Post-Superbowl Mock Draft.

I really do not like David Wilson..

I agree that we need a RB and if he is the best on your board, then I approve of the pick, but there are a few other guys that I would much rather have. Wilson runs too side to side for me.

Also, please inform me, who is this Shea McClellin fellow you have us grabbing with our third rounder

RIP Nick Adenhart

by miketrout on Feb 6, 2012 7:35 PM EST reply actions

DE/LB from Boise State. Undersized, but athletic and could be a DE/SAM for us.

BPA pick. Really helped his stock at the Senior Bowl.

I have Wilson as the BPA as well. Slightly higher than Doug Martin for running backs.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions

Well there you go, you have a SAM too

but I just see the Giants trying to get faster and faster, and I would assume somebody like Keenan Robinson or Bradham fit the mold of the SAM that they want to switch to.

by GiantNomad on Feb 6, 2012 7:42 PM EST up reply actions

yeah, I would've liked Robinson more, but he didn't fall to us this time.

I really liked what I saw out of Shea recently, so I just went with him. Bradham would work too, I suppose.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 7:48 PM EST up reply actions

I was also thinking Donte Paige-Moss as well. Raw talent, risky prospect...could pay off in spades though

with the right coaching….and the Giants would be the best team for that when it comes to passrushers.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions

Yeah, I think given what we know about the Giants

Paige-Moss is definitely in play. Btw, I didn’t feel the need to comment because it’s almost commonplace now, I do love Dwayne Allen.

by GiantNomad on Feb 6, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions

given the way the D is trending

I don’t see how McLellin fits. It almost was like Kiwi was phased out of the defense the past few weeks, even against the Niners when he should’ve been playing a lot more to stop the run.

Guys like Bradham and Tank Carder are I think were we go with LBeezers.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 6, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions

I like Bradham too...I just liked the pass rush ability of Mclellin more. I can see Bradham too.

And for the record, I thought that was a mistake by Fewell to not play Kiwi. Carder I see as another Blackburn…great instincts, physically limited, no sideline to sideline.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 7:47 PM EST up reply actions

I think if they go McClellin they are looking at pass rush ability

I’m stealing the Wilson pick for my sig, need to get rid of high OL and find room for a TE.

I would not mind Allen. He’d fit us well.

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by ct17 on Feb 7, 2012 12:38 AM EST up reply actions

Changed my mind already

Like Wilson, but I don’t think he falls to us. I’ve adopted Allen instead. He’s got blocking experience, even if it is not necessarily in-line. I’m looking at our opponents, and I see Allen blocking Kerrigan, Spencer, or Babin in the wide9. Some mobility good for blocking those guys.

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by ct17 on Feb 7, 2012 8:30 AM EST up reply actions

You change your picks more than a girl changes clothes

/Katy Perry’d

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions

I don't hate Wilson

But if the Giants draft him, he needs to block/receive well.

I don’t know anything about Shea McClellin, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a DE, but I’d love to see Nigel Bradham (eventual Kiwi replacement) or Harrison Smith in the 3rd.

by GiantNomad on Feb 6, 2012 7:40 PM EST up reply actions

definitely like Smith, probably should go higher than the 4th. I really really like Barron and Taylor at safety....

I have Iloka there mainly for his size, he’s a freak.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 7:51 PM EST up reply actions

OT

but mike trout is gonna be a stud

by P_Roach17 on Feb 6, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions

Given that Doug Martin is still on your board

He’s the RB to take. Ray Rice/MJD potential there.

by Raptor22 on Feb 7, 2012 12:28 PM EST up reply actions

Why on earth would the Bills

draft a guard in rd 2. I can see Corner,OLB,DE,WR,TE,OT,QB,CB before guard for the Bills in that round.

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by mob16151 on Feb 6, 2012 7:43 PM EST reply actions

Zebrie Sanders is a tackle.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions

Zebrie Sanders is bad at tackle

and is likely going to have to move to guard in the NFL.

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by mob16151 on Feb 6, 2012 7:59 PM EST up reply actions

eh, I think he has a chance to be quite successful, and that's the only reason I gave him to you guys.

On my board, he was BPA and filled a need for the Bills.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions

Thats fair

I’d just take Tannehill,Branch,Quick,or Fleener there before Sanders.

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by mob16151 on Feb 6, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions

I hear you. Why Tannehill though? Didn't you guys lock up Fitz?

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions

We did

But the second is perfect for a guy like Tannehill. He could sit and watch for a few years, whilemaking a start here and there, and then step in 14,or 15.

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by mob16151 on Feb 6, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions

true...

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions

And as an added bonus

we can get rid of the godawful Tyler Thigpen as well.

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by mob16151 on Feb 6, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions

lol didn't even realize he was with you guys. I figured he was still lurking with KC or Miami or something

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:12 PM EST up reply actions

Buffalo has Baltimores 4th round draft pick

from the lee evans trade.

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by mob16151 on Feb 6, 2012 11:46 PM EST up reply actions

Sanders may or may not be a tackle...

But I just don’t see him being the pick there, I think Irvin or Tannehill are more likely in that spot. Also if Toon is there in the third, there is no way they pass for a player at a position the coach largely ignores.

by Mr. h on Feb 6, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions

I hear ya

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions

Nice Jets draft

I’d prefer Martin over Jones in the second but good work

Oh yes that's right, I'm a Jets fan.

by Bob_The_Friendly_Baker on Feb 6, 2012 7:53 PM EST reply actions

Jags

before commenting, let me preface by congratulating you on your team’s victory. As a NYer I am kind of happy New England lost, although I do admit I hate both teams and a good portion of the fans I know of each team.

