Five Round Draft with Compensatory Picks & a couple of Trades
by ENsDad27 on Jan 18, 2012 5:50 PM EST
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Print- I wanted to do the whole seven but by the 5th I had run out of team needs & was just throwing darts for my picks so I stopped it at five. Thanx to rhettchrystal for his Post where everyone listed their team needs.Thanx as well to ct17 (thanx Craig) for his fine work on compensatory picks. I used Walterfootball for the draft order & used a variety of sources for my Big Board (MTDs top 100http://www.mockingthedraft.com/pages/2012-nfl-draft-overall-rankings, Wes Buntings NFPhttp://www.nationalfootballpost.com/scouting_department.html, New Era Scouting http://www.newerascouting.com/nfl-draft/overall-rankings/& nepatriotsdraft.comhttp://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/
Round 1
- Indianapolis – Andrew Luck QB Stanford – Explanations are unnecessary, the Colts again take a once in a decade prospect to build a team around.
- St. Louis – Matt Kalil LT USC – The Rams take one of the best LT prospects in years who can protect their investment in Sam Bradford. Trading this pick to a team going after RGIII is also a real possibility but IMO Kalil is a much higher talent than any of the other LTs in this draft & the Rams go quality over quantity.
- Minnesota trade to Washington - Robert Griffin III Baylor - Redskins trade their 1st, 2nd & 2013 2nd to move up four spots & grab RGIII . RGIII is an elite talent who has tremendous upside, he is a highly accurate passer with elite mobility. He is still a raw prospect who will have a steep learning curve but could be a franchise QB.
- Cleveland – Justin Blackmon WR Ok. St. – Browns decide to go with the best receiver in this draft & not give up their 2nd rd. pick & get an elite playmaker who will start immediately. Great size, hands & body control.
- Tampa Bay – Morris Claiborne CB LSU – The Bucs get an elite player in Claiborne who starts immediately & continues to shut down half of the field.
- Washington trade to Minnesota – Riley Reiff LT Iowa – Vikes give Ponder some much needed protection by picking a very good LT who should be able to anchor their line for the next ten years.
- Jacksonville - Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina – Jags grab a very good target for Gabbert. Jeffery is an extremely talented wide out who has suffered from inferior QBs.
- Miami trade to Cincinnati - Trent Richardson RB Alabama – Bengals trade Oaklands 1st, their own 2nd & 4th to move up nine spots & grab the last "elite" player in this draft. Richardson is a beast who has no flaws in his game. By getting an elite runner, Dalton is able to become an even better QB.
- Carolina - Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama – Kirkpatrick is a hard hitting CB who moved himself into top ten consideration with an excellent performance in the N.C. He is big, extremely talented & would immediately upgrade a defense that was disappointing last year.
- Buffalo – Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama – The Bills get an extremely versatile player who can play either as an OLBer or as an ILBer. Upshaw can get after the passer, clog the middle or drop back into coverage.
- Kansas City – David DeCastro G Stanford – Best Guard in this draft
- Seattle – Quinton Coples UNC – An elite talent who under performed this season, his incredible athleticism keeps him the top half of the 1st rd.
- Arizona - Jonathon Martin LT Stanford – Cards give up on Levi Brown & draft an extremely hard working & talented prospect who should be able to step in & protect Kolb’s blindside
- Dallas – Nick Perry OLB USC – Cowboys add a threat on the other side from Ware to get after the QB.
- Philadelphia - Luke Kuechly ILB BC – Eagles get an elite player who has great instincts & intelligence. Kuechly is the type of player who IMO will make the entire defense better by his presence on the field.
- New York Jets – Melvin Ingram OLB South Carolina – Jets get an extremely athletic 3-4 OLBer who who can set the edge & really get after the QB. He will immediately upgrade their pass rush.
- Miami – Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A & M – Dolphins grab a talented & intelligent QB who will definitely need time to develop. Chad Hennes days in Miami are over & Moore is not quite the answer. Tannehill will quiet the fan base who hopefully will give him the time to become an NFL caliber QB.
- San Diego - Michael Floyd WR N.D. – I am not sure if VJax is back next year but either way I think that Floyd would be a good #1 or an excellent #2 & a great target for Rivers.
- Chicago – Cordy Glenn G Georgia – Bears pick up a huge protector for Cutler who will also open up holes for Forte
- Tennessee – Peter Konz C Wisconsin – Titans grab the best Center in this class to upgrade their offensive line.
- Cincinnati – Kendall Wright WR Baylor – If Bengals weren’t mad at me for trading away picks for Richardson then they probably will be for taking a WR when they drafted Green last year but I think that Wright makes a lot of sense for a couple of reasons. He is a completely different type of receiver compared to Green & could line up either in the slot or on the other side. I also think that with the type of talent & strength/toughness that Wright has, he will be hard to jam at the line & will take some of the pressure off of Green.
- Cleveland - from Atlanta – Zach Brown LB UNC – Browns get the best 4-3 LBer in this draft
- Detroit - Dwayne Allen TE Clemson - Big pass catching TEs are becoming much more highly valued than in past drafts. Vernon Davis, Fred Davis & Gronkenstein have proved to be mismatches for opposing CBs & LBers. Allen would add another dimension to Staffords game & takes some pressure off of Johnson.
- Pittsburgh – Dontari Poe NT Memphis – This was a tough pick for me & I doubt that Steeler fans like it. Poe should be a dominant NT with his size & 1st step but I am not so sure…
- Denver – Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska – The Broncos defense was very good but an upgrade at the corner would be a large improvement.
- Houston – Devon Still DT/NT PSU –Still might be a good fit in Wade Phillips 3-4, he is similar to Ratliff IMO but not to sure if he would be a good fit for their scheme
- New England - from New Orleans – Whitney Mercilus OLB/DE Illinois – Mercilus can get after the passer, something the Patriots struggled with during the regular season. I think that his versatility will appeal to Bill Belichek as they seem to switch between a 3-4 & a 4-3 D
- Green Bay – Jared Crick DE Nebraska – Packers get a very good DE who can set the edge or get after the passer
- San Francisco - Stephen Gilmore CB South Carolina – An under rated CB who would make a good defense even better. Good size for the position with average speed.
- Baltimore – Vontaze Burfict ILB Arizona St. – The endless search for Ray Lewis’s successor ends with an extremely talented player who finds the same competitive spirit he has in Baltimore
- . New. York Giants –Janoris Jenkins CB Northern Alabama – Some team will get a very good CB value in Jenkins who has dropped because of character concerns brought on by an over familiarity with a certain plant.
- New England – Nick Toon WR Wisconsin – Good size, speed & hands to give Brady a good target that’s not a TE.
· Atlanta -> Cleveland: Julio Jones
· New Orleans -> New England: Mark Ingram
· Oakland -> Cincinnati: Carson Palmer
My trades Redskins trade the Vikes their 1st, 2nd & next years 2nd for Minnesota’s 1st
Bengals trade the Dolphins the Raiders1st, their own 2nd & 4th for Miamis 1st
Round 2
- St. Louis – Mohamed Sanu WR Rutgers
- Indianapolis – Chase Minnifield CB UVA
- Minnesota – Jerel Worthy DT Michigan St
- Tampa Bay – Mike Adams RT OSU
- Cleveland – Zebrie Sanders RT FSU
- Jacksonville – Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin
- Washington traded to Minnesota – Dwight Jones WR North Carolina
- Carolina – Fletcher Cox DT Miss. St.
- Buffalo – Vinny Curry OLB Marshall
- Miami – Mark Barron SS Alabama
- Seattle –
- Kansas City – Ben Jones C Georgia
- Dallas – Don’t’a Hightower ILB Alabama
- Philadelphia – Markelle Martin FS Ok. St.
- New York Jets – Chris Polk RB Washington
- New England - from Oakland – David Wilson RB Va. Tech
- San Diego – Alameda Ta’amu NT Washington
- Chicago – Brandon Thompson DT Clemson
- Philadelphia - from Arizona – Ronnell Lewis OLB Ok.
- Tennessee – Michael Brockers DT LSU
- Cincinnati traded to Miami - Andre Branch OLB Clemson
- Detroit – Keleche Osemele G Iowa St.
- Atlanta – Coby Fleener TE Stanford
- Pittsburgh – Brandon Washington G Miami
- Denver – Marvin McNutt WR Iowa
- Houston – Rueben Randle WR LSU
- New Orleans – Lavonte David OLB Nebraska
- Green Bay – Bruce Irvin OLB WVU
- San Francisco – Keenan Robinson OLB Texas
- Baltimore Aaron Henry FS Wisconsin
- New York Giants - Lamar Miller RB Miami – BBI gets his guy :o)
- New England – Robert Lester FS Alabama
· Oakland -> New England: Joseph Barksdale and Taiwan Jones
· Arizona -> Philadelphia: Kevin Kolb
Round 3
- Indianapolis – Billy Winn DT Boise St.
- St. Louis – Jayron Hosley CB Va. Tech
- Minnesota – Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
- Cleveland – Brandon Weeden QB Ok. St.
- Tampa Bay - LaMichael James RB Oregon
- Washington – Josh Chapman NT Alabama
- Jacksonville – Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma
- Buffalo – Trumaine Johnson CB Montana
- Miami - Nate Potter T Boise St.
- Chicago - from Carolina Tommy Streeter WR Miami
- Kansas City – Nick Foles QB Arizona
- Seattle – Johnathon Massaquoi OLB Troy
- Philadelphia – Brian Quick WR Appalachian St.
- New York Jets –.Brandon Mosley RT Auburn
- Oakland
- San Diego - Doug Martin RB Boise St.
- Chicago – Brandon Lindsey OLB Pitt.
- Arizona – Antonio Allen SS South Carolina
- Dallas – Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
- Tennessee - Orson Charles TE Georgia
- Cincinnati – Amini Silatolu G Midwestern St.
- Atlanta – Don Barclay T WVU
- Detroit - Keenan Robinson OLB Texas
- Pittsburgh – Chase Thomas OLB Stanford
- Denver – Kawaan Short DT Purdue
- Houston – Audie Cole ILB North Carolina St.
- New Orleans – Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
- Green Bay – Sean Spence LB Miami
- San Francisco – Ricky Wagner T Wisconsin
- Baltimore – Michael Brewster C Ohio St.
- New York Giants – Senio Kelemete G Washington
- New England - Levy Adcock RT Ok. St
Comp. picks
- Oakland – Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin
- Minnesota – Michael Egnew TE Missouri
- Oakland – Shaun Prater CB Iowa
· Carolina -> Chicago: Greg Olsen
· Raiders used 3rd-round pick on Terrelle Pryor in supplemental draft
Round 4
- St. Louis – Kendall Reyes DT Connecticut
- Indianapolis – Chris Givens WR Wake Forrest
- Minnesota – Casey Hayward CB Vanderbilt
- Philadelphia - from Tampa Bay – Tyler Nielsen LB Iowa
- Cleveland – George Iloka FS Boise St.
- Jacksonville – Juron Criner WR Arizona
- Washington – Josh Robinson CB UCF
- Miami – Bernard Pierce RB Temple
- Carolina – Nigel Bradham OLB FSU
- Buffalo – T.Y. Hilton WR FIU
- Seattle – Dan Herron RB Ohio St.
- Kansas City – Ladarius Green TE La. Lafayette
- New York Jets – Devier Posey WR Ohio St.
- Washington - from Oakland – Jeff Allen T Illinois
- San Diego – Matt McCants T UAB
- Chicago – Kevin Reddick MLB UNC
- Arizona – Ryan Swopes WR Texas A&M
- Dallas – Kelvin Beachum G SMU
- Philadelphia - Kirk Cousins QB Michigan St.
- Tennessee – Harrison Smith SS Notre Dame
- Cincinnati traded to Miami – Cyrus Grey RB Texas A&M
- Detroit – Desmond Trufant CB Washington
- Cleveland - from Atlanta – Brandon Taylor FS LSU
- Pittsburgh – Winston Guy Jr. SS Kentucky
- Denver – Tank Carder MLB TCU
- Houston – Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma
- New Orleans – Bobby Massie T Ole Miss
- Green Bay – Marcus Forston DT Miami
- San Francisco – Isiah Pead RB Cincinnati
- Buffalo - from Baltimore - Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M
- New York Giants – Bobby Wagner OLB Utah St.
- New England – Coryell Judie CB Texas A&M
Comp. picks
- Green Bay – Trenton Robinson FS Michigan St.
- Minnesota – Neiko Thorpe FS Auburn
- Indianapolis – Trevor Guyton DE California
- Baltimore – Omar Bolden CB Arizona St.
- Green Bay – Matt Reynolds T BYU
- Dallas – Brock Osweiller QB Arizona St.
- Oakland – Shea McClellin OLB Boise St.
· Atlanta -> Cleveland: Julio Jones
· Oakland -> Washington: Jason Campbell
· Tampa Bay -> Philadelphia: Luke Stocker
· Baltimore -> Buffalo: Lee Evans
Round 5
- Indianapolis – Danny Trevathon LB Kentucky
- Denver - from St. Louis – Lucas Nix G Pitt.
- Minnesota – Marquis Maze WR Alabama
- Cleveland – Ryan Miller G Colorado
- Tampa Bay -Mychal Kendricks ILB California
- Washington – David Molk C Michigan
- Jacksonville Jake Bequette DE Arkansas
- Carolina – Blake Gideon FS Texas
- Buffalo – Case Keenum QB Houston
- Miami – Lonnie Edwards G Texas Tech
- Kansas City – Mister Cobble NT Kentucky
- Seattle – Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati
- Oakland – Rokevius Watkins G South Carolina
- San Diego – DeAngelo Peterson TE LSU
- Chicago – Eddie Whitley FS Va. Tech
- Arizona – Jacques Smith OLB Missourri
- Dallas - Cliff Harris CB/KR Oregon
- Philadelphia – Jarrett Boykin WR Va. Tech
- New York Jets – Tony Dye SS UCLA
- Tennessee – Jordan White WR Western Michigan
- Cincinnati – Joel Foreman G Michigan St.
- Atlanta - Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma
- Detroit - Andrew Datko RT FSU
- Pittsburgh - Julian Miller OLB WVU
- Denver – Terrence Ganaway RB Baylor
- Houston – William Vlachos C Alabama
- New Orleans - Jack Crawford DE PSU
- Green Bay – Brett Roy DE Nevada
- San Francisco – Jarius Wright WR Arkansas
- Baltimore – Nico Johnson ILB Alabama
- New York Giants – Phillip Blake C Baylor
- - Cincinnati from New England – Jaymes Brooks G Va. Tech
· New England -> Cincinnati: Chad Ochocinco
· St. Louis -> Denver: Brandon Lloyd
· Oakland -> Seattle: Aaron Curry
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Jags
1)Jeffery is a sexy pick for the Jags given the need at WR, but the pick is just not good. He is not BAP at the selection. Too many questions in his game right now to be wroth the 7th pick. Kirkpatrick or Martin would be the better picks in my opinion [Personally I say Kirkpatrick]
2) Once again, not a very good pick. Zeitler is not a top of the second round talent, and contrary to what Jags fan might say, OG is not that big of a need, if it is even a need. Vinny Curry or one of the WRs (Dwight Jones, Marvin McNutt) are the better picks.[Personally, I go Curry]
3)Only reason I dislike the pick is because of me taking Kirkpatrick in the 1st. If the pick was a CB, I would take a different CB but that would be your big board differing from mine. IMO, the guys to consider are Brian Quick and Tommy Streeter. {Close call for me, but I personally think Streeter might be the better pick of the 2]
4) I greatly dislike Criner as a prospect and do not think he will amount to much in the NFL. Personally, I think T.Y. Hilton is a better pick at WR, and other guys to consider would be Tank Carder, Desmond Trufant, Bobby Wagner. [If it were me, I would be going with Hilton]
5)Bequette would be phenomenal value in the 5th round, and I definitely would approve of the pick. Other names to consider would be Lonnie Edwards, Jordan White. [I probably go Bequette although White is a very tempting player to pick up in the 5th]
On a totally different note, you have repeats. The ones I caught:(1)Bobby Wagner @ 4.31 and 5.5 (2)Brandon Lindsay @ 3.17 and 5.16
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Thanx Jags
I know that my opinion of Jefferys is much higher than many but I really think that he will be an elite receiver in the NFL. Look what he did against Dennard in their Bowl match-up. I really feel that he suffered thru some extremely mediocre QB talent at South Carolina. I also disagree on Criner & actually felt like I had underestimated his draft worth in the 4th. It really comes down to where we differ on players value.I hate it when I repeat picks, I was getting in a hurry to finish by the 5th & got sloppy
I will say this about Jeffery
he comes into the workouts at a good weight, has a good showing in the 40 and puts together a nice set of workouts and I could be on board with the pick, but right now I am just a bit concerned with him.
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First of all, 5 rds is dedication, so applause. Now to see how you did:
The Packers, I loved what I saw in the first 2 picks, but not the rest. Crick and Irvin both great. Spence is meh but he’s good value. But then you got 2 more DLs, that means we got THREE DTs, and no Defensive Backs.
Texans: Good work, all picks are very good, need and value match.
Good job with the Phins too, except a TE will be sought in rds 2-4, but Tannehill and the other picks are good.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
Not sure where you see three DTs
1 – Jared Crick DE
2 – Bruce Irvin OLB
3 – Sean Spence LB
4 – Marcus Forston DT
Comp. Trenton Robinson FS
Comp. Matt Reynolds T
5 – Brett Roy DE
I thought that your offense didn’t really need much but your D could use a lot of talent
All 3 of those guys
Crick, Forston, and Roy are all going to play DE in the 3-4, which is the same as DT pretty much. 3 guys at the exact same position is too much.
