Colts Mock
by invisibulman on Feb 6, 2012 5:04 PM EST
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With the front office starting to take shape and more information coming out every day about what the team might look like, I'm going to take a shot at mocking the Colts 2012 draft. Fire away with the feedback.
1.) Andrew Luck - QB - Stanford
Easy pick. I do not think Peyton will be back and Luck is the player to lead the team into the next decade.
2.) Dontari Poe - DT - Memphis
At this point the writing is on the wall, the Colts are moving to a 3-4. The centerpiece of a 3-4 is the nose tackle and the Colts clearly don't have anyone on the roster to fill this position. There are some options in FA, but the best of them will be franchised or re-signed. It's also unclear how much cap space we will have. I have Poe ahead of Ta'amu, so that is the pick here.
3.) Leonard Johnson - CB - Iowa St.
Breaking News... the Colts can't cover for sh!t. I think we all agree that the Colts will be selecting a CB at some point. I opted for a guy who is not strictly zone cover as we appear to be moving somewhat away from that mold. Johnson should be a day-1 starter across from Powers.
4.) Joe Adams - WR - Arkansas
Very hot stock right now on Adams, so he might not last this long. If he does, I think the Colts grab him. They spent a lot of time chatting with him at the Senior Bowl where he lit it up. I am assuming that Pierre is resigned, but Reggie is not. I could actually see Collie moving outside with Adams in the slot... or vice versa.
5.) Kevin Koger - TE - Michigan
Playing a hunch here, but the Colts talked to a lot of TEs so far. Tamme is a FA and I have to wonder if Dallas might be sent packing as well. I think they would prefer Linthicum, put I doubt he is there in round 5. Koger is a decent all around prospect who should fit the bill.
6.) Tom Compton - OT - South Dakota
We still need help along the OL. I think Saturday might play one more year, but Diem is done. Really we just need warm bodies and Compton looks the type who could play RT or slid inside to Guard depending on where Ijalana ends up.
7.) Sean Cattouse - SS - California
I am actually hoping for a FA pickup to solve the safety problem, but Cattouse would be a solid pick this late. Bullitt is a below average SS even when healthy. We need an enforcer back there al la Bernard Pollard in Baltimore. Cattouse is a big guy who should be able to bring the lumber.
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I keep saying it and I will continue to say it: I don’t like Poe at 34. I don’t know if he can make the adjustment to the NFL from Memphis and I don’t like the idea of throwing a rookie into the fire as the centerpiece of the 3-4. Especially if Minnifield, Dennard, or Barron are available.
You get yourself a nose tackle in free agency, especially since Indy will rotate between the 3-4 and the 4-3
FA NT
Pagano has a history of switching between schemes but Manusky is pretty much 3-4 to the bone. Regardless, we can’t play the 3-4 at all without a NT.
The top FA Nose Tackles are likely to be:
Paul Soliai – Dolphins likely to Franchise him.
Sione Pouha – At 33 he is not the answer for a rebuilding team in a new defense.
Sammie Lee Hill – RFA Lions will tender an offer.
Antonio Garay – Posibility because of the SD connection, but he’s 32.
The rest are either older or less talented than those… If those are my options, I think a 2nd or 3rd round pick is well spent on a young NT.
If we are going to dabble in FA, I could go for a 3-4 DE. I would go for Kendall Langford, Red Bryant or perhaps Cory Redding. Redding seems the most likely as he will be cheapest and played for Pagano last year.
by invisibulman on Feb 6, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt the dolphins franchise Soliai
He will be too expensive.
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by Choose your screen name: on Feb 7, 2012 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I have also heard that the Dolphins may be switching to a 4-3 which could open up Soliai as a possibility. Even so, he will be expensive and we have a lot of unknowns right now from a cap perspective. If we can make it work, I would be very much in favor of bringing him in.
by invisibulman on Feb 7, 2012 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
True about Manusky, but I think the real head of the defense will be Pagano and Manusky was hired because of how meticulous he is in preparation.
I’m not arguing against using a pick on a NT, I just don’t think it’s worth the 34th pick. Getting one in the third is a different story. I just don’t see any of the top NTs as worthy of a first round pick, and that’s how you have to look at that 34th pick.