As for the Jags picks:
1)Coples or Reiff are the two guys I think fit best. Right now, I think I still go Reiff, but solid combine and/or pro-day from Coples and he could become the better pick IMO. I was on the Kirkpatrick bandwagon, but I have cooled off regarding him as of late.

2)Gilmore is a very nice pick. EXCELLENT value and he happens to address a need. Other guys I also like are Fleener and a bunch of WRs(some not even in your first 3 rounds)

3)I can’t say the pick is bad, but there are guys who I definitely feel present themselves as better options with the pick. Tommy Streeter and Cam Johnson are the two guys who stand out to me as potentially being better picks for the Jags in the 3rd round.

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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 6, 2012 8:02 PM EST up reply actions

not sure why that was a replly to the Jets comment

I never clicked reply to that post

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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 6, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks mate, appreciate it.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions

Love the draft for Dallas.

Positionally that is pretty much what I would like. Of course perhaps an even better draft would go Ingram, Ben Jones/Dontari Poe, and then Judie or Boykins. Still though, quite good in my opinion.

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by Creasy729 on Feb 6, 2012 7:58 PM EST reply actions

yeah not bad

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by Archie Barberio on Feb 6, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions

solid

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions

Exactly what I was gonna say

Ingram in the first, Poe in the 2nd, Boykin or Norman in the 3rd. Btw where is Norman in the this draft? Good draft BBI

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by CaliCowboysFan92 on Feb 6, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions

Packers

I like the idea of drafting a DE but not two of them, rather take an OLB with one of those picks.

by Yankees10 on Feb 6, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions

oh yeah and congrats on the Super Bowl

by Yankees10 on Feb 6, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks! And yeah, that was a goof by me. Meant to give you an OLB

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions

Solid Eagles draft

Would rather other WRs than McNutt. Toon and Randle for sure but otherwise love the picks good job.

by Mr.electric10 on Feb 6, 2012 8:05 PM EST reply actions

Sounds good, I'll keep it in mind, though another fan (DJax10? I don't remember) said he didn't want Toon

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t like the Foles pick. He doesn’t have a quick release and he has no mobility, those are the 2 things Andy looks for in his QBs.

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by KeepSwinging on Feb 8, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions

McNutt is definitely solid

by ZacharyD on Feb 10, 2012 3:18 PM EST up reply actions

Solid draft for the Giants, don't know much on Shea though.

Wilson might have a case of the east-west syndrome, and idk if I like that. Maybe Massie instead?

by #56 4life on Feb 6, 2012 8:11 PM EST reply actions

wilson can learn to run straight.

didnt bradshaw have the same problem in the beginning

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 6, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions

Vikes draft grade: C-

Matt Kalil—A
Dwight Jones—F
Lavonte David—C-

Should have gone:
Kalil
Stephen Gilmore
Keenan Robinson

Please stop mocking a WR in the 1st or 2nd round!

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by NMVike on Feb 6, 2012 8:11 PM EST reply actions

why not grab a WR? Ponder could use a defense stretching weapon like Jones, who's a first round talent.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions

Several reasons

Mainly I don’t agree that Jones is a first round talent, or even top of the 2nd round for that matter. Receivers typically take longer to have an impact on their team than other positions. The Vikings need to address their defense early and often. In fact, after the Kalil pick, I would be happy if the other 9 draft picks were all used on defensive players. I hope the Vikings add a WR in free agency rather than early in the draft.

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by NMVike on Feb 6, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions

I agree

Might want to look a DT in the second as well. All the good ones come off this mock in the second.
But yea we’re looking at up to 30mil in cap space this year. We’ll get a WR and a CB at least.

by emeyenburg on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions

yup, that 2nd round pick might come down to taking the best CB or DT available

Of course depending on what happens in the 1st round.

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by NMVike on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions

Ok thanks for the feed back

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions

No prob BBI

And congrats on your team winning the big one!

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by NMVike on Feb 7, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions

Thanks NM!

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions

dont mind this draft.

like the first pick.
2nd i can live with.
3rd idk about, but i’ll trust ur knowledge.
prefer to get burfict if on board, but thats only if allen isnt available.
im a defensive kinda guy, so i like defensive drafts more than offensive, especially since D is our weakness

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 6, 2012 8:23 PM EST reply actions

We've gone high on defense for quite some time. hunch that we go offense, but who knows

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions

you're probably right.

but id still prefer D.
like allen in the first tho

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions

Ballard and Beckum both tore their ACLs so it looks even more likely now

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions

good chance.

unless someone falls.
id put my money on allen.
well if burfict bllows them away in pre-draft interviews tho, thats a different story

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 12, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions

Panthers

I like Kirkpatrick in the 1st, but not Worthy in the 2nd, would rather get FS Martin

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by pcroadrage on Feb 6, 2012 8:42 PM EST reply actions

Asi Asi Picks for the Bengals I would have gone

DeCastro If He fell to 17 and at 21 Janoris Jenkins and in the 2nd get Brandon Thompson and 3rd get Isaiah Pead

by Touhue Cha on Feb 6, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions

Giants

I know you and Roscharch are down on Burfict, but I think he’ll make Giants dool. Can’t see them passing on him.

