Post-Senior Bowl 2012 NFL mock draft
by Dan Kadar on Jan 31, 2012 6:06 PM EST
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PrintNow that the Senior Bowl is over and only the Super Bowl remains, some player values and team needs are beginning to be set. So now seemed like a good, overdue time to release my first mock draft since November. Some of the picks remain the same, namely the top four. But others have changed dramatically.
Some of the picks I experimented with to gauge reaction. That wasn't done to generate buzz and I don't think any of the picks were reaches. But always seeing a defensive tackle to the Carolina Panthers, for instance, seemed boring. As is the case with all the mocks I do outside of April, this is a projection of what I think should happen and not necessarily what will happen. After all, we have free agency which will unquestionably change how a team drafts.
Also, don't fret teams flipping a coin for their pick or Giants fans. In situations where the pick isn't set, I went in alphabetical order. Check out the mock draft after the jump and let me know what you think.
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1. Indianapolis Colts - Stampede Blue |
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Andrew Luck | Quarterback | Stanford: It looks certain now that Peyton Manning is done with the Colts. Even if he were coming back, Luck would have been the pick. Now it will be a matter of figuring out how quickly Luck can be good in the NFL. |
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2. St. Louis Rams - Turf Show Times |
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Matt Kalil | Offensive tackle | Southern California: The Rams will be taking several phone calls to trade out of this pick. While adding picks would be nice for the Rams, having a franchise left tackle is the most important piece this team can add. If the Rams trade down to a team wanting Robert Griffin III, they won't be able to get a player as good as Kalil. That's what the Rams will be choosing between. If they want Sam Bradford to develop, they need Kalil more than anything else. He would start at left tackle with Rodger Saffold shifting to the right side. |
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Morris Claiborne | Cornerback | LSU: The Vikings are currently 30th in the league in pass defense and starting Benny Sapp and Cedric Griffin on the outside. Claiborne isn't as good as previous top 10 cornerbacks Patrick Peterson or Joe Haden but he'd start as a rookie and upgrade a poor unit. With Christian Ponder in place, this should be another pick that is shopped around to a team looking to draft a quarterback. |
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4. Cleveland Browns - Dawgs By Nature |
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Robert Griffin III | Quarterback | Baylor: Colt McCoy has struggled greatly at quarterback, but Brown president Mike Holmgren has said it takes three years to master the West Coast offense. But with Griffin available, the Browns would likely grab him. It's hard to see the Browns trading up for him, however. | |
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5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Bucs Nation |
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Trent Richardson | Running back | Alabama: Tampa's pick is difficult because they've hired a new head coach in Greg Schiano. How he changes their philosophy on offense and defense will determine how they draft. We know Schiano wants to be physical on offense. We don't know if he's committed to LeGarette Blount at running back. Blount had a down year and the team struggled running the ball overall. By Adding Richardson, who is used to a duo role, the Buccaneers could immediately transform their offense and rely less on the arm of Josh Freeman. Cornerback is a strong possibility as well. | |
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6. Washington Redskins - Hogs Haven |
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Riley Reiff | Offensive tackle | Iowa: Despite what some may say, this is far too early to draft Ryan Tannehill if Luck and Griffin are both gone. The Redskins could be players in a trade up for Griffin or a trade down to get Tannehill. But if they don't trade out, picking Reiff makes sense. He could pair with Trent Williams and provide the Redskins with a great offensive line for whoever ends up being the quarterback. | |
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Quinton Coples | Defensive end | North Carolina: The Jaguars have a serious need at wide receiver and cornerback, as well as defensive end. But with the top cornerbacks gone and the depth at wide receiver this year, Coples should be the choice. He had a very good Senior Bowl week and his stock is back where we expected all year. A pass rusher like Coples won't be around in later rounds, but a No. 1 wide receiver may be had in round two this year. |
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8. Carolina Panthers - Cat Scratch Reader |
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Dre Kirkpatrick | Cornerback | Alabama: The popular move in mock drafts has been giving the Panthers a defensive tackle. Given their poor run defense, it makes sense. But the Panthers have desperately needed a cornerback opposite Chris Gamble for some time. Kirkpatrick is a big corner who can tackle and handle big receivers like those in New Orleans and Atlanta. | |
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9. Miami Dolphins - The Phinsider |
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Jonathan Martin | Offensive tackle | Stanford: With both Marc Colombo and Vernon Carey as free agents, the Dolphins could be reshaping the entire right side of their offensive line this offseason. Martin could easily slide into the right tackle spot and start as a rookie. | |
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10. Buffalo Bills - Buffalo Rumblings |
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Courtney Upshaw | Defensive end/outside linebacker | Alabama: Buffalo is switching back to the 4-3 and will need to fill the ever-important right defensive end position. Upshaw has a nice combination of quickness and power to rush the passer. At Alabama, Upshaw largely played linebacker, but he has some reps with his hand in the ground. For the Bills, he would allow the team to run some 3-4 looks. | |
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11. Kansas City Chiefs - Arrowhead Pride |
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David DeCastro | Guard | Stanford: This is not too early for a guard when there is one as good as DeCastro. The Chiefs have needs in a couple spots on their offensive line, and DeCastro is the best lineman available. Don't be shocked if he got looks at right tackle. DeCastro is that good. Ohio State offensive tackle Mike Adams may also get some consideration. | |
