2012 Mock Draft (3 Rounds) Version 3.0
by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 12, 2012 3:49 PM EST
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As I looked over feedback from the quick 1-rounder I posted Friday, I decided it was better to rework the first round for my next installment of a 3 round mock.
A few notable FA signings:
- Matt Flynn to Miami
- Stevie Johnson remains in Buffalo
- Dwayne Bowe franchised by Kansas City
- Marques Colston to the Jags(I think Gene Smith is going to throw enough money Colston’s way that he is going to leave NO)
- Desean Jackson to Washington(call me crazy, but I feel like whatever is said publicly about Snyder’s involvement is irrelevant as he is going to push all the buttons to get a guy like Desean Jackson onto his team’s roster)
- Cortland Finnegan to St. Louis
- Vincent Jackson remains in San Diego
- Manningham to Indianapolis(Indy is going to need to bring in at least one good WR for Luck and I have a gut feeling Manningham might be that guy- and neither his last name resembling Peyton’s nor his big game in Indy have anything to do with this)
TRADES:
- Seattle trades #12, #43, and a 2012 first rounder to St. Louis for #2:Seattle makes a gutsy move up for RG III
- Philadelphia trades #14 and #46 to Jacksonville for #7: I know all of you people out there are going to bash me for me making a trade down for my Jags and netting picks, but the truth of the matter is that I feel that with Desean leaving, and with 2 2nd rounders, Philly might be tempted to move up for the #1 WR when he falls to the Jaguars, a team that could very well take him
- Denver trades #25 and #89 to Chicago for #19: JD Walton is seemingly not the long term answer at C, and Denver sees an opportunity to move up 6 spots and snag the top C in the draft, prior to Tennessee who could very well take Konz if he makes it to #20
- Washington trades #39 and #103 to New England for #31: Washington moves up into the bottom of the first round to get a guy who they believe can become their franchise QB
DRAFT:
ROUND 1
1. IND: Andrew Luck QB
2. ##SEA: Robert Griffin III QB
3. MIN: Matt Kalil T
4. CLE: Morris Claiborne CB
5. TB: Trent Richardson RB
6. WAS: Riley Reiff T
7. ##PHI: Justin Blackmon WR
8. CAR: Dre Kirkpatrick CB
9. MIA: Jonathan Martin T
10. BUF: Quinton Coples DE
11. KC: David Decastro G
12. ##STL: Devon Still DT
13. ARZ: Courtney Upshaw OLB/DE
14. DAL: Michael Brockers DE/DT
15. ##JAX: Melvin Ingram DE
16. NYJ: Luke Kuechly ILB
17. CIN: Janoris Jenkins CB
18. SD: Nick Perry OLB/DE
19. ##DEN: Peter Konz C
20. TEN: Cordy Glenn G(/T)
21. CIN: Whitney Mercilus DE
22. CLE: Michael Floyd WR
23. DET: Mike Adams T
24. PIT: Dontari Poe NT
25. ##CHI: Alshon Jeffery WR
26. HOU: Mohamed Sanu WR
27. NE: Fletcher Cox DE/DT
28. GB: Alfonso Dennard CB
29. BAL: Vontaze Burfict ILB
30. SF: Kendall Wright WR
31. ##WAS: Ryan Tannehill QB
32. NYG: Dwayne Allen TE
ROUND 2
1. STL: Dwight Jones WR
2. IND: Stephon Gilmore CB
3. MIN: Jerel Worthy DT
4. TB: Chase Minnifield CB
5. CLE: Zach Brown OLB
6. JAX: Juron Criner WR
7. ##NE: Vinny Curry DE/OLB
8. CAR: Brian Quick WR
9. BUF: Nick Toon WR
10. MIA: Andre Branch OLB/DE
11. ##STL: Zebrie Sanders T
12. KC: Leonard Johnson CB
13. DAL: Don'ta Hightower ILB
14. ##JAX: Kelechi Osemele G/T
15. NYJ: Mark Barron S
16. NE: Reuben Randle WR
17. SD: Bobbie Massie T
18. CHI: Brandon Washington G
19. PHI: Bobby Wagner OLB
20. TEN: Brandon Boykin CB
21. CIN: Lamar Miller RB
22. ATL: Coby Fleener TE
23. DET: Harrison Smith S
24. PIT: Kevin Zeitler G
25. DEN: David Wilson RB
26. HOU: Alameda Ta'amu NT
27. NO: Lavonte David OLB
28. GB: Ronnell Lewis OLB/DE
29. BAL: Marvin McNutt WR
30. SF: Ben Jones C
31. NE: Jayron Hosley CB
32. NYG: Doug Martin RB
ROUND 3
1. IND: Brandon Thompson DE/DT
2. STL: Sean Spence OLB
3. MIN: Stephen Hill WR
4. CLE: Cam Johnson DE
5. TB: Joe Adams WR
6. WAS: Tommy Streeter WR
7. JAX: Josh Norman CB
8. BUF: Matt McCants T
9. MIA: Orson Charles TE
10. CAR: Markelle Martin S
11. KC: Mitchell Schwartz T
12. SEA: Chandler Jones DE
13. PHI: Audie Cole ILB
14. NYJ: Jonathan Massaquoi OLB/DE
15. OAK:************************
16. SD: LaMichael James RB
17. CHI: Trumaine Johnson CB/S
18. ARZ: Brandon Mosley T
19. DAL: Amini Silatolu G
20. TEN: Brandon Brooks G
21. CIN: George Iloka S
22. ATL: Shea McClellin DE/OLB
23. DET: Travis Lewis OLB
24. PIT: Ryan Steed CB
25. ##CHI: Ladarius Green TE
26. HOU: Antonio Allen S
27. NO: Nigel Bradham OLB
28. GB: Kendall Reyes DE/DT
29. BAL: Michael Brewster C
30. SF: Dwight Bentley CB
31. NE: Marvin Jones WR
32. NYG: Senio Kelemete G
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Colts
The only way Manningham comes to Indy is if the price is right. Manningham is ok, but far from a number one. Honestly, the best bet Indy has at receiver is to resign Garcon and then draft someone who they can groom in their system. After all, receivers rarely do better when they change systems.
As far as the draft, there is no way the Colts draft Gilmore over Minnifield. Gilmore is too erratic and too often goes for the big play rather than the sure thing. That’s not the kind of corner that Indy needs. Minnifield has the bloodlines and the talent to be a good corner while Gilmore is probably going to flame out.
I’d love to get Thompson in the third. I think he’d fit very well in Pagano’s scheme as a nose tackle (he has the same measurables as Josh Chapman) when they’re in the 3-4 and a 1-tech while in the 4-3.
I think Indy is far more likely to retain Wayne or Garçon than to bring in a free agent.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Feb 12, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts for Chapman over Thompson, though, is that Thompson is like Nevis
And isn’t predominantly your typical NT/1-tech type DT. I’m sure the Colts would try to convert him, but essentially he reads like a pass rusher. Chapman reads like a guy that will bench press a double team and clog running lanes. The Colts have had so many poor run stoppers and so many pass rushers that I’d want Chapman just because he fills a need. I’m just tired of our LBs providing 80% of the run stopping capabilities.
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Panthers
I like it… But we don’t have a 3rd we traded it to Chicago for Greg Olsen
by rscott94 on Feb 12, 2012 4:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
blame waltr football
i copied and pasted straight off there
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that is news to me
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
Twitter: @JWGreenbaum
also makes the trade i threw in totally off
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
Twitter: @JWGreenbaum
I realize that it's fun to talk about Snyder spending big for free agents
but he really isn’t involved in football operations anymore. Think what you want, but as a lifelong ‘skins fan, I am 100% certain that you’re wrong.
Other than that, this isn’t a bad draft for the Redskins. I like it, and it’s both reasonable and realistic.
Agreed.
It is a decent draft for the Skins. The trade back might be unnecessary unless they are worried about Cleveland taking Tannehill. Most of the QB needy teams between NE and WAS had their QB’s taken care of in either free agency or the draft in this scenario. I don’t see them signing Jackson, he’ll demand to much money.
Also,
NE will only trade the 31st away if they get a 2013 1st rounder along with either a 2nd or 3rd in 2012.
It is what it is
Texans.
Solid draft. I think 3rd round might be BPA or OL. Antonio Allen was involved in a fight off field, so character concerns might set off a flag that the texans don’t like. But Allen played OLB on some downs, so I’m sure that Wade would love his blitzing ability.
by Slightly Obsessed on Feb 12, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions
I had him as a BPA and need
figured he made sense
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
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Not a horrible pick at all
But safety is not a need for the Texans right now. We have a solid starter in Quin and a top 10 talent at the position with Daniel Manning. Our secondary depth is pretty strong as well, as Demps and Nolan played well in their time. I would say just slide Senio Kelemete up to us in that spot. Nice draft!
Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!
by theSpaceCityKid on Feb 13, 2012 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Bengals
No way the Bengals leave the third without an OG.
by bigcrock on Feb 12, 2012 4:31 PM EST via Android app reply actions
There aren't any G left that would make any difference
I’d take Konz, Gilmore, Miller if still there, And Jared Crick
Maybe they sign Carl Nicks and Bobbie Williams for another year?
(Please don’t crush my dreams with your realism).
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 13, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty high on Mercilus
He’d be a stud rusher on the opposite side of Dunlap. Jenkins – meh. Lamar Miller in the second round is a steal. And IIoka? I’d rather that they stayed away from this years safety class altogether. I realize he had a nice Senior Bowl, but he’s a reach in the third. Plus, they’ve already got a 6’4 safety that they are developing in Sands.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 13, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Broncos
Broncos have to many holes on defense . they will not trade up unless Trent Richardson would fall into the twenty’s .
I don't know,
even at mid-2nd, I question whether Mark Barron is worth the pick. He’s going to miss the Combine and the consensus is he can’t do man-coverage at all.
As a Pats fan I’d love for you guys to take what I feel like is the most overrated player in the draft.
It is what it is
it is a vlaue selection
plus, last I checked Bart Scott is already like 31 and I do not think he will produce at a high level much longer. There are also good options for rush LB in the later rounds, like Massaquoi who I have you guys getting in the 3rd.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
Twitter: @JWGreenbaum
Maybe in later rounds,
But still, this team has to many needs that will hinder us until they’re fixed. Besides, Josh Mauga has been very promising.
Seahawks
A move up for RG3 would be lauded by 90% of the Seahawks fanbase (myself included) but I don’t think the FO would blow that much draft capital at once. A pass-rusher in the 3rd definitely addresses the other main need.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 12, 2012 5:09 PM EST reply actions
agree
Griffin is my favorite college player and would love nothing more than for him to wind up in a Seahawk uniform, but a) I don’t see the Rams giving us #2 pick and making division rival better and b) JS and PC move the other way, I don’t think they moved up at all in previous 2 drafts, only back… look for them to continue that and get more picks.
Yes, but who’s to say that someone wants to trade with the Rams? It will not be Cleveland (The WCO needs a couple of years to get worked into place), nor do I see anyone else moving up that far for that price. RGIII will drop to #4 Cleveland, and thats where it gets interesting, I do not see cleveland drafting him other than a draft and trade for either Washington, Seattle, KC, or Dallas. This is the spot where he gets traded and not for all the crazy amount of picks that have been thrown around. I do believe it will end up being the Redskins, and the Browns will either draft Blackmon or trade out again, very similar to what you proposed – but more likely with all the Philly ties in Cleveland.
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong!
My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch!
Once you start agreeing with TDSH, you know that you're wrong.
I like the first two picks for the Steelers (although I woudl take Jeffery in the 1st)
but no CB in the 3rd. The Steelers have way to much young talent at CB to pick one in the top 3 rounds. A better pick would have been Senio Kelemente
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 12, 2012 5:10 PM EST reply actions
You really want a 4th young starting-calibre WR?
