PC's 1st Mock
by pcroadrage on Feb 11, 2012 2:06 AM EST
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PrintAlright, this is my first Mock of the season. Might be a little bumpy but bare with me and please offer opinions and suggestions about your team.
First here are a few key FA signings (I don't like trying to predict FA signings but some of them have major draft impacts): Peyton Manning to Miami, Matt Forte to Cleveland, Mario Williams to Cincinnati, Carl Nicks to Washington, Vincent Jackson to New England, Matt Flynn to Seattle, Marques Colston to Jacksonville. Everyone else either resigns or doesnt have much draft impact.
Round 1
- Indianapolis: QB Andrew Luck
- *Traded to Washington for #5, #39, and 2013 2nd* QB Robert Griffin III
- Minnesota: OT Matt Kalil
- Cleveland: OT Riley Reiff
- Tampa Bay: CB Morris Claiborne
- *St. Louis: WR Justin Blackmon
- Jacksonville: DE Quinton Coples
- Miami: OT Jonathan Martin
- *Traded to Cincinnati along with #40 for #17, #21, and #84* RB Trent Richardson
- Buffalo: DE Melvin Ingram
- Kansas City: OG David DeCastro
- Seattle: DT Devon Still
- Arizona: WR Kendall Wright
- Dallas: CB Janoris Jenkins
- Philadelphia: LB Like Kuechly
- New York Jets: DE/OLB Nick Perry
- *Carolina: CB Dre Kirkpatrick
- San Diego: OLB Courtney Upshaw
- Chicago: OT Mike Adams
- Tennessee: DT Michael Brockers
- *Carolina: OLB Zack Brown
- Cleveland: WR Michael Floyd
- Detroit: OG Gordy Glenn
- Pittsburgh: DT Dontari Poe
- Denver: C Peter Konz
- Houston: WR Alshon Jeffery
- New England: SS Mark Barron
- Green Bay: OLB Whitney Mercilus
- Baltimore: ILB Dont'a Hightower
- San Francisco: WR Dwight Jones
- New England: CB Alfonzo Dennard
- New York Giants: TE Dwayne Allen
Round 2
- St. Louis: DT Jerel Worthy
- Indianapolis: DT Fletcher Cox
- Minnesota: WR Mohamed Sanu
- Tampa Bay: OLB Lavonte David
- Cleveland: DE Andre Branch
- Jacksonville: CB Chase Minnifield
- *St. Louis: CB Stephon Gilmore
- *Cincinnati: OG Brandon Washington
- Buffalo: TE Coby Fleener
- Miami: WR Nick Toon
- Seattle: OLB Ronnell Lewis
- Kansas City: RB Lamar Miller
- Dallas: OG Kelechi Osemele
- Philadelphia: FS Markelle Martin
- New York Jets: QB Ryan Tannehill
- New England: OLB Vinny Curry
- San Diego: OT Zebrie Sanders
- Chicago: RB David Wilson
- Philadelphia: OLB Bobby Wagner
- Tennessee: C Ben Jones
- Cincinnati: CB Leonard Johnson
- Detroit: OLB Sean Spence
- Atlanta: DT Brandon Thomas
- Pittsburgh: ILB Vontaze Burfict
- Denver: DT Alameda Ta'amu
- Houston: OLB Bruce Irvin
- New Orleans: OG Kevin Zeitler
- Green Bay: DE Billy Winn
- Baltimore: WR Tommy Streeter
- San Francisco: CB Brandon Boykin
- New England: DE Derek Wolfe
- New York Giants: OLB Jonathan Massaquoi
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I can't see the Texans going with an OLB in the 2nd even if they don't resign Mario
At that spot, I think they’d like Zeitler, Streeter, or Wolfe instead, with Wolfe being the odds on favorite since Ta’amu just came off the board one pick before. No problem with Alshon Jeffery in the 1st though. Andre Johnson should be able to get him in shape, ready for the season, & be a good role model for him
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
I love you your first on all the mocks
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
I can't grammer correctly
I love how you are the frist to comment on all the mock drafts.
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True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Only when I catch them early
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Feb 11, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Rams
If this happened then it would be a successful 2 rounds for us. There might be some mad about no OT but I think we just have to get a FA. Good Job..
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Everything that shine ain't always gonna be gold
I'll be fine once I get it, I'll be good"
-Kid Cudi
by RG31 on Feb 11, 2012 3:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Bengals
We wouldn’t have to give up that much to get him he’ll still be there at 11. Richardson may fall anyway. If not
Konz
Gilmore
Martin
Rams
Good draft, but I don’t think the deal happens without Washington’s #1 next year. Won’t just be #5, their #2 in 12 and 13
With those free agent signings
Who else is going to move up? Maybe Cleveland and Washington get in a bidding war.