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12. Seattle Seahawks - Field Gulls |
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Justin Blackmon | Wide receiver | Oklahoma State: How does a player like Justin Blackmon fall quite this far in the draft? To a degree it's scheme fit and it's also the depth at the position. Blackmon is a good player, but not an elite A.J. Green or Julio Jones kind of receiver. The Seahawks have depth at wide receiver and made a big-money free agent signing last year in Sidney Rice. But Blackmon would step in and be the best receiver on their team. | |
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13. Arizona Cardinals - Revenge Of The Birds |
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Mike Adams | Offensive tackle | Ohio State: Adams had a good Senior Bowl week which will help rebuild his draft stock after missing some of his senior season due to suspension at Ohio State. Adams is a natural left tackle, which would push Levi Brown to the right side, which is where he should have been all along. If the Cardinals want to get the most out of Kevin Kolb, a sound offensive is a must. | |
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Janoris Jenkins | Cornerback | North Alabama: If there is one sure thing in this year's draft, it's that the Cowboys will come out of it with at least one starting defensive back. This is a little early for Jenkins and there is concern some about his character after he left Florida following drug issues. But he's a starting-caliber cornerback who is excellent at making plays on the ball. |
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15. Philadelphia Eagles - Bleeding Green Nation |
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Luke Kuechly | Middle linebacker | Boston College: What Philadelphia does in the first round will be determined in part by what happens with Desean Jackson in free agency. If he's gone, wide receiver is the team's top need. If he returns, the focus can be on improving the defense. Kuechly could contribute immediately and improve the players around him. |
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16. New York Jets - Gang Green Nation |
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Melvin Ingram | Defensive end/outside linebacker| South Carolina: Rex Ryan loves pass rushers and his best pass rusher, Calvin Pace, is 31 and only had 4.5 sacks this season. Aaron Maybin is a nice story, but he's a restricted free agent and his consistency is a complete unknown. Ingram is the kind of pass rusher who could play outside at linebacker, line up at end or be used as a tackle in nickel sets. |
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17. Cincinnati Bengals (via Oakland Raiders) - Cincy Jungle |
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Stephon Gilmore | Cornerback | South Carolina: The Bengals struggled to find a good replacement for Jonathan Joseph this season and Gilmore is a good replacement. He's a big cornerback with good quickness and tackling ability. | |
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18. San Diego Chargers - Bolts From The Blue |
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Dont'a Hightower | Middle linebacker | Alabama: At 36, the future is unknown for Takeo Spikes. With the best pass rushers and offensive linemen off the board, Hightower would be a nice pickup for the Chargers. He's a stout run defender in the middle but also has the versatility to rush the passer from the outside. |
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19. Chicago Bears - Windy City Gridiron |
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Michael Floyd | Wide receiver | Notre Dame: There are some teams whose needs are so evident they're impossible to ignore. For the Bears, it's been wide receiver for about three years. Floyd really blossomed as a senior, despite having similar production of past seasons. He's a much leaner and quicker wide receiver while still retaining his strength. Floyd may not even last this long in the draft, but he's here now and would be a steal for the Bears. |
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20. Tennessee Titans - Music City Miracles |
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Whitney Mercilus | Defensive end| Illinois: Only one team had fewer sacks this season than the Titans. Mercilus would give them the player who can get after the passer and stay at home against the run. Also look for the Titans to consider a cornerback, especially if Cortland Finnegan doesn't return. |
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21. Cincinnati Bengals - Cincy Jungle |
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Lamar Miller | Running back | Miami: Cedric Benson's production has dropped and he's averaged less than four yards per carry the last two seasons. He's also 28. His backup Bernard Scott has never shown the ability to take over the top spot. Miller, who is entering the draft following his redshirt sophomore year, could start for the Bengals for years. He's quick and has great cut and burst ability. | |
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22. Cleveland Browns (via Atlanta Falcons) - Dawgs By Nature |
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Kendall Wright | Wide receiver | Baylor: The idea of having Griffin and Wright paired in the NFL is an exciting one. Wright would give the team a good vertical threat and push Mohamed Massaquoi to the No. 3 spot on the depth chart, where he is much better suited. The Browns have seen first hand what a speed receiver like Mike Wallace of the Steelers and Torrey Smith of the Ravens can do. It's time they have a player like that of their own. | |
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Cordy Glenn | Offensive tackle/guard | Georgia: Cordy Glenn has been a popular pick for the Lions because of his versatility. He'd be able to play any guard or tackle spot and give them Lions some power up front. Wisconsin center Peter Konz is a possibility, but the Lions may give team captain Dominic Railola another season. Cornerback will be a strong possibility if someone drops. |
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Kelechi Osemele | Offensive tackle/guard | Iowa State: As much as the Steelers may need a replacement nose tackle for Casey Hampton, the team can no longer overlook their need on the offensive line. Osemele is a mammoth, physical blocker who has some versatility. He'd infuse the team's offensive line with power and size. |
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Devon Still | Defensive tackle | Penn State: This offseason Denver will want to add talent around Tim Tebow, but needs along the defensive line are just as dire. Still is a better all-around tackle than Michael Brockers and should be able to contribute sooner in the NFL. | |
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26. Houston Texans - Battle Red Blog |
