossed four fewer interceptions. Flacco threw for 1,655 more yards than Brees, two more touchdowns and four fewer picks. Manning, who averaged 88 more passes per season, threw for way more yards and touchdowns than Flacco, but also tossed 24 more interceptions.

by Mr MaLoR on Jul 4, 2011 1:06 AM EDT reply actions

In my play-off scenario

The Ravens were the wild card after finishing 2nd to the Steelers & lost in the 1st rd. to the Chargers. Baltimore could just as easily be the SB winners

by ENsDad27 on Jul 4, 2011 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions

especially when you're going to lose 7 games

by GoffAttack on Jul 4, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions

I'm having a hard time

Confusing the 2011 actual draft with my mocks for teams.

I like Upshaw climbing up, he shows natural 3-4 talent. Would definitely put Crick in the 1st, though.

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by ct17 on Jul 4, 2011 8:54 AM EDT reply actions

I don't want Manti Te'o

I like Goff better and he’s the same as Goff to me. If we ran a 3-4 then I would like the pick.

I could see us drafting another CB in next years draft, especially if we have the last pick in the 1st round. And since we have such a late pick, I could also see us reaching for a need, like a Left Tackle or Center. I could also see us picking up a Defensive End or Running Back, because those are usually the best players available that late in each round.

by GoffAttack on Jul 4, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions

I like Goff too

but he’s not even close to being in Te’o ‘s class. If we managed to steal Te’o at #32, you could pencil us in the SB the next year too. LBzers don’t mean much, but one that good does.

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by Rorschach44 on Jul 5, 2011 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions

If we had to draft a LB

I would rather Luke Kuechly. He’s more athletic than Te’o and he could play all 3 LB positions. He’s also better in coverage than Te’o too. Although I’d have to admit that Te’o is a better tackler (not by much) and blitzer.

After watching Te’o’s film, he probably is a better MLB than Goff. I’d just rather a guy who could do it all at OLB.

by GoffAttack on Jul 5, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions

I have a hard time believing J'ville is better than TB. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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by 4QB on Jul 4, 2011 11:19 PM EDT reply actions

Only one way to settle it

You each take 100 fans and meet up in Gainesville. No hits above the shoulders or below the belt. Winner takes the state (after foreclosing upon the entire city of Miami).

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by ct17 on Jul 4, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions

Miami is gonna be trash next year anyway.

Probably. I don’t think anyone read the chemistry memo, so saying your coach could be out and you want a better QB is really gonna help that synergy well.

by Doc Scratch on Jul 5, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions