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So I have some trades which will undoubtedly tick some fans off. Here goes:

Colts trade #1 overall pick to Cleveland for #4, #22, 3rd Rd pick, and 2013 2nd pick.

Redskins trade #6 pick, 4th Rd pick, 2013 2nd pick to Minnesota for #3 pick.

Colts trade #4 pick to Dallas for #14 pick, 2nd Rd pick, 2013 1st and 4th Rd picks.

Now on to the draft...

Round 1
Pick Team Player Pos. College
1 Browns (Colts) Andrew Luck QB Stanford
2 Rams Matt Kalil OT USC
3 Redskins (Vikings) Robert Griffin III QB Baylor
4 Cowboys (Colts, Browns) Morris Claiborne CB LSU
5 Buccaneers Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska
6 Vikings (Redskins) Jonathan Martin OT Stanford
7 Jaguars Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State
8 Dolphins Riley Reiff OT Iowa
9 Panthers Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama
10 Bills Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama
11 Chiefs David DeCastro OG Stanford
12 Seahawks Melvin Ingram DE South Carolina
13 Cardinals Luke Kuechly LB Boston College
14 Colts (Cowboys) Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama
15 Eagles Michael Brockers DT LSU
16 Jets Whitney Mercilus OLB Illinois
17 Bengals (Raiders) Trent Richardson RB Alabama
18 Chargers Nick Perry OLB USC
19 Bears Mohammed Sanu WR Rutgers
20 Titans Chase Minnifield CB Virginia
21 Bengals Brandon Thompson DT Clemson
22 Colts (Browns, Falcons) Peter Konz OC Wisconsin
23 Steelers Devon Still DE Penn State
24 Lions Stephon Gilmore CB South Carolina
25 Broncos Kendall Wright WR Baylor
26 Patriots (Saints) Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama
27 Texans Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina
28 Packers Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech
29 Ravens Vontaze Burfict LB Arizona State
30 49ers Keleche Osemele OL Iowa State
31 Patriots Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame
32 Giants Lamar Miller RB Miami
Round 2
Pick Team Player Pos. College
1 Rams Andre Branch DE Clemson
2 Colts Mark Barron S Alabama
3 Vikings Zach Brown LB North Carolina
4 Buccaneers Mike Adams OT Ohio State
5 Browns Jerel Worthy DT Michigan State
6 Jaguars Quinton Coples DE North Carolina
7 Redskins Zebrie Sanders OT Florida State
8 Panthers Dwight Jones WR North Carolina
9 Bills Cordy Glenn OG Georgia
10 Dolphins Coby Fleener TE Stanford
11 Seahawks Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
12 Chiefs David Wilson RB Virginia Tech
13 Colts (Cowboys) Nick Foles QB Arizona
14 Eagles Travis Lewis LB Oklahoma
15 Jets Nick Toon WR Wisconsin
16 Patriots (Raiders) Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi State
17 Chargers Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
18 Bears Andrew Datko OT Florida State
19 Eagles (Cardinals) Ronnell Lewis LB Oklahoma
20 Titans Robert Lester S Alabama
21 Bengals Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin
22 Falcons Orson Charles TE Georgia
23 Steelers Casey Heyward CB Vanderbilt
24 Lions Ben Jones OC Georgia
25 Broncos Chris Polk RB Washington
26 Saints Lavonte David LB Nebraska
27 Texans Vinny Curry OLB Marshall
28 Packers Jared Crick DE Nebraska
29 Ravens Markelle Martin S Oklahoma State
30 49ers Brian Quick WR Appalachian State
31 Patriots Michael Brewster OC Ohio State
32 Giants Shaun Prater CB Iowa
Round 3
Pick Team Player Pos. College
1 Colts Dontari Poe DT Memphis
2 Rams Marvin McNutt WR Iowa
3 Vikings Stephen Hill WR Georgia Tech
4 Colts (Browns) Donnie Fletcher CB Boston College
5 Buccaneers Sean Spence LB Miami
6 Redskins Lucas Nix OG Pittsburgh
7 Jaguars Brandon Washington OL Miami
8 Dolphins Tommy Streeter WR Miami
9 Panthers Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
10 Bills Brandon Boykin CB Georgia
11 Chiefs Josh Chapman DT Alabama
12 Seahawks LaMichael James RB Oregon
13 Cardinals Nate Potter OT Boise State
14 Cowboys Bobbie Massie OT Ole Miss
15 Eagles Brock Osweiler QB Arizona State
16 Jets Kirk Cousins QB Michigan State
17 Raiders
18 Chargers AJ Jenkins WR Illinois
19 Bears Jake Bequette DE Arkansas
20 Titans Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M
21 Bengals Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma
22 Falcons Jamell Fleming CB Oklahoma
23 Steelers Matt McCants OT UAB
24 Lions Cam Johnson DE Virginia
25 Broncos Coryell Judie CB Texas A&M
26 Saints Frank Alexander DE Oklahoma
27 Texans Tramain Thomas S Arkansas
28 Packers Leonard Johnson CB Iowa State
29 Ravens Bernard Pierce RB Temple
30 49ers Bruce Irvin LB West Virginia
31 Patriots Jonathan Banks CB Mississippi State
32 Giants Chris Givens WR Wake Forest
Round 4
1 Rams Harrison Smith S Notre Dame
2 Colts Juron Criner WR Arizona
3 Vikings Chandler Jones DE Syracuse
4 Buccaneers Eric Page WR Toledo
5 Browns Jarius Wright WR Arkansas
6 Jaguars Winston Guy S Kentucky
7 Vikings (Redskins) Kendall Reyes DT Connecticut
8 Panthers Brandon Lindsey DE Pittsburgh
9 Bills Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State
10 Dolphins Billy Winn DE Boise State
11 Seahawks Jerry Franklin LB Arkansas
12 Chiefs BJ Cunningham WR Michigan State
13 Colts (Cowboys) Shea McClellin OLB Boise State
14 Eagles Reuben Randle WR LSU
15 Jets Isaiah Pead RB Cincinnati
16 Raiders Trumaine Johnson CB Montana
17 Chargers Josh LeRibeus OG SMU
18 Bears Ryan Steed CB Furman
19 Cardinals Senio Kelemete OT Washington
20 Titans Danny Trevathan LB Kentucky
21 Bengals George Iloka S Boise State
22 Falcons Brandon Taylor S LSU
23 Steelers Ryan Miller OG Colorado
24 Lions Bobby Wagner LB Utah State
25 Broncos Stephen Good OG Oklahoma
26 Saints Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati
27 Texans LaDarius Green TE Lousiana Lafayette
28 Packers William Vlachos OC Alabama
29 Ravens TY Hilton WR FIU
30 49ers Desmond Trufant CB Washington
31 Patriots Mike Martin DT Michigan
32 Giants Michael Egnew TE Missouri