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Dontari Poe | Defensive tackle | Memphis: The Wade Phillips defense has never really been built around nose tackle, but imagine what a guru like him could do with a player like Poe. Arguably the best nose eligible for the draft, Poe is a hulking figure up front who can occupy blockers and collapse the line. He'd take some pressure of ends J.J. Watt and Antonio Smith, which will allow Houston's linebackers to make even more plays. The biggest beneficiaries of playing with someone like Poe will be Houston's inside linebackers. |
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27. New England Patriots (via New Orleans Saints) - Pats Pulpit |
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Michael Brockers | Defensive tackle | LSU: New England has openings on all levels of their defense. Because of that, they'll easily be able to draft the best player available. In this scenario, it's far and away Brockers who most expect to go earlier in the draft. In 3-4 sets he's athletic enough for end and should hold up well as a tackle in a 4-3. |
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Fletcher Cox | Defensive tackle/end | Mississippi State: The Packers need to get more of a pass rush next season and that can start up front with Cox. He's strong enough to set the edge but has enough fluidity and athleticism to rush the passer. If not Cox or another defensive end, the Packers could target an outside linebacker or tight end if Jermichael Finley isn't brought back. |
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29. Baltimore Ravens - Baltimore Beatdown |
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Peter Konz | Center | Wisconsin: What Baltimore really needs is a true franchise left tackle, which they haven't really had since Jonathan Ogden retired. Unfortunately drafting in the back end of the first round greatly hurts the team's chances to do that. At center, Matt Birk is considering retirement and Andre Gurode is a free agent. Konz is a plug and play draft pick who would fit nicely in their run blocking scheme. Linebacker Vontaze Burfict doesn't make sense from a on-field football intelligence standpoint. | |
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30. San Francisco 49ers - Niners Nation |
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Alshon Jeffery | Wide receiver | South Carolina: Jeffery has slipped this far because of a lack of production this season and some worries about his separation skills. At this point, though, he's a soid steal. Under Jim Harbaugh, he'd be forced to play hard, which there have been questions about with Jeffery in the past. He's a top 10 talent, though, and could become a factor in the team's passing offense as a rookie. |
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31. New York Giants - Big Blue View |
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Dwight Jones | Wide receiver | North Carolina: There are a few methods the Giants follow in the draft. They don't reach for players, they stay away from linebackers in the first round and put value on size and speed. With Mario Manningham facing free agency, the Giants could effortlessly replace him with Jones and provide insurance if Victor Cruz is a one-year wonder. Jones certainly fills the physical profile the Giants target and will demand targets early. (Also, check out this great FanPost on the Giants' drafting tendencies) |
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32. New England Patriots - Pats Pulpit |
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Chase Minnifield | Cornerback | Virginia: Year after year the Patriots seem to target defensive backs only to see them disappoint. While Minnifield's upside may not be as high as other cornerbacks, his bust factor is extremely low. He has the size to match up well with the bigger AFC East wide receivers, like Stevie Johnson of the Bills and Brandon Marshall of the Dolphins, but enough quickness to not get beat over the top. |
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Jags
Nice on all fronts. good pick with a good explanation.
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Dang
that was a run on DT’s. lol
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Thank you for not mocking Blackmon to the rams.
You have my eternal gratitude.
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Doesn’t make a lot of sense, unless they can trade down to six.
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I totally agree
some fans at TST are going crazy over needing “playmakers” and “kalil can’t put points on the board”. It’s driving me c-r-a-z-y. Kalil is the better prospect at position of greater importance. That should end the conversation right there.
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I’d agree. How many times have we seen a good wide receiver suffer because he’s on a bad team?
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I'm just tired of seeing our QB's
get killed because the offensive line is terrible. Fix the trenches and then go get a star receiver. Ideally, a number one receiver is the cherry on top of your offense, not the main reason it produces.
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Not to Mention
yall just traded to pick up Brandon Lloyd and honestly, as a bronco fan, i can tell you he is a receiver who can make spectacular catches. So i think Bradford and Lloyd will make a great duo(if he resigns there), but only if yall can protect your QB
No on Jeffery
Our offense doesn’t have to a WR that puts up big numbers because we don’t throw it that often. If people want that then get a new offense not a new WR.
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I dunno, in the NFCCG, San Fran’s WRs were terrible.
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by Dan Kadar on Jan 31, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If San Fran had another talented receiver across Crabtree, they win that game.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
If Williams didn't drop those punts they would win that game
if Smith didn’t got 12-26 we would’ve won the game. If Goldson didn’t deflect two INT and knock out our starting CB we might have won the game.
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We those too. I'm just saying, can't control alot of those...you aren't going to replace Goldson for deflecting those INTs
Ditto (I think) Alex Smith. But you could definitely stand to improve your WR corps, no?
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
Our WRs corp is flat-out bad.
None of them were getting any separation from defenders aside from a handful of plays all game.
Would be a waste.
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by manraj7 on Jan 31, 2012 6:56 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
meh
i think that’s a bit much criticism.. an offseason for smith to get more acquainted with crabs would provide a much better idea of his (alex’s) ability and perhaps, ceiling.
