2 Round Mock
by indycolts21 on Jan 31, 2012 9:59 PM EST
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PrintI am getting my player rankings from: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
I am getting team needs from: http://drafttek.com/teamneeds2012.asp
I am getting the order from: http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2012.php
So if I mess up a team need or BPA, I am sorry. There will be trades in this mock draft, but with this new rookie wage scale I am not sure how the new value chart works, so I am going off my judgement. I will only explain and justify picks that I feel need some explanation. I am also going to try to make things a little different, but keep them within reason.
1. Indianapolis Colts: Andrew Luck
2. St. Louis Rams: Matt Kalil - I know this is the hot spot for trades, but I think the Rams think they would rather protect Sam Bradford's blind side for a long time than trade out for 2-3 more picks.
3. Minnesota Vikings: TRADE to Redskins: Robert Griffin III - Redskins give up 2012: 1,2 2013, 1
4. Cleveland Browns: Justin Blackmon - may be a bit of a reach but they need to get a playmaker for Colt.
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne
6. Minnesota VIkings: Riley Reiff
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: Dre Kirkpatrick
8. Carolina Panthers: TRADE to Bengals: Trent Richardson - Bengals give up 2012: Oak 1, 1 2013: 2, 5
9. Miami Dolphins: Courtney Upshaw
10. Buffalo Bills: Quinton Coples
11. Kansas City Chiefs: David DeCastro
12. Seattle Seahawks: Ryan Tannehill
13. Arizona Cardinals: Jonathan Martin
14. Dallas Cowboys: Janoris Jenkins - Jerry Jones does not have a huge problem with character issues - is willing to take the risk (Dez Bryant)
15. Philadelphia Eagles: Luke Kuelchy
16. New York Jets: Mike Adams - Need to upgrade over Wayne Hunter
17. From Trade: Panthers: Cordy Glenn
18. San Diego Chargers: Melvin Ingram
19. Chicago Bears: Michael Floyd
20. Tennessee Titans: Whitney Mercilus
21. From Trade: Panthers: Alfonzo Dennard
22. Cleveland Browns: Lamar Miller
23. Detriot Lions: Peter Konz
24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Dont'a Hightower
25. Denver Broncos: Devon Still
26. Houston Texans: Dwight Jones
27. New England Patriots: TRADE to Jacksonville Jaguars: Alshon Jeffrey- Jaguars give up 2012: 2, 4 2013: 2,3
28. Green Bay: Nick Perry
29. Baltimore: Vontaze Burfict
30. San Francisco: Kendall Wright
31. Patriots: Michael Brockers
32. Giants: Dwayne Allen
ROUND 2
1. St. Louis Rams: Mark Barron
2. Indianapolis Colts: TRADE to Carolina Panthers: Chase Minnifield: Panthers give up 2012: 2,4 2013: 2 (Bengals)
3. Minnesota Vikings: Mohammad Sanu
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Zach Brown
5. Cleveland Browns: Brandon Thompson
6. Jacksonville Jaguars: from TRADE: New England: Fletcher Cox
7. Minnesota Vikings: Stephen Gilmore
8. Miami Dolphins: Kelechi Osemele
9. Buffalo Bills: Coby Fleener
10. Carolina Panthers: from TRADE: Indianapolis Colts: Dontari Poe
11. Seattle Seahawks: Jerel Worthy
12. Kansas City Cheifs: Orson Charles - Many teams are going to go for TEs, considering the success they have been having.
13. Dallas Cowboys: Zebrie Sanders
14. Philadelphia: Ronnel Lewis
15. New York Jets: Vinny Curry
16. New England (from Oakland): Andre Branch
17. San Diego Chargers: Andrew Datko
18. Chicago Bears: Brandon Washington
19. Philadelphia Eagles (from Cardinals): Markelle Martin
20. Tennesse Titans: Ben Jones
21. Cincinnati: Jayron Hosley
22. Detriot Lions: Lavonte David
23. Atlanta Falcons: Kevin Zeitler
24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Josh Chapman
25. Denver Broncos - David Wilson
26. Houston Texans: Jared Crick
27. New Orleans Saints: Audie Cole
28. Green Bay Packers: Casey Hayward
29. Baltimore Ravens: Michael Brewster
30. San Francisco 49ers: Trumaire Johnson
31. New England Patriots: Rueben Randle
32. New York Giants: Brandon Boykin
This is my first 2 round mock so please feel free to give me some feedback.
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As a Bengals fan
Hate it. No way we give up both #1’s plus a 2 and 5 next year to move up 9 spots in the draft. I understand trading up to get Trent ( I dont agree with it) but no way they give up so much. Bengals have many more glaring needs (G/CB/SS) than RB.