Like the Allen pick though I’ve also said a 1,000 times a big fan of Gilmore so I wouldn’t mind that pick either.

Like the Wilson pick

Don’t like the Mclelin pick

Id rather them take a player like Furman CB Ryan Steed, or a WR like Ryan Broyles there (if healthy) maybe Chris Givens

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions

what about Burfict will make the Giants drool?

is it his uncontrollable temperament? Or is it his flat out ignorance?

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 6, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions

His terrific length, his athletic ability, his plus production at a major BCS School.

You know who else was considered ignorant and stupid before the Giants drafted them?

Jason Pierre Paul and Mario Manningham

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions

he's not as good an athlete as made out to be

and his production is well, well below subpar for a major BCS school.

Manningham produced like a #1 WR and was a 3rd round pick. JPP isn’t stupid either, that’s a real stupid thing to say. He just was inexperienced.

Burfict is dumb. And he’s got way too many screws loose.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 6, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions

JPP had a reputation of being stupid. He had a low wonderlic score.

That’s what I was referring too.

Burfict has long arms, he’s athletic, he plays a position of need, he can rush the quarterback, and he has a lot of upside.

LIke it or not I think he will intrigue the Giants.

And I didn’t know you knew Burfict personally….

Because if you don’t the interview the Giants will conduct and not you or me will decide whether or not they think he has screws loose. You or I don’t know that, they will do their due diligence and if checks out Burfict is a real possibility for the Giants if he’s available.

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions

wonderlic has nothing to do with overall intelligence

its just a BS football test.

Burfict has long arms yay, he’s not athletic, we don’t need a LB, if he can rush the passer he sure hasn’t done it on Saturdays. I don’t know Burfict at all, but you can’t tell me one way, other then making stuff up or using his high school stats, that he does one thing teh GIants want out of a player.

In fact, he’s the type of player that’s not even on their draft board like Sean Weatherspoon.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 6, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions

He has 5 sacks this year

from the MLB spot.

So Im not sure which games you were watching

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 7, 2012 6:49 PM EST up reply actions

ur wrong about one thing, he may be dumb.

but he is the kind of player the giants draft.
just cause u dont like him doesnt mean the giants are interested.
if he’s available @ 32. the giants will take a long and hard look at him. and he very well may be wearing blue next year.

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:05 PM EST up reply actions

Thank you

That’s all I was was saying.

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 7, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions

there's nothing about Burfict that matches their picks in the past

unless he’s a 3rd or 4th rounder that is.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 8, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions

you're almost right.

but the one thing that matches what they love is that the giants like, absolutley love a pottential steal.
and with burfict being the most physically gifted LB in the draft (their kinda player) they will have him high on the board.
if he passes the pre-draft interviews and is still on the board.
i think it will be between him and allen

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 12, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions

and JPP's character and desire on the football field was unquestioned

it was also why we drafted him cuz we knew he’d reach his potential given how hard he worked. He was raw, but he plays like an undersized white dude.

Burfict is lazy, dumb and hurts his team more then he helps it. I dunno why you’re even suggesting he’s a possibility.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 6, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions

Just because he couldn't speak English doesn't mean he;s dumb

by #56 4life on Feb 7, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions

Reason I don't like Vontaze is because he is exactly who the Giants don't look for in the first round.

Is he gifted athletically? I wouldn’t be surprised if he blew up the combine….but that’s only one part of the puzzle. He has almost no concept of gap control, has terrible tackling technique (launches himself instead of wrapping up most of the time) and if his disciplinary issue was him being too aggressive, I wouldn’t have a problem. There are reports everywhere about him dogging it in practice, giving up on plays, fighting with coaches. We DO look at character as well when drafting 1st round picks.

Ross, Phillips, Nicks, Pierre-Paul, and Amukamara had no character red flags at all. Pierre-Paul was actually the opposite: http://www.sports-central.org/sports/2011/11/19/the_next_big_thing.php

Sustaining a neck injury during a game and immobilized on a gurney, he was rushed by ambulance to a hospital. Reappearing in the second half with a doctor’s note and “put me back in” pleas, he returned to the field breaking two fingers and collecting three sacks in the process. After winning the game, his dumbfounded coach commented “amazing” as little more than what others were already thinking.

The dude was carried out on a hospital stretcher in the 1st half, and then came back in the 2nd, broke fingers and got sacks. That’s the type of aggression we’re looking for.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions

We'll see

I just think it’s silly to rule out Burfict like Roscharch seems to dismiss the possibility the of the Giants entertaining that pick.

And those things you mentioned: gap control, tackling technique can be taught by coaching

I would not be surprised at all if the Giants ended up selecting vontaze Burfict and at the end of round one, It’s not a really big risk. I strongly disliked the thought when the Giants were heading towards the 15th pick, but at 32?

Pick looks much better.

But again, he’s not MY ideal choice. I like Stephon Gilmore there, I like Allen there, I like Kendall Wright if available. and I like Mark Barron there too (Fewell even with Buffalo ran a ton of 3 Safety sets and the Giants don’t have a 3 Safety right now). I’d be ok with a RB

I’d love to see Kuechly there. That’d be terrific if he feel because of measurables.

