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2012 NFL Mock Draft: Valentine's Day Edition

The 2012 NFL Combine is just one week away and well after a month since the 2011 regular season ended we're starting to get a good feel for the draft stock of most prospects.

So now feels like a good time to debut my second mock draft of the year, this time featuring trades. The average first round of the NFL Draft has about four to eight trades so it seems unrealistic to ignore them, although it's borderline impossible to actually accurately predict them.

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2012 NFL Mock Draft (2-14-12)

Pick Team Player Pos. School
1 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/IndianapolisColtsLogo.gif Indianapolis Colts
Andrew Luck
QB Stanford
2 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/St.%20LouisRamsLogo.gif St. Louis Rams
Matt Kalil
OT USC
TRADE: Seahawks trade 1st round (12th overall), 3rd round, 7th round picks and 2013 1st round
pick to Vikings for their 1st round (3rd overall) and 4th round picks.
3 http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/63733185/Seattle-Seahawks-Logo_normal.jpg Seattle Seahawks (from Minnesota) Robert Griffin III
QB Baylor
4 http://cdn3.sbnation.com/profile_images/588758/cleveland-browns-alternate-logo-5-primary_small.jpg Cleveland Browns Riley Reiff
OT Iowa
5 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/buccaneers_50t.png Tampa Bay Buccaneers Morris Claiborne CB LSU
6 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/redskins_50t.png Washington Redskins Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M
TRADE: Bills trade 1st round (10th overall) and 2nd round picks to Jaguars for their 1st round
(7th overall) pick.
7 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/bills_50t.png Buffalo Bills (from Jacksonville)
Quinton Coples DE North Carolina
8 http://images.wikia.com/openserving/sports/images/thumb/4/45/Panthers_logo_small.gif/50px-Panthers_logo_small.gif Carolina Panthers Devon Still DT Penn State
9 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/MiamiDolphinsLogo.gif Miami Dolphins Trent Richardson RB Alabama
10 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/JacksonvilleJaguarsLogo.gif Jacksonville Jaguars (from Buffalo)
Kendall Wright WR Baylor
TRADE: 49ers trade 1st round (30th overall), 3rd round picks and 2013 1st round and 6th round
picks to the Chiefs for their 1st round (11th overall) pick.
11 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/49ers_50t.png San Francisco 49ers (from Kansas City)
Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State
12 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_bZc3WJ4qQ6A/S3D3gNx6vHI/AAAAAAAAAAk/jFMupVTLdgU/S45/380px-Madden_NFL_09_Vikings_Logo_Large.png Minnesota Vikings (from Seattle) Jonathan Martin OT Stanford
13 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/cardinals_50t.png Arizona Cardinals David DeCastro
G Stanford
14 http://www.mockdrafthq.com/images/team/cowboysb_logo.gif Dallas Cowboys Dre Kirkpatrick
CB Alabama
15 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/eagles_50t.png Philadelphia Eagles Luke Kuechly LB Boston College
16 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/jets_50t.png New York Jets Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama
17 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/CincinnatiBengalsLogo.gif Cincinnati Bengals Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama
18 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/chargers_50t.png San Diego Chargers Michael Floyd
WR Notre Dame
19 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/bears_50t.png Chicago Bears Whitney Mercilus DE Illinois
20 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/TennesseeTitansLogo.gif Tennessee Titans Peter Konz C Wisconsin
21 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/CincinnatiBengalsLogo.gif Cincinnati Bengals Cordy Glenn G Georgia
TRADE: Packers trade 1st round (28th overall) and 2013 2nd round picks to Browns for their 1st
round pick (22nd overall).
22 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/Green%20BayPackersLogo.gif Green Bay Packers (from Cleveland) Nick Perry OLB USC
23 http://static.spiceworks.com/images/users/0013/4602/_p_new_lions_logo_medium.png?1326916105 Detroit Lions Mike Adams OT Ohio State
24 http://www.sportsbarsupplies.com/images/logos/nfl/PittsburghSteelersLogo.gif Pittsburgh Steelers Michael Brockers DE LSU
25 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/broncos_50t.png Denver Broncos Melvin Ingram OLB South Carolina
26 http://images.wikia.com/openserving/sports/images/thumb/e/ec/Texans_logo_small.gif/50px-Texans_logo_small.gif Houston Texans Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington
27 http://richgray.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/patriots-logo.jpg?w=50&h=50 New England Patriots Fletcher Cox DE Mississippi State
28 http://cdn3.sbnation.com/profile_images/588758/cleveland-browns-alternate-logo-5-primary_small.jpg Cleveland Browns (from Green Bay) Mark Barron S Alabama
29 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/ravens_50t.png Baltimore Ravens Kelechi Osemele G Iowa State
30 http://i.usatoday.net/_common/_images/_sports/logos/nfl/chiefs_50t.png Kansas City Chiefs (from San Francisco) Dontari Poe DT Memphis
31 http://richgray.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/patriots-logo.jpg?w=50&h=50 New England Patriots Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina
32 http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1115339545/giants_logo_small_normal.gif New York Giants Dwayne Allen
TE Clemson