Umm
Isn’t it the 33rd pick, or am I missing something?
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Since Colts & Rams tied in record....
the pick order flips each day of the draft. Strength of schedule determined who got the day one first pick.
Colts pick first day one, Rams day two, Colts day three.
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Did not know that...
Does it flip-flop each round, or each day?
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Day
I think
Bleedin' Blue for as long as I can remember. Can you believe we get to be fans while our team has the greatest QB of all time?!?!?!
So
We have the 1st pick in the 1st, 4th-7th rounds?
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Yes...
I remembering reading that and I can’t find it right now. I’m looking for confirmation.
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It flops every round
Based on round, not day. Colts have 1st overall in the 1st, 3rd, 5th and 7th rounds.
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I'm not a huge fan of Poe.
If we were going to take a real 34 DT in this draft I’d rather target Alameda Ta’amu in the 4th or Josh Chapman in the 5th. Both guys won’t put up major tackle numbers but will eat up double teams, which is what we need in a true 34 DT, and what we lack currently at 1-tech in our 43 scheme. Both guys have the build and credentials to fill that role.
In Poe’s place I would rather take A) CB Alfonzo Denard if he drops, B) CB Chase Minnifield, or C) WR Mohamed Sanu in the second. If its a CB, then target WR Nick Toon in the 3rd or possible a second CB (ex. Turmaine Johnson). If its Sanu in the second, I’d go with a CB for sure in the 3rd, at which point T.J. would be your best bet (6’2 and 200 with a 4.5 forty) or Jamell Flemming (although he had some academic issues, which didn’t fit the old Colts style).
At that point then take Ta’amu in the 4th and you should have a good partner to pair with Powers and Lacey, an extra receiver to play alongside whichever of Garcon/Wayne is retained and a stout 1-tech/NT for a hybrid 43/34
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NT
I’m not sure what to make of Ta’amu, I’ve seen grades varying widely on him. I think he is long gone by the 4th, the question is whether he would be there in the 3rd. By the end of it all I would not be surprised to see him go late 2nd. That factored heavily in my decision to take Poe. If I thought Ta’amu would be there in the 3rd, I’m right with you on a CB or Sanu at #34.
Denard looked awful at the Senior Bowl, so I’m a little sour on him right now. Minifield fits the part if we stick with a zone coverage scheme. The reason I went for Johnson, was that I have a feeling we may switch to more man coverage.
by invisibulman on Feb 6, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Not a fan of Poe.
If we’re talking true 2-gap nose tackles, then Ta’amu would probably be the best bet.
That’s heartbreaking for me, though, because I really, really like Brandon Thompson out of Clemson. But he’s a bit light to be a 0-tech, 2-gap nose. He’d make one heckuva 4-3 1-tech, and that’s why I identified him. It’s going to take a while to get used to whatever the new philosophies are out of the front office.
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
What little I have seen of the two I actually prefer Ta’amu to Poe, but consensus seems to have Poe slightly ahead. The #34 pick is a little early for either of them, but I am not convinced that either will be there at #65. Missing out on both would really leave us scrambling.
by invisibulman on Feb 7, 2012 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
You know, I *do* have to say this:
I wanted to stay in the spirit of your statement about the Colts moving to a 3-4, so I kept my own post in that vein. But honestly, if a good NT isn’t there in the draft, I don’t see them drafting one just to draft one. And that’s because I don’t see them forcing the change next year if they don’t manage to get the pieces in the draft or in free agency. I see them staying predominantly in the 4-3 due to the personnel currently on the roster unless at minimum a good NT falls into their laps (and to be honest, I think some LB changes would be necessary too. People disagree with me on that, though).
Pagano himself has said that he’s run hybrids with many 4-3 looks for years now, and explicitly talked about personnel being more important than scheme. I don’t think he or anyone else would force a move so quickly, especially if they can’t land a decent NT in this draft. I would hope they’d be willing to put that off for a year rather than saddle the team with a lousy NT.