I got Jeffery on my over-rated watch.
It is what it is
If it is Jeffery than why not
He is a stud and at 24 he is too good of value to pass up
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 12, 2012 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
I was think Bradham instead of Kelemente
I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.
"It would be tough for me to care less about their opinion, to be honest with you." Mike Tomlin
Pats
Love the Fletcher Cox and 2-WR picks. Pats often draft for offense in pairs. TE in 2010, RBs and Ts in 2011..
Don’t like the Washington trade. If Pats trade back, they trade back into the 1st round of 2013 with either a 2nd or 3rd round 2012 pick. I think there’ll be a lot of interest in that pick, including for Dwayne Allen, so the Pats are likely to get a good deal. Giants and Colts pick after them and both teams are in need of a young TE to groom.
It is what it is
you are so certain they will trade one of their first rounders
but neither pick is likely to net them a first rounder next year.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
Twitter: @JWGreenbaum
The trade last year with New Orleans was
the 28th overall 2011 pick in exchange for their 2nd rounder(mid-late) and their 2012 1st rounder. The Saints acquired the player widely considered the best running back in the draft. In 2012, the 31st pick is an ideal spot to grab the best TE in the draft.
There are a lot of teams who think they’re one major-upgrade away from a run at the championship. I’m sure at least one or two will be interested in the pick.
It is what it is
Rams desperately need OL and WR help, but you have them trading back and taking a DT?
I don’t see it.
Also, there is no way Dwight Jones is still there at #33. Fail.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Also, there is no way Dwight Jones is still there at #33. Fail.
YOu sure abou that becuase he had a disappointing all star week and is probably a late first SUPER OPTIMISTICALLY.
As for the DT situation it was a matter of taking the best player there that fills a position of need.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
Twitter: @JWGreenbaum
He will still be there unless he has a monster of a combine
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Feb 12, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I like him, but not as a 1st rounder, and not as a igh2nd either. He will most likely go in the 3rd.
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong!
My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch!
Once you start agreeing with TDSH, you know that you're wrong.
I agree, but if he has a great combine, he can help rehab his draft stock
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Feb 13, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Panthers
I like Kirkpatrick in the 1st but i HATE Quick in the 2nd. I wouldnt take Quick until at least the 4th. we dont need a WR and Quick is way to slow and played against poor competition.
I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was
Don't see the point in the Giants drafting a guard
first two rounds are real good tho
Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows
Unless they think Kelemete can play RT, I agree with you. And to his credit, I think Kelemete given some coaching up
probably could. I’d rather have Brandon Taylor there…need to groom an athletic safety to take over for Rolle after this year.
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 12, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
a perfect first two rounds though.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 12, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Kelemete got measured at the Senior Bowl
6-3 300, arms under 33 in. He’s not playing tackle in the NFL, much less for the Giants. With his left tackle experience, I suppose he would be a good pass blocker at left guard. But he’s small for what we normally prefer.
I was in the guard camp until I looked at our finances. I can’t imagine using an early pick there now, though, unless it really helps the run game, and that is not Kelemete.
My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.
2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA
damn....I did not notice his arm length. you're probably right
"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle
by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 13, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Bills
Really like it. I think Coples could be a star with the right leadership, Toon with Stevie would be be a great 1-2 punch. And I’m a big fan of McCants as a future LT.
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agreed
Like this draft only with Stephen Hill i like more than Toon (also think he will go in the 2nd after combine)
"Hardwork beats talent when talent fails to work hard" -Norm Nixon
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." -Confucius
another ilb for the cowboys?
no thanks weve taken one in the second round each of the last two years, bruce carter and sean lee are the future at that position, they just need to sign a vet backup to take the load of carter in case he struggles in his first real season next year
Demarcus Ware- making Sheli Manning piss his pants since 2005
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Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Steelers
Great first two rounds. Terrible 3rd round pick.
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i wanna be a dick and say
the giants picks are pathetic. but i cant.
World Series attitude, champagne bottle life, nothing every changes so tonight is like tomorrow night.