I just think it’s crazy to dismiss Burfcit is my point

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions

Character

Never said JPP had character concerns I said people were making a big deal about his wonderlic. score.

My point is this: Giants fans need to keep an open mind about Burfict because WE are not interveiwing him and spending Hours of background on him. WE don’t know him.

IF he checks out, the Giants may very well draft him if he’s available at 32 overall because his upside is undeniable and the Giants have a stable locker room and great leadership, which is a good fit for Burfict

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions

Eh, I'm still firmly against Burfict based on what I've seen of him. Agree to disagree I suppose.

If we draft him, I will assume Jerry did his homework and I’d be OK with it. But with mock drafts, you pretend to be the GM and based on JR’s draft tendencies, Burfict doesn’t match up. Reading these confirmed my suspicions:

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/10/21/2503551/vontaze-burfict-first-hand

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2012/1/14/2707736/vontaze-burfict-the-follow-up

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions

how does that first one turn you off Burfict

What snippets turn you off from Burfict this one:

“Tez Has Heart: It is what makes him great, and terrible, if he can harness this, which is what ASU fans have been saying for three years, he can be unstoppable. Now he has developed a bad reputation, and he gets flags now, for very very questionable calls. Ill show some examples of that on the tape. "

Or

this one (from the negatives)

“His size and speed combo lead to huge hits every time he connects with someone, his form tackles are harder than 99% of players kill shots, he doesn’t need to go for those. With proper coaching, this could be corrected. I think this year he is thinking to much about, no penalties, be disciplined, what everyone is saying, his draft stock, and it shows on the field. If a coach can get to him and get him to play the way he can, and be disciplined, tackle with form, try not to hit anyone on the sidelines, he can a special player at the next level.”

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions

I like Burfict

Because I think most of his issues are correctable with good coaching and leadership.

I think the Giants have good coaching. I think Burfict is terriible fit with an undisciplined team like the Lions, but on the Giants Burfict might be special and I’m willing to take that risk

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions

That first one was from the very beginning of the year. My point was to show how it changed as the year progressed.

Seems like Jeremy Shockey 2.0. Supremely talented, but a potential cancer. I’m not willing to risk a 1st round pick + locker room chemistry for a position that isn’t even highlighted in our defense anyway.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions

fair enough

still not my ideal pick, but one I wouldn’t be against at 32 overall

What do you think of Barron

Grant is old and Sash might not be able to handle coverage responsibilities and Fewell has used a ton of 3 Safety sets even when in Buffalo, I think Barron could play a with the Giants

The safety depth scares me for the Giants. One injury to Rolle or Phillips and this team is in CC Brown situation again.

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 11:17 PM EST up reply actions

I have a man crush on Barron.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions

me too

that might be my absolute ideal pick, just not sure he’ll be available.

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 6, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions

no one player could ruin the chemistry of this team.

if any one player thought he wasnt a fit when he got in that locker room tuck would have “a little talk with him” and he’d change or be shipped off to sme place that likes cancers like the jets, philly, dallas, steelers. id say only the steelers would handle him if we couldnt

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:18 PM EST up reply actions

Tiki Barber and Jeremy Shockey both ruined the Giants locker room.

Santonio Holmes this year…look at what happened to the Jets’ locker room. One bad apple can infect others.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions

not when leadership is strong

It’s much easier to fall in line with a two time superbowl winning coach and quarterback who is in his prime

Than a QB who spends more time in GQ then in the Superbowl!

Shockey and Tiki were the leaders then.

Burfict wouldn’t derail this locker room in my opinion

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by Jesse Bartolis on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 PM EST up reply actions

I suppose, but I'm still standing firm that his ass won't contribute anything to the team either

and I’m not willing to take that chance, especially with our first rounder. We have plenty of other options like you said, and I’d be willing to roll with any of them over him.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions

as jesse said.

the leaders were strahan and tiki back then.
the problems in the locker room were with one of the leaders (tiki) and someone who while i did absolutley love, i think is probably addicted to cocaine (shockey).

burfict, their is no chance he ruins this teams chemistry.
he will be learning with a whole group of young guys.

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 12, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions

There's no point in having him if he won't produce. And if he plays like a douche

like he has been this past year…where, you know…he was demoted to the BENCH….then we won’t draft him in any round, let alone the 1st.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 12, 2012 2:14 PM EST up reply actions

we wont draft him if thats how he will be

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions

Good sig

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by dbcouver on Feb 6, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions

BGN is more of a free-rome than information type place.

i’d only count their actual posts from writers as viable.
their mods are knowledgable.
not really their fan posters

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:16 PM EST up reply actions

wow I actually agree

if BBi thinks I’m gonna read a BGOTA article he’s nuts.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 8, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions

kuechly

as a BC student/Giants fan i would cry tears of joy if he fell to us…not the fastest or most athletic player but his instincts are the best i have seen in a while…also he always is in position to make a play

by bistroburrito on Feb 7, 2012 1:40 AM EST up reply actions

id say a Healthy Herzlich> a 1st round pick on Kuechly

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions

Herzlich will never be his former self

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 8, 2012 8:22 AM EST up reply actions

no.

but even 3/4 of thhat id take oer any LB in this draft

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 12, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions

but the thing is, the giants have maybe the best caoching staff in the league

they got by with UDFA as starting LBs.
if, and thats a Huge IF he passes their interviews, he will shoot up their board.
the giants can teach him how to do that stuff, they can teach him to read a QB, to know which gap is his, and where he needs to be.
If he’s their, it may very well be between him and allen.
the man is just a pure athelete, and can keep up with any TE in the league, a guy that can cover TEs is what the giants need.
his pass rushing ability is irrelivent since we dont blitz that much, but his covering annd tackling skills are superb.
if the giants take him, that means his character can be controlled, and they will make a project outta him, he doesnt even need to be ready year one

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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions

If you want an LB that can cover TE's, the one to draft is Zach Brown.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions

he's not as gifted physically as burfict. not near

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 12, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions

lolwut?