But, the spirit of this fanpost was to presume that the move was a done deal, so I commented in that vein. That said, I’d think they’d have a short list of acceptable NTs and, if none fall to them, they’d simply choose to not change so rapidly. So much of what I’m saying is presuming that Ta’amu would indeed be available at their pick. If not, I honestly think there’s no use wondering who else they’d pick because I’d bet they’d say “lets look at 2013 for that”.
My 2 cents. I’ll stop there, because it’s equally fun to wonder what other fatty would be available to plug the nose. I gotta admit, after all these years of watching the Colts, it’s a bit weird to be seriously considering who’s a good 0-tech. I’m used to just blowing by those guys in the writeups to look for undersized gap shooters. :D
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Actually, that brings up another point:
What sort of 3-4 front would the current DC run? Would it be a genuine 2-gap type of setup? Or would it be a 1-gap? That actually would affect how they assemble their draft board and evaluate NTs (and how we fans would assemble ours, too).
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Good Points
Many things are still to be worked out, so I went with the certainties. We want to run 3-4 as part of the defensive package in the future. Both Ngata and Garay were 2-gap DTs if I recall. We presently don’t have anyone who can play that part, so we will be looking for someone.
As far as someone “falling” to them, that’s hard to define. I don’t think Poe would be considered a big reach at #34. It also seems likely that he will be there at that pick. Need meets opportunity? Perhaps.
The other option is to wait a round and hope Ta’amu is there at #65. That strikes me as a gamble, but the payoff is whomever else you get with the #34 pick that you could not get at the #65 pick. Next on my list of needs was CB which is a very deep class. The dropoff from #34 to #65 in the CB class was not that significant IMO. Definitely open to debate though.
iffy on Poe also
i really like LB Brown at 34. he is going to be great but if we are going to a 3-4 he might have to move inside. freeney angerer brown conner.
Brackett
I’m really not sure what I think they will do with Brackett. He has a bad contract and is too small for the 3-4. With that said, with so many needs I’m not sure I would spend the energy on replacing him right away. I could see us going with: Freeney – Brackett – Angerer – Hughes as the lineup for this year and worry about ILB next year.
I actually want to see what Hughes can do as a rush LB in a 3-4. He has been an epic bust at DE, but i think this may be a more natural position for him. Don’t know that Conner has the pass rush chops to play that spot.
Hughes
if i recall correctly he was a hybrid end linebacker in college and thats where he got his good numbers from that Merited a first round draft pick. when we drafted him i thought we would do some 3-4 looks with him as a rushing backer but obviously not
Mock
For a post-Super Bowl mock specific to the Colts, this is excellent.
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Brad...
Big ups to you for taking the time to point out the excellence of this post. This type of discussion is what I have been looking for all day. Well done, invisibulman.
by captaincomeback on Feb 7, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks
I was thinking that if I get the time I may do a full offseason/roster projection with salary cap implications, FAs etc. Big undertaking though, so it may be a bit.
FYI
Paul Kuharsky of ESPN linked to it as well.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/33925/rtc-vets-to-get-extra-time-with-mularkey
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Does anyone think the Colts should invite Damarlo Belcher, WR, Indiana to camp? Big, fast receiver, but did get kicked off the IU squad.
And it's now my sig
by Bronn on May 17, 2011 4:56 PM EDT
I have no problem with it
A camp invite is basically a no risk proposition. We need to be looking in a not of different directions right now and WR is clearly one of them. Probably a long shot to make the team, but who knows. He might give Blair White a run for his money.
*I* did, but others have given emphatic "No" answers to that.
While being kicked off is a no-question negative, it’s still an open question whether that’s all on Belcher, or partly on the coaching staff. Or in short, it’s not perfectly clear that it’s all just character issues with him.
The flipside, of course, is that he was given several reprimands before the booting and hasn’t sounded off all that loudly in his own defense. So who knows?
If we’re talking a UDFA invite, I’m all for it. But I know of some people who cringe at the thought.
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
The Polians are gone.
I mean, we got Rucker, so drafting someone with negative issues aren’t without precedent. Don’t know that means that Grigson would take a flier on Belcher, but we just won’t know until we get some data from the next few drafts to make good predictions on personnel trend.
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Any man whose errors take ten years to correct is quite a man.