It would be a waste of a pick to draft a WR in the first round
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Isn’t part of the reason he was 12-26 because the wide receivers can’t catch or make a play on the ball? Although he struggles to gain separation, Jeffery has good timing, leaping ability to make tough grabs. And don’t forget, SoCar’s QB play was really terrible this year.
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If he can't get separation Alex won't throw it.
Simple as that.
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by manraj7 on Jan 31, 2012 6:57 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Alex INT is low because he doesn't throw those risky balls.
Which is why you never see our WRs make plays.
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by manraj7 on Jan 31, 2012 7:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
YES
PLAY KAEPERNICK. Don’t say that on NN though the lovers will bash you
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You like Tebow?
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Well I will go to bat for you anytime you mention Kap
I want Kap starting like yesterday!
by San Fran Niners on Feb 1, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
me too
I really like the guy
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nah
they got shut down by a balling secondary
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lol
no one wins every target
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main discussion over at NN at this point.
About wether its the WR who can’t get separation or do the Niners have a QB thats too scared to throw the ball deep.
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Jeffrey would be a monstrous possession receiver that could go up and get the ball for Smith
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
If he has separation issues Alex won't throw to him
Alex needs the WR to be open by about a yard so Alex can make them jump for the ball.
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South Carolina WR
Yeah, Sidney Rice is bad too huh? You’re an idiot
You can quote that!!!!
Sidney Rice is good when he’s healthy. Problem is he’s healthy as often as Bob Sanders.
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by NordicBillsfan on Feb 1, 2012 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Also I'm open to drafting a TE though
I feel that a TE like Fleener would provide more of a benefit to the Niners than an extra WR
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Giants:Uhgg for Dwight Jones over Sanu
I’d even go out on a limb and say Fleener’s status will rise and definitely would rather have him over Jones AKA Ramses Barden 2.0
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Dwight Jones is nothing like Ramses Barden.
Barden ran a 4.6 40 and played for a small school. Jones played for UNC (we’ve got another “decent” WR from there) and runs close to a 4.4 40.
Also, there’s no point in getting Sanu. He’s very similar to Victor Cruz except slower and 2 inches taller. Sanu’s talents are probably for the slot…he can’t stretch defenses…so why try and move Cruz out from the slot or put Sanu as a flanker where he can’t use his talents as a superb route runner to the fullest? doesn’t make sense, Shaun.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:27 PM EST up reply actions
40 time is overrated..what was Fitz's 40?Nicks?
Take one look at Jones…he can explode off the ball and eat cushion..looks like doodoo after the catch.Sanu looks explosive and can and does do great things after the catch!
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Sanu is terrrrible off the snap....not much explosion, and can't beat press coverage that well.
Fitz and Nicks have awesome strength and physicality to muscle their way through. I wouldn’t say 40 time is overrated when it comes to WRs….Jones is a taller Mario Manningham….that’s what we need. Not another possession type guy.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I respect your position and actually hope a worthy OL slides to #32.
I think we can find a WR later,anyway.
I could even see a trade down in the works for us,as well as a trade of Osi.
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm with BBI
We need a speed threat to open the underneath for Cruz. Cruz is at his best finding the holes in the coverage.
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Fleener's not gonna be a 1st rounder he's too slow
and Jones is a lot faster then Barden. I do agree on Sanu over Jones tho, the hand measurement thing I think will drop Jones on draft day.
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RAGGGGGEE at where the giants are picking. /kidding
I love Dwight Jones’ skillset. I had my Giants picking him in my latest mock as well. Fantastic pick and the reasoning was spot on
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:24 PM EST reply actions
C'mon BBI!
I saw you make that pick and said the same thing..look at the tape,Dwight is just not dynamic…Fleener,Fleener!Wait and see he will rise!
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
What tape of him? I wouldn't put too much stock in the Senior Bowl, Shaun...WRs don't have that much time to get
acclimated to the QBs in that time. Jones’ upside is massive, though I’ll admit he’s more of a risk than Sanu is.
Also, Fleener looks to me like a Beckum type, and isn’t a solid blocker. I’d go for Dwayne Allen if we went TE in the first.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I actually youtubed both of them recently,despite our magnificent run and Super Bowl hype aplenty!
And that is my take.
I like Allen too and would be happy with him,but Fleener is 6’6" and still filling out.Whereas Becks(who I still think has a role) is 6’3" and too small for TE.
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
well, we can agree to disagree on these two haha.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
At least we agree on #32!
And we have since the start!
Go Blue!
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
boom!
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
would've also been a good pick
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Fleener is a tortoise
look at that tape. He’s good, but before the 2nd round he’d be a reach around.
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he said reach around!
And I long for the days when Cordy Glenn could fall to the end of the 1st
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
Jerry Reese for President 2012..let's make that happen!
by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
I hope Porky Glenn either goes way before us or after us.
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Course you do lol
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by BigBlueIntervention on Jan 31, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
what do you see in the differences when you watch D.Jones and Sanu actually play football
Kadar,44,neutral fans of any team.
I’ll take opinions on Fleener and Dwayne Allen as well.