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Love the Jags, but I highly doubt Coples will be around in the 2nd.

Can't stand the truth?

by Aristotle45 on Jan 26, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions  

If he was there at #28

The Packers would cry tears of joy, and proceed by selecting Quiton Coples, Defensive Lineman out of the University of North Carolina.

Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.

by BlackPack-fan on Jan 26, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Prob not

If he tried he’d be like Mario Williams. He’d still be a good rusher from standing up, but he’d be awful in coverage, and offenses would attack that. He’s a great 3-4 End prospect though.

Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.

by BlackPack-fan on Jan 28, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that too

but I thought Bowers was all but guaranteed top 15 pick last year

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He dropped because of his knee I think.

There was alot of speculation about his knee not checking out right at the combine, and I think that led to his drop. I do think Coples could drop a bit because of his less than stellar senior season, and questions about work ethic/motor and stuff. But not out of the 1st round.

Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.

by BlackPack-fan on Jan 28, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Buffalo Bills

Solid picks, though they won’t draft an interior lineman this year, unless its a late round pick for added depth.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Jan 26, 2012 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

I’m ok with Upshaw, honestly do not like any other pick to Bills. I’ll puke if we draft Weeden

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by atlantalove on Jan 26, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

couldn't agree more

Plus this draft is missing our second fourth rounder from the lee Evans trade.

Think we’ll be looking at a qb from fifth round onwards. Someone to challenge thigpen and try to develop behind fitz.

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by Let's Go Buffalo (UK) on Jan 26, 2012 6:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i dont mind Weeden

but not in the 4th! i would take him in the 6th prob the 5th. I like Lindley in the 5th for a long shot QB .

Also ok with upshaw, but not sold on him. Would REALLY REALLY like to trade down with someone like Cinn.(so they can get Richardson) and take someone like Whitney Mercilus.

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by ChewyFL on Jan 26, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Courtney Upshaw
Cordy Glenn
Brandon Boykin
Brandon Weeden
T.Y. Hilton

Can’t really contest Upshaw, at 10 right now the Bills need a rusher and he’s one of the top ones in the draft.
Glenn doesn’t fit our positional needs, but he’s a first round talent with excellent size and I don’t think Buffalo would pass him up if he fell to them in the second.
Boykin I don’t know much about, but we could definitely use another CB.
I think Buffalo is one of the teams Weeden could actually succeed on, because we run a short passing spread with a lot of quick reads. Weeden is a more talented, less experienced version of the Fitzpatrick we have playing for us now, and for a 4th round pick I’d much rather have him as a backup QB than Tyler Thigpen.
And T.Y. Hilton is a good playmaking WR when Buffalo definitely needs another one of those.

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by DanRoc on Jan 26, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i think 4th is to high for Weeden

and Glenn would have to be amazing because they said they were set at interior line.

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by ChewyFL on Jan 26, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Theres some talk

that apparently Glenn could play tackle in the pros

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by mob16151 on Jan 26, 2012 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Jags

first off, not very hard to tell you are a Colts fan. keep on accumulating picks is standard strategy for one’s team. Not likely

On to the picks:
1)Call Me crazy, but I am not all that big of going WR at 7 even if Blackmon is there. The dropoff between him and a second round guy is not as big as say passing on a Reiff (or Coples who is just tearing apart the Senior Bowl)
2)IF Coples was guaranteed to be there in the second then the Blackmon pick is more than fine, but that is not happening so let us assume Reiff or Coples went in the first. Then you have to look BAP and I see that being between Dwight Jones, Cordy Glenn(who won’t fall to the second either), Vinny Curry, and maybe Brian Quick or Michael Brewster
3) Not a bad pick but I am personally under the opinion that an OL will be taken by then so maybe a Tommy Streeter or a guy like Josh Norman(CB) could be taken then.
4)SOlid pick but Iloka from Boise St. is quite impressive and could be the better option if a S was taken.

Overall not a bad Jags draft. I would probably put it as an A but only because of the unrealistic nature of snagging Blackmon and Coples

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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 26, 2012 2:37 PM EST reply actions  

lol

do you ever like anyones mock? haha

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by theMAGICman on Jan 26, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I do not dislike the mock

I just like to point out better options, and if the pick sucks let the mocker know that. I gave the mock an A although it is highly unrealistic. I actually for the first time saw a mock from walterfootball that was pretty solid for the Jags actually.

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by Jagsrok9008 on Jan 26, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Love Ravens' draft

Bernard Price to Baltimore!!!

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

Only thing I might change is Brewster to the Ravens in the 2nd round. OC is a HUGE need.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually really like Martins potential as a replacement for Ed. I think we can get at least 2 years out of Gurode and draft a C later or next year. I agree though that this is solid.

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by AV23 on Jan 26, 2012 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea. I like both picks.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Pierce*

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

So...

