Mock Draft One Round w/ Trades
by AdRoK on Jan 17, 2012 12:02 PM EST
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1. Colts - Andrew Luck QB
2. Rams - Matt Kalil LT
3. Browns - RGIII QB (Trade with Vikings)
4. Panthers - Justin Blackmon WR (Trade with Vikings, From Browns)
5. Bucs - Trent Richardson RB {alt. Mo Claiborne CB}
6. Skins - Luke Kuechly ILB
7. Jags - Jonathan Martin LT
8. Cowboys - Morris Claiborne CB (Trade with Miami) {alt. Dallas takes Kirkpatrick CB}
9. Vikings - Riley Reiff LT (From Panthers)
10. Bills - Quinton Coples DE
11. Chiefs - Courtney Upshaw LB
12. Seahawks - Andre Branch DE
13. Cards - Michael Floyd WR
14. Vikings - David Decastro G (Trade with Miami, From Dallas)
15. Eagles - Vontaze Burfict ILB
16. Jets - Melvin Ingram OLB
17. Bengals - Dre Kirkpatrick CB {alt. Trent Richardson RB}
18. Chargers - Jarvis Jones OLB
19. Bears - Alshon Jeffrey WR
20. Titans - Alonzo Dennard CB {alt. Mark Barron S}
21. Bengals - David Wilson RB {alt. Janoris Jenkins CB}
22. Miami - Mike Adams RT (From Minnesota, From Cleveland in trade for 3rd pick)
23. Lions - Peter Konz C
24. Steelers - Dontari Poe NT
25. Broncos - Lamar Miller RB
26. Texans - Kendall Wright WR
27. Patriots - Mark Barron S {alt. Devon Still DL}
28. Packers - Jayron Hosely CB {alt. Alonzo Dennard}
29. 49ers - Michael Brockers DT
30. Patriots - Devon Still DL {alt. Mercilus Wiley}
31. Ravens - Dont'a Hightower ILB
32. Giants - Fletcher Cox DT
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Bucs
I like Richardson even though #5 is really early for him, but no way I’d take him over Claiborne in any circumstance.
That appears to be the opinion between at least two Bucs fans. Claiborne probably has better value anyways, which is typically how the Bucs draft, so that is the more likely scenario (taking Mo).
i think they take Claiborne too, The Redskins...
however will NOT be taking a Middle Linebacker. Unless London Fletcher leaves in Free Agency
My thoughts are like London Fletcher on the field: Everywhere. Oh, and Fear the Turtle!
by HailToTheRedskins on Jan 20, 2012 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I love where the Giants are picking, not a fan of the actual pick though.
We have too many DTs as is. I would LOVE Cordy Glenn.
I support the Giants like bras support Kim Kardashian's boobs. It can be a struggle, we've had some jiggles, but we're still firm.
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 17, 2012 12:15 PM EST reply actions
I like Cox. pause, because he is the type of hybrid lineman that the Giants look for. Big Blue though has one more year of Osi, and Canty costs a lot of money. The guard pick isn’t a bad one but the Giants haven’t drafted a OL in the 1st round since Luke Pettigout in 1999 and they always seem to be mocked to take one.
haha I like Cox as well (another pause)
Canty might be expensive, but we probably get rid of David Diehl (who costs more and is much worse of a player than Canty) which is why I opined that we might get a Guard.
If you go DL, we don’t need DT even without Canty because we have Linval Joseph, Rocky Bernard, Marvin Austin, and Jimmy Kennedy. We probably keep Canty and go with those five as is.
I’d rather go DE as hilarious as it sounds. I think everybody knows Osi is gone after this year, probably traded. I just noticed that you don’t have Whitney Mercilus mocked to a team either. He’d be an awesome fit for us as a rotational DE if Osi leaves. The Giants like to overload on strengths, and replenish those strengths every time. We do a good job rushing the passer, so having JPP, Tuck, Kiwi, and Mercilus would be a little ridiculous as well.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 17, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe picking up Mercilus would make me feel better about not getting Kevin Hardy or Simeon Rice :)
I think Cox will prove in the combine that he’s capable of playing end and getting at the QB. Also, he can probably help the team in run defense at the position. He really is the kind of athletic freak they love adding to that line.
ps I’m not saying he’ll be back next year or that he isn’t too expensive but give the man some credit because David Diehl is the starting LT for the Giants right now.