Brown is as physically gifted, if not more, than Burfict….with none of the idiocy.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 12, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions

disagree.

brown is talented.
but your forgetting ow gifted burfict is.
everyones worrying about 1 season

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 5:44 PM EST up reply actions

or his pure athletisism

you can control a mans temper (Jacobs), you can teach a man to play the game (JPP),
but you cant teach a man to be one of the best athelets on the field

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions

LBs need to play with their brains first

a RB needs to run angry and a DE needs to play angry. A LB out of control can cost you games, like Burfict’s done repeatedly at ASU.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 8, 2012 8:23 AM EST up reply actions

and the giants dont draft him if they dont think he will change.

so if they get him, its he steal of the draft

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 12, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions

I won't have a problem if they DO draft him....but based on what is now overwhelming evidence on tape

and accounts from multiple scouts…..I don’t think they do draft. At all.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 12, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions

we shall see.

if hes available and they dont draft him, i expect him to be a bust.
if they do, a star

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 14, 2012 5:45 PM EST up reply actions

i agree with broyles especially if ham doesnt resign

also BBI whats your thought on if ham doesnt resign do u see the giants taking a player like kendall wright in the first if he falls?

by BigBlue91 on Feb 6, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions

I like Wright, though I ain't buying him as a top 20 player.

I’d certainly give him a long look. Has a skillset to stretch the defense vertically and has real good hands, and that’s what we need.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions

i wouldnt mind looking at him

by BigBlue91 on Feb 7, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions

Neither would I

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:12 PM EST up reply actions

Good Texans draft.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.

by Joe25 on Feb 6, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions

Id take it in a second

Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!

by theSpaceCityKid on Feb 7, 2012 12:37 PM EST up reply actions

nice!

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions

I like RGIII to the Redskins & I think the compensation is about right.....

Massie in the 3rd is also a good pick as our offensive line is really offensive. I think that RGIII ends up in Cleveland tho…. Congrats on winning the SB, enjoy it!!

by ENsDad27 on Feb 6, 2012 10:06 PM EST reply actions

Thanks ENs!

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions

Rams

Love the first 2 rounds. in round 3 I might go for Lavonte David (Yes i know we took Zach Brown) or Josh Robinson. Maybe even Lucas Nix.

by zachmann21 on Feb 6, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions

I hesitated on giving you guys Lavonte for that exact reason. Brown can play all 3 LB spots, but is probably best suited to WILL

and given Lavonte’s size…he probably can only play WILL

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions

Bengals

Don’t think we take a RB in round 1 unless it’s Richardson. There are too many other options in round 2 and 3. Like 2nd and 3rd round picks but not a fan of the fisrt round

by biggie22 on Feb 6, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions

gotcha

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions

I have a feeling they'll pass on Jenkins if he's there too

The whole Adam Jones thing hasn’t really worked out in their favor, and I don’t think they’ll be looking for his clone in the draft (that’s really more of a gut call than anything else).

Zeitler and Forston were good picks. Even though I like Miller, Marvin Lewis has a thing for workhorse backs so I think he’ll target Martin and Polk in the second.

by Animal_Like_Football on Feb 7, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions

I like the niners picks

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by manraj7 on Feb 6, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions

solid

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions

Jets

Love the first two picks. So much so that I wouldn’t give a damn what happens after that. But Weeden in the 3rd? Meh. Gimme Adcock and we can start planning a follow parade down the Cannon of Heroes.

by Crackback on Feb 6, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions

figured Sanchez could use a bit of competition? I think Weeden is ultratalented.

Adcock also seems like a decent pick…didnt think of that one.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions

Kuechly OLB?

Like how the Board fell, Kuechly is the common pick in the first (for good reason), if the board looked as it did in the second round though Andy Reid would get all gushy over the DLinemen left on the board (Crick, Ta’amu) those would probably be the picks also considering the amount of good WR that were still left. The 3rd round has a large pool of players left the the Eagles would Love at that point:
Nick Foles, QB
Nick Toon, WR
Reuben Randle, WR
Coryell Judie, CB
Keenan Robinson, OLB
Chris Polk, RB
Can’t we just get all of them?

by EagleEyes on Feb 6, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions

my bad, typo there

In any case….you could get a boatload of those players if you traded down your 1st round pick :)

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions

sure.

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Desean Jackson IS a punk....................UNLEASH Eli
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:20 PM EST up reply actions

I could see us using all 4 picks to an advantage

Joe Adams would have to actually, you know, be able to catch the ball, to differentiate himself from the other receivers on our team. His speed is really all we need when we address the WR this year. It would be huge if Sam had enough time to actually put the ball where our WRs can catch it, since obviously, their hands must be the wrong place to put it. Maybe he can just lob it right down their throats.