Andrew Luck… for 2 firsts, a second and a third…
The #4 pick… for 2 firsts, a second and a fourth.

First, the difference between those two is more than a one round upgrade in the middle of the draft.

Second… as a Colts fan, HELL NO on all counts.

by invisibulman on Jan 26, 2012 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

3 firsts will have to be used to get that #1 spot.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably true

It’s also not going to be traded.

by invisibulman on Jan 27, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Colts

I’m not a fan of trading the 1st pick, but if we did how you have, if would be a terrible to spend the picks on LBs when the rest of the defense needs a lot more help. Mostly with our secondary.

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by 7_Painter's_First_Fan on Jan 26, 2012 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

secondary

I have Barron and Fletcher drafted. Also, they could grab someone like Menzie later in the draft.

by BlueVol03 on Jan 26, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Colts

No…just…no. It’s clear you want Peyton around, but I think it’s time to accept that Manning is probably done in Indianapolis. And you simply don’t pass on a QB who fits what your team wants the way Luck does.

by TrueBlue87 on Jan 26, 2012 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

Pagano took that job because the most likely guaranteed him Luck.

Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.

Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang

by Mr MaLoR on Jan 26, 2012 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Peyton

Even if I do want him around, I like Foles. Something’s going to have get done if the Colts move to a 3-4 and trading that pick would bring the most back.

by BlueVol03 on Jan 26, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Foles HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

There's no way Khloe's a Kardashian. No frickin' way.

by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 26, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh, Foles might be OK, but Luck is too good to pass up.

Plus, there is no guarantee the Colts will move to a 3-4. I think they stay in the 4-3 because that’s what they have the personnel for. And coming from Baltimore is no guarantee for a 3-4. Look at Marvin Lewis in Cincy.

by TrueBlue87 on Jan 26, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm fine with putting up a mock that explores the angle of trading the #1 pick

but I think a major defensive scheme change isn’t very compatible. If you are trading the pick you are committing to a short window with Peyton, I don’t think you should be overhauling the front 7 in that situation. Hightower and Poe are very 3-4ish selections, while if they are going to trade the pick and run with Peyton the transition defensively should be gradual.

Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.

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by shake n bake on Jan 27, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Overall

I agree. Even if the players are very 3-4ish selections, they can be used in multiple looks until the transition is complete. You can’t change schemes in only one offseason and be completely successful. However, you can start the transition by getting players that can help now and star later.

Honestly, I know we’re not trading the pick. I just wanted to throw a mock up there that hasn’t been done before. With Pagano getting hired I thought it would be fun to imagine drafting 3-4 players.

I do hope we end up with Barron though. We need help in that secondary regardless of the defensive scheme.

by BlueVol03 on Jan 27, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Chiefs draft is good

But it’d be hard to pass on Massie in the third. We need an upgrade at RT very bad.

by Jonathan Hake on Jan 26, 2012 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

I would try this according to the draft board.

1. David DeCastro OG Stanford
2. Dwayne Allen TE Clemson
3. Josh Chapman DT Alabama
4. Levy Adcock OT Oklahoma State
That to me would be a solid start to the draft.

What a year! At least we have the Royals... Oh Wait!

by KSU-Chief on Jan 26, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Decent mock for the Giants. This will sound crazy as all hell, but my preferred mock given this board would be

1) Lamar Miller, RB
2) Marvin McNutt, WR
3) Ladarius Green, TE
4) Keenan Robinson, OLB

Adding those three weapons would just make it unfair.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 26, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

We can get rid of Brandon Jacobs.

Miller and Bradshaw are both potent runners…Bradshaw is shifty, Miller has great burst. Both are good pass catchers out of the backfield.

We might not re-sign Mario Manningham, so we’d like a good 3rd WR…McNutt at the bottom of the 2nd is a steal. He’s destroying people at the Senior Bowl.

All the great offenses have ridiculous TEs…Graham, Gronk, Finley. Green is probably the closest to that as you can get.