He deserves all the credit in the world...but at LG he was a swinging gate, and Beatty is better than him at LT
and he’s owed something like $8 million. Out of sentimentality, I love the dude…he’s been up there with Seubert and O’Hara as one of my favorite Giants. Unfortunately, sentimentality does little for you in this business.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 17, 2012 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
McKenzie's contract is gone
Diehl will stay one more year. He and Osi are gone in 2013, maybe Jacobs as well. I think Rolle is gone before Canty if they need money.
No more DTs
2012 mock (Manningham resigns) - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB / Chase Minnifield CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keenan Robinson SAM, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
(Manningham lost) - 1: Marvin McNutt WR, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keith Tandy CB, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
derp. I forgot that Mac was a FA.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 17, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
give the man some respect.
b4 this year, he was widley considered the best RT in the league.
i srill think he has some left in him
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
He WAS considered the best
But now he’s one of the worst. He’s way too old and way too injury prone to risk having him protect Eli, we need ourselves a new and improved RT.
u guys are making it seam like his glory days were 5 years ago.
just last year he was the best.
dont u think that its a little weird their was sucha decline in one year?
id give him one more year atleast.
if he’s healthy, he’s great
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
agree again.
id prefer DE than DT
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
agree on buth
efer sanu or glennr a tight end.
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Kirkpatrick for the Bengals at 17 is awesome...
But David Wilson is a MAJOR reach at 21. I honestly think there’s a chance he falls to our second rounder.
Cincy Jungle: Where the Rocky Mountains are in the Pacific Ocean
No way I see some of these picks playing out
Bucs will take Claiborne, Cowboys take Kirkpatrick, Richardson falls to #17 where the Bengals take him
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 17, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
What the...? Richardson over Claiborne (who is clearly a better player and a much greater need)?
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I don’t want to argue who the better player is but the Bucs were 30th in the league in rushing this season. It might not be their biggest need but it’s right up there.
That's largely because Olson wouldn't give Blount carries
Down by 3? ABANDON THE RUN!!! Not down? Give Lumpkin his carries!
Our real RB need is a 3rd down back. Think LaMichael James in the third. I love Richardson and him and Blount would be a great 1-2 punch, but not anywhere near #5. Maybe if Claiborne is gone and we trade down.
The Bucs taking Richardson when the have Ronde Barber possibly about to retire would not be wise
Blount is their #1 RB & they need a change of pace RB. That can be found later. CB is a bigger need than RB
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 17, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
It isn't just Ronde either
Talib may be in jail or at least suspended next year. And we already needed a 3rd corner with those 2 on the field. With Ronde and Talib gone we are in big trouble.
richardson is probably the best non qb prospect in this draft
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Kalil is a lineman. we get no respect/recognition.
i was talking in terms of skill player
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Left tackle is a skill position.
"You've got to respect your opponent, no matter who it is. You respect him best by going out there and beating him up." - Calvin Johnson
i used to play LT (Now Just DT)
and we are the big guys.
Skill positions are everything but TE, Dline and Oline
thats how they are grouped
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Well in theory yes
But I’ve never liked the neglect of the lines, takes a lot of skill to play those positions.
it is the most important position in football,
but i like the non-recognition.
because when other teams start to know ur name as a lineman, than u truely are great.
so really only the great lineman get recognized, i wish it was like that for every position, there would be less dumb endorsments for ur local sporting stores
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
absolutely not!!
Kalil and maybe even Claiborne are two guys in my mind that are better prospects than T-Rich. To be very honest, T-Rich is quite overrated in my opinion, and I am thinking he will not have as much success in the NFL as most people expect.
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i think he is the best HB prospect since maybe peterson.
the guy has speed, power, and hands.
he can block aswell
im not a supporter of taking HBs in the first round (Not Even In madden franchise) but richardson is the acception. and should be the only HB taken in the first this year
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Titans would more likely take Konz or Barron with the way this draft falls.