Sorry I didn’t see Robinson I didn’t notice we had 2 comp picks, I only saw Reynolds. That’s why I said “and no Defensive Backs”.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Jan 18, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
I see your point
but both Forston (who at one point was considered a low 1st high 2nd prospect) & Roy were both BAP more than need based picks. For team needs for the Packers I had DE & Rush OLBer as your primary & Safety as your secondary from one source & DE,OLB,S & G from another. I will keep your suggestions in mind for my next one…
Cool.
And just letting you know, after addressing those main needs while taking BAP into account (to some extent of course), you can also look at adding a speedy RB, a Center (for the long-term), a cornerback, and a backup developmental QB, as possible late-round picks, but none of those will be addressed early on.
Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
by BlackPack-fan on Jan 18, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Too much interior OL for the G's
RT is the biggest spot that needs to be looked at.
I think I’d go with Dwight Jones or Michael Brockers over Jenkins too. Jenkins is a nipplehead, the Giants don’t go that route especially in the first round. Maybe he falls to us in the 2nd or third like Manningham did
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I think they drafted Brewer for RT
They don’t want Rolle playing CB again. But I could see them passing Jenkins for a good character/legacy guy like Minnifield.
2012 mock (Manningham resigns) - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB / Chase Minnifield CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keenan Robinson SAM, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
(Manningham lost) - 1: Marvin McNutt WR, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keith Tandy CB, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
Sounds like Marvin Austin
except we drafted him.
by The Cole Train on Jan 19, 2012 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
well done young man...5 rounds that is awesome!!!
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you have Doug Martin going to both the chargers and broncos. SD in the 3rd and Denver in the 5th.
by Bron#1 Fan on Jan 18, 2012 6:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I love miller in the 1st
And would even more in the 2nd
RIP Nick Adenhart
by miketrout on Jan 18, 2012 6:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Steelers
I’m not sure how I feel about Poe in the first. I think I need to see his combine and watch some more tape before I agree he is a first rounder. The pick certainly fits a need.
Otherwise, it looks good except for drafting 2 OLB and 0 ILBs.
PS-rec for doing 5 rounds, bravo
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yea 2 OLBs doesnt really make sense for steelers
replace Thomas with Audie Cole in the 3rd and you’d have a pretty damn good draft for them.
by steel.curtain.number2 on Jan 23, 2012 2:21 AM EST up reply actions
A couple more
Wagner T Wisconsin, Trufant CB Washington
Also you gave away Keenan Robinson OLB Texas twice.
2012 mock (Manningham resigns) - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB / Chase Minnifield CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keenan Robinson SAM, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
(Manningham lost) - 1: Marvin McNutt WR, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keith Tandy CB, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
Rams
If the draft fell like this; I cannot see The Rams improving much. They would do better to entertain trade offers.
IMO, St.Louis in accordance to this mock, would do better by taking:
1. Blackmon
2. Lamar Miller
3. Josh Chapman
4. Casey Hayward
if we dont resign brandon lloyd
We should take aj Jenkins in round 6 and blackmon. I think they would make a nice pair.
I like that idea.
AJ Jenkins is an underrated WR.
Here's my breakdown of the Texans picks
1st – There’s pretty much a 0% chance they go DT in the first round. WR is too big of a need right now. This pick will go in one of three ways, either it will be Dwight Jones, Nick Toon, or Mohamed Sanu. They need someone who can step in & be a #2 WR & eventually become the #1 when Andre retires
2nd – Since they’re not going with a NT in the 1st, they’ll take one in the 2nd. If Josh Chapman is still on the board, they’ll take him
3rd – They need some depth & possibly a future starter on the interior O-Line. Best available guard on the board is Senio Kelemete, so they’ll take him.
4th – Texans need some depth at safety. Since Wade Phillips likes guys that can cover more ground, Trenton Robinson would be the way to go. However this could also end up being an OLB if Mario Williams isn’t resigned. If that’s the case, they’ll probably go with Bobby Wagner (Note: you have Wagner picked twice, once at the bottom of the 4th, again at the top of the 5th)
5th – This is the only pick I can’t complain about. They need depth in the interior O-Line, however they could look at someone with some KR/PR skills here if it’s not addressed in free agency
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
Im not sure you can say theres a 0% chance they go DT in the first
I think this mock shook out pretty well for the texans and I could say theres a chance it works out this way.
2 Wideouts, Defensive Tackle, ILB, Guard Depth. Fills needs with some good value. I think this works out pretty well.
Theres some confusion on the DT topic with Wade Phillips.
Some people say Antonio Smith might move inside with Mario Williams taking over as a DE again.
Some people are saying we draft a smaller penetrating tackle.
Its not clear what exactly is going to happen.
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My thinking on this is that they'll sign one WR in free agency to fill Jacoby's role
I think either Eddie Royal or Ted Ginn Jr would be the best options for that. Even in that scenario, I think they look for an upgrade over Kevin Walter in the first round. I don’t like the group of WRs that are there in the bottom of the 2nd round. I like Chapman in the 2nd round over any of the WRs at that spot. Dwight Jones, Toon, & Sanu are the best fits for the Texans offense, which is why I go with one of them in the 1st round. ILB is not as much of as need as some think. We have Cushing, Demeco, Sharpton, Alexander, Dobbins, plus Cheta on the practice squad. The way I addressed it, I took a WR, NT, OG, a toss up between a FS & an OLB (if Mario is gone), & a toss up between a Center & a KR/PR.
