2 round mock 3.0
by indycolts21 on Feb 15, 2012 9:37 PM EST
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PrintI will be doing trades, I am not using a trade-value chart so I may over-under pay for picks, if so sorry. I will try to make this mock a little interesting.
ROUND 1
1. Indianpolis Colts: Andrew Luck, QB
Pretty obvious
2. St. Louis Rams: Matt Kalil, OT
I think protecting Bradford's blindside for years to come is more important than acquiring an extra 2nd. They need to make sure Bradford has protection.
3. Minnesota Vikings: TRADE to Washington Redskins: Robert Griffin III, QB
Minnesota receives the 2012: 1, 2 and 2013: 2, 4. Good trade for both sides
4. Cleveland Browns: Quinton Coples, DE
You always need pass rushers and getting the top pass rusher in the draft is a smart decision. The WR class is deep and the pass rush class is not. I also think that Coples has a strong showing at the combine
5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Morris Claiborne, CB
Improve that backfield
6. Minnesota Vikings, from WAS: Riley Reiff, OT
Need a good tackle to protect Ponder.
7. Jacksonville Jaguars: TRADE to Chicago Bears: Justin Blackmon, WR
The Jaguars get 2012: 1, 3 2013: 2,4 for the #7. The Jags don't really have a great value in terms of need and players. The Bears are also in dire need for a WR and they can get the top one on the board for not giving up too much.
8. Miami Dolphins: Michael Brockers, DT
This kid can line up opposite Cameron Wake or line up in the interior of the line. The Dolphins get a much needed pass rusher, and is one of the best on the board.
9. Carolina Panthers: Dre Kirkpatrick, CB
Improve that CB spot
10. Buffalo Bills: Melvin Ingram: DE/OLB
Fits system better than Upshaw since the Bills play a 4-3
11. Kansas City Chiefs: David DeCastro, OG
The O-Line is a major need and they get the best lineman on the board.
12. Seattle Seahawks: Nick Perry, OLB/DE
USC match between Carol and Perry. The Seahawks need a primary pass rusher and this man can provide that
13. Arizona Cardinals: TRADE to Cincinnati Bengals: Trent RIchardson
Cardinals get 2012: 1, 3 2013: 3 and give up the 2012: 1, 5 An equal trade for both sides the Bengals get their RB of the future, and this way the Bengals will become one of the best offenses in the league. After this pick they can start to focus more on the D and making that Championship caliber.
14. Dallas Cowboys: Janoris Jenkins, CB
Best CB on the board and this guy has turned his life around.
15. Philadelphia Eagles: TRADE to Detroit Lions: Jonathan Martin, OT
Eagles get 2012: 1, 2 It is surprising that Martin lasted this long. The Lions need to make sure Stafford can stay healthy and the best way to do that is by getting Martin, arguably the 2nd best OT in the draft. For the Eagles, 15 is a little high for an ILB, usually ILBs go in the late 1 or in the 2nd.
16. New York Jets: Courtney Upshaw, OLB
This was a great situation for the Jets. If they don't get Upshaw they would have gotten Martin if not Martin then Upshaw. The Jets would love it if the board fell this way.
17. Arizona Cardinals, from CIN: Mike Adams, OT
They almost got lucky enough to get the man they would have taken at 13 but they another great value at 17.
18. San Diego Chargers: Whitney Mercilus, OLB, DE
the Chargers need more pass rushers and Mercilus could develop into a monster for them
19. Jacksonville Jaguars, from CHI: Michael Floyd, WR
get a good WR and picked up extra picks. I would consider this a good situation so far for the Jags.
20. Tennesse Titans: Peter Konz OC
INterior O-Line is needed
21. Cincinnati Bengals: TRADE to Baltimore Ravens: Luke Kuechly, ILB
Bengals get 2012: 1, 3 2013: 3, 4 The Bengals essentially counter-balance their trade with the Cardinals and get their picks back. There is no tremendous value available to the Bengals here so I see the Ravens trading up. They want Ray's successor and Luke would be a great guy to fill Ray's shoes (of possible).
22. Cleveland Browns: Kendall Wright, WR
Need to create some opportunity for Colt
23. Philadelphia Eagles, from DET: Dont'a Hightower, ILB
They lost Kuechly unforunatey but still put themselves in a position to grab one of the top 3 LBs in the draft. HIghtower is no bum and the Eagles will be happy to get him.
24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Vontaze Burfict, ILB
ILB is a huge need for the Steelers and unfortunately for them Hightower is gone. They do need an ILB and Burfict is certainly a 1st round talent. The Steeler's current group of guys will make Burfict more mature.