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" the Colts talked to a lot of TEs so far"
According to whom? Like where did you see us talking to TEs? Senior Bowl, East-West game? I never saw any reports about who we talked to. Please share!
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Senior Bowl
Emil Igwenagu – TE – UMass
Brian Linthicum – TE – Michigan St.
http://draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/Senior-Bowl.php
I thought I had heard one more , but can’t find the reference. I want to say it was Michael Egnew. I wasn’t sure if they were looking for a pass catcher or more of an H-back player, but that is where my speculation is coming from.
Full list from the Senior Bowl
Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma
Leonard Johnson, CB, Iowa State
Emil Igwenagu, TE/FB, UMass
Lavonte David, LB, Nebraska
Joe Adams, WR, Arkansas
Brian Linthicum, TE, Michigan State
Mike Brewster, C, Ohio State
*Sniff* Brandon Thompson...
Man, could you imagine the interior D-line if the 4-3 were kept and Thompson and Nevis manned it as 1- and 3-techs respectively? But he’ll be long gone before Indy’s pick rolls around. Plus, like I said above: A bit light for a 2-gapper.
Still, though… 
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
My only serious issue is how many real 3-techs do we need on this team.
Nevis, Moala, Thompson, Foster. At some point we’d have to get a real 1-tech.
No man should escape our universities without knowing how little he knows.
Any man whose errors take ten years to correct is quite a man.
-Julius "Robert" Oppenheimer
You'd count Thompson as a 3-tech?
I’d count him as a 4-3 1-tech. He’s not big enough to be a 2 gap tackle, but I could definitely see him as a 4-3 nose.
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Of those I wouldn't mind Flemming and Brewster.
Actually, I would almost insist upon Brewster since I am personally opposed to any future that involves Mike Pollak.
No man should escape our universities without knowing how little he knows.
Any man whose errors take ten years to correct is quite a man.
-Julius "Robert" Oppenheimer
Ugh, Brewster.
Not trying to pick a fight, man. It’s just that the video I’ve seen on Brewster makes me feel like he collapses faster than an accordion turned on its side. I’ll admit, it’s possible I’ve only seen bad games. But still, in spite of that, Ben Jones or Phillip Blake would be my choices in the same general range as Brewster.
I also wonder what sort of line blocking scheme will be installed. If they install (or reinstall) something like a predominant zone blocking scheme, then perhaps that Habern kid out of Oklahoma. Maybe. He reads okay, although I’d definitely want to watch as much video as I could before drawing that conclusion.
On the other hand, if the choice is between either drafting Brewster or keeping Pollak, I’d definitely go Brewster.Tell you the truth, if they can’t get a good center to fall to them, I’d rather do what’s possible to keep Saturday and pick up one of the guards (Zeitler, Glenn, maybe Nix out of Pittsburgh or Edwards out of Texas Tech) to get Pollak off the roster. I’m totally with you on a Pollak-free future.
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Agree with both sides...
Really do not want Pollak starting, but Brewster has been very lackluster this offseason. I would like to see a center, but my gut says they won’t draft one. Saturday may play one more year which would allow us to put off the decision.
And/or we could bring someone in as a UDFA like we did with Kirkpatrick last year. Granted that didn’t work out.
My Personal favorite for the position would be Garth Gerhart out of Arizona State.
He’s a Saturday type center. Undersized, and not considered your typical candidate for a top of the line NFL Center, but he’s exceedingly smart as a center, and makes up for his lack of frame by being very technically proficient. He won’t take Wilfork on 1v1, but as a guy who will likely assist a majority of the time, and will be asked to read and call out defenses, this is a guy I’d like. We’ll see how he does in the Combine though. Right now he’s a borderline 7th rounder. Depending on his results he could move up into the 4th or 5th, or drop out of contention completely.
No man should escape our universities without knowing how little he knows.
Any man whose errors take ten years to correct is quite a man.
-Julius "Robert" Oppenheimer
Brewster did get destroyed by Worthy
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
—Hanlon's Razor
Id point out though that yes those guys were publicly mentioned as Colts having talked to them but at bowl games like the Senior bowl most teams talk to just about every player.
by MoralesHomers on Feb 10, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that a nose tackle is important to play the 3-4 defense
I think with the background that coach Pagano has with defensive backs it wouldn’t be shocking to see him draft secondary help early and often.