All the way to a Super Bowl victory like a knife through butter
JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
Can't spell Elite without ELI
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by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
id rather sanu
i know my oppinion doesnt mean much, i feel cruz would do fine on the outside or slot and same with sanu. I just love sanu’s physicality and he seems to have better hands then jones
Meh on Jones
I’m meh on Jones. He’s all right. I’ll say this Russ Lande had Jones in the top 10 during the College Football season and now writes that scouts have been so turned off with his separation skills and route running that’s hes a third or fourth round pick.
My top Five Players for Giants:
CB Stephon Gilmore would be great with New York, unfortunately gone in this mock
Mark Barron-S.
Perry Fewell uses three Safeties A TON. Imagine Barron playing the SS/LB hybrid role with Rolle getting to play CF and Phillips moving to SS that’d do wonders for the Giants defense. I think he fits what Fewell likes to do with the 3 S really well except with better ball skills
Vontaze Brufict
I think the Giants have enough leadership to keep him in check. And if the Giants are picking 31st (or 32nd) he’ll probably be the most talented player on the board, plus he’s very long and fits their system well, I think.
I know they don’t target Linebackers early, but Burfict, I think will be their #1 LB on their board. Just a hunch.
Dwayne Allen
Can block and catch. Ballard’s less of a blocker than he should be for his size and an average receiver to boot.
Players that are gone in this mock I like for Giants
Kendall Wright. His height could cause him to fall here and that’d be a good get. The Giants don’t have that kind of speed.
Peter Konz-move Baas to guard.
Kelechi Osemele and Cordy Glenn.
I think Glenn could play Tackle for the Giants (RT) and Mackenzie needs to be replaced
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by Jesse Bartolis on Jan 31, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
You and the reptiles again
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Panthers
Carolina Panthers would not pass on Blackmond fyi
The Panthers Have To Go CB
Gamble had no help last season not mention he’s getting up there in age. They drafted two D-Lineman in the 3rd round last year, so even though there is a need up front you have to let the young guys develop. And as much as the team needs a WR, scoring points was not their biggest problem last season.
Longoria is the next Brooks Robinson
This draft is VERY deep at CB
if Blackmon is there we will take him and get a CB in the 2nd
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I can't see how the redskins pass on Blackmon
Most people would agree receiver is our second biggest need. Our WR corp is so lacking in talent
If the Redskins take a WR, I think it’ll be Kendall Wright. The others don’t fit what they do as well.
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You know RG3 has to go in the #2 slot regardless of who makes the pick!
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JPP Is hands down the best DE in the NFL right now
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by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:28 PM EST up reply actions
This time last year, no one had Cam Newton going No. 1. Loads will change.
I’m not doing trades in mocks. The Rams won’t draft RG3. Simple enough?
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I hear ya about not doing trades in mocks
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by Shaunthegiant on Jan 31, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
i think it's hard to judge what the redskins do
until they get a legit QB and WRs. I think we should still be in Best Player Available mode before we start trying to figure out players that fit “the system”
by marc.nicholls1 on Jan 31, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Why would they draft a WR in the first round when they don’t have a quarterback to throw him the ball?
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It's not unprecedented. Calvin Johnson. Andre Johnson. Larry Fitzgerald
I understand you’re doing this in the context of we don’t know what the Redskins will do in free agency or the rest of the draft (like trade back in the first round), but I just feel if you have the talented player there at a position of need, you take him. Note: I am not directly comparing Blackmon to these guys in terms of skill set, but comparing them in the sense that they were clearly the best receivers of their respective classes.
by marc.nicholls1 on Jan 31, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Makes sense. I try not to predict FA either, but there’s a bunch of WRs this year and Snyder does like to spend.
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Bengals
Thank you, Dan. I love Stephon Gilmore and I see Miller’s upside. I’d be happy with this.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 31, 2012 6:33 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Thought you’d like that. Hard to put much analysis on Bengals picks because what they need is pretty obvious.
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Right. Plus, with 2 picks, we’ve seen it all already.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 31, 2012 6:36 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Yeah. Felt a little like a cop out, but the picks make sense. We’ll get a better feel for where the corners will fall in the next couple months.
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I dont think it’s a cop out because I’ve been pushing Gilmore over at CincyJungle with some resistance from the community. This mock helps me.
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by Joe Goodberry on Jan 31, 2012 6:41 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
lol. I thought you'd like that Joe
Everybody at the Jungle will testify to the fact that Joe has been trying to sell us on Gilmore for the past month or so. That pick won’t be much of a surprise to our readers.
From Joe’s Jan 14th mock draft.
Stephon Gilmore may be a surprise pick, but he is the number three CB on my board and is somebody that I project will gain momentum as the draft approaches.
By the time the draft roles around we’ll be shocked if he’s not our guy.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 1, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Actually Joe (or Dan), I want to get your take on Miller
There’s so much chatter about Pead, Martin and Richardson on our boards that everybody has sort of forgotten about him. How much better is he than the next tier of running backs this year (Polk, Martin, Pead, Wilson etc)?
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 1, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
I like Ingram to the Jets
But I don’t know if we would take him over Mercilus.
Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.
by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 31, 2012 6:33 PM EST reply actions
I don’t see the flexibility in Mercilus for him to move to 3-4 OLB.
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I suppose
But honestly as long as you give the Jets a pass rusher in the first I think fans will be happy.