Keenan Robinson is a strong prospect that is probably a good fit for 4-3 SAM. We can move Kiwanuka back to DE if we trade Osi, and plug in Robinson at LB.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 26, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Egnew might actually be worth a draft pick

from what I’ve been hearing is he actually likes blocking. As a receiver his ability is unquestioned but as a blocker he’s like the rest of the Missouri Tigers offense, a friggin panzy. Maybe its just the system with him and he’s actually good.

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 26, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be. I didn't like what I saw out of his "blocking" but eh...

I’d still prefer Green, cause while he’s raw….he’s oozing upside. About as Jimmy Graham-esque as you can get. Getting him the 3rd isn’t terrible value either.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 26, 2012 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Green in the Senior Bowl

He’s not looking like much of an athlete. Tall, wide frame, almost like Megatron. But really raw running routes and not much speed.

I love McNutt. But I am fine with the first three picks. In the 4th, if Robinson is available I’d rather have him. Hard to find good SAMs in the draft, especially now with so many college safeties moving to LB.

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by ct17 on Jan 26, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not bad for the Bengals...

Hard to whine about Richardson and Zeitler.

I think that the first four needs addressed with be (in some order) RB, OG, S and CB. DT, LB, WR and possibly TE won’t be addressed until later…. in my humble opinion.

by Boomer Lion on Jan 26, 2012 3:15 PM EST reply actions  

how is TE a need for this team

we barely use gresham as it is

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by Doc Scratch on Jan 26, 2012 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

TE is a need in that we only have 2 under contract.

But I’m with you on the “no seconds until you eat all of your firsts” idea… you have Gresham and Cochart. No more TEs until you learn WTF to do w/ Gresham.

Personally, I’d like to see them use Gresham as a frikkin’ target rather than as the most athletic blocker ever.

by Boomer Lion on Feb 1, 2012 7:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know that the 'Skins need to move up if the Colts trade with Cleveland like in your scenario

although if it goes down like this, it wouldn’t be terrible, I guess.

Also, the ‘Skins have the Raiders’ 4th round pick this year from the Jason Campbell trade. You’d probably mock the same player to us that you have for the Raiders anyway.

by CarverM on Jan 26, 2012 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

trade

Sorry about the missed trade. You like Trumaine at that spot?

They could still make the trade if they think Indy might take RG3.

by BlueVol03 on Jan 26, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

But by that point they'll have committed big bucks to Manning

I’ve seen Trumaine mocked to us in several places. I don’t know enough about him to have an opinion one way or another, I just know that it’s a common mock.

by CarverM on Jan 26, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Seahawks

I’d be pretty happy with this and think it’s as likely as any other mock I’ve seen.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 26, 2012 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

It is indeed an interesting and viable assortment of picks.

I don’t know who the LB from Arkansas is, though. Perhaps we can get the guys at Field Gulls to take a look at him.

Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"

by Bobby Cink on Jan 27, 2012 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

It addresses depth at both RB and LB. I would be a fan of slipping Doug Martin in for LaMichael James though. Bruise and Bruise with Marshawn Lynch w/Doug Martin, use Leon Washington as change of pace, seems GOLDEN

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by MasinMud on Jan 27, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right about your Broncos picks...

unpopular, at least your first rounder. Plus, isn’t your order wrong, don’t the Steelers pick 24?

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by Since1993 on Jan 26, 2012 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

Yes we pick 24

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Jan 26, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

WR in the 1st and RB in the 2nd doesn't make much sense to me.

DT has the potential to be a #1, Decker is a #2 or #3 and both are just second year players. We need to get more depth and youth at both DL and CB real soon. Nate Irving at MLB is an unknown, whereas Joe Mays is too limited at pass protection to be a long term option.

Don’t mind getting a WR and/or RB, but definitely not before the 4th round. If we stick with the option there might be good value for offensive players that have the necessary specialized skill set but will drop due to little demand for option players in the NFL.