Anyhoo I think I’m liking Reiff more than Martin but Martin is probably more ready to help with our run blocking, too. Cox is great and Brown? Well hell yeah!

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by dbcouver on Feb 6, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions

BTW do you keep up with the team needs yourself or get them some where

I’m thinkin I want to put up a post. But asking sounds kind of cheesy.

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by dbcouver on Feb 6, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions

haha, I keep up with them myself. I gather up all the comments from everybody lol

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:25 PM EST up reply actions

Haha jokes on you bitches! Now you have the worst pick in the draft!! lololol

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by Djax10 on Feb 6, 2012 11:14 PM EST reply actions

everyone wants the #32 of that year

you’d know this if you had it.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 6, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions

Of course you do, I was joking

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by Djax10 on Feb 7, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions

#32 in the worst depthed draft in years at a lot of positions.

i’ll take it.
parade was fun today.
did u happen 2 catch in on tv?

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:21 PM EST up reply actions

Vinny Curry

Interesting….

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 6, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions

yes? no? maybe?

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions

Can never have enough pass rushers. And with the way your first round plays out, he is the best player available in my mind. Good to see someone other than Burfict for a change.

Pairing Curry with Suggs and Kruger could be deadly.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 6, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions

Agreed. I still want Burfict, but this is a solid pick that hasn’t been really mocked to us that realistically could actually happen. Don’t really have a problem with any of the picks. Ideally my draft would be Burfict, Quick, Kelemete. Even though you have Kelemete listed as OT I think we would use him at G since he does have that ability.

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by AV23 on Feb 7, 2012 7:40 AM EST up reply actions

Talor does interest me a bit at S and couldn’t find too much about him. How are his ball hawking skills and how does he project as a FS?

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"I’ve told him to his face many times, ‘You’re the greatest safety ever to play the game,’"
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by AV23 on Feb 7, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions

I love Taylor. He had good games against 'Bama in both games last year. Including that incredible INT in the first one.

He’s got good range, and while he probably wouldn’t be able to cover a WR one-on-one, he has good vision, good physical attributes (his stock will rise at the combine I think), and is pretty smart. He should be one of those ballhawking safeties at the next level….especially if he learns from Ed Reed.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 9:38 AM EST up reply actions

What's your take on Bernard Pierce?

I am loving the idea of Baltimore taking him in the 3rd round. The guy scored 27 TD’s this season (including 6 against my Terps in UMD)

There aren’t many 6’0" 230 power backs in this draft (if any). Would love him as a back-up for years to come behind Rice.

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by Mr MaLoR on Feb 7, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions

I have Pierce as the 2nd best powerback behind TRich. I think late 3rd is fair value for him as well.

I would think that you’d want to complement Rice with more speed though, no?

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

Rice is a small quick back

makes sense to have a large bruiser back as the compliment/change of pace.

by ZacharyD on Feb 10, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions

Love the Chiefs draft

might need a Tackle at some point in 2014 :)

by Steve_Chiefs on Feb 6, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions

heh. truth

I thought about pre-empting with Adams, but Decastro is just too good.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 6, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions

I like this Chiefs draft but what is your opinion on trying Decastro at tackle?

He appears to have the quickness and strength to play RT.

by Jonathan Hake on Feb 7, 2012 12:09 AM EST up reply actions

I'm sure he could play it....I think alot of his talent would be wasted though....he could be a very good RT

or a dominant guard that’d be able to pull and throw out devastating blocks at the next level.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions

No, No, No for the Titans.

DT is NOT a need, DE is a need. S is a need. OG and C are needs. OLB is a need.
Ok with a Center in the 2nd only cause McNutt is gone.
CB is NOT a need unless Finny isnt resigned, so dont mock a CB until that happens.

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by Titans_Firefighter on Feb 7, 2012 12:14 AM EST reply actions

So in the 1st give us Konz or Mark Barron.

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by Titans_Firefighter on Feb 7, 2012 12:15 AM EST up reply actions

gotcha. And I sort of assumed that Finnegan was gone

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions

everything is a need in Ten.

u got ur QB set, ur oline is solid.
and britts coming back.
CJ2K should fare better.
but outside of that, u need players

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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions

Why is Jeffery

not going off the board higher in recent mocks. I am wondering if a record breaking number of WRs are going to be selected in the 1st/2nd. Anyway I think the Chargers will take Alshon Jeffrey at 18, Still would be my 2nd choice. Ronnie Hillman needs to be somewhere in there

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by Foilhat on Feb 7, 2012 2:32 AM EST reply actions

Got ya.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 9:41 AM EST up reply actions

Really interesting Bucs draft

The Claiborne pick is perfect, of course. Osemele is a huge upgrade over Trueblood. Maybe a bit early for a RT, but I think he’s a slipping first round talent and absolutely worth it at that spot. I like Sean Spence a lot too. It might be a hair early for him, but there is no arguing our need at LB and Spence is the best of what’s left by a good bit. I probably would have taken LaMichael James in that spot, but I would not be upset with Spence in the least.

by aakks on Feb 7, 2012 8:00 AM EST reply actions

wanted to give you guys Zach Brown in the 2nd, but STL got there ahead of you, so I looked at your needs and Osemele was BPA regardless haha.