OK
I do think that the price is high but I think that any team that is going to trade with the Bengals is going to want both 1’s. I don’t think the Bengals would call off the trade because of that. I also expect them to have to give up something next year, maybe a 3 or 4 instead of a 2. Regardless, the Bengals are going to have to give up at least 3-4 picks to get Richardson.
by indycolts21 on Jan 31, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
ANswer
Carolina already has two goof rbs: WIlliams and Stewart. And they locked up WIlliams for a fairly long time by giving him a new contract.
I agree that the trade for Trent is ridiculous.
A lot of mockers don’t have Richardson going until around the # 20 spot anyway. The Bengals would sit and wait as Richardson is not that much of an impact player.
If the Bengals really wanted him, a first and second rounder this year would be as much as anyone would want to give up. I would think the Bengals would be almost as happy with Lamar Miller or Doug Martin or David Wilson.
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with you
No way the bengals trade both firsts, they will do the same thing as last year, wait and get whos left that they like. They would trade to early second for Martin or miller before they trade for Richardson.
by JCompton41 on Feb 1, 2012 10:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Please no
I’d rather trade down to get a running back in the top of the second than give up two first rounders for Richardson. I love him as a prospect, but I doubt he takes this team to the next level. Two first rounders can go a lot farther towards building up this team.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 1, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
+ everything!!!
personally
I don’t want to see Marvin fired, I want him to be promoted to G.M. while handing the reigns over to Zimmer as head coach. Who Dey!!!
by joeb69 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM EST replyactions 2 recs
I think both firsts is unrealistic myself
but how would Bengals Nation feel about trading your #17, second, and third instead? You would get Richardson, and still have another late first round pick.
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by carolinapillpusher on Feb 1, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
still dont like it
To many needs to be getting rid of high picks. Secondary and oline are bigger needs than running back. I would rather trade up infront of kc and grab decastro for less and fill a bigger need.
by JCompton41 on Feb 1, 2012 2:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'll raise you.
I’d rather trade down to get a running back in the top of the second than give up two first rounders for Richardson.
Well, I’d rather have my johnson slammed in a door than let my sister live in Oregon.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Your sister is
Trent Richardson. Finding out he’s a girl is going to raise a few eyes at the combine. lolol
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Can't argue with the picks
Not a huge fan of Allen as the pick, but he is a great player. Boykin is tough, athletic, and can handle returns. Needs to get smarter, though, I saw him get lost a lot in coverage. But he may be an ideal nickel.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler G, 3: A.J. Jenkins, WR, 4: Neiko Thorpe S, 5: Vick Ballard RB, 6: Rishard Matthews WR, 6: some random LB, 7: BPA
yeap
but he’s 5"9, so cross him completely off the Giants radar.
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right
CWeb, Prince, TT and Ross are all 6 feet and around 200 lbs. They have their ideal build for a corner, Boykin isn’t that. It’s a good pick but the Giants look at the human body before production.
by The Cole Train on Feb 1, 2012 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
they look at production too, all their picks have been productive players
but yea, they have ideals they look at first.
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also idk what polk's value range is
but for the giants he may be another fit, i love how he runs as wel
For Denver...
Still is great in the 1st, but would like a CB/WR in the 2nd…BPA…Brandon Boykins, CB, Georgia
Thinking
You guys may want to add another RB since you guys are a run heavy team. McGahee is getting up there in age, and I just think that Moreno is injured too often and is not that good. You guys also have Thomas, Royal, and Decker at WR, so I don’t think thats a big prob. Could see you guys go CB though.
by indycolts21 on Jan 31, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
if they did add a RB i hope it is not Wilson I think he is one of the most over rated players in this draft.
at that position Boykin, Martin and Hayward are the best players on the board IMO
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
Re: Wilson being overrated.
Interesting perspective. I’m open to this idea and would like to hear your thoughts on this.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think Wilson is a great athlete and when he gets into the open field then he has the skills to make something happen.
Yet when he is handed off the ball I dont think he has the ability or vision to find a hole between the tackles. It seems that he takes an age to process all the information in front of him and then make a decision and not always the right one.
Against weaker opponents and weaker D lines at College level you get away with it. Against better College D lines like his game vs Clemson and in the NFL you get smashed and lose yards.
I had concerns before the Clemson game, the Clemson game proved it to me and his 22 yard loss vs Michigan was the icing on the cake for me.
On the basis of what I have seen he is a 3rd rounder because of his upside nothing more.