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I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Feb 14, 2012 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

Dwayne Allen to the Giants is getting way too common

you all are jinxing it.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 14, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

Pouncey-to-Giants last year was way too common.

And then we got something awesome in the real thing. They can mock us Allen, we’ll end up with Melvin Ingram or something lol

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

works for me!

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

sanu>jeffrey

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

no thanks, love sanu

he may be one of my favorite players in the draft, but having jeffery and nicks with cruz in the slot would be unstoppable

by BigBlue91 on Feb 14, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

If we're wishing

I’ll take Floyd

My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.

2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA

by ct17 on Feb 14, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

sanu>floyd

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

If we're wishing, I'll take Blackmon.

actually, screw that, give me Matt Kalil.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 17, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

sanu is much more unstoppable and talented than jeffrey.

he can do everything jeffrey can and then a lot more.
sanu is the best reciever in this draft

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 15, 2012 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Lets make a bet, shall we?

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 16, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

ever you say bub

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 17, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

A pass rusher or a WR

Either is fine, it’s been our formula to success so far. And if it aint broke, don’t fix it.

by #56 4life on Feb 14, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

DB also

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldn't mind him either, though he isn't projected to go in the first right now

looking at most mock drafts. He’d definitely be an upgrade over KMac though.

"We will not be denied." - Antrel Rolle

by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 14, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Tynes could do a better job than McKenzie at RT

My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.

2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA

by ct17 on Feb 14, 2012 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

dont disrespect Mckenzie.

e 3 years b4 this he was the best RT in the league.
he got injured, give him a year

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

but its 3 years from then

so no one cares. Kareem’s washed up.

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 15, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

no, it was last year. the year b4, and the year b4, and so on

this was his 1st bad year

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 16, 2012 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

lol..."b4".

Last night, a comedian died in New York. Somebody knows why. Somebody knows

by Rorschach44 on Feb 17, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

he's not even our oldest lineman

Dear fox.... Fire Aikman and buck. they suck
Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
"We’re going to turn this team around 360 degrees." –Jason Kidd
"If you come to a fork in the road, take it" -Yogi Berra
SBXVI Champs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I told YOU ALL... 5 months ago i was the only one who bELIeved, HELL YEA!!!!

by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 16, 2012 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

McKenzie had some great years for us

But last year he was a turnstile. And a $6 million hit on the salary cap.

My QB has 2 rings. Well, 3 if you want to get technical.

2012 NYG mock - 1: Dwayne Allen TE, 2: Brandon Boykin CB/RS, 3: A.J. Jenkins WR, 4: Vick Ballard RB, 5: Neiko Thorpe S, 6: Rishard Matthews WR/RS, 6: Blake DeChristopher G/T, 7: BPA

by ct17 on Feb 15, 2012 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Bills

No doubt Coples is the best 4-3 DE available. The Bills are not going to trade up for him with players like Coples, Brookers, Perry, or Mercilus available later. I could actually see them trading back for someone who say wanted Decastro, and still picking up one of those guys.

by Mr. h on Feb 14, 2012 6:31 PM EST reply actions  

Yea

Just not Nix’s style. He values his picks too much to give up a 2nd just to move up 3 spots. In his two drafts with the Bills he has a combined time on the clock for his first round picks of like 6 seconds. Defiantly not the type of guy who is going to do a lot of trading.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree bigtime on that!!!!