25. Denver Broncos: Devon Still, DT
Biggest need for the Broncos is filled
26. Houston Texans: Alshon Jeffrey, WR
The Best WR available on the board
27. New England Patriots: Fletcher Cox, DT
A good choice for Bill and the Pats, improves that front 7
28. Green Bay Packers: Andre Branch, DE
They need someone to rush the passer, they really missed Cullen Jenkins and Branch should be a good fix.
29. Cincinatti Bengals, from BAL: Cordy Glenn OG
Improve the O-Line and make their Offense very respectable.
30. San Francisco 49ers: Mohammad Sanu, WR
Need another WR to help Alex Smith in the passing game.
31. New England Patriots: Mark Barron, SS
It is a question as to why the Pats don't trade out. The reason why is because I think BIll realizes Brady is nearing the end of his career, he has accumulated enough picks to make a solid impact and improvement on his Defense.
32. New York Giants: Dwayne Allen TE
Just the popular pick and it makes sense considering the Giants do not have any elite TE
ROUND 2
1. St. Louis Rams: Chase Minnifield, CB
2. Indianapolis Colts: Kelechi Osemele, OG
3. Minnesota Vikings: Alfonzo Dennard, CB
4. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Zach Brown, OLB
5. Cleveland Browns: Lamar Miller, RB
6. Jacksonville Jaguars: Stephen Gilmore, CB
7. Minnesota Vikings: Nick Toon, WR
8. Carolina Panthers: Brandon Thompson, DT
9. Buffalo Bills: TRADE to Cleveland Browns: Ryan Tannehill, QB
Bills get 2012:3 2013: 1
10. Miami Dolphins: Dontari Poe, NT
11. Seattle Seahawks: Nick Foles, QB
12. Kansas City Chiefs: Zebrie Sanders, OT
13. Dallas Cowboys: Brandon Washington, OG
14. Philadelphia Eagles: Markelle Martin, FS
15. New York Jets: Andrew Datko, OT
16. New England Patriots: Rueben Randle, WR
17.San Diego Chargers: Ronnel Lewis, LB
18. Chicago Bears: Kevin Zeitler, OG
19. Philadelphia Eagles: Tommy Streeter, WR
20. Tennesse Titans: Jayron Hosley, CB
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Leonard Johnson, CB
22. Detroit Lions: Lavonte David, LB
23. Atlanta Falcons: Coby Fleener, TE
24. Pittsburgh Steelers: Alameda Ta'amu, NT
25. Denver Broncos: Josh Norman, CB
26. Houston Texans: Jamell Fleming, CB
27. New Orleans Saints: Bobby Wagner, OLB
28. Green Bay Packers: Vinny Curry, OLB
29. Baltimore Ravens: Stephen Hill, WR
30. San Francisco 49ers: Trumaire Johnson, CB
31. New England Patriots: Billy Winn, DE
32. New York Giants: Juron Criner, WR
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Jags
Love the trade but can almost guarantee Bears fans will hate it. A second and 2 thirds to move up 12 spots in a very deep WR draft is a bit much IMO. I mean Floyd + the picks is definitely preferable in my mind to just Blackmon. But I will not complain seeing as I find this to be a total steal for JAX.
As for the picks:
As of right now, I think Kendall Wright is more likely than Floyd for the Jags. I like both guys and would not be upset with either, but I do happen to prefer Wright and think Gene Smith will as well.
I am a big fan of the Gilmore pick. However, I definitely think Vinny Curry warrants some serious consideration at the pick.
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Lovely trade
just lovely. But, why would the Bears want Blackmon so badly? He has us basically switching WR picks with Chicago and gaining three picks.
Also, I agree about Wright vs. Floyd. I think it depends on what we are looking for. Floyd is much taller. Wright is a bit faster.
My reasoning
Blackmon is definitely the best receiver in this class and is worth a Top 10 pick pending 40 time (I think he will run a 4.5 so…). I think the Bears will want the best possible receiver who can make an impact immediately – Blackmon is easy No.1 on that team. With retaining Forte they can seriously improve everything they have on O through that trade and pick and could become Sb contenders.
Basically I think they will fall in love with Blackmon – his price isn’t tooo steep as well
by indycolts21 on Feb 15, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Floyd/ Wright
Are good too but I think they Blackmon’s appealing in almost every aspect and the Bears will not want that pick to bust
by indycolts21 on Feb 15, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Panthers
not bad, i’d give it a B-
Would really like to trade down in 1st or 2nd to get a 3rd.
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Bengals
Great Job!! I actually like this very much, unfortunately I do not know if they’d be wiling to trade within the division.