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
Same concerns
I’ve noticed the same thing. His vision and patience need improving. I think Ricky Williams struggled with the same problems. And then something clicked and he went off. Maybe Wilson could be coached up.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 2, 2012 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
i think those type of things are difficult to coach. seen the same problems of talented youngsters in many sports and very ever get passed those problems.
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
He might not be representative of all Denver fans.
A second round pick might be too high for WR/CB in this draft. Certainly, WR.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Jags
I am fine with it although I am slowly becoming less a fan of Kirkpatrick at the pick. Coples or Jonathan Martin would be my preference
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No Ta'amu?
Why Chapman over him?
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Doesn't Matter
Its an either or situation there. Chapman is just higher on the CBS rankings and is almost as big (I think). So I just gave you guys the BPA in that position
I think Ta’amu has potential to be a better player. Also, Ta’amu is 2 inches taller and 30lbs heavier.
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by John Stephens on Feb 1, 2012 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
Curious.
I am getting my player rankings from: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings
I am getting team needs from: http://drafttek.com/teamneeds2012.asp
I am getting the order from: http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2012.php
Did you deviate from the rankings and needs much?
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Rams
I like the Kalil pick in the first if we aren’t going to trade down. However safety is not a huge need with Mikell and Stewart. I would much rather go Zach Brown or Mahammed Sanu in the second. They fill a much bigger need. Good work though.
If it falls that way I'd be happy. Hell I'd be willing to pull the trigger on Adams unless someone else better comes down.
And the home of the .... JETS!!!
Now lets get a G-D snack!!!
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Cowboys
Janoris I am on board with. Sanders though is a terrible pick. He is a finesse tackle who can’t move inside and Dallas is committed to the man-child that is Tyron Smith at LT (or will be soon enough) and Doug Free at RT (which is where he best fits anyway). The pick there should easily be Vinny Curry to help with the pass rush.
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
Dwight Jones' draft stock in dropping like a rock
He’s probably a mid to late 2nd round pick now. Texans would probably look at Alshon Jeffery or Mohammed Sanu at #26
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
Didn't Know that
Thought Jones was the pick for Texans when I was doing this.
That's changed a lot after the Senior Bowl
Mohammed Sanu is probably the favorite WR for the Texans as far as the BRB is concerned. Jones has a lot of upside, but he’s dropped out of the first round. Now if he’s still there for the Texans in the 2nd, getting him & Sanu would be nice
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Feb 1, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Titans
Liked the draft, when you do an update can you put the player position next to them.
Also if you add a 3rd round please get McNutt for the Titans.
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by Titans_Firefighter on Feb 1, 2012 1:45 AM EST reply actions
who Luke Kuechly's gonna wish he was after he busts for the Eagles.
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by Rorschach44 on Feb 1, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
I laughed.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Colts
The trade to Carolina probably wouldn’t happen. Minnifield is a great corner and the Colts secondary desperately needs help. There is no reason for them to give that up, especially since picking at 34 gets them the same quality player they’d usually get in the first round.
I’m really hoping Dwayne Allen falls. If not, I’m fine with trading down if the Colts think Poe will still be there.
I really want the Colts to get Allen or Poe in the 2nd.
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by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
For me it’s Minnifield or Dennard. Those guys are solid corners who would really help bloster the weakest part of the Colts D. I think Tamme will be resigned and is a good TE, so it’s not as high a need is for me.
I’m still on the fence about Poe and don’t know if he’ll be able to adjust to the NFL.
Not Avoidable
The Vikes would definitely demand at least that much for a trade, even if the Browns moved up 1 they would probably ask for 2 1s since a lot of teams are really high on RG3.
I mean
If you want to trade up for RG3, which I think they will do. I am saying the price is going to be constant
It is silly to give up multiple firsts
to move up 3 spots. I would not be happy if Shanny made this deal.
Giants went 3 spots for Eli
2 1sts, 1 3rd, 1 7th.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler G, 3: A.J. Jenkins, WR, 4: Neiko Thorpe S, 5: Vick Ballard RB, 6: Rishard Matthews WR, 6: some random LB, 7: BPA
True but...
Manning wasn’t going to play for the Chargers, so they really had no choice, so the Giants had more leverage
And SD was still getting a franchise QB out of the deal
Worth more. Minnesota is dropping past the elite players there. That’s why STL is not the one dealing.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler G, 3: A.J. Jenkins, WR, 4: Neiko Thorpe S, 5: Vick Ballard RB, 6: Rishard Matthews WR, 6: some random LB, 7: BPA
Ravens
solid for us.