Buddy and Chan won’t trade up but they made trade down if no one picks Blackmon, Richardson or Krikpatrick in the first five to seven teams to pick. So I see Dallas, San Diego, Baltimore, Green Bay and maybe New England(maybe) wanting to trade up with us for their 2nd or 3rd round picks and possibly a pick from 2013 to add to the mix. But we won’t trade up that’s crazy to even think or write that. lol

by KHWALA72 on Feb 15, 2012 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. There is no way that trade happens. And there shouldn’t be. The Bills will get a fine player at #10. The only two players worth trading up for are Luck and Griffin.

by PineWoodsBillsFan on Feb 15, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Steelers

The last thing we need is another DE. Poe would be a much better pick.

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by Riddlah. on Feb 14, 2012 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Seahawks

I like the trade but am very skeptical that the FO would do it.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 14, 2012 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

"If the right guy is there," to paraphrase what Carroll said.

If one or two of Cleveland, Washington or Miami aren’t pursuing a trade, that trade looks fair & makes sense, and I don’t think it’s beyond them to do it. It also assumes Seattle will pick 12th; 50-50 chance they get 11th instead.

But I’m expecting one of them to also look to trade up, and that probably seals it for Seattle. I’m basing this on the notion that Manning goes to a new team, which paired with Flynn eliminates two teams. But since Oakland is not far behind Miami as a landing spot for Flynn, there could still be two others in front of us.

Of course Washington could like Tannehill. But best-case scenario is we’d be competing against one other interested party.

Head of catering.

by jacobstevens on Feb 15, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Panthers

I don’t realy like it…. I wouldn’t mind trading down and getting J. Jenkins or just drafting Kirkpatrick

by rscott94 on Feb 14, 2012 7:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

As a Bills fan

I’m trying to figure out the reason to jump ahead of you guys. If Coples is there do the Panthers take him so unquestionably that we would have to jump ahead?

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Feb 14, 2012 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Well obviously

But not being a Panthers fan I am not well briefed on their perceived needs. That was what I was looking for, that and do Panthers fans see Coples as someone they would want on their team. I’ve gotten plenty of Bills fans perspectives would like to get an idea of how others view him. Again thanks for pointing out the obvious though.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Feb 14, 2012 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The majority of Panther fans do not want Coples

We have a good young stable of DEs (the oldest being 26). The vast majority want to either trade back or take a CB (or Blackmon if he happens to fall)

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Feb 14, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

As we need a RDE drafting one early is likely not having to give up a second to get that guy would be great.

Harooo

by Robot Nixon on Feb 14, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind Coples

But I’m not campaigning for him to come here

by rscott94 on Feb 15, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

or take Blackmon

who is available in this mock

I wanna be the very best, like no one ever was

by pcroadrage on Feb 14, 2012 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Dolphins & Jags

Dolphins don’t need a running back at all and I doubt the Jaguars would take Wright over Blackmon.

by jte7 on Feb 14, 2012 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

you are telling a Jaguar fan what the Jags will do? lol

truth be told, I have a gut feeling Kendall Wright might be more likely for the Jaguars even if both were available and Jags were going WR.

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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 14, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

In fairness

Many Jags fans would “doubt” Wright over Blackmon.

by CheapSeat on Feb 15, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

The Problem with our Wide recievers is that they're never wide open and they have trouble receiving the ball...

by TheTealDeal on Feb 15, 2012 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Think that depends on who they go after in free agency

If the Jaguars go out and get someone like Marques Colston then a deep threat #2 makes a lot of sense.

by Adam Stites on Feb 15, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want someone to catch the ball

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

The Problem with our Wide recievers is that they're never wide open and they have trouble receiving the ball...

by TheTealDeal on Feb 14, 2012 9:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the 49ers just will not make that trade

baalke aren’t going to mortgage the future on Justin Blackmon. His ceiling is Calvin Johnson’s floor, and you just don’t make that kind of trade for that kind of player.

by ratumike on Feb 14, 2012 7:51 PM EST reply actions  

baalke and harbaugh

by ratumike on Feb 14, 2012 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I had a 49ers fan talking to me about trading up to 3rd overall to take Blackmon

I knew he was stupid, but it still kind of put the idea in my head. Every year it seems like there’s a team that thinks they’re a player away from being champions.

by Adam Stites on Feb 14, 2012 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The 49ers

are about 3-4 players away from being champions. Even then, that might be generous. We have no depth at alot of positions, and that really poses problems if you want to be legitimate down the stretch, season after season. I mean, look at the G-men. Some of their front-7 personnel go down, they couldn’t stop losing. They get fit, they go on a roll and win it all (and deservedly so). It works on occasion, but that kind of ‘cross-your-fingers’ roster rarely breeds continual post-season threats.

by ratumike on Feb 14, 2012 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

The 49ers already have Justin Blackmon on the team

Except he goes by the name of Michael Crabtree

"SHUT UP MEG!"
- Peter Griffin

by kailuakid9er on Feb 15, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Absolutely no chance they make that trade.