Ravens Bengals trade would be to a mutual benefit here
Fantastic Draft! If they came away with Richardson and were able to trade down to get the same player I keep seeing mocked to them at 21, I would be stunned. Great job.
by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 15, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Cardinals
Like the first round scenario. Pick up an extra 3rd round pick this year and next by moving back four spots & still draft a tackle which is by far their most critical need at the moment (QB arguments aside). Could also see them go OLB or WR here.
Agreed
I think most fans are happy when their team is mocked to trade back. If we did trade back to 17, I would be happy with either Mercilus or Adams. Good value their, and both have great potential. One thing I would note: I don’t think Whiz would easily give up his 5th rounder, given his track record of 5th round draft choices, lol.
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A general question about RG-III and trading up
Why is it that like every mock has the Skins trading up for Griffin? It’s WAYY more likely that the Browns do. The Vikings/Rams would also far prefer to do that so they don’t trade down too far and miss their guys. CLE has expressed interest in Griffin, and now has a QB who is a former 3rd rounder and regressed this season and also could have long term concussion issues (McCoy). Plus the Browns have the #22 pick which is better than the Skins’ 2nd rounder.
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Brandon Jennings; Just keep waiting people.
IMO
the redskins will just want to outbid the Browns because Shanahan probably sees his window closing. And the Browns probably don’t want to give away both firsts – they could also get Tannehill later on
by indycolts21 on Feb 15, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
But you are aware that it will take two #1s to get the pick, right?
See the Michael Vick, Eli Manning, and even the Jay Cutler (I know that one’s not really analogous but still…) trades. Stl. and Minn are in for something of a bidding war.
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I would love for the Vikes to be the trade partner.
There’s so many holes on that defense. Our main need is OT and if STL keeps Kalil then it’d be nice to get more value with the Reiff pick. I don’t like the Toon pick in the 2nd around. I think there’s other ways to go: maybe OG or CB in the 2nd around. Also, the WR class is pretty deep and there’s not much seperation from one player to the next, IMO.
White Horn Gold Pants
I completely agree
& as a Skins & an RGIII fan I would love to see Griffin in B&G but I don’t think he makes it past the Browns. I think that Holmgren tipped his hand when he hired Brad Childress as his OC. I think that Childress’s offensive scheme relies on a dual threat type of QB. He was McNabbs QB coach in Philly & drafted Tarvaris Jackson when he was in Minn. & I think that he was hired with the thought that Robert Griffin III would be his QB.
So where does Favre fit in this theory of yours?
Or Sage Rosenfels?
"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
--Vikings DE Jared Allen
I thought that Favre was brought in to be the last piece for the Vikings to make a run in the Play-offs
not as a long term franchise QB. I didn’t know that Childress had drafted Sage Rosenfels. It’s just my opinion & I actually hope that I am wrong, that Holmgren sticks with his conservative MO & as I said above I hope that RGIII is wearing B&G next year.
The Childress hire doesn't affect the Browns draft strategy IMO
I will not be surpised at all if Childress has a limited role in that organization. He might not even call all the plays.
Favre and Sage were not drafted by Chilly. But he did bring in both QB’s and neither have ever been confused with being a dual threat type. They also brought in Gus Frerotte. The drafting of TJack and Tyler Thigpen does support your theory. I just don’t think that Chilly has that much of a say in what Holmgren wants to accomplish in Cleveland.
"At this point, what we got to lose, right? So we might as well throw caution to the wind and hit people in the face."
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I don't think that Childress will have any say in who the Browns draft.
I think that the Browns have already decided that they are going after RGIII & picked an OC whose scheme fits RGIIIs’ skill set. As I said above tho, I really hope that I am wrong. As a Vikes fan who knows Childress well, if you were going to draft Robert Griffin III who would you want as his OC & would Brad Childress make sense ??
Broncos
I could live with this. I’d be really happy if Still fell to us, so I’m in full agreement on that pick. Don’t know much about Norman, so I can’t comment on him very much, but if Doug Martin were available at that point in the draft I’d love to snag him.
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You're almost correct...
David Wilson would be a better pick.
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Really interesting mock.
Lots of chalk, but the trades make it interesting.
I think you’re overvaluing all the wide receivers. And I don’t believe it’s clear that Blackmon is the best receiver in the class.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 15, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions
The WR and DT/34DE class is deep and there will be lots of value
in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
It is what it is
I completely agree.
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by Agent Jerry Fletcher on Feb 16, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
Pats
You were doing so well with the Pats going for Fletcher Cox. Then you had the Pats go for it at 31 without any trade, and had them take an injury-prone player capable of playing SS and only SS who’s missing the Combine, considered overrated by some, and oh yah plays SS while the Pats already got a decent SS. Pats aren’t going for him.