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 18, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
first round comments:
1st, 2nd & 2013 2nd to move up four spots
will take atleast 2 two’s
Do the giants trade up 1 spot to give the pats some kinda moral victory?
and if the pats are drafting a WR, they are taking sanu.
they have basically become the nfl pipeline of rutgers
no complaints on the giants first pick.
will continue reading
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 7:24 PM EST reply actions
would prefer james to miller
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 7:26 PM EST reply actions
no no no no no.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I mean I like James
but not over Miller, and not in the 2nd.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
wouldnt like any of the HBs in the 2nd
but if that were to be the route.
i’d prefer the speed guy that has return ability over miller
Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Cardinals draft was great!
Addressed a lot of needs.
by CardsDefense on Jan 18, 2012 7:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I hate the first rounder for the Lions.
They are already loaded at TE, with Pettigrew and Scheffler, who combined forover 1100 yards, over 100 catches, and 11 TD’s, with Pettigrew 2nd on the Lions in receptions and yards, and Scheff is tied for 2nd inTD’s. Jenkins, Burfict, or Gilmore would all be much better options.
Tengo el sangre del tigre.
The Texans are proof you can never have too many TEs
We have so many, some play defense or moved to other positions. Both our starting tackles moved from TE to OT in college, Connor Barwin moved from TE to DE before his senior year, James Casey moved from TE to FB before this season, J.J. Watt played TE at Central Michigan, then moved to DE at Wisconsin, and lastly Garrett Graham, our #3 TE, played some snaps at OLB in Week 17. If you’ve played TE before, Kubiak will find a place on the roster for you
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 18, 2012 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
But how many guys do you have that still
play TE? We already have 3 good ones. We’ve got one who is a great blocker in Heller, one who is a great receiver in Scheffler, and one who is great at both in Pettigrew. Heller also plays some H-back/fullback for the Lions, too.
Tengo el sangre del tigre.
I actually hope we get rid of Heller, personally.
But still, I can’t get behind the first pick. I don’t think it matches need or BPA, it seems really off the mark and I kind of question what the thinking process was for that. Scheffler already takes a lot of advantage of Johnson’s coverage and Pettigrew is an astounding blocker.
I agree, Jenkins, Burfict, Gilmore. Dennard… hell, even Barron, would have caused me way less pause.
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We still have 4
Casey rotates from FB to TE, plus we have Owen Daniels, Joel Dreesen, & Garrett Graham
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 20, 2012 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
I understand your reasoning
mine was that Mayhew does a similar tactic to last year, not filling a need but making a great player even greater. By taking Fairley last year, I think that he was trying to take some of the pressure off of Suh. In my draft, by taking the best TE (Dwayne Allen) they make Calvin Johnson better by taking some of the coverage away from him. If you already have very talented TEs then I agree the pick is not good but that was my logic for making the pick in the 1st place. On my next one, it will be a different player/position but possibly the same logic, any suggestions ??
I seem to be the only one
thinking this, but I see the Lions taking Burfict. In my mind, he is a lot like Fairley, in that he has tremendous talent, but will fall because of character concerns and “dirty” play. He would come to a position where we already have talent, but he is athletic enough to where the Lions could probably move him around from inside to outside a little bit, and he fits the mentality of the rest of the defense. Otherwise, it could be Konz, Dennard, Jenkins, maybe even Kirkpatrick, if you think he’ll fall because of his arrest.
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chiefs
i ike it!
DeCastro is the man, curently my favorite choice for KC
i like the C, TE, NT and QB picks… but…
with Hudson ready to takeover for Weigs, and DeCastro in rd 1, it’d be smarter to get a RT in rd 2, S depth is another BIG need to address at some point… along w RB… but, overall, pretty good 5 rds
by stagdsp on Jan 18, 2012 8:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions
or
go with Ta’amu in rd 2, and Datko in rd 5…
by stagdsp on Jan 18, 2012 8:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Or
DeCastro
Hightower/Miller/Brockers
Mosley/Iloka/Antonio Allen/Adcock
Massie/Thorpe/Osweiller/Reynolds
Whitley/Jacques Smith
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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 18, 2012 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Miller would make one hell of a combo with Charles
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Alameda Ta’amu NT/DE 2012 Draftee
by BAMFSpecialOps on Jan 19, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Chiefs redraft
1. David Decastro, G, Stanford
BPA at a position of need
2. Michael Brockers, DE, LSU
Easily BPA and a position we could use improvement. Allows flexibility with Jackson and Dorsey
3. Brandon Mosley, OT, Auburn
Solid RT prospect in a run oriented offense.
4. Harrison Smith, SS, Notre Dame
Big SS to help cover TE’s and provide depth for EB.
5. Terrence Ganaway, RB, Baylor
Downhill runner that gains tough yards.
by Jonathan Hake on Jan 19, 2012 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Brockers is making it out of the first round.
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I agree but in his draft he's available so i'll take him.
He will go top 15 imo.
by Jonathan Hake on Jan 19, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
I like that he took some OLine needs
Just not 4 straight O players. They’ll break up that streak and put a D guy in there somewhere.
I don't think we take 2 o line players that are both interior lineman.
by Jonathan Hake on Jan 19, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
yep one inside and one outside
Awesome work ens and rec on the post
by Steve_Chiefs on Jan 19, 2012 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Almost no problems with the Giants draft
I’d prefer Adcock in the 3rd, we don’t really need guards, but I’m fine with taking a Center. General question, I though Brockers was a 1st round pick, is there a chance he falls to the 2nd round?
This.
Jenkins (or Dwight Jones) would be the perfect picks for me. Lamar Miller in the 2nd (Oh HELL YES, thank you very much ENs)
I wouldn’t mind Adcock, though he’s a little weak to be a good RT in our system, I would think. I’d take Brandon Taylor there…safety is a need if we get rid of Grant or Rolle.
Great mock, mate.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 18, 2012 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
we're not getting rid of rolle after this playoff run
grant is a must go.