and I felt Spence was tailor made for the Tampa2

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions

Zach Brown would have been excellent

Lavonte David in the third was a near miss too. I think that’s a much better spot for him in the early third than the boilerplate mock him to us in the 2nd, which just seems way too early for my tastes.

by aakks on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions

David is a fringe 1st round "talent" in terms of instincts and playmaking ability...but I don't know if his

body holds up in the NFL….he’s a LB playing in a very large safety’s body. Same deal with Spence. He’s a high 2nd rounder as well….but those concerns will push both of them down a bit

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions

He's too small for 1st or early second

The third round is perfect for players like that, or late second if a team is drafting need. Just my opinion.

by aakks on Feb 7, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions

Falcons:

good draft. It would be hard to pass up one of those top three TEs, esp. when some (Bunting for one) feel Orson Charles could be the best of the three. Mike Martin is a pretty good pick too, although I might have leaned toward Boykin.

Overall good job.

by durst on Feb 7, 2012 9:24 AM EST reply actions

nice. I assumed you guys were franchising Grimes, so I hesitated giving a CB and Martin was BPA

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 9:43 AM EST up reply actions

Pats fan here,

congrats man. The Brady-Manning rivalry is truly renewed.

I’m skeptical about the Pats going for Barron. There’s risk with him, and I question whether BB will want to go for another S that looks so similar to Merriweather. I’d say Michael Brockers, Peter Konz, or Alshon Jeffery but they’re already taken. I like Wright though.

One thing worth mentioning for all you mock-drafters; Pats will only use one of their 1st and one of their 2nd round picks. The other 1st and 2nd will get traded back/down and the Pats will dangle Brian Hoyer as trade bait for either a player or a mid-round pick.

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by Middlesex on Feb 7, 2012 9:53 AM EST reply actions

By the way,

sorry to hear about Beckum. I hope he makes it back. How’s Ballard’s knee?

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by Middlesex on Feb 7, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions

Ballard tore his meniscus...probably will miss the OTAs and maybe some training camp.

Just makes us getting a TE a little more likely

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions

Heh, with the 32nd

you can steal the best TE in the draft before the Colts snag him with 33rd overall. I imagine the Pats will put their 31st out there for teams desperate for a big-time TE that can do it all. TE is the new trend.

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by Middlesex on Feb 7, 2012 10:28 AM EST up reply actions

Appreciate the kind words. I wasn't mocking trades (except RGIII) but yeah, that's probably the case with your 1st rounders.

I figured BB liked Meriweather except for his attitude. Barron is a smarter, higher character Meriweather.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:10 AM EST up reply actions

I'm not so sure,

think he’d rather aim for Markelle Martin, George Iloka, or Harrison Smith somewhere in the 2nd/3rd rounds. Pats got to upgrade their WR corps badly. There’s not going to really be anyone there after Welker who’s not getting younger, and Welker himself is truly a slot-receiver. Branch is looking worn out, the Ocho experiment failed, and after that it’s a bunch of big no-names who haven’t shown much.

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by Middlesex on Feb 7, 2012 10:26 AM EST up reply actions

I hear you. And yessir, which is why I gave you guys Kendall Wright

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

Great Game!

but i think the Pats would Draft sanu if avalable (Wont be cuz i have the weirdest feeling that his combine will make him the 2nd WR taken)
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by Lawrence Taylor The Real LT on Feb 7, 2012 7:25 PM EST up reply actions

Bengals

I actually love these picks…nice work.

by steve henderson on Feb 7, 2012 9:55 AM EST reply actions

thank you

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:11 AM EST up reply actions

Denver

Really would be against the idea of drafting a no. 2 WR in the 1st round. I dont think he would improve the starting roster a great deal.

If Dontari Poe falls that far that would be a nice pick up.

Polk I am still not quite sure on. Does he enough gym/fitness work? Does he find the holes well enough? Was he limited by a poor O line. In the 3rd though wouldnt be too upset with that although would prefer Boykin in that spot with that board.

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by SteveUK on Feb 7, 2012 9:59 AM EST reply actions

I went with the thinking that a Thomas-Jeffrey-Decker combo would be the best in the West...and having a big possession

guy would be a massive boon for Tebow. Jeffrey can use his body and his height to adjust to Tebow throwing on the run. Polk I actually have as a 2nd round talent that fell due to lack of RB need. He’s got a nice balance of power and speed, with moderate burst and could be a good complement to McGahee.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions

I'm not a Jeffrey fan.

Kinda has too much size – you know, around the middle. I’ve also seen rumblings work ethic is a question mark. It’s possible in your scenario, he’s BPA but I’m just not on board. Given your first 24 picks, I’d much sooner go Dwayne Allen (Steve disagrees!) or Chase Minnifield. If I had to take a WR, I kinda like the speed of Kendall Wright. Poe would be great value in the 2nd as, i think would Polk in the 3rd.

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by Since1993 on Feb 7, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions

Understandable

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

Browns Picks:
Blackmon- A
Glenn- C (we have bigger needs this early in the draft and I don’t think Glenn is BPA here)
Burfict- D (we need OLB or DE not ILB)
Johnson- C- (we have bigger needs this early in the draft)

by crazyL80 on Feb 7, 2012 10:36 AM EST reply actions

I think Burfict could play SAM, and I had Glenn's value in the 20's, so I thought he was solid value. Who would you have taken instead?