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by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Jan 31, 2012 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for not giving the Panthers a DT
I like the pick… IF Kirkpatrick can get his sh** straight..
You have Zach Brown falling to us in the 2nd right??!!! Lol that would be a great draft for the Panthers
I would love it
Brown in the 2nd is a dream of mine. though i think Blackmon is to good to pass up on if he falls to us in the 1st.
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good pick for the jets but just one issue
you say " : Rex Ryan loves pass rushers " . well he has passed on 1 for 3 years now in every round . maybe we pss again and get an olb later on
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Texans
I’m kind of indifferent on the pick. I don’t really see Poe fitting into the defense with Wade Phillips preference for a DT that can rush the passer more than just occupy space, so I think if we do go DT it would be Alameda Ta’amu based on what he did at the Senior Bowl, but Poe still has opportunities to shine. I still think WR or CB will be the pick though, depending on who falls. I would love to see Alshon Jeffery there. I think he fits what the Texans want to do on offense, and isn’t immediately pressured to become a No. 1. Also, given Gary Kubiak’s fascination with TEs, I wouldn’t be surprised if the pick turned out to be Dwayne Allen. Just my thoughts. Can’t really fault you for the choice this early in the process.
We're in a perfect position, really, for BPA
WR, TE, NT…I’m happy with any of those selections. I’m not completely sold on CB in the first since it’s not a huge need, but we’ll see. Not sold on Jeffrey to the Texans due to the FO’s history of not targeting players with a so-called weak work ethic. We’ll see, I won’t be upset if we do pick him up, that’s for sure.
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
If the draft played out like this
I think I’d be growing a rubbery one as Alshon Jeffrey falls that far. I’d even swap a pick or two to move up to get him.
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It'd be a "Reach"
But I’d still rather a guy like Konz and move him to guard, or wait on Zeitler in the 2nd personally
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by ICEICETHATGUY13 on Jan 31, 2012 7:15 PM EST reply actions
I'd be happy with the Brockers/Minnifield tandem.
As long as the Patriots move one of McCourty/Arrington/Dowling/Moore to safety.
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Also surprises me...
…how Virginia’s CBs are always ranked so well, yet the team is never one of the better ones in the ACC. Minnifield is trained in a Belichick-based defense established by Al Groh, so I like the pick. Can never have enough positive players in the secondary. If they get Harrison Smith in the 2nd I’d be a happy camper.
by Richard Hill on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Nice.
I like a DT to Denver in the first round, but I’d be worried about passing on a stud WR like Jeffrey there…
Erras.
Agreed.
Still or Brockers for me; Minnifield if they’re gone. I can even see Dwayne Allen as logical. Mike Adams, maybe. Less certain about a WR or a S. And I figure best RB available in the second, or a cornerback.
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If Blackmon falls that far
I don’t see any way he gets past the Panthers, despite our bigger needs, he would be the overwhelming BPA.
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I think I’d rather have Poe
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WR is the only major need. With Jeffery, Jones, and Sanu still on the board the Texans will pick one of them. Sanu has Texan written all over him, he has the skill set and playing style the Texans want in WR. also Wade actually likes our DTs. So DT wont be a our 1st round pick.
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I agree with you
WR is a larger need than DT, and I think I’d rather take Ta’amu. Poe is great at run defense, but isn’t a complete DT like Wade prefers.
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
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great pick (fart noise)
Insightful breakdown of why you disagree with the pick
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I get crapped on whoever I mock to the Chiefs, so whatever
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by Dan Kadar on Jan 31, 2012 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I figured a rep from every website had a hand in the pick
its DeCastro Mainia over at Arrowheadpride & I can’t firgure out y. I get he’s great. But I can’t come to like him at 11. (smile noise)
lol
They are a hard team to mock for pre free agency
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I'm as of right now inclined to give them a tackle
to let Albert slide inside. Or a NT. Not a Gregg fan personally
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I actually thought you were spot on with your KC analysis.
I’d prefer a tackle (Reiff or Martin), but if both are gone (as they are in this scenario) I’d probably go with DeCastro. He’s not the most exciting prospect, but I’m a big proponent of building a team starting with the lines and KC is still missing two starting quality lineman (Albert, Asamoah, Hudson, ?, ?). DeCastro should fit well in their scheme, give them some nastiness on the line and he’s looks like he’s a pretty sure thing. I also might consider Adams there as you said. Too early for a NT and I don’t want anything to do with Richardson in the first.
I absolutely can not give this draft any props or respect at all
Not one long snapper in the first round, and we didn’t get Blackmon? You know even if Sam is on his back in 0.32 seconds after the snap he can get the ball into the air and Blackmon can find it, jump to wherever it is, snag it, and score. We don neade no stankin OTs. I’m sure Jason Smith will work out at LT
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by dbcouver on Jan 31, 2012 8:49 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Whats hogs gavens opinion
on Tannehill
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Pretty much split
About half of the people over there are hoping to trade up for RGIII & the other half would like to trade back & take Tannehill later in the 1st.. Of course there is also a lot of Matt Flynn as a FA or Brandon Weeden in the 2nd as well. I would like to see either a trade up or wait until next year, I don’t think that Tannehill is the answer.
Does Williams stay at LT?