FS Griffin and SS Hope are going to be gone. CB Finnigen is likely ot be resigned and even if he isnt we have 2 good young CB behind him, Jason McCourty (Better than he brother) and ATV. So CB isnt a real need, rather take the top C or the Top S.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Jan 17, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions
Kendall Wright doesn't fit what the Texans do, plus Kubiak likes his WRs over 6'1"
Dwight Jones or Nick Toon are the more likely pick for the Texans
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
What the Texans do is let Andre Johnson get double teamed :) To each his own I guess. I do like Jones though because he played in UNC’s prostyle offense. Not that Nick Toon would be a bad choice either.
Regardless, if Kubiak wanted a speed demon at WR, Trindon Holliday would have seen the field already
Kubiak needs WRs that are big, strong, has good hands, run good routes, & most importantly can block downfield in the running game. Dwight Jones & Nick Toon fit that description. Also I can’t see Wright eventually becoming a #1 WR in Kubiak’s offense either.
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 17, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I still like Sanu more than any other WR.
But Jones and Toon are close behind.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
agree
but idk bout toon
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
The issue with Toon is his foot
I’ve watched him alot at Wisc, he’d be a great #2 and and decent #1 at the next level in my opinion, but he’s had reoccuring foot problems that could cause him to miss a game here and there if it continues.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Jan 17, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
eh, i just havent heard much on him.
i’ll have to take ur word for his skill as a #2.
is he speed or possesion?
cause the foot would worry me a lot if he were more of a speed guy
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
He's a possession WR
Probably would run a 4.53 if he’s healthy at the combine
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 18, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
ah. thats good then, most possesion guys get stress fractures or what not in their feet
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
It would be a pretty nice dream to see Cam lined up with Blackmon and Steve Smith,
but what would the cost be to see it happen? Now back to reality, we still need defense…
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 17, 2012 1:08 PM EST reply actions
Jags
If Claiborne falls(which he won’t) he is the pick. If he does not fall, Kirkpatrick might be the pick, but I could live with Martin since he very well might be the BAP
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What is the Trade Compensation for Miami? You have us trading back twice. 8-14 and 14-22.
I am familar with the value chart, but, I would hope for a 1st in 2013 for the 8-14 pick and a 2nd in 2012 for the 14-22 pick? Just wondering.
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Texans
A Texan WR needs to be able to block in the run game, and we almost never go deep. So a deep threat of WR is pointless in the Texans Offense.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
If they are going to draft a WR than in my scenario it looks like there are clearly some good options out there for them. They would actually be in a good position to trade their pick into an early pick in the 2nd round.
Trading down to the early 2nd would be a dream for Houston
so many options a WR that would be great value.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
Cowboys.
I can’t see us trading up for Claiborne. I think the price would be too steep, and we need all the picks we can get.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
maybe a trade for RG3
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah no chance in hell that happens.
Tony wasn’t the problem this year at all. It’s our defense that needs the help.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
tony is not a SB QB.
he is the league average.
u need DBs, a QB, and some lineman
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
he's not a league average QB
stop being a homer.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
haha, u guys can think what u want.
but he has proven nothing to me (or anyone) that says he is top 10.
he just barely makes my top 15
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
I cannot believe I am defending Tony Romo, but I can only think of 8 QBs I'd take over Romo
In no particular order: Brady, Brees, Rodgers, E. Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers, Stafford, P.Manning (healthy). Romo, Vick, and Cutler would be in the mix.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
id take schaub, newton, Dalton, cutler, freeman, bradford,
Tebow wins games, so maybe him.
idk bout vicks health. but a healthy vick way over him.
romo has proved to me he no longer belongs in the top 10 QB debate.
last year i was defending him against eagle fans (well i did point out his many flaws, and he was exactly #10)
last year he was 10 for me,
this year he is anywhere from 13-16
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
He doesn't state the terms
I’m so confused, everyone gets free trade-ups and the trade downs have no perks. Any trade up in this draft is solid gold.
Try not to take the above message too seriously.
love where the giants are picking
so i shall not critiuque ur draft
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
Jason Peire Paul (JPP) 2011-2012 NFL Defensive player of the year
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions
Hard to believe the Redskins would pass up Claiborne for Kuechly.
Corner is a greater need and Claiborne is a better prospect.
I don't see the Skins drafting an ILB in the early rounds this year
I expect London Fletcher to be resigned and Perry Riley is developing nicely at the other ILB spot. Keyaron Fox is a serviceable backup to both positions. ILB is going to wait at least another year. I’d really almost be surprised if we drafted a corner early this year too, since we signed Wilson in FA last offseason and have a good bit of money invested in D Hall.