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions

Cards

Can’t nitpick, only wish you would do 4 rounds so I could see one more Cards pick.

I’ve resigned myself to them taking Adams in the first. I really don’t know how to feel about that.

Massaquoi, have any write-ups on him? Not really familiar.

by KDean75 on Feb 7, 2012 10:55 AM EST reply actions

Massaquoi I can only admit to watching him in one game, but he looked pretty good. Decent size/speed combo, and actually

had a nice swim move that I saw him use once or twice. I think he can be successful in the 3-4 as a pass rusher.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions

Lions draft is pretty solid. I like it

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by JazzyBBP on Feb 7, 2012 12:16 PM EST reply actions

sweeet

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions

The NFL owners should have a meeting

Look at this draft, pass it around, and just say “Ok.” Instead of screwing it up later.

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by theSpaceCityKid on Feb 7, 2012 12:44 PM EST reply actions

Ruins the strategy.

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by manraj7 on Feb 7, 2012 2:07 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions

I'll take it!

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions

congrats bb on a well deserved win

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by tinley24 on Feb 7, 2012 3:09 PM EST reply actions

appreciate it tinley!

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions

Steeler picks

Solid job. I would be pleased with those selections.

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by Black&GoldTrain on Feb 7, 2012 3:19 PM EST reply actions

appreciate it mate

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions

Not liking it for the Jets

I’d surely grab Richardson if he’s there, but then that leaves OLB, and Chandler Jones doesn’t have the burst or speed to become a 3-4 OLB. Not to mention I think there are plenty of decent QBs later in the draft like Russell Wilson or cousins, so I feel like drafting Weeden in the third is a waste of a pick. I’d much rather hit S if hadn’t done so, with Winston Guy Jr. or perhaps Harrison Smith.

by JetKing55 on Feb 7, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions

That's fair enough. I think of Chandler Jones as Cameron Wake-esque. Not a perfect fit for the 3-4

but natural pass rushing talent. No great burst, but has enough power and agile enough to execute stunts and a few pass rushing moves to be good enough to be a force.

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by BigBlueIntervention on Feb 7, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions

I think this too!

Also going under assumption that Peyton Manning signing with Miami

Knowing absolutely nothing about anyone, I’ll just say I like your format!

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by Willgfass on Feb 7, 2012 11:11 PM EST reply actions

I'm sure all Giants fan would love to get Allen in the first

He has the size and versatility to become a very good player in this league. And we all know that Manning can make a card board cut out pro bowl caliber. Dude has great hands and from the handful of Clenson games I saw he seemed to be a decent blocker too.

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by wangstu13 on Feb 8, 2012 3:44 AM EST reply actions

Jaguars

Good mock draft for us, but we need a WR. If we go WR in the later rounds, then I have no faith in Gene Smith to make Gabbert an elite talent.

by jabrieck15 on Feb 8, 2012 4:34 AM EST reply actions

you do realize Gene likely picks up a big talent at WR in Free Agency

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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 8, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions

you do realize all our of WRs suck and we need more than one...

by Dwalk1217 on Feb 9, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions

you do realize that there is talent on the roster already and not going WR in the early rounds is actually very real possibility if one of two big FAs can be brought in.....

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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 9, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions

**one or two

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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 9, 2012 7:55 PM EST up reply actions

What in your opinion is the difference between Poe and Ta'amu?

I'm getting tired of saying this: Dick LeBeau’s system is so complex very few rookies can make an impact.

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by Steel in FL on Feb 8, 2012 4:22 PM EST reply actions

Seahawks

Don’t like this draft for the Seahawks – doesn’t really address the primary need at all. Carroll stated a desire to improve front 7 speed in his end of year presser. Last year he said he wanted to beef up the oline and spent the first 2 picks on an RT and RG, so he’s not necessarily just blowing smoke.

Really don’t like Floyd b/c he’s not BPA and WR isn’t one of the more pressing needs – we have a #1 in Sidney Rice and I don’t think you take a #2 this early with so many other holes. Don’t like Tannehill b/c he’s not the “point guard” qb Carroll wants – he puts the ball in risky places too often and R2 is QBOTF land. Though I do like James as a back, I think they’d want to find another RB with a similar style to Lynch as a true backup and use Washington as the CoP guy. I’d look for a guy like Polk or Martin here or Ganaway from Baylor in the later rounds.

Given this board (and no trades, though they could certainly trade down in R1 for later picks), I’d expect them to pick something like:

1.12) Ingram DE
2.11) Spence WLB
3.12) Osweiler/Cousins QB

by Senepol on Feb 8, 2012 6:52 PM EST reply actions

Jags = B+

1. Coples = A
2. Gilmore = A-
3. Potter = C, rather have Nick Toon, Rueben Randle or even Cam Johnson, yes a second defensive end.

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by rhettchrystal on Feb 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions

Randle is way overrated and I would hope he is not the 3rd round pick. He disappeared against the better defensive talent(Alabama)

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by Jagsrok9008 on Feb 9, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions

we need to draft a receiver in one of the first three rounds. I like the three guys we got, but the only way I’d take that is if we pick up two very good WRs in FA and I don’t think that is very likely. However, these three players fill positions of need and would improve our team remarkably. It would be nice to see Gene add some more defensive talent so we can be set there for good.

by Dwalk1217 on Feb 9, 2012 7:31 PM EST up reply actions