If Russia attacked Turkey from the rear, Do you think Greece would help?
by whardiek on Feb 7, 2012 5:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Keeping in the theme of secondary help: It'd be gorgeous if Minnefield was available in the second round for Indy.
Keeping in the theme of secondary help: It’d be gorgeous if Minnefield was available in the second round for Indy.
And would be mind blowing if Kirkpatrick fell. But if I start talking about that, people will start asking what I’ve been smoking, and for good reason too… 
Barron should be there, I’d think. I wouldn’t mind seeing him picked up.
Disclaimer: I agree with invisibulman that a big fatty would be better had in the second than lower, so my citations are conditional: If Indy picked DBs high instead of DTs, then I’d like the above.
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
I think the odds are decent that Minnifield will be there. Kirckpatrick not so much. If I were confident that Ta’Amu would be there in the 3rd I would be totally fine going Minnifield in the 2nd. That said… if my choices are Poe + Johnson or Minnifield + Ta’Amu… about a wash IMO. I’m happy either way.
My one hangup with Minnifield is that he strikes me as best suited for zone. If we are really moving toward a man cover system, we may be looking for a different kind of CB in the future.
Well, we don't know if things will move to a man cover so quickly.
Especially since the current crop of DBs were drafted based on zone philosophy and are presumably much better suited to it. It’s completely possible, of course, to run a deep zone behind a 3-4 front, and given that the changeover won’t be possible after just one draft, I’d say that it’s almost certain that the backfield play will still be base zone. They’ll be more man looks, of course, but imposing such a drastic switch all at once would be presumptuous.
The deal with CBs in that range – Dennard, Minnefield, etc. – is that they do indeed seem to be more zone type CBs. At least according to the rankings at Walter Football and Rob Rang’s board at CBS. It’s a weird quirk of this years cornerback class.
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"First they came for the ugly, and I did not speak out because I was not ugly.
Then they came for the nerds, and I did not speak out because D&D IS A RESPECTABLE GAME WITH A LARGE PLAYERBASE OK MOM???
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out because let's be real they always come for the Jews.
Then they came for me, and I did not speak out because they actually came for me back when they came for the nerds."
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"How can a pickup truck contain enough mass to unfold into a towering machine? I say if Ringling Brothers can get 15 clowns into a Volkswagen, anything is possible."
Not that sudden
I think it has been over the last couple of years that we are moving toward players who are not strictly zone. I think Powers is capable of player man as was Hayden (before he got hurt.) Marlin Jackson was not (aside from being an injury risk) and I think Justin Tryon probably fell into the zone mold as well. Really we are devoid of much talent at all in the secondary, so switching schemes can’t hurt the guys we have that much.
Powers CAN play man, but reacts better in Zone.
The only CB we currently have that actually looks proficient when keeping with a WR in Man coverage is Lacey. He has the most college experience, and when he was finally allowed to stop playing 10 yards off, he began knocking more balls away.
No man should escape our universities without knowing how little he knows.
Any man whose errors take ten years to correct is quite a man.
-Julius "Robert" Oppenheimer
My mock draft - oriented towards a 3-4/4-3 hybrid
Round 1 – Andrew Luck
Round 2 – assume Dontari Poe is gone like Phil Taylor last year at the end of the 1st, so trade No.34 and No.65 to Eagles for No.46 and No.51 (equal in value)
Round 2 No.46 – Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson/Josh Chapman, DT, Alabama (whoever is available out of the two)
Round 2 No.51 – Stephon Gilmore, CB, South Carolina/Chase Minnfield, CB, Virginia (whoever is available)
Round 4 – Jarius Wright, WR, Arkansas who runs better routes than Joe Adams, IMO / A.J.Jenkins, WR, Illinois who compares to Brandon Lloyd (I expect one of them to be there)
Round 5 – Akiem Nicks, 3-4 or 4-3 NT, has the measurables at 6’5", 324, 4.98 speed, Regina (my sleeper pick, read this: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/A-sleeper-at-the-EastWest-game.html )
Round 6 – Donte Paige Moss (OLB/DE), North Carolina (6’4", 260, 4.67, this is where we can take a flyer on a questionable character guy, IMO)
Round 6 compensatory pick for Clint Session – B.J.Cunningham, WR, Michigan State (6’1", 209, 4.59, reminds me so much of Jerrico Cotchery as a possession wideout in the middle, makes tough catches every time I have watched him, plays quicker than his timed speed, and gets YAC like Anquan Boldin)
Round 6 compensatory pick for Charlie Johnson – Asa Jackson, CB, Cal Poly, 5’10", 193, 4.40 (read this: http://www.gopoly.com/sports/fball/2011-12/releases/20120123dciurg)
Round 7 – Antoine McClain, OG, Clemson (6’5", 335, 5.34)
For all we know...