Eagles
This would be an awesome draft. Kuechly can become the leader of our defense, drafting Martin we can move Nate Allen to SS where he might be better suited, and Bobby Wagner can start next to Luke at SAM. This would be amazing, but unrealistic. We need to use one of these picks of WR because DeSean is gone.
Shady McCoy: Franchise records or GTFO
Go Dawgs!
#TeamKuechly
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Broncos
Konz is the best player on the board and there are still doubts over Walton and Beadles who are very inconsistent. Konz would be a better starter than both of them. This wont be the most popular pick as there are still holes on the roster and positions elsewhere which the Broncos need to get younger but I would understand the logic if the Broncos went with this pick.
Ta’amu for me would be a good rotation with Bunkley, if he is resigned but personally have others still left with higher grades, notably Doug Martin.
"The Holy Writ of Gloucester Rugby Club demands: first, that the forwards shall win the ball; second, that the forwards shall keep the ball; and third, the backs shall buy the beer." - Doug Ibbotson
Not glamorous
but I would like it.
"I am not better than anyone else just because I play football."
Tim Tebow
I could live with it.
Not my favourite scenario but reasonable.
It will cost Washington more than you suggest to acquire the #2 overall pick and Griffin. Should be at least two #1s.
I still hold out that Manning returns to the Colts or is unable to play ever again but we’ll have to see.
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Manning is likely done...
But if somehow he can still play, he stays in Indy for one more year.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
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same boat for me.
People would not be happy about it but it might be the best move.
Wooooot! one of my teams made the postseason and won! PLAYOFFS!!!1
Denver Broncos: 2011 AFC WEST Champs!
Come on Toronto teams, one of you make the goddamn playoffs.
by Eddie.Teach on Feb 12, 2012 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Ravens
Solid for us. I like Streeters potential at WR.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Giants, free agents
While we like our Troy guys, Massaquoi is a little small for us at DE and we don’t value SAM that much. He would have to have a really good combine to go to the Giants that high.
I like Forte to the Browns and Colston to the Jags, moves make sense.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
Massaquai can combine whatever he wants
he’s not even a SAM, he’s an OLB in Georgia’s 3-4. Maybe the Giants need an LBeezer, but why just draft one cuz he’s listed as one? Terrible pick.
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Forget walking, I'll pay for his limo
He made Ninkovich look like Superman.
I still think Brewer is the answer. Reese does not waste draft picks. Unless Brewer is the answer on the left side, with Beatty in the last year of his contract.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
Yes
But it’s all about the benjamins. Cruz, Phillips, Kiwanuka, and Beatty all due in 2013.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
We'll probably extend Cruz before next year
Phillips will stay, but we’ll probably cut Rolle by then. Kiwi might be on his way out, PF started using him less and less this year, but depending on what happens with Osi, he might stay too.
I think Brewer's gonna be a 2 year redshirt unless someone's injured
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
And Coughlin doesn't play rookies on the line....
are you telling me its STACY ANDREWZ TIME?
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 12, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
if he farts he'll rupture an o ring
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Bengals
And signing Mario Williams, they have two ends already who are good at rushing the passer. I don’t believe he will end up there, one the ownership won’t spend that type of money and two they already have two solid ends.
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Pats
They won’t go for Barron. Even before the news of his surgery broke, this is a safety who can’t do man-coverage at all who;s had some behavioral issues. Furthermore, and maybe most importantly, the Pats need to get younger at WR and DT/DE- not Safety. The Pats are if anything too young in the secondary and could use a veteran FA like Michael Griffin.
If Brockers or Fletcher Cox are available at 27th overall, they’ll jump for it. The same with C Peter Konz I think, DE/OLB Nick Perry, and defintiely a WR if no one else. Wes Welker is really a slot-receiver who’s 31, Deion Branch is wearing out and is either gone this year or next year, and Chad Johnson is also in the 30+ WR Club. Pats don’t have much talent after that. WR and DT/DE are draft priorities in the 1st-3rd rounds. I won’t be surprised if Pats go for 2 WRs.
If Alfonzo Dennard is available at 31st overall and no one more impressive, Pats will trade back into the 2nd/3rd round and 2013. Did you see the fight he got into with Jeffery? That’s concerning. There will be at least one team interested in getting the best TE in the draft before the Giants/Colts have a shot at him. I suspect it could be the Eagles.
It is what it is
Well i had you guys sign Vincent Jackson
and most of those picks were BPA and filled a need
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Brandon Lloyd is far more likely than Vincent Jackson
but hey, maybe the Pats have the capspace for both. I definitely thinking signing a veteran Safety is a higher priority than signing a 2nd FA WR. Pats are way too young in the secondary.