Especially seeing as he doesn’t give them a great redzone target, which they desperately need.

by runningblack on Feb 15, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly...Pioli (IMO) loves to trade down..

I doubt if he would ask for that much..Providing the lineman he wants isn’t there..But 20 spots is a hell of a drop..

by cyberry on Feb 15, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Chiefs

LOVE the trade down for KC… both likely and beneficial.

Poe is an OK choice, but I would prefer OL or TE there

by stagdsp on Feb 14, 2012 7:53 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

its not likely

if anything, you’ll be trying to jump back into the first to pick up a QB so that matt cassel can be resigned to backup where he belongs.

by ratumike on Feb 14, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

it's kinda hard though

to make that kind of trade against a team that has the current Coach and GM of the Year in the same war room.

by ratumike on Feb 14, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

thats a realistic looking trade that I could see scott pioli doing!

chiefs then would go with cassell at QB this year and next year try to package picks for there QB of the future. exactly the kind of trade I could see the chiefs doing.

by kc-twitch on Feb 14, 2012 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

problem is...

you need to other franchise to be stupid. This WR class isn’t as dynamite as everyone would like to make it out to be.Sure, there’s some talent, but let’s not pretend that a Megatron exists anywhere in the 1st, because he doesn’t. There isn’t a WR anywhere in the 1st rd worth making that trade, and the 49ers F.O knows it….

by ratumike on Feb 14, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You dont know they know that.

You hope you think you’re right and they believe you. I could see SF doing that. You win GM of the year because your team plays well. And you won because the guy drafted in 2005 suddenly lived up to his potential and did well.

by 306008 on Feb 16, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Alameda Ta'amu is too much of a reach for the Texans at #26.

He’s not an ideal 3-4 NT. If all those top WRs are gone, the Texans will probably trade back out of the 1st round.

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by FreedomRide on Feb 14, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

Poe?

True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?

by WreckNTexan on Feb 14, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yet most mocks have him there for the Texans in the 2nd round

With Alshon Jeffery still on the board, I could see the Texans going in that direction before trading back

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
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by The Night Owl on Feb 15, 2012 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey correct me if I'm wrong

but Brockers would only be an end in a 3-4 right and on a 4-3 team he would kick to the inside right?

by jlim4 on Feb 14, 2012 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

Correct

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by GreaZzy on Feb 14, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you

keep seeing this one guy mocking him to the Bills and calling him a perfect fit for a 4-3 defense as an end

by jlim4 on Feb 15, 2012 2:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Jenkins and Glenn are pretty much the standard picks for us at this point

And at that point in the draft, I’d pretty much take them. I’m halfway expecting them to be our first two picks this upcoming draft simply because the Bengals are rather transparent about what they’re going to do.

"It’s time people started realizing just how good a player Carlos Dunlap already is, and that starts with the Bengals. They gave him a season-high 58 snaps and what was the result? Carnage on the right side of the Seattle line." -Pro Football Focus

by Doc Scratch on Feb 14, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, I wouldn't be real excited about either pick.

I’d rather they trade up into the early teens to grab DeCastro or Kirkpatrick in this scenario.

by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 15, 2012 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Cowboys fan commenting on what the Eagles would do

Although they need a line backer, I don’t see Andy Reid breaking his trend of never drafting one in the first round. During his tenure, the Eagles have never spent a first round pick on a LB, S, or RB. In my opinion, they’re more likely to take a WR, DT, or OL-these are positions they have drafted in the first round before.