The Reuban Randle pick is alright by me, as the Pats badly need both talent and youth at WR. I’m not sure if I’d take DT/DE Billy Winn over DT/DE Jared Crick. I consider Crick amongst my mid-to-late 2nd round steals.
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Juron Criner
Interesting pick. I like interesting picks. Although I’d really love to have McNutt since his is available.
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dont understand our 2nd
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 16, 2012 12:28 AM EST reply actions
Seahawks
We need a secondary pass-rusher, not a primary pass-rusher. Chris Clemons has produced double-digit sacks in consecutive years but nobody else is getting to the QB. Perry may be the pick in the 1st but Carroll hasn’t drafted a USC player earlier than the 6th yet and he wouldn’t be the primary pass-rusher.
I think Foles is a big reach in the 2nd but the pick definitely fits a need.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 16, 2012 1:35 AM EST reply actions
Bills
Oooohh…. Interesting.
I have to say, that second round trade definitely brings up an interesting philosophy.
With Matt Barkley and a number of promising QB prospects coming up in the 2013 draft, it might be a good idea to stock up on 1sts in case Fitz doesn’t work out next year and we want to draft a franchise QB.
The only downside is that I don’t know how I feel about the Bills leaving the second round with only Melvin Ingram. But overall I can’t complain about the trade.
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Texans, like Jeffery in the 1st, hate any CB in the 2nd
Texans will not draft any CBs at all when they drafted two last year. With Ta’amu off the board, they’ll go with Josh Chapman to fill the hole at NT
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Ravens
Love the 2nd pick, but hate the trade. I don’t see us giving up those picks to trade up for someone like Kuechly. If we were going to trade up for somebody my guess it would be somebody like Adams or Floyd.
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My mistake
The trade with the Cards was with their 1st 1st and the one with the Ravens was the other one
no actually my mistake i totally forgot that the bengals had the raiders pick
you were correct i was wrong sorry.
Steelers
Great draft. Love both picks.
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I like the 2nd round choice
but I doubt the Steelers will take Burflict unless he fell to the 3rd or 4th round. There will be enough drama in the locker room trying to get Ben and Todd on the same page without taking on a headcase. If they were unable to trade up for Kuechly, I think Glenn or Jeffery would be far more likely at 24 or they would trade down.
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by Cold_Old_Steelers_Fan on Feb 16, 2012 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
49ers probably won't pick Sanu in 1st round
He’s not fast enough and doesn’t separate from press coverage very well. He’ll struggle against NFL-caliber press coverage.
IF they go WR in the 1st round I think it’d be Rueben Randle or they might reach for Stephen Hill.
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Vikings
- will be worth more than two 2nds and a future 4th. But with your scenario I think you missed the mark by selecting Toon in the 2nd. Yes WR is a need, but I expect that to be addressed in FA. The way your board played out you should have given the Vikes Zack Brown and Stephen Gilmore in the 2nd. Maybe Gilmore/Brown and Poe, as the Vikes are rumored to be very interested in Poe.
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This mock is funny, the Vikes will not get the Skins to pay that much for a trade.
A bargain is something you don't need at a price you can't resist....
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Probably Johnathan Martin, which was the guy taken the pick before
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by The Night Owl on Feb 16, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming Hillis doesn’t get re-signed and RG3 goes before four, I like this Browns draft. I think Coples is going to be a beast.
I am assuming Hillis is NOT resigned. IMO, RGIII drops to #4 and the Browns trade him away to either the Skins, Seahawks, Dolphins, or Jets. I would prefer the Skins, since we wouldn’t drop back that far, but the Phins are agood spot also. What would I do with the new spot? WR or DE.
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by ECURam87 on Feb 21, 2012 4:17 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
dolphins
are switching to a 4-3 def so do u think brockers has the speed to play 4-3 de we are set a dt and since we are switching to a 4-3 we wont be able to use poe who is a 3-4 nt i would say OT, S, CB, or TE would be the pick in the 2nd
Dolphins
As Phinatic13 said the fins are switching to a 4-3 and Brockers is a DT in that defense not an end so he wouldn’t fit in. I would of rather had Melvin Ingram or Johnathon Martin. Once again dolphins are switching to a 4-3 so they don’t need a NT. A better pick would be Zebrie Sanders, Coby Fleener, or Brandon Washington. Overall great mock with all the trades and stuff but the picks aren’t right for the Dolphins.
Eagles
Love the Streeter pick, but not Hightower. He doesn’t have the lateral agility to play in a 4-3.
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Jags
I like the trade but hate Flyod, I’d take Wright or Jeffery before him.
by Sylvester.The.Jaguar.fan on Feb 20, 2012 4:19 PM EST reply actions
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