This is the early I've seen him in any mock. What can I say? I'm a believer.
This isn’t a sexy pick for the Skins but man this guy can play football. 532 tackles in 3 years! Kuechly could potentially replace Fletch with similar numbers for cheaper and longer… I’m not sure why the Skins should wait until next year. Aren’t you sick of waiting until next year?
Well yes, all of us Skins fans are
but that has nothing to do with the ILB position. We need help on offense in the worst possible way.
Stop drafting DT's to the 49ers
Everybody. Just stop it. Our starters are solid and despite Justin’s age he’s not slowing down so the “get a guy to learn from the best theory” will have that 1st round pick sitting on the bench for 3 more years.
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by Ougadas on Jan 17, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
actually agree.
the 49ers have probably the best front 8 in the league.
a very scary team, they can stop the run and rush the passer.
fearsome D.
the 49ers should be drafting offense or DB
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 17, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
we also have a couple of guys who have been sitting on the bench for a while
They play well. As well as Justin Smith? Obviously no but they play well… Also I agree Justin isn’t slowing down he is speeding up and with Aldon Smith in the Smith tandem is just going to get more deadly…
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Will do.
In my mock… Who would you have the 49ers take? Chase Minnifield CB? {alt. Jayron Hosely?} WR?
Well if the Pats
Go for Devon Still first and then try for Barron we take Barron before their 2nd 1st round selection.
But if they go Barron first then I think we have to look at Martin if we think he’s a high second round guy (bottom of the first is already 2nd round talent), depending on how FA works out safety might be more pressing a need than CB — and our breakdowns in pass coverage this year have mostly been safety issues — not corner ones.
Or we could go right to the offensive line, where our team has major issues. Snyder is a backup swing tackle playing guard and can’t move anyone off the ball. Davis is a guard playing tackle and has been a revolving door most of the year to anyone who has any speed on the corner. The coaches seem to like Davis for some reason but Snyder’s merely average run blocking on a team that wants to run power football may be a reason to find a new starter.
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Markell Martin?
It’s also likely that the Pats’ try to trade the pick and maybe look at a safety possibly early in the 2nd.
You really can’t go wrong taking an OL.
You really can't
At least in our shoes.
There are just a couple complications that might make the decision tough. If Konz survives there’s no issue, we take him.
But he won’t be there. We could go with Glenn, but we also like to pull our guards quite often which may make a guy like Zeitler a better choice.
Realistically we won’t take a tackle. We should probably move Davis inside to guard and take a tackle, but the coaching staff seems to be very patient with him — after all, he’ll have 2 seasons experience and is younger than many of the rookies this year. For example he’s one month younger than Cordy Glenn.
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Bills
If the Bills are serious about not switching back to a 4-3, I think Upshaw would be a better fit then Coples.
Marty Hurney stated he will be going Bpa at 9 instead
of trading up for Blackmond. The panthers defense sucks, Ron Rivers seems to like the current wr on the roster. He also seems to like the current Dt on the roster, probably blowing smoke though.
by adam carter on Jan 17, 2012 5:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Oh wow calm down
I just said Hurney is going Bpa instead of trading up.
i was agreeing with you
wasnt really aimed at you so much as the post, just putting it together with other Panthers posts
Browns
This draft is a 100% DUD!!!!!! Zero is the rating I give it. No way chance in hell do the browns give up 2 #1 picks to move up one spot.
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by TheDriveStillHurts on Jan 18, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
2 first round picks to move up 1 spot? over a team that doesnt need a QB?
and you’ll be in position to take the top WR, your biggest need. I could not fathom making a move like this
our first pick being WR depends on how our FA recruiting and signing went. I’m hoping to NOT have to need to take a WR so high. Would love to pick up both of the jacksons, and the guy from New orleans.
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Lose…………….
No one ever heard of RGIII till this season, wasn’t on any radars. If I was to give up two #1 picks in a single draft it would be to take Andrew Luck. Plain and simple, RGIII is a way bigger crap shoot thean Cam Newton was. He isn’t worthy of the #4 pick.
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Chiefs
We don’t need another OLB, we have Hali and Houston.