"The tone is business," Garrett said. "Let's get to work. The Giants are going to be at the Meadowlands on Sunday at 4:15. They're an awfully good football team. We have to get ready for them."

by Rohpuri on Feb 14, 2012 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Eagles fan commenting on what the cowboys fan thinks the eagles would do

Normally, I would say that you are absolutely correct. However, Reid’s job is truly on the line for the first time ever this season, so he has a lot riding on it, and will get crushed by the fans/media if he doesn’t take a linebacker and the linebackers underperform again this year. The only way I see him not taking a linebacker is of Jackson does not come back and a premier wr is available, or someone like coples drops. Reid is pretty strange with his drafts, though (26 year old guard in the first last year who many drafts had projected to the eagles….in the third.), and a lot obviously depends on what they do in free agency.

Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rodgers has his neighborhood.

by NorthernEagle on Feb 15, 2012 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

A PAckers trade would be interesting.

Questions: Is Perry better than Ingram? How would Brockers fit as a 3-4 DE, and would he be a better value there?

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by Omaha Sun on Feb 14, 2012 11:30 PM EST reply actions  

Broncos

I dont know a lot about Ingram only what I have read. He is listed as an OLB but because of his size I presume this is being projected for a 3-4 grouping.
Could he translate to being a 4-3 DE and would he be purely a situational pass rusher or could he be an every down DE in the 4-3 grouping the Broncos run and upgrade Ayers?
One concern I do have is reading that he rarely started at College level. The Broncos need that 1st round pick to be a guy who contributes on every down early on in their career.

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by SteveUK on Feb 15, 2012 3:09 AM EST reply actions  

Love the Chiefs trade and the pick

Wouldn’t mind Dwayne Allen there either

Me and Matt Cassel just - you up, dog!

by ChiefWarPaint on Feb 15, 2012 5:53 AM EST reply actions  

Vikings

The Seahawks deal is not enough. First the Vikings will not give up two picks.

Look at what the Giants gave up to get Eli Manning. They gave their 1st & 3rd in 2004 and their 1st & 5th in 2005. And that was just to three spots lower for the Chargers.

If the Seahawks want to come up to #3 from #12 the Vikings will want their 1st and 2nd this year plus their 1st and 4th or 5th next year. There could be players the Vikings would take from the Seahawks too (doubtful but you never know).

by MarkSP18 on Feb 15, 2012 6:08 AM EST reply actions  

For reference, by draft value chart the deal equates to favor the Vikings by ~130 points

or about the equivalent of a 3rd round pick.

3rd overall is not 1st overall. Chargers dropped down to 4th. And the Giants’ ransom was a bit atypical; it’s unreasonable to expect any trade to approximate that one.

Griffin’s pretty lucrative and if he drops to 3rd there may be enough competition that Minnesota can command more than that deal, but that’s a fair deal. What you’re asking for amounts to about what it would take to trade up to 1st overall in a non-Andrew Luck draft. It’s pretty unreasonable to expect that.

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by jacobstevens on Feb 15, 2012 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

mark is right

A 2013 pick doesn’t have the same value as a 2012 pick. I drops to the value of the 32nd pick, or maybe a bit more.

by emeyenburg on Feb 15, 2012 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahhhh, you guys are right. I'm miscalculating. I hate the league's valuation

methodology, of a future pick being worth one round less. It’s pure stupidity. The intrinsic value of the pick doesn’t change. I know that some teams know this, but the market sets the price and when the market’s perception is a future pick is worth one round lower, then it’s traded at the value of one round lower.

I hate it. And have for a while, so that I actually looked up this trade according to my valuation (the 16th pick of a given round) rather than how they do it.

Head of catering.

by jacobstevens on Feb 16, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

if that is all it takes to trade up for RGIII, the Dolphins should easily match the picks and being that we are drafting earlier, our picks are better and we should get the deal

However, I think it will cost more that you project for the pick

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by #1Heatfan on Feb 15, 2012 8:40 AM EST reply actions  

Floyd to SD?

Lose

We need defense first.

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by Buck Melanoma on Feb 15, 2012 9:04 AM EST reply actions  

Browns wtf???

The Browns aren’t going to spend the #4 pick on a right tackle. Also, why would they take Mark Barron at #28 if Alshon Jeffrey is still available?

by Bumblyjack on Feb 15, 2012 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

Wow that was horrible

No way Dolphins draft a RB with their first round pick

by PhinPhan910 on Feb 15, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

Baltimore

Osemele is a horrible pick for the Ravens. RG is position of strength. Jeffery has to be the pick there

by drd23 on Feb 16, 2012 6:43 AM EST reply actions  


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