If one of these guys is the pick at 6? Or would Reiff/Martin send him to the right side?
As an aside
Dan I think you have both Brockers and Still way,way,way to low.
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DL to GB? That will work.
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D.Jones is a reach
Giants don’t reach.
BPA = Mark Barron.Plus IMO Tommy Streeter or Stephen Hill are better value in the second than Jones in the first.
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Actually, good job.
Several of your themes are on point. For example, Blackmon falling out of the Top 10. And there will be a run on OTs, DTs and DEs/OLBs.
However, you’re discounting character too much. Janoris Jenkins and Dre Kirkpatrick won’t be picked in the Top 15. A few reasons here: For starters, this isn’t a good draft for CBs (sorry Bucs fans). After Claiborne, there’s a whole bunch of ’em grouped together in the second and third round. Differentiating them is difficult and character will play a role.
Also, I like that you pushed Burfict out of the first round. It’s about time we saw some sense around here on that front.
Regarding the Broncos’ pick, I’m non-plussed by Still but remain open minded.
Anyway, fine work!
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Jan 31, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions
Or you could be overvaluing character
Which is overvalued by everyone that is not hired by a professional sports football team. Teams want to win and talent does that more than how bad you want it or other overrated immeasurables.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Could be.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
Jenkins will drop for being 5’9 as he will for character.
The weed thing stopped me from putting Kirkpatrick on the Redskins. I think after what happened with Trent Williams (and whoever the other guy was) this year, they’ll avoid potheads.
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I think draftniks have been slow to come to grips with the reality of Jenkins.
He didn’t dominate last year and should have. Then, he didn’t blow anyone away at the Senior Bowl. What happened to the kid who showed so much potential at Florida? Who knows?
But I believe, between the drugs and his lackluster performance the past 10 months, he’s played himself out of the first round. Let’s face it: This kid is no Jimmy Smith.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
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There's also teams like the Cowboys.
Who have a huge need in the secondary and have pretty clearly shown they don’t value character that highly. I could easily see Kirkpatrick going there.
Two right tackles in the Top 10 and a guard at 11
That would be unusual. Although with more teams playing pass rushers on both sides it would make sense to value the right tackle more. Not sure if the professionals have realized that yet.
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Great post.
rec’d
You made logical picks, and explained why. This is probably the best mock draft I’ve seen so far this year. The tables might have a factor in that favoring, but it was a job well done.
I’m not sure if Blackmon will fall out of the ton ten, and if he does, I’m sure some teams might trade up and pounce on him.
As a Jets fan, I like the pick. I know a lot of us want Courtney Upshaw, but I just don’t see him falling that far. I’m also glad that you don’t have us taking Mark Barron. The Jets need to address the safety position, but if we get a good pass rusher in Ingram, would take pressure off the safeties. Plus Barron is a reach at 16. Ingram can play DE and OLB, so he can really fit in with Rex’s defensive schemes. Inversely, a good safety could take need away from the pass rush, but I think a safety can be addressed later in the draft, or through Free Agency.
Overall a great mock.
Not bad, but people have been mocking DTs for the broncos the last 3 years.
I’ll believe it when I see it. However, I do think this will change once free agency hits. EFX did hit on Bunkley who was a stud all year. Also Thomas was average, had some nice plays—would be a good rotation guy. I know you stated that this mockdraft could changed based on free agency, but I’m saying the broncos will probably be one of those teams that change their needs based upon free agency. Broncos do have money to spend. Plus I like a veteran DT over a rookie DT because most rookie DTs don’t make an impact right away. I would like to take Mike Martin in the third round though. He would be a good one to develope.
by tiderfootball09 on Jan 31, 2012 11:39 PM EST reply actions
Janoris Jenkins is growing on me
good pick
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by Archie Barberio on Jan 31, 2012 11:44 PM EST reply actions
Yeah I can't hate too much.
He’s a little short, but he will play in the NFL a long time. I prefer both him and Ingram to DeCastro, even though it looks like DeCastro will probably be gone anyway.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
I like the chiefs
pick if they don’t go after RG3 what we all know they really need is a QB but I do love me some Decastro if we can’t get our hands on RG3
by kcchiefs2782 on Feb 1, 2012 12:24 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Bills
Buffalo has a huge need at 4-3 DE, but until Stevie Johnson is resigned, the WR need is just as big. Blackmon is one of those talents that I think Buffalo would have to take if he dropped to them, even if their bigger need was DE.
But it all depends on free agency. Do we resign Stevie Johnson, Demetrius Bell, Scott Chandler? Can we sign Mario Williams or Cliff Avril?
Upshaw’s a pretty standard pick, so I was a bit disappointed after I’d heard you were switching it up. But he would indeed be a good fit at pass rusher.
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It’s more likely the Bills sign a WR in free agency than a pass rusher.
by MattRichWarren on Feb 1, 2012 5:56 AM EST up reply actions
I can’t see Buffalo signing Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe this off season. Those are the only WRs available this year who are comparable to Blackmon. If he’s somehow on the board at 10, I can’t see Buddy Nix passing on the BPA to take a positional need (he proved that when he took Spiller). There are going to be pass rushers available in the 2nd as well. This mock has Curry, Perry and Branch all available in the 2nd. If Buffalo drafted Blackmon and one of those guys with their first two picks I would be very happy.