2nd slowest saftey in the league (CC, im looking at u)
think TT can step up and be FS if it comes down to the need of getting rid of rolle tho
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
& also congrats on beating the Packers
& good luck against the 49ers….as you can see by my draft order, I think that you guys are SB bound
thanks mate, appreciate it.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 19, 2012 7:51 AM EST up reply actions
thanx 4 teh wishes.
but why do u have us trading back to the pats?
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 19, 2012 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
Grant will probably go
But I bet they are looking to put Sash in that 3rd safety role (Or Chad Jones, but I refuse to put any of my eggs in that basket, but I’m praying for the guy. It’s a miracle he’s walking, I don’t expect him to play football.) I have a hard time choosing between Jones and Jenkins, Jenkins is very talented, but at the same time Jones on our offense would make us almost unstoppable. Add Miller into the equation and BOOM goes the dynamite. It would not be crazy to expect some 50 or 60 point games.
Sash should get more time
But as you can see by my sig, I’d take Thorpe in the 4th. Rolle is just too expensive to last long. Rather give his money to Phillips (UFA 2013).
Overall this is pretty good. Hard to argue players I have not scouted (can’t say I caught any Utah State games). Probably would not take two interior OL though, not the Giants style.
2012 mock (Manningham resigns) - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB / Chase Minnifield CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keenan Robinson SAM, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
(Manningham lost) - 1: Marvin McNutt WR, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keith Tandy CB, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
Even with his injury
I’m taking Jones. He still has good speed and his instincts were raved about. His size is excellent in our system and can be an effective 3rd safety. Not a fan at all of Sash
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I've got to try and get some film on this Thorpe dude. If you have any links, I might go youtube draftnik on this one haha
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 19, 2012 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
i dont know if i rlly like jones?
who is he similar too, and whats he good at? i saw highlights, but he has a lot of drops
He's 6'4 210 lbs and runs a 4.45.
He’s a matchup nightmare.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 19, 2012 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
A decent comparison is Hakeem Nicks
the are some fairly similar (though Jones is bigger) and they are both from UNC
Nice job Ens
I like the picks. Even though I don’t really know the NT out of Bama. I especially like the Molk pick in the fifth. He is a good leader that plays well and with heart. One question though..how did you figure out the picks required to get RG3?
OH YEAH!!!
by the maroon bird on Jan 18, 2012 8:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanx MB
One question though..how did you figure out the picks required to get RG3?
Our 1st & 2nd were close using the draft value chart, I threw in next years 2nd because of the extra value placed on a talent like RGIII (so basically I made it up)
With Dre K recently being caught with weed,
his draft stock could drop him out of the top 10. I could see the cowboys trading up for Dre K or the cardinals to get J. Martin if they are in need of a tackle to 9th overall.
by adam carter on Jan 18, 2012 9:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Colts
No real complaints about the Colts. I’m not so sure about a DT in the third, but there weren’t really any receivers or corners I liked around that spot. Givens is ok in the fourth but Broyles typifies what the Colts look for in a reciever so I’d they’d go with him over Givens. In fact, the only pick I’m not on board with is the linebacker in the fifth. The Colts are really set at linebacker and will probably be able to resign Ernie Sims and Phillip Wheeler for cheap. However, the Colts are going to need a right guard and Nix would be tough to pass up. The Colts may also look for a center earlier in the draft because it looks like Jeff Saturday is going to retire.
Two things
1. I’m just suggesting you bold your picks, it’s a bit tough to read
2. Brockers at #52? He’s gonna be a top 10 pick
Other than that good work, 5 rounds isn’t easy
Kenny Powers is back!
Oh and Bills picks are basically the same as every other Bills mock I’ve seen. I’m praying for Brockers, DeCastro, or Martin. Then get OLBs later, this draft is loaded with 34 rushers
Kenny Powers is back!
I see this as the other way
The draft is loaded with 34 DE’s, but not that many 34 OLBers.
Upshaw, Ingram, Curry, Ronnell Lewis, Perry, Mercilus, Irvin, etc. This draft is loaded with 3-4 OLBs.
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The way I see it
Only a few top to good talent: Upshaw, Ingram, Perry.
The rest all have issues to prove. Andre Branch needs to prove that he can stand up and run. Mercilus needs to show he has the hips and flexibility to play the position. Curry likewise needs to show he can make the transition and must convince people he can produce when facing better talent. And while Irvin looks like he can make the transition, he needs to prove that he can set the edge.
Sure, there are a bunch of players that can play the 34 OLB, just not that many impact guys. The rest all have issues or need a few years of development.
2. Brockers at #52? He’s gonna be a top 10 pick
top 10 in the 2nd round?
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
No top 10 1st round. By the end of all the offseason workout and combine I can see him going as high as #3 Minnesota(If they keep the pick)
Kenny Powers is back!
doubt it.
Id like to think sanu would be top 10 after workouts this offseason.
but their not gonna take him their.
and minny isnt taking a reach at the #3 pick
i see him as a late first-mid 2nd
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
He has elite size with frame to add size, can play diverse scheme, good athleticism, but very raw. With a good offseason his stock with soar.
Kenny Powers is back!
we talking bout brockers or sanu?
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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
ah.
i do agree that he is a good player.
but i dont think this is the year interior lineman will be drafted
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 19, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
Brockers will be going in the 1st
I would be shocked if he somehow did not picked in the first 32 picks. Unless something really odd happens between now and the draft, he won’t make it past 32.
i just dont see that many Dlineman going in the 1st this year
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 18, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Another Ram guy
Loved it. I’d like Blackmon, but taking Sanu is really nice (hopefully). I’m in love with Bradham to the Rams right now, but DT/OLB are both needs in the middle rounds and you hit it on the head with Kendall. Great Mock!
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Good haul for the Jets
2012 mock (Manningham resigns) - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB / Chase Minnifield CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keenan Robinson SAM, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
(Manningham lost) - 1: Marvin McNutt WR, 2: Kevin Zeitler LG / Ben Jones C-LG / Cordy Glenn LG-RT, 3: Keith Tandy CB, 4: Neiko Thorpe FS, 5: Vic Ballard RB / Brandon Bolden RB
No Second round pick for Seattle?