It is what it is
Colts
No way Indy passes on Minnifield or Sanu for a defensive tackle. The needs in the defensive secondary and wide reciever corps are too glaring to ignore with those first round prospects there.
that was a though pick
I wanted to give them Blackmon but i had them wait since this draft is deep in 1st-2nd round WRs. I probably would have gone with Richardson, but they signed Forte. I dont think they would trade up for RGIII, so they missed out and are going with McCoy for at least another year. I also thought about having them trade back, which they are very fond of doing, but i couldnt think of a trade partner. It is clear that there offense is what needs focus. and the right side of their line is Terrible. Reiff is probably the best player on the board an he doesnt have any problems playing LT. Him and Thomas would make the best OT pair in the league and he could fill in at LT if Thomas ever gets hurt.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Lions
not bad but if the board fell this way and Glenn would be still be a good pick if we got a C later in the draft. Like 3rd round maybe Molk from Mich.
But I highly doubt that they would let Boykin slide by them in in the 2nd if he is there and depending on if we resign Tulloch or not Burflct would be a better pick.
but i could see them pulling the trigger on Konz in the 1st
by Motown_Soldier on Feb 11, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Steelers
Poe and Burfict?!? Damn fine mock, sir, even though I’ve heard that the Steelers have no interest in Burfict.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
I wish we would
I think he could do great things, and he brings unrivaled intensity
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 11, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
plus the value at the spot
some have him going in the first and he was there late in the 2nd. Steelers are smart enough to know value when they see it
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
If he were to fall to the bottom of the second
I would take a long look, dont know how interested our FO are though
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 11, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
They are also smart enough to know who to stay away from, and Burfict just might be that kind of player who they avoid at all costs.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Given the characters on that team
I doubt Burfict terrifies them
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Like who?
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
you mean besides the dirtiest player in the game or the rapest?
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
I can see from your comment that you aren’t particularly smart, so I’m going to try and lay this out nice and simple for you.
1. If you think that Harrison is the dirtiest player in the league then you either don’t watch football or you are too stupid to look at the actual facts and see past the crap that ESPN spews. The only reason people consider Harrison a dirty player is because he is a supposed “head hunter”, which couldn’t be further from the truth. In the past few years, he’s only been fined for two H2H hits, both of which were bang-bang players. Hell, even most NFL players agree that the rules that Goodell is implementing are awful and against everything that the NFL stands for. In fact, last year after Harrison was fined once again for a bogus roughing the passer call, players were coming out and stating that they would rather take a few concussions and permanent brain damage than an ACL tear (which is what is going to happen more often with Goodell’s rules). Not to mention the fact that ex-NFL players (and a lot of Hall of Famers) love Harrison and how he plays the game, and even go as far as saying he would fit in with the NFL in the 1970s.
2. Ben isn’t a rapist (not “rapest”). He was accused of rape, but this is America and people are innocent until proven guilty, no matter what you want to believe.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
But I bet you wouldn't let Ben anywhere near your sister.
There’s innocent until proven guilty and then there’s beating the rap.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
But I bet you wouldn’t let Ben anywhere near your sister.
I would gladly invite Ben into my home to have dinner with my family, and that includes my mom, my sister, my female cousins, etc., because if he had raped anyone there would have been evidence of it. I could go on and on about the facts of the case which clearly show that Ben is innocent (because unlike you I actually read up on both incidents), but you wouldn’t listen anyways.
There’s innocent until proven guilty and then there’s beating the rap.
Who are you to say he “beat the rap”? If you have evidence that proves he’s guilty then I suggest you turn it into the police, but if you don’t I suggest you shut the fuck up and accept that fact that I’m right and you are wrong.
"If you havin' dragon problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 arrows but my knee took one."
Sounds like you wouldn't need Ben holding you in a bathroom stall...
while his buddies watched the door. You’d bend over willingly.
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
A lot is two words. Allot can be one word but it has another meaning.
The only time you really want to use "myself" is when you are the recipient of your own action. Usually you're better off using "me."
Your is not the correct contraction of you are. The word you're looking for is you're.
It's anyway, not anyways.
But if you only remember one thing...
There are no apostrophes in plurals.
So a lack of evidence proves that it doesnt exist?
well at least now i can prove that god doesnt exist. at least by your logic.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
I'm sure you think
Ray Lewis killed a man.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
I'm one of the only people i know that believes Ray didnt do it
I think he was being confrontational with the guy, but i dont think he actually did it, one of his friends got heated up and did it. Of course no one knows for sure, but thats my opinion.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Someone got defensive
thats why i didnt want to say them in the first place. and on your points
1- it doesnt matter what you or others think about him, the fact is the guy breaks the rules and intentionally tries to hurt people. maybe you dont like the dirtiest player label, well who would you give it to?