Can anyone tell me why every mock out there has the Hawks at 12?
Not even one mock has them winning the coin flip. Is that because everyone thinks the Hawks would have destroyed KC at the end of the year?
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by kelly20210 on Feb 1, 2012 5:26 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
I completely agree
I have been through mock draft and mock draft, and not a single one that I recall has the Seahawks at 11 and the Chiefs at 12. Maybe they are playing it alphabetical, but I like to think your reason is the real reason. We will see at the combine anyhow how it truly plays out but I personally would love to see J. Blackmon lining up opposite Sidney Rice with Doug Baldwin playing slot.
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by Seahawk Junky on Feb 1, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions
Ha
We can get David DeCastro at either pick :)
What I want to know is do we alternate picks in subsequent rounds?
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Ravens
Good pick. I personally think we will re-sign Gurode and go that route, but if not Konz is a solid option as he can play G as well which could be big if we lose Grubbs. If Jeffery falls that far I think he could potentially get a look from us as well.
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Lions + Glenn = Wasted Pick
Glenn is a OG or ROT, neither of which is a position the Lions should address this off-season. What they need is a OC or LOT to replacing the aging players currently on the team. Glenn would just take the spot all ready filled and still leave the Lions looking for replacements for Backus and Raiola. Peter Konz would be a better pick, he could play at OG for a year and then move inside to OC. Another possible pick would be Mark Barron, who I do not see on your list. Getting a SS is the Lions #1 need to fix the secondary and Barron looks like he would be a great fit.
So if Konz could play at OG for a year...
Then clearly OG (RG to be specific) is not locked down, and could be addressed this off-season with a guy like Glenn. BPA > Need.
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with the 3rd pick we should trade it to the browns to pick up their 4th and 22nd pick the my dream would follow…. 4TH) Justin Blackmon WR 22ND) Janoris Jenkins CB 35TH) Andrew Dakto OT 67TH) Nigel Bradham ROLB 98TH) Marcus Forston DT 130TH) Nate Potter RG 162ND) Tommy Streeter WR 194TH) Mark Asper RG 207TH) Matt McCants OT… that should give us depth and a quick turn around for 2012 instead of 3-13 more like 9-7
Worst 2012 Mock Draft
Let’s start with #2…
#2: Yes, the Rams need QB protection. But when a can’t miss WR is available, grab him.
BLACKMON
#3: Vikings take the (now) available OT stud Kalil
#6: The Redskins do not have a QB and the #3 QB is on the board?
TANNEHILL (OK, they might go best available in sure thing CLAIBORNE, cb, lsu)
#12: Blackmon IS an elite receiver (you would know this if you’d seen him play with any regularity) and will not be available… That’s a good thing, because the Seahawks biggest need (with Rice and Baldwin at WR) is on the defensive front. I’ll go with the best pass rusher in INGRAM.
#16: Ingram is gone… think DB… take your pick of Safeties.
#23: First, WAY too high for Glenn (although OL is a need, more are available later)… secondly, Lions DL is STOUT… LBs and DB suck!
Best available here is probably Zach BROWN, LB… maybe MERCILUS, LB.
#26: Do you even WATCH football? The Texans play a one-gap scheme, and Wade Phillips doesn’t want or need a big monster at nose (he’d just get in the way of the blitzing LB’s! Pay attention)! The Texans don’t have a productive WR under 30… need to replenish. They likely cannot move up for a replacement for AJ, so they’ll settle forest available Alshon JEFFERY looks like a good fit.
Aside where you stole from other mocks (nearly verbatim)… you DO have some thoughtful comments elsewhere. But these glaring mistakes are just lazy… study!
Please let me know where I have stolen from other mocks verbatim. This confuses me.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 2, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the funniest thing of all
is this
maybe MERCILUS, LB.
you act like Dan doesn’t watch anything, yet you completely miss on Mercilus’ position. He’s a DE, not a LBeezer bub.
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I like how you use the term “mistakes” on a mock draft.
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Wow.
First off, what’s your problem? Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn’t mean they don’t know what they are talking about.
I think you have #2 backwards. When a can’t miss LT is available, grab him. WR’s are interchangable. It’s not like Blackmon is Calvin Johnson, he’s Dez Bryant 2.0.
Skins at #6 is a tough call, but if they didn’t want Gabbert last year, I have a hard time seeing them reaching for Tannehill at 6. Claiborne makes sense if he’s there, but I certainly wouldn’t fault them for taking another OL.
Lions: No way Mercilus, who most think would have trouble playing LB in a 3-4, can play LB in a 4-3. I agree the LB’s and secondary are weak. Brown wouldn’t be a bad pick.
Texans: Yes they play a one gap scheme, but Poe isn’t just a space eater. He’s a big man with athleticism and I actually think he’d fit their scheme quite well. He reminds me of a Shaun Rogers type of player (big body, good penetrator).
And yeah, I don’t know what you are talking about with stealing from other mock drafts. I’d love to see some links.
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Alabama fan here. To my knowledge, Nico Johnson hasn’t declared for the draft.
by Doc1048 on Feb 2, 2012 10:18 PM EST via Android app reply actions
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