I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.

by Arctic Bronco on Jan 28, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Ticked of Eagle Fan

So… The Redskins get a franchise QB, Cowboys get the best Defensive player in this draft and we get… Brockers??? No way we pass on:Devon Still, Michael Floyd, Alshon Jefferey, Kendall Wright and Vontaze Burfict specially since we could have EASILY traded back to grab one or possibly two of those players I named. Philly Would riot. Not to mention all the talent we passed on in the other rounds: Coples (if hes there in the 2nd he would be an Eagle), TE Allen and many more… Like the way your board fell but Eagles would play it MUCH differently.

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by EagleEyes on Jan 26, 2012 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

as a Giants fan

I think it would be great if you passed on Brockers.

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 26, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

Tajh Boyd and Dre' Ellington are the future.
Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.

by BlackPack-fan on Jan 26, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd take Brockers over Still any day of the week

Let them grab Still in the 1st, I’ll be cheering.

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by ct17 on Jan 26, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

different type of players

Still is the moe powerful Run defender that can collapse the pocket against the pass and Brockers is more of a pass rusher from DT spot. We need run stuffing DT’s in the Wide 9 scheme or at the very least a DT that can hold his ground against the “Clogging” up the running lanes.

ok, the giants suck.
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by EagleEyes on Jan 26, 2012 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

alot of mistakes
at the very least a DT that can hold his ground against the run, better known as "Clogging" up the running lanes.

Cole and Babin do the pass rushing from the outside and we need two big uglies in the middle stopping the “runs”

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

by EagleEyes on Jan 26, 2012 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So

He’s fantastic against the run and the pass but yet he isnt a concensus top 10 (or 15) pick?? Doesn’t happen all that often, a 6’6 300 pound DT that can rush the passer and stop the run but isn’t a lock for top 10 pick. He only started one year at LSU so he isn’t a “can’t miss” prospect by any means, you have to judge him on how well/high you think he can progress at the next level.

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

by EagleEyes on Jan 27, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

its early

and Brockers wasn’t really figured into the “process”, as if the internet mock stuff is really a process and has anything to do with real NFL team’s draft boards.

He’s a freak and should skyrocket up the boards.

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 27, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

as if the internet mock stuff is really a process and has anything to do with real NFL team’s draft boards

Who said anything about internet mocks? Do we need an internet mock to see how high Luck, RG3, Claiborne, or Blackmon will go or do we know based on their play what part of the first round they will be picked? Not saying this guy can’t/Won’t turn into a beast but after picking B.Graham and D.Watkins the last two years in the 1st round we need a plug in player that will bring immediate upgrade. I feel Still is a “Safer” pick if you will.

ok, the giants suck.
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by EagleEyes on Jan 27, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Still is good, no doubt

But have you seen that LSU D-Line? There was talent all over it, and Brockers was always making plays. To stand out on the D-Line is saying something. Brockers can do it all, he’s a good run stuffer. And not only was he not figured into the internet mock drafts, but I don’t know how many people really thought he was going to enter the draft at all. Our boards are vastly different from those of pro scouts, and with all the attributes Brockers has, I think he’s going to be very high on a lot of GM and coaches boards.

by #56 4life on Jan 28, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

How much of Brockers success

Can be given to the players around him (can’t key in on everyone)? While Still played with….
Still was constantly double and sometimes tripled teamed and showed out most of the year.

ok, the giants suck.
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by EagleEyes on Jan 30, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

weren't Graham and Watkins the "safe" picks

and the reason why you passed on JPP cuz he was a “risk”? Risk many times means there’s higher upside, but worse downside, but if you have the coaching you don’t even worry about the downside.

I dunno where Brockers is that sort of risk tho. He was the best lineman on one of the best lines in college. But by all means.

