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2012 Senior Bowl: Some thoughts on the weigh-in portion

Senior Bowl weigh-ins are complete and they featured a lot of what we expected. Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams is huge (6-foot-7, 323 pounds) and Alabama wide receiver Marquis Maze is not (5-foot-7, 184 pounds). In front of scouts and media members, football players performed the meat market portion of the week getting measured in their underpants. But just what can be ascertained from this (sort of creepy) part of Senior Bowl week? (See full weigh-in results here)

With offensive tackles, arm length is nearly as important as height and weight. Arms shorter than 33 inches typically raise a red flag. Coming out of the weigh-ins, it's clear Iowa State's Kelechi Osemele doesn't have to worry about his arm length. He had 35 1/2-inch arms, the longest at the Senior Bowl. He was followed in arm length by Georgia's Cordy Glenn (35 1/8) and UAB's Matt McCants (35).

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Naturally the weigh-ins also brought up questions about tweener players like Alabama's Courtney Upshaw and South Carolina's Melvin Ingram. Both came in at under 6-foot-2 and more than 270 pounds with short arms. In the 2007 draft, the same thing happened to LaMarr Woodley and he dropped to the second round. But tape doesn't lie. Woodley proved it was unwise to pass on him and he's developed into one of the best 3-4 linebackers in the NFL. The same could happen to Upshaw and Ingram.

Of course, size can never hurt. Boise State George Iloka was the biggest safety at 6-foot-3 and 222 pounds with a wingspan of 81 5/8 inches. For wide receivers, hand size is considered an important attribute. Arizona's Juron Criner has the biggest hands of a wide receiver at 10 1/2 inches.

All eyes were on quarterbacks Kellen Moore and Russell Wilson. It should be no surprise that both came in at under 6-foot. Wilson measure 5'10 1/2, which made some draft analysts on Twitter immediately say it hurt his stock. That's not exactly true. Everyone, especially NFL scouts, knew Wilson wasn't 6-foot. During a play, how big of an impact is there in a difference between 5'11 and 5'10 1/2? It's minimal. The practice portion of the Senior Bowl is where Wilson and Moore have to shine.

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I saw something on twitter about McCants having a pink deformity on both hands

how much does that affect his play and his stock? I don’t think it’s too big of a deal, but it could scare some teams off.

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by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

*pinky deformity

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by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

What even is that?

If it’s what it sounds like I don’t see how it could be a big deal…

by JetKing55 on Jan 23, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not too sure lol

that’s one of the reasons I brought it up.

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by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

His hands are only like 8 3/4"

Could definitely affect his ability to “velcro” in the run game. The smaller your hands are the tougher it is to grab cloth/shoulder pads. Definitely something to worry about.

by D3DT on Jan 23, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

yeah that makes sense, although I still think he could be a good pick up in the mid-late rounds

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by Josh Wehrle on Jan 23, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I agree

With his arm length and supposed athleticism I have no doubt he can be a quality player. The hand thing is just to consider as a slight knock. He’s never going to be Jason Peters in the run game.

by D3DT on Jan 24, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

The 35 1/2 inch arm length means we're gonna draft Kelechi U-Smelly!

Kinda kidding but kinda not…Jerry Reese loves his measurables in the first few rounds…almost the first 5 rounds,come to think of it.

Then again he might not be there at pick # 32!

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by Shaunthegiant on Jan 23, 2012 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

I hope Russell Wilson drops like a rock

and the Rams pick him up on the cheap. That guy is gonna be a good QB in this league, mark my words.

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by dbcouver on Jan 23, 2012 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

In pencil or pen?

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by Dan Kadar on Jan 23, 2012 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Best QB in this class!

I think Russell will be the best QB in this class!

by Hoke Buck on Jan 24, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Well if we're calling out early success,

I’ll say I think Doug Brown will be the best RB of this class.

by JetKing55 on Jan 23, 2012 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

Dwight Jones and Maze had the same hand size

That spells trouble for Jones.

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by ct17 on Jan 23, 2012 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

Not necessarily. Torrey Smith has smaller hands than Jones does (his were 8 5/8" iirc compared to Jones’ 9") and Torrey’s done reasonably well.

Sure it might impede his ability to snatch the ball out of the air like Marvin McNutt and his huge hands, but I dont think “spells trouble” is the right phrase

by drd23 on Jan 24, 2012 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Isn't Nick Toon playing?

He’s not listed on the weigh in.

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by NMVike on Jan 24, 2012 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

One thing I really like about Iloka is that he fits so well as a hybrid OLB/S nickel-back.

This hybrid OLB/S seems to be an emerging trend in the NFL in nickel defenses. Better matchups against tight ends and larger receivers out of the slot. Another good fit for this hybrid is Nebraska’s LaVonte David.

by mikeyclaw on Jan 24, 2012 11:33 AM EST reply actions  


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