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- Troy Polamalu
Vikings
Not a bad trade. Reiff or Martin would do in the first.
But in the second I do not think they will pass on Zach Brown.
They need an OLB badly as Erin Henderson is a free agent and just so so.
Sanu is nice but I believe the Vikings will add a WR via free agency and then another one later in the draft. At least I would.
The LB will help the team more than a rookie WR who probably will have a longer LTI (length to impact) than the LB.
I wonder why.
They need an OLB badly as Erin Henderson is a free agent and just so so.
Someone should tell him the spells his name like a girl.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 1, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
icke your 1rd pick but your 2rd will be a ot or rb if it a rb maybee doug martin rb boisestate because of the injuery to best and the ?mark if he will play next year .if a ot marus zoseevics ot iowa or levyadcock ot okahoma state both players have some upside at ot and should upgrade ot spot for the lions .
Vikings
I agree with Mark. The trade me likey. I currently higher on Martin, but that could change after the combine. Regardless, I live that you addressed OT. In the 2nd, a Zach Brown, Stephen Gilmore combo would be the way to go.
Overall, good work.
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Buffalo Bills
Coples and TE Fleener.
Yes.
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Feb 1, 2012 4:47 PM EST reply actions
ya i cant argue with that
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard" -Norm Nixon
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
I like Coples
would rather grab a CB, or another pass rusher in the second. But Fleener makes sense there
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Panthers
i like the first trade, but not the pick. I like the 2nd pick but not the trade. are you saying we trade a future 2nd to move up 6 spots in the 2nd? thats dumb
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Thought Process
For the First trade I thought that the Panthers would take the trade, and pick Glen because they are going to want to protect Cam. Glenn also has the versatility to play both G and T. Through the 2nd two picks of the 3 I did the Panthers solidify the backfield with both Dennard and Minnifield. With that they can focus more in the D-Line and WRs, Could get a Nick Toon in the 3rd (at least what I have in my mock). So I think it works out.
Interesting idea
I don’t know the points situation (or care that much for a mock). But if you have a 1st round value on Minnifield, and you are staring at a few teams in front of you with CB needs, you would have to move up to guarantee Minnifield. I have him much higher than Gilmore. They have the extra 2 from Cincy, so they are really just trading a 4 for a 5. In this year’s draft, I don’t think the 8th pick is worth that much. I think Cincy does the worst out of all the teams involved.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler G, 3: A.J. Jenkins, WR, 4: Neiko Thorpe S, 5: Vick Ballard RB, 6: Rishard Matthews WR, 6: some random LB, 7: BPA
Jags
So they traded 4 picks to move back into the 1st? I’m confused
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 1, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions
I see
Yes I do suppose the 4 picks are a bit much maybe take out the future second?
But I do think the trade happens since they probably want a WR for Gabbert. Jeffrey seems to be the player that the Jags will get, better to get him at 27 than risk it in the 2nd. Due to the fact I don’t think Jeffrey will go into the 2nd round – the 49ers or some other team might take him before.
Ok
I wasn’t sure about how listed them, I think they could move back into the first but I can’t see 4 picks, possibly a 2nd and a future 3 or 4th
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 3, 2012 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
RGIII to the Redskins would be great & I think the compensation is about right but ....
I think that he is going to the Browns. I think that Cleveland hired an OC(Brad Childress) who values a dual threat QB but if he ends up a Redskin I will be in Hog Heaven. I think some of your other picks are a little off tho. Datko in the 1st is very unlikely & after his Senior Bowl week, I think that Zabrie Sanders will drop a round or two. Nice mock
I like RG3
And I loved him during the season. I think he’s played so well that he’s priced us out. I don’t think we can afford to trade up with the way our roster looks. Unless he falls to 6, he isn’t going to be a Redskin. If he doesn’t fall to 6, I’d bet that Shanny tries to recreate his 2011 draft magic.
Lions
I don’t see Mike Adams am i missing something my eyes are pretty bad :)
honestly based on what i see i would prefer
Mike Adams in the first and
Michael Brewster in the 2nd round
That would be a perfect draft based on what you have here
Adams
Adams is to the Jets in the 1st. So he is gone by the pick for the Lions. Brewster is a 3rd round pick in this mock.
Don't think Browns would want Thompson
They just drafted Taylor and Rubin is signed for awhile, I believe. Strongest part of their defense.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Janoris Jenkins CB, 2: Kevin Zeitler G, 3: A.J. Jenkins, WR, 4: Neiko Thorpe S, 5: Vick Ballard RB, 6: Rishard Matthews WR, 6: some random LB, 7: BPA
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