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by Rorschach44 on Jan 28, 2012 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

umm... only if you consider

A 27 year old college LT that is going to switch too OG in the NFL after only playing Football for 4 years a “safe” pick…
Graham was a safe pick, and nobody can say if it was a good or bad pick because if JPP had the same injury Graham had then he would be in the same position.
For our team ill take Still over Brockers in a slight edge because Still seems stronger and better suited to handle double teams.

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

by EagleEyes on Jan 30, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Vikings

I’m okay with this trade. But if you could have made it a 2nd this year and a 3rd next year, that would have been better.

1st—I like the Martin Pick.
2nd—I love the Brown pick.
2nd—Casey Hayward
3rd—Too bad McNutt didn’t fall to the Vikes. I’m not sold on Hill this early. If I had to go WR I probably would take Fuller here instead.
4th—Too bad we missed out on Harrison Smith. I would take George Iloka or Winston Guy Jr. here. I like the Reyes pick too.

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by NMVike on Jan 26, 2012 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed. The trade is ridiculous

That 2nd round pick next year is worth less this year.

The Redskins will have to pony up if they want that QBOTF.

If Spielman accepted this trade he should be fired on the spot.

by MarkSP18 on Jan 27, 2012 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Cowboys would be stupid to give up 4 picks for 1 player

We’re far from being “one player away”. I would especially hate giving up a future first rounder because I don’t think we should ever do that. So the trade would be stupid and pretty much screw us… But with Jerry running the show I can’t say it isn’t possible… so imma go cry now.

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Jan 26, 2012 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

that trade would make me throw up

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by demarcus94 on Jan 26, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Even with Jerry in charge there is no way we make that trade.

I also just realized this mock has Dennard at #5. Lol.

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by Creasy729 on Jan 27, 2012 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Giants

Miller isn’t a bad pick, but there are a few guys I’d prefer right there. First off, I dislike Coples as an early-mid first rounder, but at pick 32, if the Giants add him to their D-Line and light a fire under his ass, the results would be phenomenal. Also I’d love if the Giants went Dwayne Allen or Dwight Jones in the first. Speaking of Allen, he won’t be drafted behind Fleener, Allen is the best TE in the draft and will go in the 1st. I like the Chris Givens pick though, I live in the area and Givens is an impressive player, and he’d be a good weapon in our system.

by #56 4life on Jan 26, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

Great Redskins draft

& since we have the Raiders 4th, we will be hanging onto their pick Trumaine Johnson.

by ENsDad27 on Jan 26, 2012 5:08 PM EST reply actions  

The Colts are waving bye bye to Payton. It's why they fired their ex-GM He knows Luck is a bust and didn't want his name associated with drafting him

Ownership didn’t like that so they fired him. Enjoy having Andrew Leaf, the biggest bust in the history of the NFL.

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by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 26, 2012 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

lulwut?

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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 26, 2012 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

IDK either Bro

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by Since1993 on Jan 27, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i like this mock draft

Justin blackmon is worthy of the pick and would immediately make an impact. If Coples slid to our 2nd round pick, that would mean something wrong about him has been discovered.

However, I’d take him. He can contribute. As for every other pick, no glaring bad picks. If this happened, I would be happy

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I like all the Bengals picks except Brandon Thompson.

I’d say take the best CB available there.

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by sexsalad on Jan 26, 2012 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

That.

I don’t think DT, especially in the first round, is that significant of a need. Like it or not, Peko’s here to stay, Atkins is the best DT in the conference, and our depth behind them isn’t terrible as Rucker and Fanene can kick inside and Pat Sims is good depth.

We need a good young corner here for insurance, depth, and just general need at this point.

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Only problem is, anyone taken behind our pick is kind of a need and there were two CBs in the top five.

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by Doc Scratch on Jan 26, 2012 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Panthers

I like it, i especially like how we still have a 3rd round pivk

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by pcroadrage on Jan 26, 2012 6:21 PM EST reply actions  

I'll gloss over the trade up to #1

As I’m sure others have and will tackle that. Actually, my biggest problem with the Browns draft is taking a DT in the 2nd round. The Browns are squarely set at DT. Rubin has been fantastic and Phil Taylor, their first round pick last year, had a very good rookie season. An end I would understand, but not a tackle.