Otherwise good job.
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Cowboys
Nick Perry is ok but I’d rather have Ingram, I like him better as an OLB opposite Ware. Lol the fact that you gave us an ILB in the 2nd says that you know how we draft BUT I’m hoping that not the case this year, I can’t believe that Brockers is still there in the 2nd but if he is we jump up and take him for sure. In the third you gave a CB which is good, but I don’t much about the prospect. I like the 4th round pick and the 4th round comp pick could be a QB to groom behind Romo even though we have bigger needs on defense. And CB is a huge need so grabbing 2 in the draft would be great. Good mock overall.
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 18, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions
Several Problems with the Cowboys draft.
1. you do not address the 2 biggest needs for Dallas until way to late. OLB is more of an uprade than a need. Dallas needs OL and DBs. Also DE is a much bigger need than OLB.
2. Brandon Boykin is staying for his senior year as is Robert Lester.
Props for a 5 round mock, but I could definitely like to see a few mods.
1) Kontz from Wisconsin in the first. We have to solidify the line.
2) Love to trade up and grab Barron, but Hightower could replace Almost Anthony.
3) Like I said Boykin is staying and I would love BPA DB or DT
the rest can be pure BPA. If we get Cliff Harris that late I will dance a jig.
Wars are won in the trenches and we need some new big uglies!
Doesn't Hightower play ILB?
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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 19, 2012 1:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yes he does
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 19, 2012 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
Boykin is a senior bud
"I got the 9 on me so I think I'm Romo"
Fabolous
by Archie Barberio on Jan 19, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
I hadn't heard about Lester returning
but Boykin is playing in the Senior Bowl & is definitely not returning. Cliff Harris is talented but keeps getting into really stupid trouble, getting thrown off of your team really hurts your draft stock. I will keep your other suggestions in mind for my next one tho.
Lester did go back to school
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 20, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Saints
Great job. Would love to see Ladarius Green drop to us in the fourth, but I doubt it will happen. Green and Graham, the new Gronk and Hernandez!
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 19, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
That’s an understatement lol
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haha.
if Eli had him.
Damn!
6000 yards easily
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Jan 20, 2012 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't Robert Lester staying at Bama?
And what’s the reasoning for giving the Patriots a running back?
Just curious.
Adding to the committee?
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by The Night Owl on Jan 19, 2012 2:14 AM EST up reply actions
They just drafted Ridley and Vereen and extended Woodhead.
BJGE is a free agent, but Belichick loves him because he doesn’t fumble. Don’t see another RB that early.
by Richard Hill on Jan 19, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
Bengals
Can’t see ML doing this at all and Cb not addressed at all though you did give us three guards none of which we want
If they get a CB in FA, and bring back Adam Jones that's fine
but if they sit on their hands in Free Agency and have this draft, I’d be a little pissed.
by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 20, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
A 5 round draft and the 49ers
Didn’t get a single starter and only the 1st rounder has a chance to start anywhere in the next 2-3 years and even that is a tossup.
We get a corner who would be #4 on the depth chart, a 4-3 linebacker when we run a 3-4, a tackle that is staying in school, a 3rd down back who isn’t better than Kendall Hunter, and a slot receiver that isn’t better than Kyle Williams.
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well done doing 5 rounds
from a jets perspective i liked the draft . you have certainly addressed needs with all our picks so great job .
Polk isn’t a massive need but i like the thought of him and Greene together .
the only thing i’d really do differently would draft Guy JR instead of Posey and maybe Dalko in the 5th .
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i want jeffery in green at pick 16
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Ravens
Not bad at all for us. Love the 1st and 3rd round picks. I think the 2nd may be a little too early for Henry and I question his ability to really become a solid starter in the league. It’s a need, but I don’t think we reach for it. With the way the board fell I would probably prefer to go with one of the big WR’s like Streeter or Quick because their upside is at least a lot higher than Henry’s IMO.
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Bucs - I like it
The Claiborne and James picks are both great. The Mike Adams pick is interesting. I like it, although I’m sure it would be a controversial pick on bucs boards. He’s a slipping first round talent. It is a little high for a RT but I think it would be worth it. Trueblood is terrible, and that is a huge upgrade to the line in the weakest spot. And Trueblood might (MIGHT) be able to play LG negating his slow feet, upgrading that spot. Then Zuttah slides to center and we dump Faine. It might be 3 upgrades to the line with a single pick.
Atlanta
Most people are aware of our future TE need and have one of the top 3 TEs going to the Falcons with our second round pick.
Our OLine struggled with our attempt to run less pass more, so adding to it is a good move although I am not familiar with Don Barclay.
Flemming in the 5th round would be a huge steal in IMO, that would be great.
overall, pretty good picks considering the Falcons are without a 1st or 4th rounder
LIONS
with pettigrew and sheffler in the fold there is absolutely no way the lions take a tight end in the first round. thanks for the 5 round mock though football junkie and love the read. good work. lions will go defense or o-line
IMO Andre Branch is more a mid 1st rounder, not mid second
others that seem little low: Broyles, Marcus Forston, and Andrew Datko (all season ending injuries, but that doesn’t always knock you down that low)
also Jeff Fuller, Coryell Judie, Josh Chapman, and Jarius Wright all seem a little low to me
also I agree Dwayne Allen is too similar to Pettigrew for Detroit to pick him
but overall an excellent job!
I think you correctly identified
Ben Jones, Hightower, Fleener, Mark Barron, and Lamar Miller as 2nd round picks (many others have them in the first)
you have the Dolphins taking 2 rbs in the 4th round...
I think they would take a WR with that 2nd pick inthe 4th round (Ryan Browles is a perfect fit)
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Vikes draft
Overall not bad. I think you targeted the correct positions. For me personally I like Jonathan Martin more than Riley Reiff. But I like the trade because I gives us more ammo to right the ship.