…we might play more of a Bum Philips/Wade Philips 1-gap style of 3-4 D and should be able to draft D-linemen that don’t have to weight 350 lbs. Playing a hybrid will give us that luxury instead of playing 3-4 in its pure sense all the time.
B. J. Cunningham is a big time sleeper for me. He is also though finally getting a little love from scouts and will probably be a 4th round pick (possibly 3rd).
by MoralesHomers on Feb 10, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Since we are all giving our alternatives here are my two scenarios.
Scenario 1)
Manning released, not re-signed….
Colts Draft
1) QB Andrew Luck (Stanford)
34) CB Chase Minnifield (Virginia)
65) DT Josh Chapman (Alabama)
98) CB Jamell Flemming (Oklahoma)
129) C Phillip Blake (Baylor)
162) WR Marvin McNutt (Iowa)
193) WR A.J. Jenkins (Illinois)
Scenario 2) (AKA the Pipe Dream)
Manning released, signed to incentive laden contract
Trades….
Colts trade Number 1 Overall to Browns for Numbers 4, 22, 37, and 68 Overall
Colts trade Number 33 Overall to Jaguars for Numbers 39, 135, and 199 Overall
Colts Draft (Based off Current projections)
4) QB Robert Griffin III (Baylor)
22) SS Mark Barron (Alabama)
37) TE Coby Fleener (Stanford)
39) CB Chase Minnifield (Virginia)
65) C Ben Jones (Georgia)
68) DT Josh Chapman (Alabama)
98) WR Dwight Jones (North Carolina)
129) CB Coryell Judie (Texas A&M)
135) DT Akiem Hicks (Regina)
162) WR Marvin McNutt (Iowa)
193) OT Ryan Miller (Colorado)
199) WR A.J. Jenkins (Illinois)
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Huh... I wonder about this guy as a very late round 3-4 NT prospect
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1697210/hebron-fangupo
On the one hand, what little video that’s out there of him does show him taking on and anchoring against double teams at times.
On the other, they’re double-teams on the outside against either guard/tackle, or tackle/TEs. He doesn’t play the 0 or 1 tech that much. And on top of that, to me it appears as though he plays far less like a pure 3-4 0-tech Nose Fatty and more like an slow, overweight 3- or 5-tech double-team splitter. You’ll see in videos that BYU had him at 3-4 DE as much as they had him on the nose. He did fine as a 1-tech getting some push and some penetration, but somehow, for some odd reason didn’t look all that good moving just a few inches over and lining up directly over the center in the 0-tech spot. I don’t know why, but he seemed to get stoned by just one guy. It was like watching Sione Fua – didn’t get pushed backwards too bad, but sure as heck didn’t get any push himself – except that it was 1-on-1, and not against a double team.
But that’s my analysis, and I’m simply not used to figuring out whether a 2 gap NT’s play is any good. I wasn’t all that enamored of Fua personally last year, but that was because I’m used to the Colts philosophy of DT’s not “bench pressing” the guy in front of him (Polian’s own words when he was still with Indy), but instead pushing the pocket or getting penetration. He’s probably a damn good NT anchor for all I know, and I’m just not used to properly judging a different style of play. Anyway, I’m just wondering if I’m misjudging this guy here (Fangupo). You guys got any opinions on him?
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