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by nickjs21 on Jan 26, 2012 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Titans

I highly doubt we draft Chase in the first round. Especially with Ashlon Jefferey and Malcom Flyodd and even Janoris Jenkins still left on the board

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by bond003 on Jan 26, 2012 7:51 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Agreed its not a great titans draft

With the players available we probably would go Barron, but the big problem is you dont address our biggest need which is Guard and Centre

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by alijeal on Jan 26, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but

I don’t think anyone left available at C or G is worth the 20 pick. But if Barron is up we could consider him

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by bond003 on Jan 28, 2012 10:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Eagles

Horrible mock for the birds .. and we have 2 4th rounders btw

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by I3irdMan3901 on Jan 26, 2012 9:04 PM EST reply actions  

We own the Bucs 4th round pick. And yeah, I would not be happy with this draft at all.

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by KeepSwinging on Jan 29, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

The Bills

have two fourth rounders as well.

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by mob16151 on Jan 26, 2012 9:17 PM EST reply actions  

Eagles

Not feeling the 2 Oklahoma LBs in the 2nd… love Brockers and Osweiler though

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by Djax10 on Jan 26, 2012 11:49 PM EST reply actions  

Rams

Will not select a DE in this draft, let alone take one with the 33rd pick in the draft.

by MMouse on Jan 27, 2012 5:39 AM EST reply actions  

I think the only decent pick for the Rams is Kalil in this mock, I mean we did fire Spags and Devaney so I am hoping the draft doesn’t turn out like this.

by bobhugehands on Jan 28, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Saints

I like it. OLB, DE and DT. Filled our biggest holes.

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by Alex Swift on Jan 27, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Why do the Steelers need 3 young first round DEs on their team?

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by John Stephens on Jan 27, 2012 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

I was wondering the same thing!

I dont think we go corner in the 2nd either.

by OIF3GUNNER on Jan 30, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Panthers

As a courtesy FYI, we previously traded our 3rd round pick to the Bears for Greg Olsen. I would be shocked if they took a WR in the second round. I also the see the names of a few DBs I don’t think have declared for the draft yet.

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by carolinapillpusher on Jan 27, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

As much as the Cardinals need help at OT

I can’t see them using both the 3rd and 4th round picks on the position.

by hadrarius on Jan 27, 2012 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure about the Jets draft.

I’m not high on Mercilus, but with Ingram and Upshaw gone, I’ll take it. The Toon pick is awesome, but I don’t like drafting a QB and I don’t like Pead.

by JetKing55 on Jan 28, 2012 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

Jags

is the best I’ve seen, I would absolutely prefer Jeffery over Blackmon but I could live with that pick. If Coples were to fall then good pick. I like Washington. The 4th is ok but I would go with Cunningham or Randle there.

by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Jan 28, 2012 5:55 PM EST reply actions  

The Colts aren't going to trade that pick.

At least not for what is listed in this mock.

I don’t see the Titans going CB in the first either.

by FYNBYAC on Jan 28, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

Texans

1st – I’m not sure about Alshon Jeffery. I know we need a WR, but I just hope the rumors about his conditioning & work ethic aren’t true
2nd – No way they look at an OLB this early even if Mario is gone. They look either a NT or another tall WR
3rd – Again, safety isn’t that high of a priority. They’ll either go O-Line or ILB here, or NT if they take another WR in the 2nd
4th – Okay, enough with the running joke. If they needed another TE, they’ll move James Casey back to TE & keep Vickers around at FB. Here they’ll look at OL, ILB, or a 2nd WR, whichever hasn’t been addressed to this point

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by The Night Owl on Jan 28, 2012 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

Browns would need to give much much more

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