I wish you would have addressed the secondary with 2 picks instead of 2 receivers. I love the Hayward pick, and I would be stoked if we got him in the 4th (I think he climbs into the early 3rd round, possibly late 2nd). I would have liked Mark Barron in the 2nd over Worthy. Then maybe Josh Chapman or Kawaan Short in the 3rd over Lewis. Or stick with Lewis in the 3rd and get Derek Wolfe in the 5th (I think he goes much earlier, 3rd at least). I would have liked Lonnie Edwards in the 5th as well.
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Jaguars
I think Jeffery is a good start, but would change it up afterwoods.
First I don’t like Zeitler’s value there especially with guys like Curry, Branch, and Miller there. I think Lamar Miller’s value if available at this pick would be too much to pass up despite having the leading rushing in the NFL. Miller could take the load off of MJD and add some extra explosiveness when MJD is out.
I’m not high on Fleming either, especially when Brewster is there. He’s a guy I think will end up teal at the end of April. Real Gene Smith type of guy and the need is there as Meester is aging.
Criner is a good pick, but Fuller may be a better one. Both would be a solid addition to the Jaguars atrocious WR core.
While I do like Bequette, I think Datko represents more value especially with the question marks at RT for the Jaguars.
awesome Cowboys mock here
wow
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 19, 2012 12:57 PM EST reply actions
hey, daddio, fellow Skins fan...
after reading all these comments, it appears you have done awesome!!!!! Congrats, bro.
Also, love the selection of RG3. We now can turn the corner….
Jags
Solid Draft in my opinion. Jeffery, Fleming, Criner, and Bequette are all really good picks. As far Zeitler goes, I can’t see them drafting a G unless he can play RT otherwise, they are just using a 2nd round pick on a depth guy. Overall though, I like it.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 19, 2012 2:01 PM EST reply actions
Panthers
Nice job at knowing our team needs and kudos for taking the time to do a 5 rounder with comp picks and trades. Adjustments- though we need a playmaker there badly, I doubt the Panthers go DT in the second round since they have a lot of mid-level guys there already. However if Brockers is still there on the board as you predict, the fanbase would do backflips to be able to get him and Kirpatrick in the same draft! Other guys that would be likely if still on the board in round 2 would be Barron (would he really drop that far?), Lewis at OLB, or Lester at FS.
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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 19, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions
Bengals
I don’t think Brown will pull the trigger to move up. Kendall Wright would surprise me but I don’t hate the pick. I know we need help at guard really bad but not to the point we draft 3 of them.
I feel a little mixed about this draft.
I love Richardson and Wright in terms of talent. If they got those two players, the Bengals offense would be totally transformed. But…they are giving up a lot in order to make that happen.
It depends on what the Bengals do this offseason. If they are able to fill some holes before the draft – in this case, if they pick a free agent CB or two – then I would like this draft.
However, three guards is a bit excessive. They still have Boling waiting in the wings. I could also see them bringing Bobbie Williams back on a one year deal.
by Animal_Like_Football on Jan 20, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Browns
Your right in the fact that Cleveland doesnt want to give up any draft picks to move up to any spot. Now, I dont think that minny is going to get the nod of trading away RGIII. Still think that the #4 spot is where he gets traded.
I dont hate the Blackmon pick, and I like the LB pick in the first. Somehow you swapped the 2nd round picks around, clevelands got the 36th pick not 37th – though a ORT wouldn’t be too bad there. Hate the 3rd pick – need a DE there.
The 4th round you went with FS twice, Thinking RB & then FS. 5th round is gonna be another LB or DE.
See going after Ben Grubbs (OG), and Samuels (CB), Jackson (either Vincent or Desean or both – WR), and another LB in free agency will fill in many holes and add quality free agents. The talent level on the Browns has grown considerably in the last two years.
Cleveland goes 8-8 to 10-6, in part of the easier schedule not counting division games.
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If Polk is there for the Jets in rd2...
I’m not sure if I would want to pass him up, despite all the needs we need to fill.
Dolphins
Amazing draft for the fins except round four. The dolphins don’t need a running back and definitely don’t need two. A better pick would’ve been a tight end (Ladarius Green), a wide reciever (Ryan Swope or Ryan Broyles), or o-line depth and secondary depth. Other than that it is a fantastic draft and I really love the Tannehill pick and the Andre Branch pick.
One thing:
Kawaan Short DT Purdue
He is coming back for his senior year.
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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jan 19, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions
Loved the Eagles picks
The first 4 picks you made for us are gang-busters. Kuechly needs to join our team, Martin could team with Nate Allen to finally give us a nice young set of safeties (sorry Jarrett), Ronnel Lewis would be a nice value at 19, and it’d be awesome to get Brian Quick. We’ve needed a big physical WR since T.O. got shipped out. I would like us to use our first 4th round pick on a nickel corner or someone with return ability but other than that A+. I hope our actual draft goes half as well.
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I like Seattle's second round pick
Absolutely no chance he ends up a bust!
:-)
What do you mean?
That guy is gonna be a no name his entire career.
Ba dum chhh
by bigtrain21 on Jan 22, 2012 3:38 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I really like the Texans draft
I would only think we would grab Still if Wade thought he was a steal at that spot and if he thinks he can play NT in the system, if thats the case I think hes a beast. I thought it was the first good need/value draft I have seen on MTD for the Texans
Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 23, 2012 11:41 AM EST reply actions
I don't like it
I don’t think we’re going with a NT in the 1st because WR is our biggest need. While I don’t mind Randle, I do not like Broyles one bit. Too small, coming off an ACL injury, projected to only have low 4.5 speed (and that’s if he’s fully recovered). Truthfully, I wouldn’t mind going WR with both of the first two picks. I’d love to see Randle & Sanu both learning from Andre
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 4:56 AM EST up reply actions
assuming the pats beat the giants?
haha
Call me cautiously optimistic....because I know what the Niners do to people who have real optimism (see the last 8 years).
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