2- getting on someone over a typo, the act of a desperate man. the fact is he was accused of it twice, you think thats a coincidence? So it wasnt proven, well guess what, most rapes aren’t. Do you have any idea how often rape is dismissed? it is one of the hardest thing to prove.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
1. James Harrison is short. Its pretty difficult for him to H2H anybody. Go back and watch the Massaquoi hit and you will see that Mass ducks his head into Harrisons who is aiming right for the chest. If you honestly think Harrison is a head hunter, then why has it only happened twice in the last couple seasons, surely he would be head hunting on every hit he makes? No, ESPN labels him a Head hunter and everyone buys the media hype and applies it
2. The first incident was a civil case, or in other words “pay me and I will shut up” case, and next to no evidence or even convincing story was brought to the table. Innocent till proven guilty. The second case is a bit more iffy, and i will admit it doesnt look good, but again no real evidence means innocent. No one will know what really happened in that bathroom and guess what? Its not our business, and its not up to us to determine innocent from guilty either.
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by Michael Hewitt on Feb 12, 2012 5:04 AM EST up reply actions
49ers
Don’t buy into “the hype” that SF is taking a WR, definitely not going to reach for Jones, there are quite a few gems in this draft, WR is the strongest position this year. I do like the Boykins pick.
I am not an Alex hater, I'm an Alex apologist hater. Now you know. -Mr Moses
well it's hard to think of much else that SF needs
and WR is deep, but most of that has been taken already, and i think Jones will fly up the board. UNC has been very good at putting out WRs lately and Jones has a very good combination of size and speed. Could be like a bigger and faster Nicks.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
San Fran could use a WR, a C, a S, and they might need another CB.
It is what it is
well i gave them a WR and a CB
I didnt want to give them O-Line because they just took 2 in the first 2 years ago and I dont know how much they want to pile top picks into one spot.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Don't worry about the past
Also don’t worry too much about corner unless Carlos Rogers leaves. If he stays we’re only looking for a #4 or #5 guy to fill in the roster.
Just keep in mind we draft what we call “gold star guys” — high work ethic, high football character, and most important, scheme fits.
So going down a list of needs with a grocery list and ticking them off isn’t very likely to yield accurate results.
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Bills
Ignoring that I like Upshaw a little better then Ingram, the pick I have a problem with is Fleener. It’s not that he isn’t he isn’t an excellent TE, it’s that he is a tight end. I know it is a position of need on just about everyone’s list for the Bills, but Gailey doesn’t really use them. Outside of the year he was working with Tony Gonzalez of course. I just can’t see the Bills drafting a TE that high because of that. I would look at Toon, Tannehill, Curry, or Irvin their.
Bucs
Love the 1st pick but not the 2nd. David is undersize. I know he plays big and violently but i’d rather have Miller in that spot if we dont go with Burfict.
Trust. Belief. Accountability. The new Buc way as pronounced by Coach Schiano.
Jags
Coples is good but I prefer Gilmore in the second
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
Twitter: @JWGreenbaum
forgot to mention
Colston would be a nice addition to the WR group.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
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sanu doesnt fall past NE
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 12, 2012 2:11 PM EST reply actions
Seattle
I could live with those picks… I’m not sold on Still but a pass rusher from DT is certainly needed, and cant fault that thinking. Lewis in the 2nd? Ummm yes please!!! Well done.
Panthers
I have been scheming for weeks with no succes on how we could get Kirpatrick and Brown without giving up a first-rounder next year. Looks like you have suceeded! I think you made a very interesting deal that is not overly homerific for the Panthers, though we might need to throw in a late pick next year. I just still don’t see Mike Brown and the Bengals giving up that second first round pick, depspite the pluses they could get in return (Richardson and a high second rounder). I will be on standby to go streaking however if they do manage to pull this deal off!
"You know the new iPhone? It’s faster, more powerful and smarter. It’s revolutionary. Why can’t the quarterback be like that? Why can’t you be a big, tall, fast, quick, strong, smart, mobile quarterback who’s unstoppable?"
-Cam Newton
by carolinapillpusher on Feb 13, 2012 6:47 PM EST reply actions
we could try to sweeten the deal a little more
since we are getting Kirk and they are also in the market for a CB we can give them one of our CBs. Maybe give them Butler. Not ground breaking but he is a very solid nickle and i think has 4th round value.
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