Cowboys ideal picks from this mock.
Round 1 – Melvin Ingram – I just prefer him to Brockers
Round 2 – Mark Barron – We would sprint to the podium with this pick. We love injury-discounted players and need a safety in the worst way
Round 3 – Kendall Reye – We could go guard there but I would rather just carpetbomb our defense and add real players at every level of the defense
If I had a nickel for every Super Bowl the Eagles have won, I would have zero nickels.
I am fine with the first pick in this draft but i hate round 2 and 3.
I would redraft it as:
1. Decastro, G, Stanford
2. Dont’a Hightower, SILB, Alabama
3. George Iloka, S, Boise St or Antonio Allen, S, South Carolina
I like Konz
but I wouldn’t trade up for him. Waldon is a little shaky in blitz pickup but he just finished his second year in the NFL, so I wouldn’t call it a dire need. I’d much rather keep that 3rd rounder and sit back at 25 where Dennard, Cox, and some other talented kids are waiting at positions of greater need
C'mon, join us, there's plenty of koolaid on the Broncos bandwagon for everyone!
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cowboys
your crazy.. the cowboys biggest weakness is their secondary ..they will not pass on janoris jenkins in the first, or mark barron in the second ..you didn’t address the secondary at all
Monty Werner
by manturk11 on Feb 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST via Android app reply actions
You also have a bad talent evaluator at GM
No one can predict what Jerruh is going to do
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I'm down wit JPP
Yea you know me
Win Ugly.
-Eli Manning for MVP
Actually Jerruh is extremely predictable
He always goes for the highest profile guy on the board
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Feb 13, 2012 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
Bad talent evaluator?
I hate the Cowboys but come on. Objectivity is a must for a site like this
by The Cole Train on Feb 13, 2012 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
The Cowboys are one of the most talented teams in the league
“bad talent evaluator” is way off
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 13, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
..they will not pass on janoris jenkins in the first
On my last mock a Cowboys fan tells me Cowboys won’t pass on Brockers if he is there. Please decide amongst the fanbase who will and won’t be passed on.
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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 13, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Jaguars
I like the trade back, but I’d take Sanu or Konz in the second, but likely Sanu. Curry is a great pick in the second. I like Osemele, but I think Lamar Miller has tremendous value. In the third I’d stick with Josh Norman and I hope Egnew was around in the fourth.
The following draft would have me very happy.
1) Mohammed Sanu
2) Vinny Curry
2) Lamar Miller
3) Josh Norman
4) Michael Egnew
1)Ingram >> Sanu and Konz
2)Needing a WR, I went with the top guy I had available in the second. I REALLY like Curry but he just did not make a ton of sense(unless Mincey is not brought back and no major FA is brought in)
3)Lamar Miller does not present better value for the Jaguars than Osemele, who is a massive o-lineman who can play G or even perhaps be a RT at the next level.
"The dictionary is the only place that success comes before work. Hard work is the price we must pay for success. I think you can accomplish anything if you're willing to pay the price." -Vince Lombardi
Twitter: @JWGreenbaum
by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 13, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Ravens
Love the picks. Excellent picks which fit needs as well. Would be thrilled with this draft.
On Ed Reed:
"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
"We all learn from each other, but we all learn most from him."
- Troy Polamalu
Vikings
1st. Kalil. Awesome
2nd. I like Worthy and we need a NT, but Zach Brown is BPA. I would take Brown or Minnifield (if the knee checks out) over Worthy here.
3rd. Not a fan of Hill this early, or any WR really. If I went Brown in 2 then I probably would take a CB here, Casey Hayward for example. If I went with Minnifield in the 2nd then I would probably look at LB, NT or Safety in the 3rd, Bradham, Reyes or Iloka, respectively.
"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen
Jags
I like the trade back. I like Ingram, Criner, and Norman but I’m not really sold on Osemele, It would be a good pick if he can play RT but from what I have heard, he will have to move inside to be effective in the league.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 13, 2012 4:37 PM EST reply actions
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