DeCastro is a much better pick, need to get more stout upfront for short yardage/goal situations.
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two thumbs down for me
I have to admit that this was a terrible pick. Could Trent Richardson end in KC? The Chiefs could look to trade down if they’re just interested in interior OL.
Chiefs could look to trade down, and likely will
I hope that Pioli does not look at a RB in the first. However what Berry showed us, and even Houston, was if the talent level if high enough he will take the player. There was a quote going around that safeties shouldn’t be taken that high, but Berry is an great talent and he scooped him up, Houston fell and we snatched him up in the 3rd last year. DeCastro fits that mold very well, one of the best prospects in a long time at a position of need.
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by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 18, 2012 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
Cardinals
While the Cardinals do need a #2 WR to start opposite of Fitz, I am under the impression they will be looking for more of a speed guy to stretch the field, and Floyd does not fit that profile. I would say more of a Kendall Wright kind of WR would fit the need better, but #13 is probably a little bit of a reach for him at this point. The way your draft fell, I would definitely either pick DeCastro to help out the horrible OL, or trade down and try to get the 2nd rounder we spent on Kolb back..
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+1
In this scenario the cardinals would decastro
by CardsDefense on Jan 18, 2012 7:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bills fan here.
Hell no to Coples. Also, Michael Brockers, in my opinion, probably won’t get out of the top 15 with his upside. Brockers to the Bills would be much better value.
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by NordicBillsfan on Jan 17, 2012 11:27 PM EST reply actions
I like Brockers
I have a feeling the next time I do a mock (after the combines) he is going to be a much higher pick. I can see the Panthers taking a stab at him. I have him falling because I’ve read questions about his ability to be a starter in his first season.
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I know I would love Brockers unless we magically get a shot at RGIII. Even though we can use more pass rush, having it come from the interior is much better for us.
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Kudos for some original picks
Kuechly at #6. Love the idea.
2012 mock (Manningham resigns) - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB / Chase Minnifield CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keenan Robinson SAM, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
(Manningham lost) - 1: Marvin McNutt WR, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keith Tandy CB, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
I like it too but I need to see the trades
You should put what the trades are in these mocks so people can get an idea of what you feel is adequate compensation
yeah mabye i dunno
If I had done any more rounds than I obviously would have done more with the trade compensations but you never know what’s going to happen to those picks later in the draft. They could still be moved for other picks, players, or whatev…
Martin is ok but if Claiborne is falling..
he is the pick or they will trade someone the pick, either way he is going at number 7.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 19, 2012 2:04 PM EST reply actions
Carolina
There is NO WAY on GOD’s green earth we TRADE UP to get Blackmon. I love the skill set (for someone ELSE’S ball club) , but we just spent 3 picks to find 1 reciever less than 24 months ago. Of those 3, 2 finished in the top 5 (4th and 5th behind (TB) Mike Williams and Jordan Shipley) of all rookie recievers in 2010. Then last year we bought in the #20 WR from that same 2010 class (Seyi Ajyrotutu). So in short WR is not a need AT ALL. our biggest needs are CB, S, OL. So by those needs I would mock Kirkpatrick @ #9. But I will say I think we WILL trade, but NOT up, we move back some where around 15-21 range and pick up Jenoris Jenkins CB (FLA) or Barron S (Ala). So to help in future mocks you can go to CATSCRATCHREADER.COM to get the REAL PULSE OF THE PANTHERS!
Love it! Except....
Morris Claiborne won’t make it to #8. Kirkpatrick is a nice consolation prize though. Easy to see Jerry pulling the trigger on that trade if Claiborne is available. Too steep of a price for Kirkpatrick IMO. If Kirkpatrick makes it to 17 in your draft model then Dallas would probably be more inclined to just sit and wait for him to fall. Too bad Dallas has way too many needs to part ways with our 2nd round pick and potentially more.
Broncos
I’d love to see the Broncos take Miller in the first.
One criticism I have about this mock is that you have two MLBs going in the top 15. That probably won’t happen.
I’m not sure that Burfict is picked in the first round. He’s going to slide. In a league where the team who makes the fewest mistakes often wins, why would any team choose an idiot who makes tons of brainless mistakes in the first round?
Truth shall be known.
by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 21, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions
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